Fontaine: The Nation of Powercreep 

And yes: up till now the abyss hasn’t gotten more difficult in relation to this powercreep. Will be interesting to see if it does

2:21 “Ayato first on field hydro dps” Child named Childe: 🗿

The real powercreep of fontaine is Charlotte powercreeping qiqi.

The biggest change has been on the constellations. In 1.0 version's, Constellations were just okay. In 2.0 versions we started to see power creep in constellations. In 3.0 versions, characters really needed constellations to be complete. Now, characters are complete and they're constellations are massive power creep.

The advantage that Genshin has compared to other Gachas is that two characters can be the same on paper but their gameplay can be completely different. In most Gachas the gameplay is minimal and when a new character that does the same thing as another is released the only significant difference between them will be who has the highest number. In Genshin, a character can have larger numbers, but you can prefer the gameplay of another "Weaker" character. For example: - Neuvillette is definitely the best Hydro DPS in the game, but you may prefer the gameplay of Tartaglia or Ayato - Arlecchino is the best Pyro DPS in the game, but you may prefer the gameplay of Liney or Yoimiya - Wanderer and Xiao are both Anemo DPS but their gameplay is extremely different. - Etc... So as long as characters launch with varied and fun gameplays I would say that powercreep in Genshin won't be a problem anytime soon

I don't fully agree with some points. I wouldn't consider Furina straight up power creep, since she can still exist alongside similar units like Yelan without invalidating them. Also Xianyun could be considered powercreep but I think you forgot to mention that the units that benefit from her the most are older "outdated" units like Xiao and Diluc. I personally think Furina and Xianyun were healthy for the game by providing older units with a chance to shine in today's meta.

Clorinde isn't powercreeping Raiden; Clorinde is powercreeping Cyno. The true power of Raiden is ability to make the other characters less ER hungry and be able to go for more damage stats in the artefacts.

As a Raiden main, I can 100% agree that Clorinde’s design is right up my alley lol

What Genshin needs is powercreeped supports to Bennett and Xiangling.

i absolutely LOVE that genshin dont powercrepp stuff like crazy. Cuz to get a limited unit it takes a lot of effort and sometimes money, so it's nice that the character that you work so hard to get is not obsolete on the next patch and you get to use him for 1 or 2 years knowing they're still fresh and strong.

powercreep was inevitable but they seem to want to keep it under check

3 years later finally powercreep. i actually like that there isn't a lot of powercreep (if any). gotta love the balance. it's been nice knowing you all

Constellation power creep seems to be the biggest thing to me. Especially the really strong early cons on Fontaine characters. Like, Arlecchino is the current best pyro DPS, but she's still only marginally stronger than Hu Tao at c0. If you get a few cons for each though, she blows Hu Tao out of the water. So, while there is absolutely power creep in Fontaine, it seems to be more of an issue for high investment over newer players that are f2p. Even Neuvilllette, as amazing as he is, doesn't feel that "insane" with only c0 and prototype amber.

Ironically, Chiori who everyone shit on is the biggest example of power creep, it can be argued that Ayato has better off field application than Nuvi and Arlecchino pays for her damage by being squishy but in what possible situation do you use Albedo over Chiori.

I have seen runs between hu tao and arle at C0, both teams have similar clear times. I dont think its a powercreep in a sense of DPS, its more of a powercreep in terms of ease of gameplay. Low skill floor with high dps returns. Plus, fontaine characters have been gravitating towards hypercarry playstyles as of late instead of team dmg. It makes their numbers to be high asf, that doesnt account to their frontload dmg kit. I cant argue anything about chiori vs albedo cuz thats true in every sense. But if we look at childe international vs neuvi hypercarry (furina, kazuha, baizhu), both have similar clear times, at C0 ofc. This coincides with your take of off-field dps is the meta for the past 2 years or so and "support impact". Another thing, these hypercarries have a shit ton of value in their C1 or C2. Pulling their cons is like an easy investment, high return compared to old characters. I like where its going, it focuses more on hypercarry gameplay which is something we have only seen in xiao/wanderer/itto teams. TL:DR I dont think its a powercreep, its more of a different playstyle. It gravitates towards hypercarry and less team dmg. I would agree however if you are not talking about overall team dmg

As I’ve seen some people talking about it, while there is powercreep, it think it is mostly about vertical investment. The first characters had terrible constellations (hello Childe) or they were changing their gameplay. Their strongest constellations were usually c6 (hello c6 xiao). Then we got Inazuma that was releasing more strong constellations but weren’t changing the characters like crazy. Yes c2 raiden is strong but when you compare it to the first constellations of Fontaine’s characters… C1 neuvillette, c1 Arlecchino, c2 Furina, c1 Wriothesley. What changed is that what we think of c6 constellations became the c1 of new characters, it convince more people to spend. After all, c1 is more reasonable than c6. Even f2p goes more toward constellations than weapons.

