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Flipping the English Leagues in FM22 

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Welcome to TomFM! In today's Football Manager 2022 experiment video I'm flipping the English Leagues in FM22. That means that the Premier League teams are now competing in the National League, whilst the non league National League sides are competing in the Premier League. I've also swapped League 2 and the Championship, whilst League One stays as it is. Will Premier League giants such as Liverpool, Manchester City and Manchester United be able to climb back to the top, or will clubs like Grimsby Town, Halifax and Wrexham be able to stay on top?
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@Palmitas_
@Palmitas_ Год назад
11:14 "all the premier league teams are gone" 4th place Brentford: Am I a joke to you?
@trevorphilips5252
@trevorphilips5252 Год назад
Hahahaha
@TomFM
@TomFM Год назад
Oops! Maybe I'm anticipating them getting relegated..?
@nielshaug30
@nielshaug30 Год назад
@@TomFM you say what now?
@gamesretweets9979
@gamesretweets9979 Год назад
@@nielshaug30 Brentford did work in the relegation six pointer with United.
@Kondiqq
@Kondiqq Год назад
@@TomFM This comment didn't age well :)
@snoarkal7768
@snoarkal7768 Год назад
Mum, come pick me up I'm scared, tom flipped his camera
@travishammill1141
@travishammill1141 Год назад
😂😂
@TomFM
@TomFM Год назад
Had to have it on the other side of the screen so you could see the tables, but then I'd be looking off the screen so had to flip! I promise not to try anything like this again until Halloween!
@superalex120
@superalex120 Год назад
@@TomFM there’s a show called the loud house and the main Chareter is called Lincoln
@marcusrashid
@marcusrashid Год назад
3:56 at the bottom of the table if you look closer it says Everton were deducted 10 points for administration
@TricksterBloom
@TricksterBloom Год назад
The one thing I've always wanted to see is a reversal of the leagues in like, England, France, Italy, Germany, Spain and Scotland even, and then see where things go - it would be hard to balance it out and you may need to download extra leagues (so that you have 5 levels in Germany, Spain etc) - but it'd be SO interesting to see the impact this has on European Football
@belagajdan
@belagajdan Год назад
I gave done a mod for fm21 that flips every playable european league if you are interested.
@Taubogason.40
@Taubogason.40 Год назад
Ajax gonna be elite
@TomFM
@TomFM Год назад
May be worth looking into for FM23!
@archiestube6830
@archiestube6830 Год назад
@@belagajdan can you give me that mod
@belagajdan
@belagajdan Год назад
@@archiestube6830 It should be both on fmscout and the stram workshop, search for leagues flipped or something like that
@cockbeard
@cockbeard Год назад
Love that my lot named a stadium after EH, but only made it about a 1000 seats more than the last one, tin-pot and proud
@FxcusFuture
@FxcusFuture Год назад
As a grimsby fan, its nice to see grimsby finally win a title 😂😂
@christianlenik5307
@christianlenik5307 6 месяцев назад
You should be warned that Tom is a Lincoln Ultra 😅
@indiw1x
@indiw1x Год назад
Hi man this came up on my recommended so I watched and i really enjoyed it so I liked and subbed
@Kaptenvive
@Kaptenvive Год назад
YOU DID MY RECOMMENDATION!!! THANKS TOM
@XaviersBonsaiRetreat
@XaviersBonsaiRetreat Год назад
What a great idea and I watched it from start to finish. i even watched the time you spent waiting for us to hit like :)
@Mrmayhembsc
@Mrmayhembsc Год назад
One thing I'd find interesting in an experiment is what would happen if the EFL had the same media deal as the premier league.
