Floorp: Good Browser...Terrible Name

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Today I talk about Floorp, a Firefox based browser with the features of Vivaldi.
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0:00 Intro
1:39 Floorp is a Silly Name
2:29 First Look
4:16 The Design is Customizable
5:00 The Tab Bar
6:04 More Tab Bar Settings
7:04 Tab Tiling
7:59 Keeps Tabs Awake
8:15 Containers by Default
9:04 No Tab Groups ... Sad face
9:48 Vivaldi Like Sidebar
11:17 More Settings
11:46 Sync
12:28 A Couple Issues
13:07 Browser Speed
13:46 Will I Switch?
15:53 Wrapping Up
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@TheLinuxCast 6 месяцев назад

Okay, a correction: Floorp does have workspaces. They're in the settings disabled. They work somewhat similarly to Vivaldi, which is nice. No tab stacks, but then I somewhat expect to find that feature buried somewhere too. Thanks to those who set me straight.

@JessicaFEREM 6 месяцев назад

groups are in sideberry, it just does them in a weird way, it opens a tab internally with the name and a folder favicon, weird but not terrible.

@kode54 6 месяцев назад

Were you using the Flatpak distribution? I’ve been told that’s the “Lightning Edition”, which has some of the functionality reduced.

@vladimir_fomin90 6 месяцев назад

Have you tried the Yandex browser? there is a function that translates videos to RU-vid.

@comet392 5 месяцев назад

The developers are Japanese.

@TheIntNinja 4 месяца назад

Workspaces are enabled by default now Tab stacks is actually "Multi Row Tabs" it will split into rows after certain tabs(they added vertical tabs to it as well since lot of edge users liked that feature)

@surapunoyousei 6 месяцев назад

I'm the author of this browser, but I still don't understand why I use this name. Some explation about Floorp: - Who named it: My old internet friend. He or she is gone. - Where is Workspaces: You get it on Preferences page. - What is my reccomendation feature: Private Container & Floorp Notes.

@LolZoide 6 месяцев назад

Honestly I really dig the name Floorp, it's fun.

@thingsiplay 6 месяцев назад

I'm sorry for the loss (either way, if you lost contact or if the person is no longer alive). I personally do not like the name too and suggest changing it. If you think this is disrespectful to the person who is gone, I can understand that. However if you want to change the name, I suggested in the other reply to name it "Blaze Browser", in play with the affiliated organization "Ablaze". While I personally have no interest into using this browser over my standard Firefox, I still applaud the work you are doing and be grateful for all the alternatives we have.

@onceuponaban 6 месяцев назад

@@thingsiplay I'm not sure if picking Blaze as a name is wise given that the very similar name Brave is already used for an unrelated browser.

@thingsiplay 6 месяцев назад

@@onceuponaban They are different enough. I could understand your point if both were using the same underlying technology, but as you say, they are unrelated. I do not see any problem here.

@legendboyAni 6 месяцев назад

@@thingsiplayblaze sounds cringe

@terminalvelocity4858 6 месяцев назад

The name "Floorp" is just continuing the humorous lineage of Linux app naming schemes. _"I opened up Kitty to install Thunar for use with Rat Poison"_ 😅

@warpspeedscp 6 месяцев назад

Well at least you arent killing an orphaned child.

@redlionstudio2750 6 месяцев назад

@@warpspeedscp bruh

@skelebro9999 6 месяцев назад

Most normal Linux application name 💀

@sachinchaudhary1310 6 месяцев назад

love ya (the name )

@skelebro9999 6 месяцев назад

@@sachinchaudhary1310 🙏

@nikunjkhangwal 6 месяцев назад

Its not native to Linux and the dev is Japanese

@nikunjkhangwal 6 месяцев назад

@@johannesdavidsen Are you the dev of Floorp?

@darkphotonstudio 6 месяцев назад

It's still not as bad as "GIMP".

@jimmyking92 6 месяцев назад

I'm always positive for a non-chromium based browser.

@ThatLinuxDude 6 месяцев назад

Workspaces is coming back, soon. Tab Groups were originally planned to replace the old, buggy, Workspaces implementation, but Floorp's planned implementation ended up being identical in functionality to workspaces so they are being reimplemented soon as a rewritten Workspaces feature. PS: Floorp View is Firefox View. That's just how localisation works in Firefox (Browser Name + " View").