Day: idek of me waiting for the direct upgrade to bennett. A pyro atk buffing team healer (maybe also a subdps but gives like half the atk of bennett) that doesn't need me to park my team in a circle. I got the scythe for arlecchino and hit a 300k vape normal attack with the rest doing 140-170k on average. She's like a literal god tier unit. Imagine how good the pyro archon and that nations big 3 are gonna be

Look mom!, even the Electro cup size has powercrept 👐🏻

charlotte is awesome if you need constant reaction to fuel something. her ability to tag characters with frost is a huge deal. it can be swirled, over and over again, navia can use it to farm crystals for her shotgun, anyone who wants to farm melt reactions loves her, anyone who needs to farm non-dendro reactions loves her. her constant frost application is just awesome for so many different teams.

I agree that Fontaine has come out with powerful 4* and 5*

9:44 "I love the design of this character" [pointing with the hand cursor]

uh, clorinde is closer to keqing and cyno than to raiden, i don't get this comparison

Whatever I’ve heard of Chloride, it sounds like she’s more of an EM based character and she works best with dendro- and doesn’t the same overload synergy like Raiden does. I think she’s gonna be a very different character than Raiden

If Natlan powercreeps Fontaine as much as Fontaine powercrept previous regions, I'll just quit.

I don't think Hoyoverse is always trying to powercreep because from what I have seen for Sigewinne's current kit, they don't try to make her as a direct powercreep to Kokomi since her current kit looks weak so far (lack of hydro application, shared buff stack instead of separate buff stack like Shenhe, bubble bounces too slow, and her burst is useless).

As a person who heavily invested in Xingqiu, Yelan, Mona and Kokomi I was not upset by Furina because her new role is quite unique, even though she definitely powercrept Yelan and Mona in many teams, and Kokomi in exploration mostly. who annoyed me the most by far is Chiori, because her entire kit is a clear powercreep to Albedo.

Inb4 sigewinne is gonna be amongst if not the weakest charas in the game :(

I don't think power creep is necessarily a bad thing. I like it when my new shiny characters end up feeling like an upgrade over what I already had. The issue comes when a game makes it a requirement that you need those new characters to clear content. But since you can clear all content in the game just fine with the oldest of characters, I don't see a problem with the stronger drops we've seen in Fontaine.

One thing that has huge meta and long-term balance implications is that all character balance is dependent on the ARTIFACT systems. Fontaine introduced two entire sidegrade "flavorizer" mechanics with HP-flux and BoL, and the reliance on new domains to juice those new characters is a real nesting doll of game management. It means that even though in raw spreadsheet terms the 'ceiling' damage output of a character may be powercreep, players will be using Gladiator sets, Shimenawa sets, Gilded sets, etc for weeks or months as they continue to be engaged in the game and using resources to reach that ceiling. It means that old characters, with no changes to the statlines or original 'strength' from their old BiS, can have a way to re-engage players time & resources for a new BiS and can even keep up with the powercreep. It means that for other new characters the design team and the playerbase both can see things as [character X but with flavor Y], which keeps the testing and community education demands low in an increasingly large character pool. It means that if they really needed/wanted to globally rebalance Fontaine's DPS lift, they could just nerf the MH/GT sets and avoid potential blowback from nerfing a character.

I feel like raiden isn't really going to get fully power crept by clorinde raiden has her energy regeneration support application that she offers so I feel she'll remain a great pick in a lot of teams and clorinde will be just hyper carry with little in the way of unity support

This trend started in Sumeru when the meta changed to dendro reactions, in Fontaine they couldn´t come up with new elemental mechanics and decided to do the simplest they could do, add more dps to on fielders.

