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Flyback Converter Design Deep Dive 

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@greendragonmakerspace
@greendragonmakerspace Год назад
Lol at the comments. Thanks for an informative video. I feel this series isn't getting enough love. :)
@myetis1990
@myetis1990 Год назад
​ @Zachariah Peterson sir it is perfect for a 15min video, thank you so much. I think the component selection and more details about opto feedback (especially tl431 usage) and snubber in another video would be diving deeper :) and the crucial part EMC filter and some layout tips deserves another video :) what I'm wondering is how do we add current control to this circuit.
@johnpomaro1731
@johnpomaro1731 Год назад
Perhaps not a "deep dive," but still a very good explanation of a simple flyback PS. Worth the 15 minutes. One can spend an entire semester learning switching supplies in detail.
@Zachariah-Peterson
@Zachariah-Peterson Год назад
About as deep as you're going to get with the 15 minutes we're alloted per video.
@johnpomaro1731
@johnpomaro1731 Год назад
@@Zachariah-Peterson Agreed. As I said, worth the time.
@sadunnakipoglu9471
@sadunnakipoglu9471 4 месяца назад
شكرآ جزيلا على هذا الفيديو المفيد . تحياتي لك من تركيا.
@AltiumAcademy
@AltiumAcademy 4 месяца назад
على الرحب والسعة
@MuhammadQasimRauf
@MuhammadQasimRauf Год назад
I do believe the ground reference used by the bridge mentioned at 04:54 is the same as the ground reference used by MOSFET. As far as the isolation goes the same is provided by the transformer.
@Zachariah-Peterson
@Zachariah-Peterson Год назад
Yes they are the same reference, don't mind the symbol difference, and yes transformer provides isolation which is why I did not put a symbol there but just a negative terminal for an output.
@MuhammadQasimRauf
@MuhammadQasimRauf Год назад
@@Zachariah-Peterson thanks for the clarification.
@selva81652
@selva81652 Год назад
Hi, Kindly do more video about it with schematics and pcb design of flyback convertor.
@kecsrobi6854
@kecsrobi6854 Год назад
IS it really a transformer and not a coupled inductor? asking since i remember you needed an air gap. I tried to build one in the past but the hardest part was the transformer* part since most out there are built on order and figuring out the proper generic part out there was the hardest part, maybe you can expand on this on a later video. Or how to make one from a toroid. Also what is the switching frequency range for flybacks ? buck boosts can go up to a few MHz but I never saw any flyback that was even close , also what would be optimal from a efficiency point ? Does the transformer* limit the switching frequency ? Regarding multi output one i have a few questions: 1 how will the power draw in one affect the other? As in if from the 12v DC rail we draw .1A and then 1A how will this affect the 3v3 rail? the rail with the FB will be ok but i am afraid of voltage saggs on the other one. OR should i size the other one higher and then use a LDO after the diode? 2 can i set a center tap like GND so that i also get negative voltages? 3 If i would desire a few DC rails with the same GND wouldn't it be simpler to make a higher DC single rail and then add a few LDOs or bucks on that DC line? (not sure about cost but i assume it is more expensive at scale)
@NicBellamy
@NicBellamy Год назад
It's absolutely a coupled inductor in flyback supplies; it's where the name comes from - energy "flies back" - magnetic flux is built up in the core during the primary on-time, then collapsed into the secondary(ies) in the off-time. Each switching cycle transfers a "packet" of energy; the size of this packet is proportional to the inductance and square of the current. Since the time it takes to ramp up the current is proportional to the inductance, it's more beneficial to lower the inductance to increase the current. This does however result in high magnetic flux, which is why flyback cores are either gapped, or a powdered iron core is used (which effectively has a distributed air gap, allowing for higher flux before saturation). You can only decrease the inductance so much before current levels become unmanageable, so between this and other factors such a switching losses, there's a "sweet spot" for the flyback topology, which is why you only really find them in the sub-200W power range; above this, a design using true transformer action wins (eg. forward converter, half/full bridge)
@NicBellamy
@NicBellamy Год назад
Forgot to add re: multi output. You'd take your feedback from the output rail that needs the tightest regulation. There's nothing stopping you adding linear regulators afterwards, but if you're doing it because you want a really clean output, you'll need careful L-C pre-filtering before the linear regulator, as they aren't very good at filtering out the high frequency components of the switching noise that the flyback will generate.
@kecsrobi6854
@kecsrobi6854 Год назад
@@NicBellamy THX i was considering a PI filter after the diode anyway + potentially some synchronous rectification
@kecsrobi6854
@kecsrobi6854 Год назад
@@NicBellamy So if i use some of those powdered toroid's i can wind the inductors and not bother cutting into it? NICE But i am still a bit clueless about how to filter out the good ones are the powdered materials from a certain series or is the a material number range? asking since i am a bit lost on mouser
@km-electronics1
@km-electronics1 Год назад
Thank you Zach, what should the ground reference for AC power be? Neutral? Protective Ground?
@Zachariah-Peterson
@Zachariah-Peterson Год назад
If by "reference" you mean the AC equivalent of a negative terminal for return currents then it would be neutral. The protective earth is connection is not meant to be a current carrying conductor so it should not be used as such. It is useful to provide a safety ground using the chassis, or by drawing an earth ground ring around the edge of the board.
@petersage5157
@petersage5157 Год назад
I came up with CRT televisions that had HT (frequently on the order of a KV) flyback converters. Could you relate this to your low voltage applications?
@MrEricosse
@MrEricosse Год назад
Thanks
@МаркУотни
@МаркУотни Год назад
Not even close to deep dive
@Zachariah-Peterson
@Zachariah-Peterson Год назад
Well we do what we can with 15 minutes, so....
@GalgoczkiAdam
@GalgoczkiAdam Год назад
Can we use full-bridge rectifier on the output? I never seen that, mostly there is a center-tap coil for secondary and two diodes on both end. I guess because the few turn of copper is much cheaper then two fast switching power diode, but I'm nut sure. Is there any other reason why it is unusual?
@Zachariah-Peterson
@Zachariah-Peterson Год назад
I suppose you could but I have never seen it, I would need to think about it. I do recall seeing center-tap coil designs on the secondary side, and to rectify both would need diodes, but I see it more often when you want two output rails or in a full-bridge topology.
@GalgoczkiAdam
@GalgoczkiAdam Год назад
@@Zachariah-Peterson Thank you
@michaelardai9703
@michaelardai9703 Год назад
Geranium diodes?
@Zachariah-Peterson
@Zachariah-Peterson Год назад
Yes Germanium diodes can be used instead of Si if you want lower forward voltage.
@michaelardai9703
@michaelardai9703 Год назад
@@Zachariah-Peterson Yes, for a Germanium diode (though now days I would use a Schottky) but you suggested a Geranium diode. A flowery little critter.
@Zachariah-Peterson
@Zachariah-Peterson Год назад
@@michaelardai9703 I don't think I said anything about a flower diode, but maybe the captions did 😆
@Tuong11a
@Tuong11a Год назад
J4f: triangle is not diode 😂
@Zachariah-Peterson
@Zachariah-Peterson Год назад
At least it's pointing the right way 😂
@BJH-fm1pf
@BJH-fm1pf Год назад
Your bridge rectifier looks incorrect.
@Zachariah-Peterson
@Zachariah-Peterson Год назад
It's correct, I just drew the input connections from the side and not from the top.
@BogdanSerban
@BogdanSerban Год назад
Doesn't he know how to draw a diode?
@Zachariah-Peterson
@Zachariah-Peterson Год назад
Sorry you don't like my hasty diodes. At least you knew it was a diode.
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