@TomaszRyszkowski
@TomaszRyszkowski Год назад
A suggestion for FM22 experiment: The Premier League has 20 teams and you could try and populate top20 European leagues with the premier league teams for example, the most reputable premier league team, let's say Man City, goes to the most reputable league, that is Premier league, so it stays where it is the second most reputable premier league team, let's say Chelsea, go to the second most reputable league, that is Spain, and switches places with their champion, that is Real Madrid Idk if it isn't too complicated, but it would be fun to see how much of the champions league would be just english teams and what would become of the initial premier league, that is now comprised of 20 different european leagues champions
@NathanHeaver
@NathanHeaver Год назад
I like that idea
@MrSuperKarate
@MrSuperKarate Год назад
Great idea. Did not see such experiment! Would be interesting to see.
@TomFM
@TomFM Год назад
Love the idea! Could be some fun for FM23
@bigcoomabrian7998
@bigcoomabrian7998 Год назад
Great vid Tom
@johnodaz1273
@johnodaz1273 Год назад
Nice stuff Tom. Bournemouth surprised me, competing with the Big Boys.
@practice4perfectj855
@practice4perfectj855 Год назад
Keep up the great work
@TheInfectedCherry
@TheInfectedCherry Год назад
Tom always missing things when looking at tables when theyre glaringly obvious is always so painful
@rjh9238
@rjh9238 Год назад
excellent to see Barrow making it to the dizzying heights of the championship (briefly...) - sub earned for that alone ;) best of luck to lincoln for the carabao game next week against us - should be entertaining after barrow beat blackpool last week
@ackoovgy
@ackoovgy Год назад
Now this is the content we love to see 🤷🏻‍♂️😍
@TomFM
@TomFM Год назад
You're welcome, hopefully for the one and only time 😂
@michaelgildersleeve5813
@michaelgildersleeve5813 Год назад
All Town aren't we? Always said we are a massive club
@Axel-qu9sm
@Axel-qu9sm Год назад
Me and Lollujo having a Posh party celebrating that league Cup trophy
@ParksandPosh
@ParksandPosh Год назад
As a posh fan, this is the first time on an experiment video I’ve ever seen us win anything and I am overjoyed 😄😂 Europa here we come baby!
@iamflicks2646
@iamflicks2646 Год назад
LOVE THE CONTENT
@manning0
@manning0 Год назад
The biggest stunner is that at 11:30 St Ives were in the national League north, and they got relegated, what a shit season that would have been for the travelling fans.
@kieranlivesey1974
@kieranlivesey1974 Год назад
Brentford were still in the VNL, shame to see my team Huddersfield couldn't make their way back up the leagues
@billsager5634
@billsager5634 Год назад
I've played this experiment numerous times - FLIPPING everything from Premier down to Vanarama North/South. Easiest way to do it is sort via Reputation, thus the 20 lowest reputation teams are placed in the Premier League, then the next 24 lowest going into Championship, and so on. Getting out of North/South is hard, but the first teams to do so fly straight up to Premier League, earning promotion every season. Those teams that get stuck in North/South for a few years, will eventually get back to at least Championship in 10-15 years - but the Premier League is tough, as other Championship squads also earn promotion. Problem is, the original North/South, or in your test Vanarama squads reputations are so low, (as well as their stadium sizes very small), they don't have the revenue streams or reputations to remain successful. Even those that remain in Premier after 4-5 seasons, are soon quickly relegated.
@jakeenglishtv6473
@jakeenglishtv6473 Год назад
Great video as always
@Averagefootyfan
@Averagefootyfan Год назад
True
@philipbarron254
@philipbarron254 Год назад
seeing Emil Riis play for Grimsby at 3:29 made me spit out my water, they took rudd from us aswell lmaaoo
@northmd
@northmd Год назад
Brilliant idea
@ethanmcgowan4731
@ethanmcgowan4731 Год назад
youre right 4:38, that liverpool squad does look almost the exact same as real life kieta is even injured lol
@DazzaYT
@DazzaYT Год назад
You missed out on my team Chesterfield, Tom. Still in the top flight throughout the save :) bar one by the looks
@theintr8372
@theintr8372 Год назад
This actually makes it more fun xd
@zeddluciano1775
@zeddluciano1775 Год назад
Brentford we’re the only team to not get out of the national league. Also should’ve shown who won the domestic and European cups over the 15 years
@jebus89
@jebus89 Год назад
Love that season 1 result ngl UTM!