Well they might be doing this because they may be planning to make the abyss more difficult, but I think the older characters are still 100% capable, at the very least in the overworld

My main issue is still with Neuv not having a weakness. Arle is STRONG but she has clear weaknesses and limitations and this applies to pretty much almost all characters (yes it sucks that some new chara are just a straight powercreep like Albedos but most new chara create new teams with old chara and make them stronger like Xianyun or Furina) but then we have Neuv who is super tanky with a ton of HP and infinite range while dealing sht ton of damage and not having ER problem nor is he inflexible when it comes to teammates and his early cons+weapon is so OP that he can solo most abyss as long as the enemy isn't resistance to hydro. They could have easily prevented this by limiting the speed of his water blast directional input and making his HP recovery lower than his HP consumption so he will need a healer more than most chara and he will still be strong but a bit clunky like Lyney but nah, he is can spin to win and basically cover the whole abyss like smh

People didn't understand Kazuha's kit very well when he released, his dmg buff was overlooked and underestimated because almost no no one built units with full EM back then (except for Sucrose maybe, but he's a 5* so ppl kind of didn't expect it to be his best build and called him Sucrose downgrade for a while - yeah, really). Not to mention Inazuma, Ayaka and Raiden on the horizon. So only good theory crafters saw his value back then.

I’ll still be an Itto main for life no matter what

Even if there is power creep and there is this new shinny and strong character, I still prefer playing certain characters. I still actively use my Eula to 36-star Abyss. She isn't meta and running her makes Abyss harder, but I enjoy playing her and don't see any true reason to change who I use other than ease of use/clearing. Maybe if they added more difficulties or just overall make Abyss harder then I would retire my Eula or any of my other favorites, but until then a character's strength will always be a non-issue for me since it will all be about character likeability.

I'll be sad when i can't get through the abyss with C0R0 of "old" characters anymore.

Being absolutely fair to you, Jello, I don't think most of the characters you said were powercreep are actually powercreep. Besides Neuvillette and Arlecchino, it seems most characters are just sidegrades. The feeling is better just because we have been getting less downgrades, like Dehya or Cyno. But even then we got some characters that do not feel that great, like Wriothesley and Chiori. It's just that we really got some really strong dps characters that are meta defining. But at this point, Nilou and Alhaitham were that at Sumeru.

I really wish people would actually look at the larger context of units and what they actually do/ what teams or archetypes they work well in, instead of sperging over numbers. units like Neuvilette are not power creep and have never been powercreep. people have always just had a warped perception of what units like ayato and childe do that makes them think that.

I fundamentally disagree with the definition of Powercreep in this video, but I agree with the sentiment of sticking to favorites and the fact characters have gotten stronger. The way I see Powercreep defined as is usually "outright making older characters irrelevant", which is impossible for Genshin to achieve unless they make Endgame Content that is absurdly difficult. However, Hoyo will obviously never do that - they care too much about their casual audience to make difficult endgame content. Instead, they made two very strong DPS 5 stars with amazing cons, amazing signature weapons, and QoL changes in playstyles to their competition. So again, I can agree the new characters have gotten more abilities than older ones. Even the character stories/voicelines have gotten longer with time, but I just don't think we've gotten to the point it should even be called "powercreep". What I do consider powercreep are the constellations on the 5 stars, the difference between 1.X cons and 4.X cons is insanely funny to me.

I have nothing against powercreep if it's implemented slowly over time, but obviously I would prefer more variety over straight up upgrades to older characters. Clorindes design is definitely Bloodborne inspired, she looks like a hunter with the hat and the sword + pistol combo. I'm so excited for her, I usually don't look at leaks but for her I had to look up her ascension and talent materials so I can triple crown her day 1, even if she's not strong or clunky or whatever. I'm excited to see her kit I hope she uses her pistol. Bloodborne is one of my favorite games of all time so I instandly fell in love with Clorinde after seeing her in the overture trailer lol.

Clorinde isnt going to powercreep raiden, even in the slghtest bro, she is the powercreep of keqing in quicken teams that's all

I think,powercreeping is necessary. No one's gonna pull for a character that is equal or worse than the ones they already have. Their sales would plummet if they keep releasing subpar characters. Just looking at the sales of the recent banners proved this. Best part about Fontaine is it actually gave us good on field DPS characters even as an f2P. Before Fontaine,most of the DPS characters performed as a DPS because of their constellations and good 5 star weapons.Now, Neuvillette , Arlecchino,Navia are actually good characters at C0 without their signature.Its true that their constellations are totally insane compared to ones we had before in other characters but how many players actually have constellations tbh?very few people can actually afford to pull for cons. Only one thing hoyo should remember,not to make characters like Bennett,xiangling,sucrose,kuki,xingqiu irrelevant.These are the characters that are keeping the f2p player base alive.

