Folkston,GA incident, I032 & L743. 

PTC outage. Train crews aren't taught to run a train anymore. Just do what the computer tells you. We're running out of skilled trades.

@sakeeler there was a signal suspension due to mow work. Everyone was running on ec1’s but the switch tender had it lined incorrectly.

@@sakeeler Yep. Same old story. Humans fail to do their job right so railroaders blame PTC, or Precision Railroading.

​​@@sakeelerOld farts like you whine about computers more than the flippin Amish

The signals were in suspension due to maintenance. There was a switch tender to line 32 up north but it was lined the wrong way.

It had nothing to do with PTC. The maintenance crew had the PTC turned off and the switches in manual mode. They didn't line the switch properly and caused the crash.

Precision training....the mow crew is to blame

@@ShawnCalay You cannot blame the mow crew. Any time you are in a manual situation that is in place the onus is on the train crew to see that the switch is lined for the route to be used as they would be at restricted speed. Part of the rule states stopping short of switches not properly lined.

Like someone else said PTC was shut off as they were working on it. Clearly there was some kind of failure on someone’s part. It’s definitely human error.

Somebody is on the hook for that, and uh, odds are, they gonna be fired, and more than likely, suit will be filed against em on behalf of the families involved.

Somebody made a big mistake,and fouled up BIG TIME.

The line going North towards Jesup is technically not double track. Trains going North on the #2 track get a restricting at the junction. This train was supposed to be proceeding from the #1 to Single main towards Jesup, occupying the entirety of the junction. That's why the rock train was stopped, and waiting. Signal suspension was in effect while MoW worked on the area. The Northbound Intermodal was supposed to be operating at Restricted Speed, not barreling through at 38 MPH. The switches were being manually operated by a Switch Tender, a qualified conductor for the subdivision. However he misaligned the switches. Essentially he jumped ahead to lining out the rock train which was going to proceed South on the #1 track. When the Northbound called and asked him if they were lined up, they didn't confirm the route or direction, they just said, are we lined up, and he said yes. You can bet there will be some new procedures in place from now on for signal suspension zones and switch tenders. Similar accidents like this occur all the time when crews become complacent and decide they are bulletproof. The facts remain that the switch tender did not properly line the switches for the Northbound train, and the Northbound Train was not operating at restricted speed, looking out for misaligned switches. Both the switch tender and the Northbound crew are at fault.

@@Ron-zi3cg There's a lot that goes into an investigation like this. Injuries were minimal, one crewman broke a leg. Not sure if that was the standing train or the moving train's crew. If the people who are at fault have a history of making bad choices and have been corrected more than a few times in the last year or so, they will get fired. But if they have not had any corrective action or warnings, then they will likely be given another chance. They will probably be decertified for a period of time which means they have to complete a training course just like a new guy would in order to return to work. And then of course, the Union will also be there to defend their jobs. But there will not be any lawsuits, and families will not be affected because every one of them got to go home to their families. If the guy who suffered a broken leg was at fault then he's going to be away on unpaid leave for a while. Even then, they may decide that the switch tender was 50% at fault and the Intermodal crew was 50% at fault and then the guy with the broken leg will only have to be 50% responsible for his losses and medical bills. But that will all get hashed out in an office somewhere in Jacksonville between lawyers and their risk management department, about 3 pay grades above anything I ever did for them.

probably because police and fire literally watched it happen, the train derailed a few blocks from a firestation that overlooks the mainline lol also, the MOW people were already out there as well, literally in front of the fire station

No, PTC was taken down and someone didn't normalize a switch. The northbound crew should have been at restricted speed.

No. PTC can be fully disengaged in non PTC territory, and when PTC is down the DS can't see switches

@@pootispiker2866 so the old technology is better then what going on on. Had battery back up with all switch’s signals and crossings.

@@mikenumbs4023 No, the old technology is not better. What аss backwards logic is that? The system was down for maintenance, not because of electricity.

Management need there big big pay!!! Billions in profits

It was a head on collision.

L743 was stopped at the signal and 32 was supposed to be lined up the A-line but clearly was not lined properly.

@@northfloridarails2136 If it was a head on collision, where is the locomotive facing the other way? All we see here is a crunched hopper.

@ri1288 look to the right. Wanted to get closer but couldn’t

@ri1288 the other engines are beyond the trees.

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@@SMichaelDeHart They could acquire your intelligence!

@thebops4180 naw...I've paid my dues and won my gold...I'm off to my well-earned reward.