@kaiser1794 6 месяцев назад

You might be able to re-brand to gain more traction with users while maintaining the Floorp identity by just shortening to the "F Browser" or expand Floorp into a full acronym that sounds really cool and people will use the F word to refer to it. But it'll always be Floorp

@DLLDevStudio 6 месяцев назад

Forking a browser and embedding custom functionality directly into the codebase is the proper, albeit more challenging, approach for serious development. This method, rather than simply adding extensions, allows for deeper integration, customization, stability and even some sort of branding. It's impressive to note that this project isn't just a basic fork; it has attracted a huge number of contributors, 5000+ at the time of this comment, including Mozilla developers, who are actively enhancing the repository with their code.

@brindleoak 6 месяцев назад

Erm I think not. Those contributions were part of original firefox - prior to fork

@Antonio-Sandoval 6 месяцев назад

It looks like a very good upgrade from regular firefox! I'll give it a try no doubt, thank you for bringing this up!

@jdanks 6 месяцев назад

honestly i like goofy names for stuff. ill have to check this out

@theshowmanuk 6 месяцев назад

I like the floorp name. Seems like a cool browser to me. Love this channel

@milohoffman274 6 месяцев назад

I would MUCH rather have the functionality as extensions and keep the mainline Firefox+Updates instead of depending on an entirely other development tree to release browser updates.

@skaifer1715 6 месяцев назад

I'm using Panorama View addon for Floorp to replace workspaces feature. And I like it even more than workspaces, because it offers bird-eye view of all tabs and groups with previews, and you can drag and drop. I miss tab groups, though, not sure if it would ever work with panorama view. I like, that you can add addons to sidebar panel in Floorp, useful for AI Chat addon. Also you can reopen tab in private tab and vice versa, which is handy.

@remarstered 6 месяцев назад

Tabgroups would be nice, but having workspaces (as mentioned in the pinned comment: you have to enable them in settings) does most of the job for me . Thank you for mentioning this browser! Only one thing left and that would make it the perfect browser: Something like Opera's Pinboards, or Edge's Collections.

@Sandmule 6 месяцев назад

Just started looking for a new browser and was curious about this one. Thank you for making this video :)

@syde3347 6 месяцев назад

@TheLinuxCast you should try floorp with sidebery vertical tabs, it has grouping of tabs and “panels” that sort of work like workspaces

@blackrose7763 6 месяцев назад

Its really tempting to give it a try. Im not sure if Firefox sync with my container settings will work, so i probably dont give it a try, but can someone please show this mozilla. This customizable UI should be implemented in Firefox

@khoidauminh 6 месяцев назад

ngl Floorp is the funniest name I've ever heard for a browser and I love it definitely trying it out

@facist_monk 6 месяцев назад

thanks for the video, its a nice effort by the floorp team. Can you tell how much NEW isolated containers can I make with the given icons and colours. like C1, C2, C3,....C50,C51...... what can be the possible number of different combinations with icons and colours.

@mrwallen 6 месяцев назад

Literally just discovered this browser last night so excellent timing. Currently use Vivaldi after watching your video on workspace management which is just excellent but really wanted a Firefox based back up browser/replacement. Floorp is great since it does have vertical tabs by default but workspace management/grouping just isn't there so I definitely have to make compromises. Most likely this will be second choice browser and main Firefox based browser but really hoping future development will allow me to make it my #1 browser.

@TheLinuxCast 6 месяцев назад

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@JangGaming 6 месяцев назад

Bro Floorp does have Workspace, enable it in Settings: blog.ablaze.one/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B0-2023-08-01-181253.mp4

@chonkusdonkus 3 месяца назад

11:55 is actually a normal Firefox feature, it's relatively new, but there should be a little drawer icon somewhere on one of your bars that opens up this same view, except it's called "Firefox view". It used to a be a Firefox icon, but now it's a little drawer.

@leelynch3614 6 месяцев назад

If you think Floorp is bad, wait until they come out with WAllp and Ceilingp !