You mean Keqing lovers cuz her design is clearly inspired by Her

I think it’s interesting that all the stronger dps units made a return to the shield meta.

what is the point of constantly releasing power creepers, raiden is a whole ass archon and if they do release more power creepers, it'll just make the previous characters useless in game and lore wise since how are you going to have one character be presumed incredibly strong and yet they get power creeped in the next nation by a "nobody"

What people didn't realized yet is the fact that this is totally intentional and related with the Chronicled Wish Banner. They want to throw the old characters there in favor of having window to rotate the new characters. So they powercreep everything to make the new ones more attractive.

17:10 this right here is the actual situation. Its less powercreeping and more that the niches and support are mostly already set up so now they can design more dedicated premium DPS'es for banners. Its been Support Impact because theyre building up the rosters of supports that players would have so that their DPS banners will be more rewarding for those who already has the necessary support character. Sumeru didnt feel much like powercreep because it serves to COMPLETE the landscape, Dendro was the final piece, so they were trying to catch up to other elemental characters in terms of role and niches. But now with Fontaine, its hydro nation, not a new element anymore and all the elemental supports niche are already filled during inazuma's duration (Thoma with burgeon and Kuki with hyperbloom) they can finally focus on releasing more DPS'es. this video discusses very superficial outlook clouded by recency bias but the real situation is this, most of the supports are already set up, the final elemental piece has been put, now we can have the big boys in. I feel like Natlan will have some new bs like with Fontaine because it suffers from the same problem of not being a new element unlike with Sumeru, and most of the supports are already released (still no off field hydro shielder : [ ) so i'd guess another "Natlan is the Nation of Powercreep" video next year : D

I’m still pulling kokomi.

You mention HSR but not HI3. That game had egregious amounts of power creep. Try clearing abyss with Miko Sakura, hah. Good luck with that. I won't mind this level, so long as I can clear abyss with older units. I have been clearing Abyss with Althaitham hyperbloom since his release.

"All throughout Mondstadt to Sumeru, we basically got a horizontal expansion of the character roster until Fontaine where the powercreep begins with Neuvillette" - I disagree a bit. My explanations below: Mondstadt & Liyue 1.0 to 2.0: We started with the original standard banner characters with 5*s in Qiqi, Diluc, Keqing, Mona and Jean and with Venti, Klee and Albedo as banner characters. Then they released Xiao, Ganyu and Hu Tao. For a long time, these three were considered the meta of DPS, outperforming everyone else. I think this can be considered powercreep. For a good minute, Ganyu freeze teams 'Morgana' and Hu Tao were dominating abyss. Inazuma 2.0 to 3.0: Kazuha, Yelan, Ayaka, Raiden and Shenhe I think were the more notable characters that released here. I remember during this period, a lot of freeze teams used Ayaka alongside Ganyu and with Prototype Amber Mona as a healer, until Shenhe's release completely replacing Ganyu. Not sure if you include overworld traversal into the equation, but if you do, Yelan's skill is still meta to this day. Sumeru 3.0 to 4.0: I'd argue we had reverse powercreep instead throughout this time. The introduction of dendro as an element elevated a lot of mid characters to amazing and amazing characters to SSSSSR+, especially with reactions such as hyperbloom having a really high floor while severely downgrading the need for optimized 1:2 crit substats. Again if you include overworld traversal, then Wanderer is insane and probably the best we got so far and Nahida's "gather" utility isn't anything to scoff at either. Fontaine presently: Arlecchino and Hu Tao are pretty even according to some TC like Zajef, but it does indeed feel like Neuvillette is powercreep in more ways than one. Furina also crept Kokomi in nearly every way and is the strongest C6 character we have so far. She also walks on water in a way Koko could never. I think most of the powercreep so far has come in the form of constellations, such as Arle and Hu Tao being nearly even at C0, but Arle pulling drastically ahead with constellations. Constellations have been mid for the most part (with a few exceptions of course, but even then most of the ones past C2 were pretty mid) until Fontaine. I don't think constellation powercreep is nearly as much of an issue as long as the "base C0 arena" is relatively even because that is what Hoyo is balancing everything around. I would struggle really hard to name another game or gacha that handles powercreep as well as Genshin has thus far, so overall I'm really satisfied.

