Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration 

Triple, quadruple dipping

Double dipping everything and everyone. Land of the FEES

They sure are….public funds to build private jails and prisons, then they outsource their labor, charge for housing to the taxpayers, then charged the inmates as well, then don’t forget post prison supervision fees, the up charge on commissary… etc.

Prisons are "for-profit" and make money off of slave labor, as I understand it. It's disgusting

Absolutely

And hoping they'll return.

Also to keep them away from the ballot box permanently. All fees & fines must be paid before voting rights are restored in Florida.

This woman rebuilt her life and is being kept down. Isn't it interesting that pay-to-stay is a thing when prisons became for-profit?

@@JJ-fq4nlAnd I’ll stick my neck out and assume these laws are disproportionately enforced on people of color.

Exactly

This!

Dumbfuck: here's a bill to arrest children for eating glue! Boss: hold him while I call the feds!

Exactly. This wouldn't be ok even if everyone was guilty, but there are plenty of miscarriages of justice

Yep

Maybe joe can do a prison stay debt forgiveness program.

@@HANKHILLFORTXGOVERNOR Who is Joe

​@@poppachoppa8956bye den

Joe mama!!!!!!! lol!!!

If you watch the video, you would understand.

she has to pay for the cell assigned to her for duration of sentence, not for actual time she was incarcerated

This makes absolutely no sense. Do you have to pay for a hotel that you’re not staying in?

@@thomasmccollum4124 ya can lose your hand for stealing. the idea is to keep your hand, because you know you'll lose it, therefore you dont do the crime. its punishment. i do believe its excessive though, but it should of been made aware at the time of conviction and release.

Soo what about all the other inmates assigned to that same cell for the 6 n a half years she weren't there? So there making a awful lota money off released prisoners n empty cells. That is Criminal itself!

WOW your story is wild!!! Glad you made it through. Wow! Just wow!

Why aren't we charging the same rates to politicians for occupying offices ?

That not right 😢

I’m glad you sued them

You sued them for your security deposit back🤦‍♂️.. They slimy in the system

its not. welcome to america

Communism USA

It’s a law. It’s legal. That’s how laws work. Don’t like consequences? Don’t do crimes.

@@moroteseoinagehey buddy, blow in from stupid town?

@@moroteseoinage 🥾👅

You live in a Communist country. Haven't you been paying attention?

Smh. I thought the same thing.

Here’s a life tip, if you don’t commit crimes, you don’t get “forcibly locked in a room at gunpoint”.

@@aaronscarpa7469 If you cannot keep up with the adult conversation, can you quiet down?

@@aaronscarpa7469because no1 has ever been wrongly convicted…

Brillent.

Until your bad built gullible ass gets a DUI or storm some other building. Then you'll be whining about your treatment and diet.😂😂😂 You're So soft.

Shameful thanks for posting this injustice

It’s clear as day, that is what it is,got to pay someone else’s rent,really

This is Florida’s way of forcing broke people to leave the state.

That part! 💯

It's called restitution and a lot of states do this including California! Go learn some law

​@@SonyaHudson It's called restitution and a lot of states do this including California! Go learn some law, That Part!🙄

​@@Sense71you have poor comprehension skills. Restitution does not justly involve being charged for a dwelling you DID NOT DWELL IN. Go learn some common sense, That Part 🖕

Florida the police state never disappoints

Sounds like an average working person who has debt and tryingto get out of it. There is no issue with making the prisoners pay, they have choices like everyone else. They should not overcharge her for the time not stayed though.

@@sistacoin$125K???

@hieverybody4246 Can you even read what I said about overcharging her? You're choosing to skip past that. Also, yes, there are people who may have that much debt as well.

How do people keep asking these stupid questions?? The system is designed to KEEP YOU DOWN!! GET IT?! WHAT ARE YOU NOT UNDERSTANDING???

@@LivingforHimJesus Well, at least it's not *_intentionally_* designed that way. Remember Hanlon's Razor: never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by incompetence or stupidity!