@itsjustjoel28
@itsjustjoel28 Год назад
the poor teams who got promoted from the 6th tier, that wouldnt be fun for them getting promoted to playing premier league sides lmao
@aidanbishop5595
@aidanbishop5595 Год назад
Being a Brentford fan, I’m glad you missed us 😂
@StinkyywinkyGaming
@StinkyywinkyGaming Год назад
Does the transfer values go down for as they are in lower leagues?
@quaver7421
@quaver7421 Год назад
What website did u use?
@matiaspeinado6701
@matiaspeinado6701 Год назад
Would be interesting to se an experiment with foreigns veto, only British players allowed in the teams… how would the reputation of the league be affected? How far can they go on international competitions?
@cameronisking9496
@cameronisking9496 Год назад
I have an idea put teams from the top welsh leauge,scottish prem and the top irish leauge into english football leauges
@dannil5793
@dannil5793 Год назад
and Northern Ireland
@twilliamspro
@twilliamspro Год назад
My Cousin is a first team coach at grimsby was hoping he'd keep his job lol
@GavHTFC
@GavHTFC Год назад
As a Huddersfield fan it's nice to see us doing better than expected by the end 😂
@Sianistic
@Sianistic Год назад
FM Experiment: National League have a 100year TV deal on the level of Premier League, meaning that anyone promoted is getting kicked upstairs into poverty
@andyjamess
@andyjamess Год назад
I am happy for my team tone in Europe for the first time ever. lol
@JoshAston23
@JoshAston23 Год назад
Good prompt on pressing subscribe 👍 somehow I've been watching all your vids without being subscribed! Nearly didn't check either til I realised you wouldn't carry on the vid if I wasn't 😉
@NathanHeaver
@NathanHeaver Год назад
How about experiment of changing the points per game rules to the negatives
@teresaweigel3611
@teresaweigel3611 Год назад
i like.very good 💎
@GoldenFM
@GoldenFM Год назад
Someone has taken on my mantle ☺ I used to make this database every year back in the day!
@TomFM
@TomFM Год назад
Once the GOAT, always the 🐐
@GoldenFM
@GoldenFM Год назад
@@TomFM ♥
@flak509
@flak509 Год назад
Go on Grimsby 😁 Come on Tom you love to see it😂
@regan_sg
@regan_sg Год назад
FM experiment: make a league with each team being a different personality type, to find out which ones are the best and worst
@j02t94r
@j02t94r Год назад
Interesting how 3 of the top 5 national league teams in the PL from season 1 struggled and Aldershot even got relegated after finishing 4th.
@martincraig5552
@martincraig5552 Год назад
very entertaining would love a Scottish one
@lrxaviation4843
@lrxaviation4843 Год назад
What app is this
@peter20003
@peter20003 Год назад
Can you see the leagues by coefficient points on xbox?
@Malikster1996
@Malikster1996 Год назад
You should have all attribute masking off so you can see how good the players are
@eh9801
@eh9801 Год назад
How did you not recognize Tom McIntyre! You said his name so wrong, so often in the Aberdeen save!
@eh9801
@eh9801 Год назад
I probably shouldn't have paused the video to type my comment....
@TylerAven10
@TylerAven10 Год назад
Really interesting video. Wonder how things would change if the national league had more promotion spots than just 2. I think you can change promotion spots, maybe give each level 3-4 and it would be even wackier
@ethanclarke6859
@ethanclarke6859 Год назад
As a Notts fan its nice to see us not be relegated again
@Robi2009
@Robi2009 Год назад
Yes please, do this for La Liga e.g. 👍
@sidearmjj2731
@sidearmjj2731 Год назад
big up halifax in the thumbnail
@manning0
@manning0 Год назад
6:00 Crewe got relegated to the 6th Tier
@evscrab320
@evscrab320 Год назад
ive seen this database and i wanted to try it but now i dont have to
@ashooaway
@ashooaway Год назад
0:03 So does that mean at corners its now downers that players whip in
@sparkz2337
@sparkz2337 Год назад
btw brentford were in the national league at the end
@pedrocoscosta1796
@pedrocoscosta1796 Год назад
8:21 how can i put created stadiun photos in the created stadiuns
@mikerobinson3918
@mikerobinson3918 Год назад
I was surprised you didn't put grimsby 2bn in debt lol 😆
@stotty4232
@stotty4232 Год назад
Hi Tom!