I like the fact that Arle is very strong because she has a catch she can't be healed which mean you intentionally lower her potential damage with shielders or being really good at the game in contrast, I don't like the fact that Nuvi is really strong because there's no real restriction for him, and he is easy to play, this kind of power creep I don't like, and I think it's a bad design

I don’t think they power creep anyone. They just creating DPSs that really doing damage and not just relying on reactions or driver of powerful off field DPS. They’re doing this so that people will still pull for upcoming characters than using the same old DPS/driver.

I got Raiden for my Eula team and I'm trembling with fear of what Cloride will be capable of

Power creep❌ Lore accurate ✅

Jello: "genshin impact has often been praised" enviosity: "i should be the only mf being praised"

Natlan bouta powercreep the powercreep 💀.

For the longest time I've never understood why people call raiden a DPS because the one reason that she's considered a DPS isn't a good enough reason to label her just a "DPS" when she does more than that and because of that I doubt she can be powercrept at what she can do as a whole Comparing clorinde which can be possibly considered a *Pure Onfield Electro DPS* if she is one she'll most likely be one that adds nothing to the team so she'll most likely be compared to keqing and cyno as a Onfield Electro DPS Raiden is unique enough to be considered more than just a DPS since her rolls in teams are different from the other Onfield Electro DPS units

I honestly doubt chlorinde will be better than raiden

Tbh I needed to hear this bc I kinda felt bad for skipping Arle in favour of a character I've been wanting for nearly a year (Alhaitham). I'm going to wait for father's rerun to see if i really want her or if it's just the hype. And who knows, maybe at that time Natlan will already introduced a new character I'd prefer over her

Except for neuvilette i actually dissagree with this opinion tbh. At c0 certainly not liney navia wrio arle at c0 aren’t better than the past characters. Ofc considering cons powercreep is a real thing c1 c2 of the newer units are busted

I mean it's up to you to upgrade your Raiden to c2 avoid power creep

“Get the new characters when they’re your favorites” FR!!! I love Koko sooo much- and yeah i know sigewinne is probably just going to be her but better- but i dont careeee- sigewinne will definitely have more reruns after her first so im gonna keep saving for kokomi no matter what🙏 plus i’d like to know sigewinne as a character more before i dump 180 wishes on her lol

baizhu also buffs all dendro reactions

tbh i higly doubt clorinde could powercreep raiden, beceause just one fact. clorinde will be just probably a dps l, while raiden not only is a dps but a sub dps,eneable and support at the same time.

Honestly, looking at the way Genshin is designed I think any power creep will be temporary because they have a built in safety with an A7 ascension talent when they raise the level cap to 100 and skill cap to 15. I mean it would fit the pattern that they have used, it would be silly not to use it to balance the characters back out. They can resolve any issues with the characters, create new metas, and get sales on old characters with one single change. Pretty sure it's been the plan all along.

Such an interesting take I’m gag, I fell in love with Clorinde ever since the Fontaine trailer dropped (along with Furina and Neuvi which I already have iconic) so yup I’m saving for her, I even skipped arle and she’s sickening, even tho with all these powerful chars, the abyss is yet to be more difficult so looking forward for hoyo to do sumn, it will be interesting to see!

i have a c3 r1 raiden and im 100 percent sure that a c0 r1 clorinde will not be anywhere near close that so im not gonna be pulling for her

I mean technically Raiden is a very different playstyle than Clorinde since Clorindes gonna be the 3rd 5* electro DPS after Yae and Cyno and shes has far different playstyles than these two.

The Difference between Genshin and Star Rail is that you can pretty much clear any Genshin content with any well built character and 1 to 2 supports, the content is very much varied and you always have things to do ingame. As for Star Rail, I would argue that the meta is much more rigid and strict. And even if Honkai Star Rail has more characters in one year than Genshin in the same time span, It's still less varied in terms of team builds.

GOOD. The power creep makes it easier for me to decide whether the new character is worth pulling for or not.