Recidivism pays

Doing wrong was the whole problem in the first place.

They do not, in their ideal world this young woman cannot make a decent living, goes back into the world of crime and becomes a low risk low cost "tenant" for a few more years. If she somehow makes it out and makes payments then they have a steady income from her and if she goes back in well, same. I am not against fair punishment and holding people accountable but turning inmates into commodities is not how you rehabilitate. Mind you the purpose of the legal system is the US was never rehabilitation I think, it is just an occasional side effect.

​@@mikusoxlongiusfalse you weren't paying attention either to this video or to history of this country. The problem started with a problematic society that traumatizes people when they're vulnerable

@@mikusoxlongiusyou sound like bullshit

😲😳😖

That is what someone with criminal thinking would say.

You must be young and obviously naïve about many things: that saying is been around for about 100 years.

@@leonardodalongisland what does this saying has to do with the actual facts? And for your information about age, I’m old enough to be your grandfather.

@@LP-hs6yz So this is your definition of a criminal mind? Have you ever been incarcerated? I take it you haven’t. They have been people of all races that have been in prison. And came out being so called rehabilitated. Only for society to turn around and not give them a chance or a job! And some have been accused of a crime they didn’t commit! Now look at the video before you!?

many people paid for that cell at the time.That's steeling.I saw a t-shirt written:don't steel it's the governments job!So true.

we know....we got it....we understood the story

@pkizzy8325 Some people have a hard time understanding, so I try and help. Instead of trolling on someone's comment, maybe you can be useful and mind your business if you don't have anything nice to say.

@@littleitaly4700 I had to rewatch it because I didnt understand. Nice that you explained it for others 👍

@@littleitaly4700 ::: She should sue them for the money they collected from others that occupied her cell. In the end she should owe nothing.

lol then they send you back to prison for owing credit companies and you get out again put it on credit

​@@alexrekzu4079that is not how it works. Lol

@@dejamesola 😎

Go back to prison righ now! 😡

Exactly. It's not like it's a student loan. :)

Florida also makes the prisoners work out in the community in shackles and does not pay them. Considering that the 13th Amendment didn’t actually abolish slavery, it only made it legal for prisoners to be enslaved.

@@JackieOwl94 Sounds like the old Georgia Chain Gang scenario.

@@JackieOwl94 yes you work to pay your debt to society.

@@alecpitts6843Forcing someone to work without compensation is called slavery. This is completely unconstitutional and should be abolished and condemned.

@@lopilkderlll except its outlined in the constitution that prisoners can be forced to work with no compensation.

It's not. A debtors Prison, was a prison solely for those that owed a debt and were jailed due to that debt. This woman is a felon that committed crimes against citizens, and went to prison. She owes the prison for her time behind bars. Food, housing, utilities, and everything else she received while in prison. She very likely went to school while in Prison, which those services are offered to all Florida prisoners, something that isn't mentioned in this propaganda piece. She was let out of prison early, so the victims don't get justice. She should go back to prison and serve out her remaining time.

@@My-Name-Isnt-Important The real issue is that she is being charged for services beyond what she used. It wasn't just her decision to be released early-it was the state's. That's fraud and corruption. It's illegal in almost all circumstances in the US outside of this one. Even renters don't have to pay the entirety of their broken leases once they pay a much lower penalty. This kind of policy ensures continued bad outcomes.

​@@My-Name-Isnt-ImportantWith the amount we all pay in taxes should be enough. I'm very pro Florida & conservative values (& although California also has this same law/program) This is absurd. 🚩The whole point & goal is to make sure once you're in the system u never get out of it. It's hard enough for anyone to make any real changes in their life with 1 mistake, especially if that's a felony for something like unknowingly writing a hot check (i know it's rare for someone to be innocent but it does happen & even if it's not a genuine mistake, if its the 1st time, they still deserve a chance at paying the consequences &changing their lives) NOT ENDING UP IN DEBT THAT'S EQUIVALENT TO GOING TO COLLEGE TO GET A MASTERS & going to prevent them from ever owning anything. Disgusting.