@josejackmourinho4006
@josejackmourinho4006 Год назад
Maybe a Player with 20 overall als a Keeper or somewhere else, max hight and max low hight.
@kiddo8597
@kiddo8597 Год назад
hi tom. can you make a series about south east asia?? they're big continent with big population but they've never had any good football player/team. especially Indonesia with population more than 260 millions
@xpatriotkiwi
@xpatriotkiwi Год назад
FM23 save idea Halifax to UCL Champions - how many seasons Tom?
@BD-yl5mh
@BD-yl5mh Год назад
Before watching my prediction is that after 20-30 seasons the lasting change will be that the top 5 or 6 from the championship in whatever year you start this will be the major beneficiaries. They’ll get promoted up in the first two years and make hay while the sun shines in an easy mode Premier League. Not sure exactly which teams are where (not sure what season’s lists you’re using), but the teams that had just got promoted back up will get destroyed by this, and the teams that had just got bounced out of the top tier might actually get up and get established as mid table EPL teams by the time the dust clears. Teams from the top of the Premier League should be able to climb quick enough that their lists won’t be totally ruined, but the teams that won’t be able to start winning promotions back out of the National league till later will haemorrhage a lot of their quality. So I think the big 6 will come back up, mid pack teams might settle as mid pack championship teams, and the bottom end will get stuck in League 1 and 2
@StinkyywinkyGaming
@StinkyywinkyGaming Год назад
I didn’t press the like and I feel like a gangster now 👀
@UKUSgrif1on
@UKUSgrif1on Год назад
I'm surprised Halifax Town lasted that long in the Premier League, not to mention coming 5th place in a few seasons.
@nut2692
@nut2692 Год назад
As a. Weymouth fan I feel hurt
@monsterguy561
@monsterguy561 Год назад
hey can you please make a vid about the greek league????????
@sindrapf
@sindrapf Год назад
Peterborough won League cup but got relegated
@Glories999
@Glories999 Год назад
Man mentioned Man United winning the league like we wouldn't notice.
@Mntgmry19
@Mntgmry19 Год назад
How about putting all the Scottish Premiership and Championship teams into the English Conference and seeing how high they can climb in ten years?
@sziklamester1244
@sziklamester1244 Год назад
Actually if these teams could be swapped in real life they could generate a bit more money to improve but the game does not prioritize the improvements of backroom staff improvements and infrastructure. Sadly these teams have no enough stadion capacity to attract enough fans so the money they get is mostly the tv revenue. That is not enough to become competitive with the actual large teams unless you make an experiment where all the vanarama teams (all 3 division) could get some boost for team like more starting money, better infrastructure, larger stadium like 15-25k capacity ones, then these teams could be very competitive once they get players. My experiment would be to add each vanarama teams 10-15 youth players at the age of 15-16 with 100-120 level and with 160-180 potential and let's see how they helps their teams.
@jamesplanesgaming2024
@jamesplanesgaming2024 Год назад
5:34, Im a Grimsby Town fan, so that hurts me a bit u saying that
@lewishill4074
@lewishill4074 Год назад
Before I carry on with video, it would of being interesting if you gave all national North and south either loads of money or sugar daddy status to see how they would get on face ex premier league teams
@sergiomcsherry2376
@sergiomcsherry2376 Год назад
Do the same with Spain I think would be interesting
@calgar7105
@calgar7105 Год назад
as a wrexham fan i fully agree with you on Grimsby, Boo surprisingly succesful Grimsby!