Just got Arlecchino yesterday on 81 pulls on Hard Pity, i only started Genshin a week ago just because of Arlecchino, so i'm happy, and yeah i also got Primordial Jade Winged-Spear for her, so it was Fate 🔥 Totally F2P by the way

You have a point with the 5*s, but Im gonna strongly disagree as a low spend player with the 4* argument. Every region apart from Mondstadt has 4*s that require high constellations to be truly useful. No 4* has managed to powercreep Bennet/Sucrose/Fischl/Xingqiu/Xiangling. Theyre still at the core of almost every viable team. Theyre still broken.

Clorindes damage actually is the exact same a c0 to c2 for raiden😂 if you already have raiden she's literally a easy skip

I can't hear the word "praised" without bursting out in laughter lol

11:52 SHE SAID TO KEEP QUIET 😭😭😭

*Looks at the "Dreams"* ... Nope: Clorinde isn't powercreeping Raiden. Go home, Jello: you're drunk. *[**13:19**]* Raiden enables entire teams and rotations with her Energy generation, so it isn't _cope_ to say that she isn't getting powercrept even if a new unit does bigger Damage Per Screenshot than her, as her teams will _certainly_ rotate and play better.

they seem to like making the archon the most poweful character of their element at the time of release which makes me wonder how theyre going to make the pyro archon better than bennett, xiangling, and arlecchino lol

The fact that Nevi power creep everyone and yet the owned rate is only 50% (from the abyss usage chart) proves player don't always pull for power.

1 million% pulling Chlorinde. Loved the design since day 1. And she clearly is going to have a high power level

2:49 Inazuma (Sumeru) ^^

I would argue it really is only the past 2 units of Chiori and Arlecchino that have seriously expressed straight powercreep, considering they have direct role overlaps with previous characters not just in role identity, but also team identity. They are even functionally similar in gameplay to their predecessors Albedo and Hu Tao. Like if I were to be a bit cynical, Chiori and Arlecchino kind of felt like "we're running low on ideas, let's do what worked in the past and make it hit harder", their gameplay designs feel very recycled whereas a lot of the other units (even Neuvillette) introduced their own unique brand of gameplay that we haven't really experienced before in Genshin. So I think it's not so much Fontaine as a whole, but really just 4.5 and 4.6. Here's to hoping Clorinde doesn't straight copy what Raiden or Cyno does, or Sigewinne copying Koko, because then we would have a serious trend with direct powercreep lol.

Wriothesley helped me a lot to continue playing when I was low AR since I was bad at gaming I always got traveler kxlled, and when I got Wrio I would rarely die as he self-heals. I think he is such a good character for beginners

Fontaine: The Nation of Injustice :')

Poor childe doesn't even get any recognition 🥲

Warning for those who are against "dreams" there's mention of beta content below: As of now in the beta, Clorinde is a side-grade to Raiden in terms of damage and doesn't have the IR that Raiden does or the flexibility of off-field hyperbloom driver or the energy regeneration and burst-buffing that Raiden brings as well. Clorinde will be easier to build because she gives herself a lot of crit rate through ascension and her passive. There's a decent possibility she becomes stronger through the beta due to this, but right now she's a bit of an overall downgrade. Sigewinne is also just straight up mid at this point too.

What I like about genshin is that the few instances of power creep are all justified by either the game mechanics themselves or lore. Hu Tao power crept diluc, but that was to be expected, since diluc is standard and Hu Tao is limited. Arlecchino power crept other pyro units, but that's to be expected, since she is the 4th harbinger. Neuvillette power crept other hydro units, but he is literally the hydro sovereign. Imagine if the hydro dragon did comparable damage to the 11th harbinger or an inazuman diplomat. As for navia, she is amazing. But I don't consider her a power creep and a itto. I have both, and Itto is fantastic for sustained dps, while navia shines in front loaded dmg. Furina kinda power crept yelan, but she got the archon treatment so that's ok. Also, yelan still has situations where you might prefer her (like healerless teams or teams with fast NA spammers). As for clorinde, even if she does more dmg than Raiden I won't consider it a pwlower creep, since Raiden brings much much more to the table: perfect interruption resistence, energy recharge regeneration, teamwide burst buff, off field electro via elemental skill, huge frontloaded nuke (burst). Also, we will get a 5 stars xiangling/Bennet sooner or later, and Raiden National will become even stronger.

Good insight! Thanks!