​@@My-Name-Isnt-Importantshe was a child basically back then...her crimes were not of a drastic nature...she proved she has grown up..she did everything they asked...& there was no reason to hold her it was a huge success story. Tell me any situation where you can charge somone for something they never used & they just put someone else in the same cell...its corruption at it worst she should protest & get others also & get an attorney. Also they hid this from her b/c she didn't know abt it which is deception..or she wud hv done the 7yrs. There is no commonsense to any of this. It shld be a success story that Florida cud use to promote there reentry system.

​@@My-Name-Isnt-Importantwhat victums?

Exactly. It stopped her from getting her dream job. The state is ridiculous.

That's the plan. It's customer retention at it's finest.

The culture in America is really more punitive than just. Someone like this woman has to "pay the price" for decades, while people with connections that ruins thousands of lives get a slap on the wrist

i am all for people having to be penalized when they do wrong, but what the state is doing to this women is also wrong, remember when you used to get in a fight with your siblings growing up and mom would say 'two wrongs dont make a right.' I guess Florida law makers forgot that lesson.

@@Here4TheHeckOfItthe real crime is not being one of the elite. Gotta keep the poors down or else they may have the energy to fight back.

Idk maybe this will keep them from reoffending A little tax return to us would be nice too we paid for her food roof and clothing

She must have stolen from or fucked over the wrong person.. My guess

@@Nothingisavailible and thats the exact problem, the first thing you say is how it will stop em from reoffending. Some one like this women has changed her life but you're the type of ppl that still see em as a criminal

She didn't pay in time. she did less than a year of a 7 year sentence. She still owes.

@@Nothingisavailible It's been over TEN YEARS.

Like the NFL , it’s a business.

Sounds like a deterrent for crime. Don't want to owe money for your prison stay, don't commit crimes against fellow citizens.

​@@My-Name-Isnt-Important if only the rules apply to those at the top 🎩

​@@everythingisfine9988no this is only for the pawns. I bet you that the the person who posted that comment supports the mafia Don to be dictator over our country.

@@My-Name-Isnt-Important It doesn't to me. It sounds like it will create more serious criminals. What's the point of trying to reform if it is not possible? And it won't deter the worst criminals because they never care to reform. It seems like a trap for anyone who is trying to reform their life and a scam by the prison industrial complex to get rich through exploitation.

​@@My-Name-Isnt-Important except I highly doubt anyone committing crimes knows this until after being incarcerated

*If she didn't commit a crime this never would have happened.. Her fault.*

These kind of laws essentially make staying an addicted on the streets a better outcome, they're backwards. Restitution is one thing but it needs to be reasonable and realistic. $50 a day is not reasonable nor realistic, especially in her circumstance where she wasn't even in the cell for a majority of that time. The fact that they're using this debt to prohibit people from being licensed with the state to then go into jobs where making those payments is more realistic is completely absurd

@@user-wr6sv9pj1l Exactly, like how is she suppose to pay the money back if she can't get a higher paying job? As you said, it's to keep people down.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Florida is a great place for the law abiding.

*Agree, criminal's should stay out of Florida...*

Crime is still so rampant I’m not sure it’s great for non criminals. It seems to be a very comfortable place for wealthy white criminals.

@@Novusodnah it’s a swamp

Please feel free to stay away!

And what about all the other people that may have had their sentences cut short, but were also sentenced to many years as well. You could have hundreds of people that could be paying for that same cell.

💙🇺🇲 Florida is getting more than double, this is hwy robbery. 🤬

we would be surprised... theres a warden that feeds inmates nutraloaf, to save money, so he could use the funds to buy a vacation home. you cant make this $hit up

it's getting paid tripple

​@@vulcan2882 More than that, even. See ebayerr's comment above.

Already is broken

It broke long long long ago where TF have you been for 40 years 🤣 Delusional Clown !

