Flow NX2 TM Hybrid Binding Review vs. Supermatic, Step On & Clew

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0:00 - Intro
1:01 - How I Tested Them
1:31 - Summary
2:33 - Weight
3:21 - Highback Flex
4:44 - Flex Underfoot
6:11 - Turn Initiation/Response
8:01 - Shock Absorption/Dampness
9:37 - Boot Support
11:32 - Adjustability
12:42 - Conclusion

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25 июл 2024

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@rancidhotmail Год назад

Nice! ive been waiting for this video for a while, thanks for all your work guys!

@thegoodridesnow Год назад

Thanks for taking the time to write this.

@bocongzheng1519 29 дней назад

Really good reviw! Thank you!

@samshaffer680 8 месяцев назад

really appreciate the video. thank you

@vipercrazy9910 8 месяцев назад

I got the NX2 TM Hybrid last year on sale, coming from a set of Burton C60's from 2006 these bindings are incredible. Sure you need to adjust straps one or two clicks the first few runs but you will be way ahead of your friends even after adjusting. For a quick entry binding these had the perfect mix of good reviews from multiple places, and being a high end binding with decent discounts, other brands I could not find the same sales.

@thegoodridesnow 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for your take. Ah man. I remember those c60's.

@JacopoSkydweller 6 месяцев назад

Feeling pretty good about the NX2 TM's I just ordered now. I did a lot of research, but most of the snowboard videos I found reviewing seemed pretty "Yeah bro these bindings are sick". This is a great breakdown, thanks.

@thegoodridesnow 6 месяцев назад

Thanks! Greatly appreciated!!!

@SlingShotKid007 6 месяцев назад

This is a great video, thank you.

@thegoodridesnow 6 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@florianalexander Год назад

I totally agree with you about the advantages the Flow binding brings compared to the other bindings. Thanks for the video. Of course, the traditional binding is optimal for all boarders who snowboarding a lot and are often in the park. I am such a typical winter tourist and ride a maximum mostly of 6 days a year and mostly on a groomed slope, but with a focus on deep snow when available. I have therefore intensively compared between the Flow and the Burton StepOn, with a focus on the convenience of getting in. But in the end I came to the same conclusion as you and stayed with the Flow. I've been riding Flow for 13 years and remain so. The new Flow NX TM is really very good.

@thegoodridesnow Год назад

Thanks for your take!

@TrakxGoPro 8 месяцев назад

i just bought the NX TM. Anxious to try it

@morganverdure6116 8 месяцев назад

@@TrakxGoPro you will get used to until you cant' go back... I went bak to Salomon quantum and holograms. Even if i love that skate feel, believe me i miss my flows. I had to retrurn them because i chose them too small as many others have done.... The comfort of the base plate is phenomenal. Dont worry about that heellift sensation... Once you réalise the binding is so réactive you can ride them loose you will forget about it... Have fun

@jasonk7794 7 месяцев назад

hi, which strap do you prefer? hybrid or fusion

@or-ian6973 Год назад

Been on flow nx2’s for three years now. I own the GT’s and the cheaper versions both hybrid and fusion straps. I would only buy nx2’s if getting flows. The active strap and adjustability is very much needed. The straps both have pros and cons. Either work well. Hybrids are easier so setup but not always the easiest to use. Another good thing about flows is you can buy any part you need. After several years on them they’re fully rebuildable.

@thegoodridesnow Год назад

Thanks for your take.

@or-ian6973 Год назад

Another thing, the flow bindings and maybe also the nideckers use a offset disk. So you can adjust heel to toe and front to back at the same time. Notice the holes are not centered on the flow disk.

@thegoodridesnow Год назад

Thanks for your pointer.

@artempak3055 Год назад

Nice video! I noticed that you didn't review the K2 Click system - would be really interested in comparison with the ones you already reviewed. Especially because they're supposed to be less responsive than Burton Step Ons

@thegoodridesnow Год назад

Thanks! Yeah couldn't get a hold of them. My K2 contact didn't have any.

@azonicrider32 7 месяцев назад

You gotta test a Karakoram binding! Thanks for another great review that truly helped me make a choice. I used to ride flow in the early 00's and loved them, but once toestrap bindings started to get better it was a hard sell. Looks like im going to look for an NX2 carbon hybrid from Flow.