Finally ive been waiting

You are missing a big part of the powercreep puzzle: they cut their teeth and then mastered powercreep in Honkai Impact. They know what they are doing.

My theory is that Dendro was overtuned and Hoyo realized that their DPS lose pull value if they aren't stronger than baseline hyperbloom, that forced them to raise the ceiling of their DPS characters, much as it might pain them. As for HSR it's true that some characters can be seen as straight up powercreep, like Sparkle and maybe Acheron but so far there aren't that many instances of it, and they are actually broadening the amount of viable team types mostly. DoT, Follow up and Break teams are becoming more competetive with pure hypercarries, well at least until Acheron lol. It feels more like powercreep because difficulty creep is pretty huge in HSR. To me anyway MoC used to be easier than abyss, but that hasn't been the case since 2.0. I'm still full starring both but they keep adding very cringe enemies in MoC (and turbulence buffs) that punish people who don't pull every character. This is to some degree even more blatant in Pure Fiction.

i like to think that they try (at least i hope they do) to keep the power level of characters true to their region’s/status attributes. I feel like the reason that Fontaine characters are so strong is because the region itself is far more advanced than the rest of Teyvat. Like how sumeru characters tend to have more intricate and niche kits due to being influenced by knowledge, or inazuma having a lot of dedicated dps characters due to being influenced by a strong and powerful archon. i just find it cool how they subtlety make the characters intertwine with their region. Even status-wise, like the Fatui or archons, they have very different playstyles that still coordinate with both their status and region together. it’s a very nice touch imo. (of course, do feel free to combat this bc i could just be coping lmao) I feel like Natlan characters will still fit this narrative due to it being the nation of war. Characters will be intense and very powerful due to having to fend for their lives. Super excited for it 😊😊

Robin isn't powercreeping ruan mei

huohuo did not powercreep luocha anywhere. (clear times are faster on Luo on avg) she is a sidegrade at most. Avent pc-ed at most Gepard. Ruan Mei is an entirely different kind of support than the others we have. Sparkle also did not pc her at all. they are once again entirely different. and Robin won't powercreep RM at all, RM gives way different buffs.

I half agree with Fontaine seems to powercreep what we have before. Yes, there's powercreep in term of offensive power. However, I don't think it's a complete upgrade in C0 at least. Imo, Arlecchino at C0 doesn't powercreep Hu Tao in term of power ceiling. I think Hu Tao's best offensive team has higher power ceiling than Arlecchino's teams. However, What Arlecchino has over Hu Tao at C0 is flexibility (bc she can play well in the teams outside of vape too) and ease of usage (NA spamming is way easier than jump/dash cancel.) The real powercreep we have is in constellations. In fact, this kind of powercreep started since Inazuma patches, iirc. Like Raiden's power spike is around C2-C3, while most of older characters requires C6.(Hu Tao C1 is an exception.). Many characters in Sumeru also have high power spike in C2. Then, Fontaine make many characters have their own constellations being mostly a steadily high jump and C6 make their the whole other level.

Honestly the abyss is pretty much always easy enough most of the time to the point where it doesnt really matter if something has been “powercrept” or not, I really do wonder if the dreams of 4.7 will lead us to a point where certain characters will be basically required to clear, tho I heavily doubt it

Are we forgeting the fact that neuvillete and arlechino are the strongest canon characters that we are able to play rn? It does make sense for them to be stronger. As for the other "powercreep" characters, theyre either just buffed versions of mediocre characters (like Chiori and Navia), making them above average or good, or either just supports who bring something new to the table (like Xianyun and Furina), that might or might not be stronger in certain teams

From waht I've felt. c0 Arlecchino in a shield less team is noticeably stronger than Hu tao at c0. Also, I've found playing Arlecchino without a shield to be A LOT easier than I first thought. So, yeah. When both played optimally at c0, I do feel like Arlecchino takes the cake, but with a shield Arlecchino feels to deal about the same if not slightly less than Hu tao. Obviousty with cons poor Hu tao is left in the dust. So basically, with massive skill issue, Hutao -> Arle at c0 With a marginal skill issue, Hutao = Arle at c0 With no skill issue, Arle ->>> Hutao at c0

One of the best videos breaking down powercreep, thank you mr jello :)

I like the slower pace of powercreep in Genshin and keeping majority of it in constellations only. HSR is going too fast and am afraid they’d run out of steam for the train sooner.