Do the crime do the time and they should haft to pay less people in jail that way

Tax payers should not have to pay for criminals time behind bars. The law is great 👍

@@richcampbell6808 not to mention the other million things we pay for that keep increasing every 3 months !

Right?! I had no idea they want the money back for your prison sentence, so what was the time in jail for since it's not to pay back debt to society?

i believe in restitution but not this BS

Nope you have to pick the bill.Its not taxpayers problem that you took the life of crime.

What would be a reasonable sentence for a teenager (16) that raped his younger sister multiple times over 2 years ??

@@RoadrunnerCoyote When you point your finger at someone, you are also pointing 3 back at yourself. I've never been to jail or even arrested. Your assumption that every person in jail has had a "life of crime" is laughable if you're over 16 years old. Charge them fines if you want, but this after the fact springing 6 figure bills method is not becoming of a respectable justice system.

She should sue the boyfriend oh wait she was a willing participant

We let them get away with this its our fault

@@LiberalcaliShe admits that and has paid her due in time served. Why did the state not contact her earlier if they felt she owed them money? Instead they sprung it on her when she went to advance herself.

I agree, cruel and unusual punishment!!

Stay out of prison as easily as staying out !

Plus giving them no services to help rehabilitate themselves

@@angelahansen3398 the system gave up on rehabilitation a long time ago. It's about punishment and profit. But getting charged for being locked up is news to me.

There is an alternative...don't commit a crime.

@@johnny2thumbs247 unfortunately, crime-free utopian societies don't exist. So how to treat prisoners is still an issue we have to deal with.

"Cruel and illogical" should be the FL state motto.

Hopefully it will also keep people from doing dumb things that lands them in jail.

@@arkhanhind2613 what? That’s stupid you can go to jail for anything even for something you didn’t do

@@arkhanhind2613 Irrelevant.

😮oh I understand she has a criminal record.. years later is is now starting to pay. I am amazed and gobsmacked. 😢

@@arkhanhind2613 You would think so. But it's not going to prevent the worst criminals who don't care about such things. It only serves to punish the most likely to be reformed. On top of that, what they are doing sounds an awful lot like fraud.

It does make the victims of crime whole if you can picture that the victim is a tax payer paying for their attackers housing. But points to my comment about there needs to be a program which discounts or removes the fees if able to reform.

@user-nc3dl6zo7e the opoid epidemic for all intents and purposes, was started in Florida because the state government wouldn't step in... they let doctor's set up pillmills on every corner. People were coming from all across the country to Florida to get prescriptions they didn't need, but Dr's in Florida were all to willing to hand out... the Florida government didn't step in to stop it untill it was beyond out of control and the federal government was giving them no choice but to step in.

The Rich own the incarceration system. If she had done her full time would she still owe?

Ya this is disgusting, they want her to be a productive member of society again after jail and then they brake her, that makes no sense and ya it's not surprising that this comes out of Florida, i absolutely agree.

Apples and oranges.

I totally agree.

Cruel AND unusual not cruel or unusual its cruel but not usual :/

Since when did criminals keep their rights???

Your whole governments criminal🙄

@@thepolishredneck3941easy. When they finish their sentence.

They are HUMAN !

@@thepolishredneck3941 Criminals are protected by the US Constitution. This may fall under cruel and unusual punishment.

Why aren't we charging the same rates to politicians for occupying offices ?

She shouldn’t pay rent on someplace she is forced at gun point to be regardless of using the cell. Thats extortion isn’t it.

Also It's a problem because guards and prisons can be encouraged to make claims to increase prison time

She was let out early, her original sentencing is what she owes. Doesn't matter she didn't do the whole time, justice is being served. You commit crimes against fellow citizens, you will pay for your time in prison.

