“I’ll try to stay within FAA guidelines” *is literally tailstriking when taking the runway and proceeds with the takeoff while being incredibly out of CG*
You really should have been upfront that it's a paid subscription service and listed its price points. Seemed an important point to have mentioned before embarking on the deserved hype.
@@ivormlf LOL. $120 for the game. $300 for a HOTAS. $500 for a GTX2080..... but $3-$9 bucks a month!?!?!?!? RIP OOOOOFFFFFF!!!! AAAAAARRRGGGGGHHHH!!!!! Hahahahaha. Relax, OP, I wasn't directing that at you. Just having a laugh is all.
@@wollinger I was gonna try fseconomy, but everything about it is horribly outdated and there's a 3 day waiting line on their forums because they are manually adding every single person to their database... So I went with the 7 day trial instead.
Well he did correctly call it an instrument landing system but he claimed it works off a laser beam which is wrong, it works off a radio signal (for readers who dont know what the OP is talking about). There is a navigation radio in planes sort of like the radio in your car and you tune it to navigational transmitters on the ground that you need like an ILS. The number he said was missing in the ILS box would be a frequency that you tune your nav radio to, like 120.5, then the autopilot (or the pilot) can use instruments in the plane to follow that radio signal down to the runway even if you're in the clouds. What I thought was the dumbest part of the flight was when he saw that the plane's center of gravity was so off that the front wheel was off the ground and Instead of fixing the problem he just took off. His virtual airline should have fired him for that lol. Most planes that off balance stale and crash as soon as they takeoff, which is what almost happened to him.
I've always used FSEconomy with xplane but I just tried this out today and I'm really really impressed! I'm honestly shocked there isn't much buzz about this, I guess maybe because it's a subscription or something, but honestly already it's much more of the type of experience I'm looking for with the skill trees and AI pilots I'm so excited to progress and buy a TBM :) Great vid!
I'm also a convert from FSEconomy. And like I've said elsewhere, everyone is at a different spot financially. I honestly think that this program is as in depth as some games I've played in the past, I don't mind dropping money. Perhaps they might look into a one-time fee thing in the future if enough folks drive that conversation.
Great video showcasing OnAir. Back when they were doing the Open Alpha. I started using it. And quit FSEconomy. It is so much better. And truly gives a purpose to your flying.
IFR is when you are in IMC. And you do have any visual reference to the ground. The weather condition of visibility is VFR rules which are different based on which class of airspace you are in.
for an already fairly expensive game... with a fair amount of bugs... :'D it doesn't seem worth starting a subscription that expensive until the game is at least more complete...
@@toby7647 I suppose you're right, I think once the game grows it'll become better value for money, but right now, not so much. (I'm one of the unfortunate sods who gets hit with a game stopping bug at least 5 times a day 😂)
Declan Bruce Unfortunately, that sounds like a hardware problem. Now the reason I say the game is cheap is because flight simmers have a history of spending hundreds on addons. For example dcs is a free to doenload however each plane you have to buy is around 70 dollars
@@toby7647 all the hardware is pucker mate, when the game runs, it runs perfectly on intra settings and doesn't break a sweat. I think I got load sof corrupt files when downloading, I had to replace a bunch of the game files manually, by getting them off friends when I figured out what was bugged. Yeah I know, I use DCS and FSX, tried Xplane but wasn't a fan. To be honest, I think It's fair to say this program is expensive, right now it's incomplete and half of the working content costs and extra premium just to use, at least DCS is free and you just add on what you want.
Beautifully detailed review not only of the career mode, but also navigation. I haven’t bought the simulation yet but can see the Company Manager add on will bring so much more to the experience. Thank you.
I'm a huge fan of Air Hauler and A Pilot's Life (and loved SimBuddy back in the day) but wasn't aware of this one. It looks amazing, many thanks for highlighting it!
If you're going for realistic FAR compliance, VFR minimums are cloud ceilings at or above 1000' AGL and 3SM visibility. And make sure you're no closer than 500ft below, 1000ft above, or 2000ft lateral to any clouds. Above 10,000ft that turns into 1000'/1000'/1SM separation from clouds and 5SM visibility.
Visual Flight Rules. Instrument Flight Rules. VFR. IFR. IFR means you know how to fly and land without being able to see anything outside of the aircraft, and is required for a commercial license, but not a private one. Private pilots only are allowed to fly VFR when conditions permit, and aren't even supposed to fly into clouds at all...
John Summers thanks man, I know what IFR and VFR is. Private pilots can and do fly IFR if they are rated for it. I know this because my dad is VFR rated and his friend is IFR rated. If you are IFR rated you can make an IFR flight plan, even as a private pilot. IMC conditions is where you can’t see out the window.
