@@onikasvaccine3207 my plane did the 13R approach yesterday and thought why i havent noticed these lights before then on the way home i saw them on the belt highway and realized what an oblivious idiot i had been...
This really puts it in perspective. I've driven on the Belt Parkway tons of times passing those rabbits. It would be missed approaches all night without them.
Thanks for posting! I've been reading about JFK's circle-rabbit approach since the '60's, but this is the first time I've ever seen it in action. Amongst enthusiasts, I think it's almost as well-known as Hong Kong's old Kai Tak mountainside checkboard aim-point.
I have flown it many times in the 727, 737 and A300. I always loved this approach. But we didn't have RNAV, only VOR. I had to go miss one time because it was just too foggy to see the runway.
JFK Airport was just released for the flight sim X Plane 12. The description of this add on specifically mentions that it includes the Canarsie Approach. I’m anxious to try that approach in the sim.
I've landed on 13L @ JFK a couple of different times. One time it was on an EL AL 747 coming back from Tel Aviv, and I could tell we were landing on 13L because of the specific banking pattern the plane went into as we got ready to land. The other NYC touchdown I ❤️ is runway 13/31 @ LaGuardia. Has the BEST and most unparalleled views of Manhattan while landing.
I've never in my life known anything like this existed at all, and I'm an aviation enthusiast. It's probably the only one like it of it's kind in the world.
@Tom Gulbranson the odd lights before the actual approach lights.....looks like they are on top of houses and buildings.....necessary due to the abudence of other lights I guess
@Tom Gulbranson Because I've never seen or heard of anything like this system, that's why I think it is unique. Do you know of any other airport that has flashing guidance lights that have curves in it for aircraft, a very long way from the runway?
@@sivadepilif I didn't know that airport also had a similar system, but I can certainly understand why they definitely needed it at that airport (Kai Tak) and probably more so than any other airport. That airport was insanely complex to get into, from what I've researched. It's a shame they closed that airport.
@Tom Gulbranson what are you on about? “Appear it curved but are not”? It’s a curved approach. And you were quite unnecessarily obtuse with the OP, acting as though you’re surprised that someone would find this approach unusual. Likely sitting in your mums spare room.
Stunning.... I didn't even realise JFK had such thing. Amazing! I've flewn into JFK during the day and flewn out at night, don't remember seeing this though. Maybe next time 😊🌃✈️
@Tom Gulbranson I don't think you understand. Of course, you always need to be aware of the wind, but on this approach it is vital. You are making a close in circle to line up with the runway. If you have a strong right crosswind, you have to compensate for it very aggressively and early in the turn. If you don't, you will overshoot the turn to final, and have a hard time coming back to centerline before landing. You cannot judge it by looking out the window. You have to force yourself to turn early. It feels very unnatural. I have seen pilots screw this up more times than I can count. I once had a pilot ask how I managed to time the turn perfectly and nail the crab on final so well. Know the wind!!!
@Tom Gulbranson This was a VOR approach when I was making them - we didn't have GPS in our 727s. I guess there is no reason to explain things to you because you " heard rumors to that effect at CFI school". For all others, I thought it might be a point of interest, because hand flown tight circling approaches like this are not typical in transport jet aircraft. DCA landing south would be another example. BTW, flying this approach at 160 kts. and not quite the same as flying it at 70 kts. in your CFI school.
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@@peteconrad2077 I think this guy just meant he corrected the flare by adding down pressure, I agree haven’t heard of a de-flare just seems like a correction to me.
i've done lendy6, circle the airport steep descend to Canarsie VOR then vial 13L, it happens very quick, but never can get a landing like this, great pilots
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