The actual professional lawyers, paralegals, etc, would have been winning lawsuits left and right, and be advertising publicly everywhere IF you knew what you were talking about. I mean seriously, lawyers have been lawyering for centuries, and their one job is to find the illegal or unconstitution thing in their client's case that wins the case and gets them paid as well as makes GREAT publicity and advertising for ther law firm. Not to mention there already would have been HUNDREDS of court precedents that would have prevented Florida from even suggesting it initially. But there isn't any of that, is there?. For what this news article is talking about, which isn't even the definition or action of double sentencing, might be unheard of in Florida.... but iirc Florida also has a chomo neighborhood, trailer park, and mini-town just for the monsters to have a safe place to live, surrounded by and living next to like minded genetic misfires... Um, if the jail is privtely owned especially, it is not double sentencing. Even if it is also susbsidized, the private jail is allowed to charge their own operating fees seperate from what is subsidized. Besides..... If what all you said is true, then why hasnt every jail inmate for decades been able to sue, or been able to have an attorney successfully sue jails for millions of dollars AND WIN THOSE LAWSUITS???? If it is so illegal and unconstitutional, how come every law firm across the country doesn't advertise "Have you been billed for serving time in jail? You may be due compensation. Call our law offices today for a FREE consultation." How come there is not 1 single class action lawsuit filed in history, let alone won in a court room, against jails and prison for charging inmates as double sentencing???

This looks like why

It was a state prison, not private.

@@The2ndFirst Cat and Tiger are feline the same species!

Yeah but way diiferent.

I agree, twice over!

They are being compensated twice once by the tax payer while the prisoner is incarcerated and then by the prisoner after release.

Just more Florida government corruption !🙄

Isn’t it double dipping? Tax payers pay to house inmates 😢

@@jackiemills2466 yes it sure is!

watch the debt get passed down to next of kin. some feudal shiz

This doesn’t hurt criminals because criminals don’t care. It only hurts people that want to make an honest effort to be part of civil society.

They won't receive income tax returns, any settlement awards, nothing of the kind until that "debt" is paid off. 😢

You'd be right. The county's that do this only make at most 15% of the debts back. Some barely make 5% back.

​@@Winstonrodney6989 well.. The 13-year-old who stole a candy bar has A permanent financial life sentence attached to it, might as well go to the nice neighborhoods for a home invasion. And leave no witnesses

It's a scam to ensure you can never get out of the system.

It just guarantees someones failure, it's already hard enough to get work after Prison,and still keep a roof over Your head, but to get out crushed with debt is insane.

Our government are worse criminals than the supposed animals locked in a cage

What crime did he commit? That's on him.

@@AmateurArtisan I didn't say he should not be there, did I?

FL. Prisons killed 500 inmates in 2014!!! You can look up the most horrifying murder by FL prison guards by typing in the name Darrel Rainey. Boiled to death in 180 degrees fahrenheit shower for 9 hours. The pictures are worse than any gruesome mass killers in history.

Imagine if there's a tax to just live, and no, I am not talking about the taxes that you always have to pay the government. If there's a tax to live and you didn't get a chance to pay that type of tax, then you're gonna be thrown in jail because you are unaffordable to pay for just being alive.

@@RTMonitor Not comparable, stop deflecting. This is a a part of the punishment that comes with the consequences of their choice to break the law.

That's around $1,500 a month, around what I pay in rent a month. Why should the tax payers, pay for her? Should everyone pay for my apartment?

@@Ninnjette- Nobody is asking the taxpayers to pay for her. The state of Florida wants her to pay for a jail cell that she is not occupying. Why should she be charged for something that she is not using?

@Kirby467-sk2hs If the inmates don't pay for their cells, who does?.... The taxpayer!!! Duh! She's still paying on when she was there, she's paying back rent. She wasn't making enough money at the time to pay that every month, how is that confusing to you? You've never heard of back rent?

@@Ninnjette- I am not confused about the facts which are the state of Florida wants her to pay not only for the 10 months she was incarcerated, but for the remaining 6+ years of her sentence that she was not incarcerated. That would be like your landlord wanting you to continue to pay rent on an apartment after you had moved out and someone else had moved in. I doubt you would consider that fair.

@Kirby467-sk2hs Don't break the law lol Simple as that.