@thegoodridesnow 7 месяцев назад

We have and didn't have a great experience with them. The are put together many parts and had lots of failures at times when it wasn't good to have em. That was a few years ago though so willing to risk it and give it a try if the construction looks different. Thanks and hope they work for ya.

@livelikeitslegal Год назад

Picked up a pair of the TM hybrid and have logged 2 days riding so far in varying conditions. The padding underfoot is very comfortable really absorbs chop well. It does have a bit of learning curve with still needing to adjust the ratchets to get in and out. With the hybrid I do like the full toe strap it is very flexible and molding to the shape of the boot but really makes it hard to kick in the boot if it is not loosened before the step in. I think the fusion will be slightly easier to get in and out of with less need for adjustment. The highback adjustment screw allows for very dialed in angles but at max angle makes the lock mechanism difficult for on the fly in 'n out.

@thegoodridesnow Год назад

Thanks for your take.

@TrakxGoPro 8 месяцев назад

Yes the fusion is easier to step in

@gwoodsy6872 4 месяца назад

Push into the shin of your boot when locking in the highback, you then don’t need to adjust the ratchets. You also don’t need to have the bindings set as tight because the power triangle is more responsive than standard bindings.

@iTzz_NoToRiOuS_b 3 месяца назад

@@gwoodsy6872 what u mean the power triangle ? I just bought the hybrid version and really debating on swapping them..

@or-ian6973 Год назад

I’m surprised nidecker got rid of the stiffer GT model for the flows. Wonder why…

@leaaae4638 9 месяцев назад

i wish SP binding is more popular here in the states. I see a lot of ppl use it in Japan, Korea, and China. Very popular there. Trying to get one in the US cost so much to ship here.

@codybythesea 4 месяца назад

GNU has the distribution rights of SP here in the states, check out GNU Psych and Cheeter, exactly the same as SP binding

@leaaae4638 4 месяца назад

nooooo if only you reply earlier lol. I bought a SP Slab 2 months ago from europe. $390 after shipping and tax lol. It is equivalent to GNU Freedom which is is having a sale here for $263 on evo! @@codybythesea

@TrakxGoPro 8 месяцев назад

i agree on your take about fusion vs hybrid, but the solution using the fusion is to offset the binding position to the toe side (to achieve the same feeling to the hybrid)

@thegoodridesnow 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for your take. Not all can do that though. You slide too far forward and you are at the upper end of the recommended sizing you might get toe drag.

@TrakxGoPro 8 месяцев назад

Yes, very true. Nt my case.@@thegoodridesnow

@getoutdoors2693 Год назад

All contact will save your board when you are flexing on those binding mounting bolts

@surjerrylee 3 месяца назад

Very helpful! How does the NX2 Hybrids compare to the Union Atlas? Which would you prefer? And which would you recommend for the 2024 Ride Superpig?

@surjerrylee 3 месяца назад

Also you mentioned you're a size 9 but are you using the medium NX2s? I thought the max size on the mediums were 8.5?

@thegoodridesnow 3 месяца назад

Thanks! I prefer the Atlas or Union Force or Rome Katana or Cleaver for the Superpig. You get a lot more adjustability and response vs. this binding.

@thegoodridesnow 3 месяца назад

Oh sorry! I miss spoke in the review. I rode the Large but called it the medium. Sorry! Most bindings I review come in size medium so with their sizing being a little different I slipped up and said medium instead of large.

@caliraisedexotics 6 месяцев назад

I’ve been on the fence trying to decide whether to go with flows nx2 gt hybrids vs the supermatics..I’ll be making this decision in the next day or two but I still don’t know which to chose being on union bindings my whole life..I’m stuck in a corner here smh

@thegoodridesnow 6 месяцев назад

I would say both are pretty good bindings. It's mainly about weight vs. convenience. The Super is very heavy but I like the turning experience a little better with it and it's super easy on and off. The Flow is much lighter but it also has a much more shock absorbent footbed and a better feel underfoot. So it really comes down to personal preference.

@luvinfunvan Год назад

Nice, I think I'll grab a set of these in the Hybrid strap setup.

@thegoodridesnow Год назад

Glad it helps.

@guest426 Год назад

What a coincidence, I am selling my pair to go back to traditional bindings.