@@FastRedDragon1984 Yeah, so for now I'm playing Oneair for free for a week to evaluate :) You could buy a one month subscription just to have some kind of career mode for now, then look at FSEconomy when they got their account management sorted out. (I suspect they will soon. hoping for it before my free play on Onair runs out.)
@@erikwillems6466 Ugh. Still not accepting new members... :-/ I've been trying for a couple weeks now, like tons of people I'm sure. Regardless, I'm doing what you're doing!
@@yassinmomo344 Hi, currently you can only Fly the Planes supported by MSFS2020. With new Planes you suerly can fly them too. So yes you are right but keep in mind that maybe not all Mods are compatible with ONAIR.
@@InsaneMetalSoldier Yes. Simulators have their place and need to be around. I just don't play them that long. With a career goals in a Sim makes it much more worthwhile for me, for my gaming likes.
Nothing bias about it. Try living in the flat areas in the middle of the US where all you have to look at is trees. I'd love to go up that way and do some flying some day.
FS Passnger would be great for a comeback with multientertainment more realistic interior sounds when boarding and occasionally adding life to interior cabin during flight
@@BlueMax717 You can 100% adjust it, just go into your weight and balance tab in MSFS and change it. OnAir actually doesn't even add cargo weight for me, the only thing it syncs is fuel.
Cool stuff, just FYI though, ILS does not work via lasers, it's generally considered pretty bad form to fire lasers at aircraft. The ILS system actually works on a series of radio signals. Basically, for the glide slope the ground based system transmits 2 overlapping lobes, one at a slightly higher frequency than the other. The lobes are laid out so one is above the other, with an overlap whose center is right on the proper glide path. The aircraft based system receives both lobes and compares them to each other, if the signal of the higher lobe is of greater intensity than the lower lobe it knows you are above glideslope, and vice versa. The localiser system works pretty much the same, but in the horrizontal plane rather than the vertical.
O..M..G!! i have seen your video pop up in my feed for a while and ignored it until today THIS IS AMAZING!!! i cannot believe how cool this is. Cannot wait for my PC to arrive so i can subscribe to this product and get playing with a deeper purpose. Great video.
@@TobelPlays I take that. I'm now watching video two on this and signed to to the application. I didn't realise it activated the trial straight away lol my computer won't arrive for another two weeks lol
@@frankperry2482 If you are interested in joining a virtual airline, add me on discord - depoultry#8311. We fly out of Europe and US West coast at the moment. Airline code is LZYJT
I happen to live on Vancouver Island, about 60 miles north of Nanaimo, a place called Comox (CYQQ)....beautiful here indeed. A slice of paradise. Great video and now I am downloading this as FSE seems broken.
Ms should come out with CAPTAIN MODE.. where the goal is to be a captain. Have a feature that unlocks planes based on experience points you get by flying. More airtime means more experience. Close to perfect landing should have a bonus points. Actually a currency to buy the planes instead of unlocking them would be better. Anyhow.. this seems far fetch. We are thankful for having such a beautiful simulator.. sadly I don't think career mode or Captain mode will ever be implemented. This being a simulator sorta kills that idea because the focus is more towards realistic flying more than company management and stuff. Still maybe in flight simulator 2030. We could have career mode built in.
@@TobelPlays you play a lot of flight sims? You really seem to know what you're doing! Can you make 5 mins of your next video just pressing all the buttons and seeing if the plane crashes? Lmao
@@EaGilgamesh Haha, I can guarantee if you press certain buttons you're quite likely to wind up inverted and heading towards land. I enjoy flight sims quite a bit and have taken a few ground school classes in the past.
@@TobelPlays I am seriously debating going to school to be a pilot after watching some of these videos, my god would that view be awesome to see every day! If you can throw in a segment of just seeing what happens if you press all the buttons i would love it! (For science of course)
Iv been saying fx2020 needs game play, not just open world flying around. I wish they had a career mode built in game. This should have been part of the game.
Agree agree. But I think these programs fill the niche pretty well. It'd be a pretty large investment if they tried, they've probably just accepted that there are a bunch of plugins that fit the bill.
Victoria is a beautiful city, and I love Vancouver Island... (Nanaimo, etc). You should get a mission delivering a supply of chai tea and patchouli oil to Tofino. Hehehe.
Uh,...correction, Vancouver Island. Victoria is the capital where the Legislature Buildings of BC goverment is centered. It may be "The ZOO" to some. Yea Abbotsford, CYXX. Also home to the real Guimbal Cabri heli and R66 from Vskylabs. Thats our Canadian registration on their modelled helicopters. You should be hauling in food for the residents of Point Roberts...border cuts them off at this penninsula lol.
We’ll take off to the north.... but let’s announce we’re heading to the southerly runway, lol. Just messing w/ you. Anyway, started my “career”. It’s a little non-intuitive but little by little making more sense. Definitely may need to pay up for subscription.