@jdog3640
@jdog3640 Год назад
You support a tinpot club backed by the hollywood boys who got smashed by humble old' Grimsby on your own turf. HOW DOES IT FEEL ;')
@RichardLEH_
@RichardLEH_ Год назад
Could you do a Video where Every team has a Transfer Ban Forever, to see what team has the best youth, so no teams selling players
@sportsjefe
@sportsjefe Год назад
SPOILERS for 2036 here: I found them all! Here are where the 20 PL teams ended up after 2036: Premier League (7): Liverpool 1, Man United 2, Arsenal 3, Tottenham 5, Newcastle 6, Man City 7, Chelsea 9 Championship (6): West Ham 1, Southampton 6, Wolves 14, Aston Villa 15, Everton 18, Leeds 19 League One (3): Brighton 6, Norwich 20, Burnley 22 League Two (3): Watford 1, Palace 17, Leicester 20 Vanarama (1): Brentford 4
@TomFM
@TomFM Год назад
Top work, the real MVP of the video!
@ItsMeDani1
@ItsMeDani1 Год назад
Meanwhile, in the opposite direction, here are where all the 2036 PL teams started off: Premier League (7): Liverpool, Manchester Utd, Arsenal, Tottenham, Newcastle, Manchester City, Chelsea Championship (5): Bournemouth, Blackburn, West Brom, Sheffield Utd, Middlesbrough League 1 (2): Sunderland, Rotherham League 2 (2): Bradford City, Forest Green And National League (4): Notts County, Grimsby Town, Chesterfield, Hallifax So a fair chunk from the top 2 leagues, but a few hanging on from the very bottom too!
@danielporter4366
@danielporter4366 Год назад
Haller top scorer for Bradford in the PL, mad
@markhowell9440
@markhowell9440 Год назад
Watching this after United got demolished 4-0 and screaming HAX
@leedsalex
@leedsalex Год назад
Here is a video idea, get the top 20 FIFA nations in the world and put them in a league together, see how they do, so France current team goes to - Brentford, Spain to Arsenal etc, remove their original players first and then ban transfers
@notadogFrFr
@notadogFrFr Год назад
Ur the G.O.A.T of fm
@ignitefifahd8017
@ignitefifahd8017 Год назад
Did anyone else notice that Chelsea won the Champions League in season 1?
@marknorth9148
@marknorth9148 Год назад
9:33 as a mansfield fan the fact that you missed chesterfield is pleasing
@tomatkins9747
@tomatkins9747 Год назад
Obsessed
@lintangaditya9541
@lintangaditya9541 Год назад
Missed an opportunity to let Man Utd and FCUM plays in one league
@nirangatang7759
@nirangatang7759 Год назад
Wrexham had such an easy title win but they bottled it like in true Wrexham fashion
@lewdogg2247
@lewdogg2247 Год назад
I love this Pointless shit man
@jamesgayfer9599
@jamesgayfer9599 Год назад
I also live in Lincoln and support them
@TheAngrySportsfan01
@TheAngrySportsfan01 Год назад
One experiment I have tried was to get an African country to win the world cup I have never been able to do it. Any suggestions how I could do it?
@joshuabastock3615
@joshuabastock3615 Год назад
im repping kidderminster harriers sad to see them only get relegated
@hotsauce9554
@hotsauce9554 Год назад
UP THE MARINERS, UP THE MARINERS, WE'VE GONE AND WON THE CUP AGAIN!
@DarrenPaul
@DarrenPaul Год назад
Brentford were still in the conference
@NovaWinterz
@NovaWinterz Год назад
Up the terras😂
@JJJackson777
@JJJackson777 Год назад
how come you're not a fan of forest green rovers?
@inparkwetrust
@inparkwetrust Год назад
Eastleigh started from prems and relagated to non league in 15 yrs 😭
@Andy-dy8ot
@Andy-dy8ot Год назад
Why are Stockport included within the national league? Do your research
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