@jonnyhughes2517 Год назад

I’m a UK8/8.5 snowboard boot. What size flow Hybrid binding will I need? Online says Large but I notice in the video you said yours were Medium?

@thegoodridesnow Год назад

With US 9-9.5/UK 8-8.5 I would go Large which is basically a medium in every other binding brand in the industry. Sorry I forgot to clarify when I said medium in the vid!!

@jonnyhughes2517 Год назад

@@thegoodridesnow also one more question for you, I see a price difference between the flow fuse hybrid and flow nx2 hybrid - but what’s the real difference? I’m intermediate boarder. Thanks for your help

@wizardng 6 месяцев назад

I had flow nx2 for 5 years. I upgraded my boot And had to move the back to adjust my boots to the center, what a job. Had to take out 6 screws which one hidden inside which was ……work. 😢

@thegoodridesnow 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for your take!

@brianp9268 5 месяцев назад

You just unscrew the ankle straps then unscrew the highback and cable.

@RaulDominguez23 Год назад

How would you compare the flow fenix hybrid vr flow fuse hybrid?

@thegoodridesnow Год назад

Haven't ridden the Flow Fuse. Only the GT 5 yrs ago which is a different binding. Haven't ridden the Fenix Hybrid but want to because it has a more supportive strap. So because of that it's really hard to say.

@Daz555Daz Год назад

Comparing the Supermatic to the Flow, the Flow looks like Nidecker will discontinue it at some point soon.

@wayte7615 Год назад

i read some posts about adjustability of "heelcup" on the nx2, meaning it can slide in and out. Is that possible on the current flow lineups? or they dropped that feature?

@thegoodridesnow Год назад

I couldn't find a way to adjust them but i might have missed it.

@wayte7615 Год назад

@@thegoodridesnow thanks. after some digging on the internet, it seems like the heelcup can be pushed back to accomodate larger boot. There is a second hole in the middle of the baseplate chasis where the cable can be moved to, and heelcup assembly should also be moved back.

@thegoodridesnow Год назад

Great to know and I'll definitely geek more on it next time. Thanks! I wish there was more adjustability than just that though.

@or-ian6973 Год назад

@@wayte7615 you are correct. The one piece backs or the older GT models all can slide back and with that so does the cable. Check flows page for detailed instructions on that

@wayte7615 Год назад

@@or-ian6973 thanks for confirming

@aricharlap9761 Год назад

What's the difference between the TM and the regular Flow NX2?

@or-ian6973 Год назад

Tm is cheaper. Doesn’t have any adjustments except for forward lean and the straps.

@JacopoSkydweller 6 месяцев назад

I see this is 10 months old, but the TM is less stiff by design as well. @@or-ian6973

@Not2BadEH Год назад

how does step on feel more responsible? The toe side lag on mine is crazy, I have to put extra rubber under my heels to solve it

@thegoodridesnow Год назад

Just to clarify are you saying you have Step On's now with Lag or do you have Flow's with lag?

@Not2BadEH Год назад

@@thegoodridesnow Step On‘s，the high back lock just can’t stick to the lower part, I have to put some rubber under the boots, make the high back even more aggressive to eliminate the gap, but it still not 100% solved

@thegoodridesnow Год назад

That sounds like a warranty issue. It should click all the way down and hold. Hit Burton up and try to get a new pair.

@trex2957 Год назад

@@thegoodridesnow rubber heel is part of the binding and depresses over time (i used photon boots). Just one of numerous fallings in the Burton Genesis (2022) step on and photon boots. 10 weeks complete failure of boots and bindings. Good luck getting hold of Burton EU if you are that side of the Atlantic...

@jrpworks3613 6 месяцев назад

Men’s Flow medium only goes to 8.5 according to their website

@thegoodridesnow 5 месяцев назад

Shit! Sorry! It was the Large. Most bindings sent to me and fit size 9 US boots are mediums.

@olasandstig3657 11 месяцев назад

Interesting review! How about binding drag on the heel side? I have the Burton Step on and compared to traditional bindings they "steal" 1 cm from the board width as the heel cup is thicker and I get binding drag instead of boot drag. Quite annoying.

@thegoodridesnow 11 месяцев назад

Yeah Burton is very thick in the heel with the Step On and there is limited adjustability to fix that problem. These are not thick in the heel like that.