@Emancipatriot 6 месяцев назад

Is librewolf dying or something? I use Garudas firedragon and the aur says they are switching to a floorp base instead of LW

@thingsiplay 6 месяцев назад

I searched and found this explanation: "Dear Community! For many reasons we decided to stop maintaining Firedragon using its Librewolf > source as base. Rest assured, we are now moving towards Floorp source, which offers different features/tweaks and uses Firefox ESR as its own source. This new package is currently in Alpha tests and looks promising. Since there are many changes with Firefox 120, including some major revamp of Librewolf patches that Firedragon is leveraging, we decided to freeze this Firedragon version at 119… Ultimately v119 will be completely replaced by its new Floorp base. Floorp source can be found here 6. We hope you will also enjoy our next version! :slight_smile:"

@Mario1vsSonic1 6 месяцев назад

It's a conspiracy to reduce privacy.

@serrialerror6103 6 месяцев назад

There are workspaces in floorp, and you can also collapse the tab bar by turning off the show tab bar switch in settings

@TheLinuxCast 6 месяцев назад

I was told about the workspaces. I haven't tried them out yet tho.

@ThatLinuxDude 6 месяцев назад

@@TheLinuxCast They're kinda buggy right now... but as said are nearly done being rewritten, it sounds like, to actually be stable. Funnily enough, the original plan for Workspaces' replacement was straight-up migrating your Workspaces... *to Simple Tab Groups.*

@esra_erimez 6 месяцев назад

Great video! Who's Floorping in 2024?

@justaWdiff 6 месяцев назад

Not quite enough to quit Vivaldi as well, but thank you for sharing this, I’ll be watching this project closely. Ironic saying this, but would love to quit as much google as possible. But, Vivaldi is just too good

@TheLinuxCast 6 месяцев назад

Agreed

@Professor762 6 месяцев назад

I have started using Vivaldi for work after seeing your Vivaldi video @TheLinuxCast since we heavily rely on google suite. My major issue of FF and all forks is lack of side tabs and tabs UI is way too big for laptop screen space utilization. It really bugs when they take up so much space.

@thingsiplay 6 месяцев назад

Name They say they are only affiliated with the organization Ablaze (from their Github Readme). And a good name for the browser based on it could be "Blaze". Extensions I don't know if this is true, but a reason to integrate an extension into the browser might be to overcome limitations of the extension system and to integrate everything tighter. Just a guess though.

@donaldmickunas8552 6 месяцев назад

This also removes dependency on Mozilla. Over the years, Mozilla has twice dumped all extensions for “security reasons “. This left a bad taste in my mouth. Floorp seems to be taking design steps to avoid such events in the future.

@comet392 5 месяцев назад

The only problems I have is that after opening it from minimizing a list of the tabs are shown instead of opening the window using the current tab and their default notes use the keyboard shortcut for their notes instead of simply right click and paste. I'm not interested in workspace or tab groups.

@icecream_eyes 6 месяцев назад

Damn Matt, you always talking about the lack of tab groups in FF but what about Sideberry extension? I'm using both Vivaldi and FF with Sideberry and FF+SB is faaaaaar more feature-rich and useful. Give it a try.

@jimmcg229 6 месяцев назад

deprecated and depreciated are two different words, my friend 😂

@Rood67 Месяц назад

This is a browser in the Garuda (Arch fork) distro. I like it well enough that I downloaded it to my QEMU Windows 10 IoT LTSC to try it in a Windows environment. So far, pretty good. I realize this video is half a year in age, so the version I have has Workspaces (although not something I normally use as I don't use Vivaldi or browser extensions to give this capability. Great video, and it was nice to see the developer has chimed in to give a comment.

@amigaworkbench720 6 месяцев назад

Always interesting stuff. Firefox is my main and I also have Brave and Chrome. I like Gnome's browser "Web". I wish I could use that on Windows.

@Finkelfunk 6 месяцев назад

Any plans on trying out Pissandshittium as a browser next?

@darthslackus499 5 месяцев назад

Floorp is developed in Japan. 'Floorp' in japanese means "sweet sounding and not everything must jive with your uncultivated Westerner ears".

@louisfifteen 6 месяцев назад

I just got news from Windows security that my pc is infected with Trojan associated with Floorp, anyone reply to this?

@peter.pandemonium 6 месяцев назад

When I first heard the name Google, I thought it was a terrible name as well. Later on everyone got used to it. With Floorp, you'll get used to it as well when development gets better along the way.

