Focal 80 Evo VS. Yamaha HS 8 

The longer I have them the more I love them and hate them at the same time. 😃😃

@@jltbk5420 i have to replace my Mackie XR824's imo wonderful sounding monitors the tweeters are magic, i'm leaning towards these as I love the sound of metal tweeters and I know the bottom end on these is tight

Yeah. I've ben researching the EVO Twins myself.....not a lotta reviews tho... there are few producers I trust that gave positive "unbiased" reviews on em....and how they sound....

I would consider adding the Focal Sub One with the Twins.... kinda pricey....but heyy?

Thanks. What’s the reason that you want to upgrade? Tbh if I didn’t have to upgrade due to speaker making noises I would’ve still rocked with the hs8. I say that because my room isn’t treated. These focals sound really good but I almost feel like I’m not getting the most out of them because of all the reflections off my walls. Also now that I’ve had them longer they hit even harder. Less low frequency ducking when I crank them now. Plus the low frequency and high frequency attenuation knobs are great. But my suggestion is don’t upgrade unless you have to. Hs8 are solid. I’m actually about to put my hs8 back up at low volume for mixing since I’m used to their sound. I trust what I’m hearing out of the Yamaha. I know I’m all over the place with this response. Hopefully this makes sense for you.

@@jltbk5420 hi, do the Yamaha HS8s have louder volume or about the same compared to these Focal Alpha Evos? Thanks

@@h.m.2434 Yes. They have a knob on the rear that’ll turn the volume up or down. It also has 2 switches 1 that’ll adjust the high frequency - or + 2db at 2khz and another switch that does the same for low frequency at 500 hz. The volume knob is independent from the knob used on your audio interface. My best advice is to keep the main knob on the back at the 12 o’clock position and adjust to taste

Thanks for the comment. Almost 3 weeks after I published the video they started having less of the (ducking) that I mentioned in the video. I believe this was the speaker protecting themselves because the cones weren’t fully broken in. Now that they are these speakers are awesome. Focals are definitely louder however when they both are cranked the Yamaha’s are slightly harsh in the top end. But all I’m all focals are better by a mid/small margin. And I believe only by a small margin to me because I’m working with both in a untreated environment. Thanks for stopping by glad you enjoyed the video.

@jltbk5420 thank you very much for reply. Yeah, I watched your video and some others and read reviews, pretty much satisfied with what I heard. Can you just tell me are they much louder than hs8 or a little louder (if that can even be measured by words xD)?

@@brefcon Tbh it feels like it’s quite a bit louder. But if you’re thinking about getting them and you’re coming from the hs7 you’ll notice a big difference. The fact that they’re front ported makes them feel louder when I’m using them. Hope this helps. If you’re thinking of getting them you won’t be disappointed. You’ll only hate them in the beginning when breaking them in, but once they’ve worn in you’ll notice that grin of excitement on your face

@jltbk5420 ok, thank you, I'm seriously thinking of getting them, but am not really decided yet, maybe I go to store and listen to them as well, just to be sure.

@@brefcon my suggestion is to get them from Sweetwater but before you order them call and talk to a sales rep and let them know you want to try them so if you don’t like them you can return them without issues. I’m building my 500 rack rn and by doing this I’m able to return what didn’t work out for me and get other modules that suit my needs. Hope this helps because you really have to spend time with monitors/speakers in different listing situations to see if they work out for you.

Tbh. I haven’t entertained the idea of a sub yet. I haven’t looked into a sub ever because I’ve always produced in smaller spaces that never required me to need more sub frequencies. So I wouldn’t be the best person to point you in the right direction.

Informative. No crazy comments over here 😂. Thank you

The price point is not the same. You’d pay $200 more for the alpha series same size 8 inch. IMO the focal sounds great maybe even better than the Yamaha. But for mixing I’d prefer the Yamaha just because I’m familiar with what I’m hearing. They’re flat and for the most part what you’re hearing is most accurate to what will translate in the car or ear buds. If that makes sense. If you’re asking which one should you buy over one or the other. I’d buy both and keep them to demo them against one another and make my decision that way. Return the one you’re least satisfied with. What I like may not work for you that why I say demo them. Just make sure you purchase from someone who has a good return policy.

@@jltbk5420 Thank you so much for your insight mate, cheers.

ADAM A7Vs 💯

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The beats on this project was intended to be exactly as the title shows

I’m actually gonna have to do this because I feel more and more that I’m not feeling my music the way I used to when I had a smaller room

Tbh that was my 1st choice but I had a budget. When I get a dedicated studio space I’ll definitely put money where it’s needed (monitoring-acoustic treatment).