Great video and enjoyed seeing how "OnAir Company" works. I live on Vancouver Island, not Victoria Island ;-) so it was great to see some of the scenery in the area. One question, you mentioned you purchased the airport. I don't have the game just yet, but am curious how that works? Is it an in-game purchase or a third party? Can you link where you purchased it from.
Saw someone else mention that - crap! I really was convinced it was Victoria Island. You guys gonna let Vancouver take all the fun? As @mountain said, there is an in-game marketplace that ties into Steam wallet. I'm not super impressed honestly with the airport I bought, but for much larger airports I might be. I think it lets many of the more popular third-party folks drop products out there. I want my super mega high-res pack.
I do agree some warning should have been mentioned that this wasn't free. The prices are pretty low. I may actually test it out and then make a decision. Prices are in Euros at the time I checked. 1 mo = 9/month 3 mo = 5/month 6 mo = 3.50/month 12 mo = 2.92/month
The lack of any career mode or any missions is absolutely ridiculous. Just a few landings and a whopping 3 bush flights. You'd think after years of development they could've thrown something together, but there's so much about this game that wasn't finished or done properly when it was released.
Do the 7 day trial and then check if FSEconomy is back by then. OnAir is a good way to get familiarized with virtual airlines etc. I also think it has one of the better managers software wise and is easy to follow. It'll get you "learned up" a bit in case you move to a different manager later. Also, if you do the tutorial flight, you get a free C172 for your airline to keep! For $15, you get 3 months and then you can figure out if this Flight Manager thing is really for you or not. OR just keep waiting for FSEconomy to open up, that's what happens with a free service, the servers just can't handle the load and there's no money to fix it.
Yeah! I miss the simulation of crew and having to manage in flight entertainment and food, plus the fact that it penalized you for not following the rules of aviation of for exceding the planes capacities.
As someone who lives in Victoria BC it's funny that you called Vancouver Island Victoria Island, Victoria Island is in the Arctic! The Gulf Islands and San Juan Islands are gorgeous though, great place to fly out of in game. Fun video though, just stood out to me and had to comment. Will have to check out onair.
subbed ! I wasn't going to buy MSFS unless I could find some career program to go with it. There were a few for the 2006 version but I could never get them to work. You had to dl the software to a certain file and .. yadda yadda.. This seems fairly straight forward. Thanks !
There's a chance this is adressed without me catching it, my apologies if thats the case. Is is possible to use the sim rate with this online feature? I just dont have the time to do extremely long hauls at "normal" speed, but would still love to play around with a career mode such as this!
Sure and that's why I was hoping to get some folks to discuss other alternatives. Although once you get into the depth of the virtual airlines I think you might find it's almost a separate game/simulation. A small fee doesn't seem to bad IMO. But everyone is at a different financial point of course.
Fs economy which he mentioned at the start is completely free. You might think its not compatible with 2020 as they haven't updated the description to say it is yet... but it is compatible
Looking at how involved the entire thing is in something like FSEconomy or OnAir Company, I could see how that would be a massive undertaking. I just want some humans in my seats if I have them loaded.
@@TobelPlays I think what Mulberry is saying is that just because it might be a massive undertaking is no excuse for Microsoft not to spend the development time and cost to include FSEconomy or OnAir functionality in MFS for free. Of course, by that logic, there's no excuse for Microsoft not to have modeled and included Orcas Island (KORS) in MSF for free, so we don't have to buy it from ORBX. Or when 3rd party companies create a new payware aircraft, I guess Microsoft should include it into MFS so you don't have to pay for a new plane. I don't think he realizes that for something like MFS, it's more important for Microsoft to focus on providing the best simulator engine possible with a healthy supply of base content (which they have), while allowing for 3rd party developers the tools to create and add new content (ie aircraft, airports and scenery, and new game modes).
Like any other product it’s up to every individual to learn what’s in FS and then decide if what’s there is worth $60 before they spend their money! IMO it’s amazing to get an actual flight school with the entire world, weather, and live traffic included for $60
@@aedryk 41 bucks for a years worth of this is outrageous? a year sub to almost any other game is usually in the ballpark of 90-100, and if its cheaper theres usually alternative pay models where you pay for content and a lower sub cost. 41 bucks for this much content, and depth? and thats outrageous for you? go work a few hours of overtime or mow a lawn or two, the game cost more
@@SlackinPanda if it was a one time fee, i could see getting it as an DLC or Addon but not as a yearly fee. still early at this stage too but its nice to see this around, but then again this should have been a feature.
@@designamk1160 WoW, WoT, CoD, Fortnite, ESO amongst others all have pay options that are 12-15 a month for a year or 30 to 40 a year in battle passes and skins/store items. 41 at about 3 USD a month is really not that bad when games with yearly subs charge near or above 100 a year for their subs. Even if you don't play them they exist and their sub models are far more expensive. The fact is 41 to 60 for a year or two for content and updates is not that bad. Its fact.