@eventfulvoid5665 6 месяцев назад

Just jumped to it. Workspaces are a bit tedious, but i like it.

@DjBlacid 3 месяца назад

Man, your video convinced me to switch, this should be the top result when searching floorp, not the CTT video or the one of some guys saying "ye we will try it in a few months", this is complete, not too long, shows a lot of its features and the way you decided to show it (the comparison with vivaldi) is on point

@supremeluma 6 месяцев назад

i actually tried it for a few weeks, it does hold up to the slogan of being fast yes, but much like firefox, lacs in looks and customization, vivaldi still gets the W for me

@bvd_vlvd 6 месяцев назад

Yup, Vivaldi has some flashy features but their main goal is customization Call me crazy, but I love the calendar as well. It didn't sound like it was in Floorp either

@JessicaFEREM 6 месяцев назад

I wish they implemented sideberry instead of tree style tabs, sideberry has the groups built in.

@mohamad20zx34 6 месяцев назад

Do one still use Firefox and which lightweight distribution do you like

@mohamad20zx34 6 месяцев назад

@@thingsiplay thanks but you know this question is for Mr matt

@mohamad20zx34 6 месяцев назад

@@thingsiplay no its fine you can add them back and Linux stils My savior for web development

@shirayukix2155 6 месяцев назад

Give it the security of Librewolf or Mullvad Browser and I'm in.

@DevanandPA-vq1yj Месяц назад

Use the tab stash extension to get tab groups

@yoshinatsu 6 месяцев назад

Unfortunately it's based on Firefox ESR, so say goodbye to all the potential new features for the next 10 months. If it was based on regular Firefox, it would have been my default browser already. I love that it has a portable mode on Windows.

@min_nari Месяц назад

i realy hope someone can make a gecko based browser with Edge's tag grouping feature, i m a twin-browser user and i use Edge exclusively for shopping. tag gouping with vertical tab bar is just way too useful for shopping where a lot of tabs are opened and page title matters.

@quenz.goosington 6 месяцев назад

is floorp view not just the same as firefox view?

@Otome_chan311 5 месяцев назад

It is. This guy just seems to not know about Firefox view (since he normally uses Vivaldi)

@scavanger1000 6 месяцев назад

Recently swapped to floorp, my havorite part is that it’s available on x86/64 and aarch64 so I can use it on my desktop and my laptop

@KakashiHatake-xk9to 6 месяцев назад

Which Linux you use?

@TheLinuxCast 6 месяцев назад

openSUSE

@some_shiptoster 6 месяцев назад

Does anyone know if it supports PWAs out of the box?

@DavidConnerCodeaholic 6 месяцев назад

The TST author has jumped through a ton of hoops to minimize the permissions required for the extension. That's why the TST extensions are modular. Furthermore, the TST config export should be cross-platform (OS) and should be something you can integrate into floorp, so long as you've pulled in the extension.

@2u263 6 месяцев назад

🤣FloorP 🤣👍 thank you. How is Floorp's privacy security? Or is that not a concern anymore? Are you running DWI or Awesome? Do you run mastadon in a sandbox or as a client. Also do you provide individual tech or project support?

@TheLinuxCast 6 месяцев назад

It's xmonad> As for privacy on Floorp, from what I can tell it's exactly the same as Firefox without the Mozilla telemetry.

@leptir1 6 месяцев назад

cool video thank you also, friend - "deprecated" = deh·pruh·kay·tuhd you said "depreciate" which is a different word - just letting ya know again, thanks for the vid, G

@avalagum7957 6 месяцев назад

How does floorp compare to mercury? Mercury is based on Firefox ESR, so it's a little outdated.

@Multowz 6 месяцев назад

@Azu10157 bro why did you send 5 times

@dansnickles 6 месяцев назад

It is a great browser been using it for a while glad you made a video about it.

@Emancipatriot 6 месяцев назад

It doesn’t matter what browser you use. What matters is 100% on the d3ward test

@UltimusShadow. 6 месяцев назад

Mine are, 1.Firefox my favorite, for general use. 2.Brave as a backup. 3.Chrome (Flatpak) only used for Google Sites (99.9% RU-vid).