But she wasn't in a room

What? You're not making any sense. What is this "bottom line that you're referring to? It's not $75. It's $50, which she shouldn't have to pay, of course.

It’s unfair for those she stole from and they probably never got any monetary for those items

@@2112jpthe court usually in issues restitution for the items as apart of sentencing so she paid that already plus this?

@@2112jp The punishment does not fit the crime though. It's very unlikely she stole $127,000 worth if she only served 10 months. It's reasonable that she should not have to owe $127,000.

Not just unfair but also illegal and unconstitutional.

@@UltimateWaifuXD What law does this break, and where in the constitution does it say you can't have prisoners pay for their prison time? She was willing to commit crimes, and should have served her full sentence, but unfortunately was released early.

Criminals should pay for the prisons and the guards it takes to keep them there. It shouldn't be free.

@@Darjaboo But there is no incentive to clean up your act because you’ll need to rob a bank to pay this off! 😂 You’re way of thinking prohibits people from rehabilitating and re acclimating into society which is tough enough with a record. $127k? No one can afford that!

Why aren't we charging the same rates to politicians for occupying offices ?

​@@Darjabooyou're are a foolish person to not understand how moraly defunct this claim is

​@@Darjabooyou are foolish to not understand how moraly defunct this argument is

That's crazy

Correct modern day slavery we ignore because of complacency and corruption

I suppose in some way it's an incentive to not commit crime, but what about those who are wrongfully accused??

@@tinamckenna7514 That's just one of the reasons this is bs. Prisons are not supposed to be for profit businesses, they're to house maniacs. Most inmates are not maniacs, many are victims of a crummy environment, caused in many way by over taxation. These businesses and not the ones paying off the politicians but regular businesses mom and pop businesses need to be keeping their money to grow their businesses, to help provide a gainful environment with an over abundance of jobs. Instead of the money laundering system that's going on now, that only benefits those at the extreme top of the food chain. These prisons have become a part of that food chain. Prisons should be an expense to the state as an incentive for the politicians to create a positive system instead of trying to go back to the European oligarchy the founders purposely broke from for many of the reasons I just mentioned. 🇺🇸💔

@@jaimestephens3976 It seems most laws established by the founders have fallen by the wayside in favor of capitalism 🙄.

How do you think she became a phlebotomist? She received education while in Prison, which is a service offered to all inmates. Funny how nobody seems to think about this woman's victims. She is a felon that chose to commit crimes against fellow citizens, she owes the prison for her housing, food, and everything else she received while in prison.

And then creating more misery with debt...

So, don't go to prison.

@@alaska-bornfloridaman exactly. Have to love the way she says 'the director' kicked me out of rehab center' no responsibility for her behavior that caused her to be dismissed from the facility. I feel no sympathy because the taxpayers pay for all prison cost in most states, bout time inmates pay m imo

@@alaska-bornfloridaman Well she was not in the prison for all the months she was charged so it still is an unfair practice.

@@alaska-bornfloridaman Innocent people go to prison all the time.

No dikweed...its a solid way to support corruption and greed. Soon you're gonna get thrown in jail for 5mph over the limit, dont act like your an angel...we all know of your previous DUIs

Tell that to this woman's victims. She is a felon for a reason.

*Don't be a criminal and you don't have to worry about it..*

Bet they were guilty though. Why shouldn't people who lack the ethics and morality to be productive members of our society be made to pay for the costs they incurred?

@@blacksmoke3113 Because that "pay to stay" law was literally designed to keep people down. People who end up in prisons are not usually wealthy; this is an intentionally designed policy to take advantage of the lowest class of people.

ikr

@@blacksmoke3113Heck we let people that lack ethics and morality become the President if they are rich enough.

I bet the victim of their crime doesn't mind.

I mean, i knew prison wasn’t a free stay, but she was only there for 7 months, but they charge her 10 years of a stay is crazy.

All of Oklahoma county jails and prisons are the same. Roughly $20 a day.