Not sure really if a proportion of the praise of the "correction/compensation" feats on various monitors seriously equals its real usability in terms of "solution" to the room and placement. Given the obvious marketing hype, these switches are there to fiddle with the monitor response to compensate for acoustics in particular. One technical fact worth consideration is, that the studio monitor is originally constructed and tuned to perform as flat as possible across the bandwidth in which it is physically able to reproduce the sound. The flat performance is crucial part here. Engaging any kind of room correction (usually via low shelf eq), or high / low trim, directly influences the original flat performance of the monitor, usually as an attempt to sort out the missing or inadequate acoustics. As much as these functions are useful, they can (and quite often are) be also misleading, when engaged. Most of the time, when one needs to "correct" monitor, the issue is the room. The prosumer market expansion lead the music gear brands to develop and offer quite impressive tools for money and quality previously unheard of. Home studio monitoring is a great example. 25 years ago, there were no 8" bass monitors of similar quality for a price the low end/mid end is offered today, not to mention the quality. Thousands of the dollars were invested into rooms and monitors back in the days, today a very good sounding monitor sounds 20% of the price. As the brands are dealing with many new customers buying various affordable monitors, (such as 8") they realized that many semi pro-sumer's preferences do not consider acoustics as vital investment, yet want buy big monitors. Acoustics do not change monitor's performance, but they affect the listener's perception, and the difference between the treated/untreated room is huge. Now without room correction function many brands could be potentially facing bad reputation, coming unjustly from the users complaining about monitor's performance, although the problem is their untreated room or wrong setup. With a bunch of a fiddles at the back og the monitor one can satisfy his "sound" taste, thinking the troubles had been overcome. The truth is, no one can cheat physics.

@@indyawichofficial1346 Everything you’ve mentioned hit the nail on the head. Treatment is the most important part of a music studio. This is exactly what I mentioned in the video before upgrading monitors put that money into treatment however my motivation for upgrading was based on my last set of 8 inch monitors (Yamaha) giving sounds they were busted. If I could do it all over again I’d buy another pair of Yamaha’s. They just sound true to the source. But I agree most of consumer studio monitors can get the job done as long as you train your ear to what the speaker does. In my experience the Krk exaggerates the low end,same as the JBL. As long as you compensate that in the mix any studio monitors would be good but they’d really shine with proper acoustics. Unfortunately I don’t have the luxury of properly treating my set up do to the room I’m using :(

@@TachyonTheImmortal Yes I do still have the Adam speakers. The mid range in the Adam’s are decent however it’s hard to compare the Adam’s I have to the focals due to the size of both of them. My Adam’s are 7” and focals 8”. So the bass in the Adam’s in my room Imo are almost non existent. But that’s just me. My space is untreated and it’s rather large for that size. If I were you and you had the money demo them both and return the ones you’re less happy with. Or go to your local Guitar center and see if they have them on demo to try both of them. I hope this helps.

@@jltbk5420 I just got the focal 8". Need to set them up though. I was considering the Adam 8" as a second pair because I'd like try out the ribbon tweeters.

Yes. But now that the speakers are burned in (broken in) there’s little to no ducking when volume is turned up

@jltbk5420 sorry, I don't understand, was the ducking effect present at 0db or +6db sensitivity?

@@brefcon I’m sorry I didn’t answer the initial question but I’ve only used the 0db setting with both low cut and high cut in the middle. As of lately I’ve reduced the low cut 2-4 db but that was after the “ducking” had already went away. Hope this answers your question correctly

@jltbk5420 yeah, that's it, thank you for your answer, it's a little sad that's at 0db, but at least now almost no ducking

@jltbk5420 tell me which audio interface do you use for your focal alpha and did you had ducking effect on yamaha on same audio interface?

I know. It would have. But I wasn’t equipped to show that demonstration. Thanks for commenting

@@jltbk5420 Even a phone recording would have been enough to hear the nuances, i`m looking to get these 80 evo`s over my hs8`s and have nowhere to listen to them, i can only purchase from thomann .

Much respect 🫡

My space is actually pretty big. But you’re right as far as treatment

@@jltbk5420 yeah it's it's because you're sitting so close to the camera. It's hard to see how far away you are from the speakers, but as long as you've got three feet or more from you and the speaker and then 3 feet from the back wall minimal then the eights are a good choice. Any less than that I still go with the recommendation of going with a smaller monitor and a sub. Especially because with room acoustics the low end is the hardest to tune properly. Moving your sub around while taking room measurements can give you a massive leap in acoustic response over the inability to move your speakers.