@naapsuvaimne740 6 месяцев назад

my main browser now

@uuu12343 6 месяцев назад

Another evidence that us programmers cant think of a good name

@mgord9518 6 месяцев назад

Well, the two hardest things about programming are cache invalidation and naming things

@mikerollin4073 4 месяца назад

False

@k.b.tidwell 6 месяцев назад

As far as using Floorp, I think I'll try it, but if anyone could tell me a thing or two I'd appreciate it. One reason I left Firefox was that when using the side-vertical tabs, I couldn't get rid of the top tabs at the same time in order to save some vertical space. Mozilla people said it was coding issues that cause that. Another reason I went with Vivaldi is that I couldn't cast to my TV with Firefox. I found happiness with Vivaldi on these points. Can Floorp do these things?

@c0upe12 6 месяцев назад

"Optimise browser for Vertical Tab Bar" for removing the wasted real estate on the top in Floorp

@soulaesthete8563 6 месяцев назад

I recently discovered the "Floorp" browser and absolutely love it and made it my default browser immediately. Waterfox was my default browser because it worked better with my Dragon NaturallySpeaking software than Firefox. And you're right, name is terrible! lol Thanks for this review!

@hundvd_7 6 месяцев назад

This looks like a good alternative to Firefox, but not to Vivaldi. The amount of customization I did there can still only be rivaled by the custom css stuff, and that's just not nearly as user friendly, and often more error prone (not that Vivaldi's solution is perfect)

@Zedoy 6 месяцев назад

If Floorp wasn't based on ESR but on latest stable version then it would have been my default browser

@wearegeek 6 месяцев назад

'Simple Tab Groups' is a Firefox extension that replaces the workspaces function. But in all seriousness: Why should browsers be so complicated? You can have multiple windows with their own tabs, and just let your (tiling)window manager deal with how to display them. Categorize with bookmarks. Block stuff you don't want with extensions. Download things you want to keep forever.

@JessicaFEREM 6 месяцев назад

I think it's a nice browser but I'm also fine with stock firefox workflow and simplicity so I'm sticking with it. cool for the right people though

@DavidConnerCodeaholic 6 месяцев назад

also, the UI of each browser is basically a webpage. it's DOM ... all the way down.

@turboelephant6298 6 месяцев назад

The name doesn't bother me, not being able to hide the sidebar does.

@TheLinuxCast 6 месяцев назад

You can do that in the settings, but it's not automatic like Vivaldi.

@Russkoe-slovo 6 месяцев назад

Только Макстон. У Флор не все ссылки открываются в новых вкладках - это бесит.

@Av1lon 6 месяцев назад

в настройках можно изменить

@Russkoe-slovo 6 месяцев назад

@@Av1lon Нельзя. Всё перепробовал.

@itsfish8672 6 месяцев назад

Do they use crappy duck duckgo as the search engine?? Matt, great vid mañ.

@paultapping9510 6 месяцев назад

what's a good alternative to ddg? I've been using it for quite a while, but you're not wrong that it's not a particularly strong search engine. I prefer to avoid Google if possible though.

@foxhoundlegend3127 6 месяцев назад

Best Browser ever, thanks to chris titus for Presentation this Browser!!!!

@christopherapenne7311 6 месяцев назад

Hello ! It looks like stangely to midori 11 !!

@caron27 6 месяцев назад

Because Midori is a reskinned Floorp now lol

@atty72 Месяц назад

Is my maiin browser and... I love it!

@Sharp931 6 месяцев назад

Still the Ebussy car is the king

@John7No 6 месяцев назад

I would expect 2 things on this video to be present. (based on the quality of the content you usually provide) 1. Nobody expects to deep dive on who the devs are, but a mention that it started from Japanese students and at the moment if even have comments from mozilla people. nothing special just what you can find in a 15 minutes of search for an app that you installed on your pc. PLus for projects like this it is a big thing to have this info since it can be what makes it to take off or stay in the niche forever 2. That is uses ESR and not the regular FF version

@aceae4210 6 месяцев назад

as a note, mullvad as well as tor use ESR (extend support release) this is compared to librewolf which uses the mainline release, which means it updates much more often (which makes it much harder for someone basing off of librewolf instead of a ESR based browser)

@Mario1vsSonic1 6 месяцев назад

Bing: Great search engine name. Terrible search engine....