@@darkshimmer01 OnAir has actually been around for a while, its not exactly new but its "new" to the MSFS 2020 platform, but thats no different than FSEconomy or VATSIM all being "new" to the sim as well, but for something similar FSE is pretty much the next best thing, though this one has IMO more depth to it
The people complaining about having to pay $10/month to use the software are hilarious. They'd have no problem paying a $7 delivery fee on DoorDash 14 times a month though.
The pricing on it isn't that bad either, especially if you do the 24 month plan. If you do it month to month, it's 9€/month. If you do the 24 month plan, it's 2.38€/month.
@@Superdelphinus and it might here too. The flight sim genre is gouged insanely with costs of aircraft and terrain that normal pc games generally wind up as mods, or fairly cheap DLC. Even driving sims tend to cater way way cheaper these days as they became mroe mainstream. If the player count holds with msfs2020 i am sure it will cause an economy issue within the sim sales part and open new oppertunities. I know these guys put in some really good solid work, but 70 bucks for a plane is not something the general gaming community would accept of. 250 bucks for very low end hardware is also something that wouldnt fly.
@@Superdelphinus They need money to maintain the servers, depending on donations is very unreliable to try running it as a 'free' app. The amount of features, data, and users require fairly beefy servers.
I think you explained ifr and vfr a bit wrong. You don't switch between ifr and vfr in flight and it has nothing to do with visibility or so. The type of flight/the rules followed in flight are chosen before the flight takes place. For example airliners always fly ifr, no matter the visibility while small aircraft often fly vfr. Vfr flights cant take place in bad visbibility conditions, while ifr flights totally can. Vfr describes navigating using landmarks outside, while ifr describes navigating through the navigating systems in the plane. Anyways great video
Great vid. Thanks for guide. Just a minor correction. Magneto is pronounced mag-nee-toh not mag-net-oh. It’s a key step in every startup sequence, so you will be seeing it a lot. May as well get used to saying it correctly.
This looks pretty cool, I might give the free trial a shot. One question though, if the system relies on live-synced time, does the service support increasing the sim speed during trips? If so, is there any motivation to not do that? Seems like you'd be at a significant disadvantage for not making liberal use of that system when running missions.
It's a self policed system. If you join the higher two servers (Thunder/Stratus) you will be in "warp stasis" until the normal arrival time if you were to have used time compression.
I've used FSEconomy ever sense Microsoft Flight Simulator x ( before even steam edition) I've used it with that, and with steam edition as well as with Xplaine 11, now with FS2020, i am going to check out this VIrtural airline thing too
Here's an idea, just open FS2020, make a flight plan for yourself, pick your aircraft and load it with some fuel. Then pretend, yes, pretend, that you've got some cargo onboard and that you're taking it to your destination. After all, that's what FSeconomy and this Onair manager really is. Difference is, my way is free and saves you an awful lot of money. OnAir Manager looks like a tedious setup every time.
Unsure - I absolutely hate ads in software products. It gives me all kinds of willies. I doubt they'd make near as much as they're making now. I'm not a huge fan of monthly, I'd prefer a one-time but they have been doing a lot of updates to the software and their servers so I know they're actively making changes.
I would love to have tried OnAir Company, but the app/service is horrendous right now; constant DNS issues that seem to appear every time there's an update (or not), which render the app/service inoperable for days at a time.
Glad to see you producing videos again! Adore your voice and how relaxing it is! Will you be doing CK 3 videos are well once the game comes out? You got me into Kenshi, and I’m curious since you love Bannerlord’s so much, have you tried Battle Brothers? Also, I hope you do a Guild 3 thing once that fully releases! Again, you got me into Kenshi! Glad to see you back!
So. Much. CK3. I don't know what type of videos I'll make, as it'll be awhile before I fully understand how things work. I will for sure do some streams, but hopefully let's plays of interesting people. Perhaps a "let's figure out CK3 stuff"
TobelPlays Thank you for replaying, Tobel! Again, you got me into Kenshi and the Guild 3, as your Kenshi play throughs are basically the most serious ones around. I put like 300 hours into Kenshi and it’s all thanks to you! So your Opinion on CK 3 will be vital if I purchase it instead of just game pass it. Of course it’s gonna have missing content, but everything I’ve read so far it’s going in the right direction.
I wish they just built this into MS flight simulator, like you can in Euro Truck simulator, i'd like to make deliveries through my air line... A separate program doesnt create any progression
Dude, really interesting chatter along really good informative input regarding FS 2020 and general flight terms and techniques. Immediate subscribe and alert
When you were searching for a job to take back to KORS from CZBB I noticed that you had the "Airport Min Size" set to 2, but I'm pretty sure earlier I saw it said that KORS is size 1 which might be why you didn't get any possible jobs to take on your return flight