@naderz4064 Месяц назад

i love the name floorp lol makes me laugh everytime i see it

@moetocafe 6 месяцев назад

Looks like the weirdest browser I've ever seen - with that address bar at the bottom... 😐

@mikerollin4073 4 месяца назад

Disagree. Floorp is a superior name. I look forward to someone asking me what browser I use just so I can say it.

@giddycadet 6 месяцев назад

shaking my head every time i say floorp so everyone knows i don't agree with the name

@kurtreply 4 месяца назад

I prefer the name Floorp to Vivaldi but that's just me.

@velvetvideo 5 месяцев назад

I use vivaldi for the same reasons. floorp is kinda exciting

@TheLinuxCast 5 месяцев назад

Yeah, I hope it gets a bit better. They're rewriting the workspaces, so we'll see.

@velvetvideo 5 месяцев назад

my want list includes tabs stacks located at the bottom of the browser (with url bar at top) and adjustable side pane. I tend to overdo tabs so I hope workspaces is a thing too. I'm in the process of using workspaces and bookmarking everything i had open because I actually managed to slow the browser down with the amount of tabs I have opened . >.> @@TheLinuxCast

@silentlythruthevalley 27 дней назад

ready to floorp

@ernstmayer3868 6 месяцев назад

Speedometer tells me 425 with Chromium. 😆

@TheLinuxCast 6 месяцев назад

Yeah it's very hardware dependent. Maybe even distro dependent.

@lechiffre5078 6 месяцев назад

Fluurp slides off the tongue a little better.

@taurohkea2169 16 дней назад

i see tech beard, i sub

@Bekon241 6 месяцев назад

For me not mater how meny browser and setting i look, firefox is just the one, i never change, i do this when FF was Quantum(shit) for 1 year but then i back and ok.

@DominicGo 6 месяцев назад

i think it’s a cute name actually haha

@catoflado4977 6 месяцев назад

I feel unconfortable on using this browser exactly because the name and the logo. Im so pitty hahaha

@JessicaFEREM 6 месяцев назад

floorp view is the same as firefox view

@TheLinuxCast 6 месяцев назад

I don't use Firefox, so I have no clue what Firefox View is.

@louisfifteen 6 месяцев назад

Warning, there's a trojan hidden inside.

@TheLinuxCast 6 месяцев назад

Proof?

@louisfifteen 6 месяцев назад

@@TheLinuxCast Only proof I had was from my totally updated Windows Security.

@user-ec7qy7zi2f 6 месяцев назад

Your videos are always informative and I've learned a lot about Linux from watching them. However, many times you say "depreciated" when reading "deprecated" and I laugh every time

@TheLinuxCast 6 месяцев назад

I don't think it was many times, it was this time. And I have dyslexia, so that's why it happens.

@user-ec7qy7zi2f 6 месяцев назад

Oh... I didn't know that. I understand. You make great videos; keep 'em coming :) @@TheLinuxCast

@mzakyr342 6 месяцев назад

hey thats my skill!! making terrible names

@Skelterbane69 6 месяцев назад

Floorp is what firefox is supposed to be.

@deathdogg0 6 месяцев назад

Floorp

@chris122380 6 месяцев назад

No Android versions 😢

@JediBrooker 6 месяцев назад

de-pre-KAY-ted

@TheLinuxCast 6 месяцев назад

Dys-lex-ia.

@Av1lon 6 месяцев назад

the workspaces are broken, I prefer more Vivaldi

@Junior-rw3jm 3 месяца назад

No mobile app.unfortunately

@winstonb990 6 месяцев назад

icecat is more secure than other browsers

@thingsiplay 6 месяцев назад

Why?

@ariii3616 5 месяцев назад

based name tbh

@IlIlIIlIlIlIlIlIl 2 месяца назад

Aged like milk

@zSion 2 месяца назад

why

@Dara-wk5ty 2 месяца назад

@@zSion Around 3 weeks ago Techlore posted a Video where he complained that the developer of Floorp closed his source code a couple of months ago for a short period of time. He later claimed he was right to not trust "new" projects (this is false Floorp isn't new) while his friend most likely complained about Floorp being based on Firefox ESR.