Foolish to build FACTORIES under the FREEWAY? (It's LEGAL in California!)

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This quirky California law encourages development underneath freeways. And it makes millions! But after the big freeway fire in November, how safe is this practice?
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"Contracts: Hollywood Freeway Construction Under Way is Extensive and Varied"
California Highways and Public Works
May-June 1951, p.18
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"Loop Progress: L.A. Freeway Completions Will Bring Traffic Relief"
California Highways and Public Works
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"District VII: Freeway Completions, Current Construction Add Up to Encouraging Progress Picture"
California Highways and Public Works
March-April 1961, pp.11, 16-17
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"Airspace: State Groups Plan for Over and Under Freeway Use"
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"Design"
California Highways and Public Works
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"'Airspace' Construction Scored"
Hartford Courant, 9 May 1969
"Pact Made to Develop Space Under Freeway"
Valley News, 2 May 1974
"Nugget Recieves Special Recognition for Its Unique Multiple Use of Freeway Airspace"
Lassen Advocate, 12 Jun 1974
"Demand Exceeds Supply for Caltrans Airspace Buildings"
The Los Angeles Times, 26 Mar 1978
"State Wants Freeway Airspace"
The Sacramento Bee, 12 Jan. 1979, p.AA7
"Cash Return for State: Caltrans Expands Freeway Airspace Leasing Program"
The Los Angeles Times, 24 Feb 1985
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"'L.A. Gateway' Proposal Spurs Promise of Billions, Opposition"
The Los Angeles Times, 25 Dec. 1985
"State Seeking More Creative Uses for Freeway Airspace"
The Los Angeles Times, 30 Aug. 1987
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"The Walgreens atop the I-80 Freeway"
Reno Gazette Journal, 15 May 2016, p.6D
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"Airspace Memo," Press Release
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22 Nov. 2023, Appendix
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California Streets and Highways Code, Section 104.12
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Time sections:
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Introduction (0:00)
Airspace Lease (1:25)
Lease Revenue (2:14)
Property Taxes (3:33)
Economic Development (4:06)
Current Leases and Rules (4:50)
Harbor Freeway (6:46)
Sacramento Resolution (8:15)
A Failure? (8:42)

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@irdmoose 6 месяцев назад

That Walgreens over the freeway is weird to park in and shop in. If you stand still for a few seconds, you can feel the floor moving constantly. Same in the parking lot. In fact, they just resurfaced the whole parking lot because the concrete keeps cracking and falling apart. This summer, there were several holes that I could have easily gotten my foot stuck in down a couple of inches, and I used to wear size 12's.

@RoadGuyRob 6 месяцев назад

I got sunburned on the Golden Gate Bridge once, and stopped there to buy some aloe vera. Felt like a transportation rite of passage.

@Altair00rion 6 месяцев назад

@onehandwashestheotherlost their feet to a different pot hole.

@dmo848 6 месяцев назад

That sounds scary

@santosdr2 6 месяцев назад

they grew, Now he has size 24 they double every twenty two years.@onehandwashestheother

@Nevoexpo 6 месяцев назад

Go back with video footage, step inside one of those holes. Fall. Make sure its recorded and find yourself an injury lawyer. You will win the case, it may be easy or hard but in the end, you will get a nice payday. If enough people do that, they will have to make changes there to address it because it has to do with money.

@ghost307 6 месяцев назад

They don't allow storing cars under the viaduct but do allow parking cars under the viaduct? Sounds like a distinction without a difference.

@justins8802 6 месяцев назад

Well I think the main difference is that recently operated parked cars are far more likely to catch fire than long-term storage cars. Yes, that makes it even dumber.

@fulconandroadcone9488 6 месяцев назад

so how about long term parking?

@itwasaliens 6 месяцев назад

Money.

@travcollier 6 месяцев назад

Parking tends to be much better monitored than storage. So, sort of the same reason the FAA allows folks to take lithium batteries in carry-on luggage, but putting them in checked bags is a big no-no.

@TDPEquinox 6 месяцев назад

@@justins8802 Yes, but long term storage cars are much more likely to be a target of arson. Still stupid but I can at least see the logic. We're not so much worried about the cars setting themselves on fire, that very rarely happens-- cars being set on fire by someone else tho? All the time.

@AaronTheHarris 6 месяцев назад

Seeing the kind of junk being stored under the freeway kinda highlights how junky urban freeways are to begin with.

@gabriell.4440 6 месяцев назад

If Beverly Hills didn't want an urban freeway, what does that say about the effects of these highways in other parts of town without the money for lawyers?

@DavidM2002 6 месяцев назад

Go to a city like London where there are a lot of overpasses for trains ( no, not the underground trains ). Under those overpasses are everything you can imagine. One of our favourite pubs there is under an overpass. It can be very valuable real estate and should be used as such.

@RoadGuyRob 6 месяцев назад

A big difference is that people exiting a train are on foot, so it makes sense to have a lot of shopping within foot distance. People exiting a freeway are in their car, and they tend to drive away.

@DavidM2002 6 месяцев назад

@@RoadGuyRob I should have been more clear. The merchants under the overpasses in London are not there for the train or car passengers; they are there to service neighbourhood locals on foot.

@lazerrhino 5 месяцев назад

@@DavidM2002that makes sense, from what I know you can only really buy airspace in Tokyo since the actual land value there is ludicrous.

@baddriversofnorthcentralma1594 6 месяцев назад

I personally, don't mind the parking lot aspect of this type of thing. You already have a fairly large piece of property that isn't being used for anything useful. Now instead of taking a large parcel of land down the block and using that to create a massive parking lot, wasting space that could be used for development, using the land underneath the highway is quite a good idea.

@ShortArmOfGod 6 месяцев назад

Just don't allow battery powered cars to park there.

@AHomelessDorito 6 месяцев назад

Except most land owners use it to “park long term” basically making legal junk yards under the freeways. The law needs clarification.

@andredeketeleastutecomplex 6 месяцев назад

It sucks!

@dlazo32696 6 месяцев назад

@@ShortArmOfGodDon’t allow Internal Combustion Engine cars there.

@sboinkthelegday3892 6 месяцев назад

Clarify it the same way Nagasaki was cleared out. Gate Tower Building works fine, it just doesn't have Americans in it. Read a bit into how these American "freeways" were originally built and why all over the place. Seeing how a colony like Hawaii was turned into the tourist hellhole it is after the Pearl Harbor, I'm sure Iraq could help you with some "urban planning"of your own. Just move any big shots out of the way first, so they can rent the space out later, like Hirohito did all the way until 1989. Civlians can eat dirt for the cause.

@Cyrus992 6 месяцев назад

Perhaps we can build commercial underneath a rail line like in Japan

@PrograError 6 месяцев назад

Except most of the rail seems to be At-grade... and HSR ain't got plans for above ground last I checked.

@worawatli8952 6 месяцев назад

@@PrograError There's other options, like underground mall above underground rail lines, underground mall under roads, seen that in Taiwan, land value must be very high, so it make sense to built.

@ripem1417 6 месяцев назад

⁠@@worawatli8952Above ground malls are already economically unviable.

@JourneysADRIFT 6 месяцев назад

In Japan they would often use these spaces for community wellness and sport parks such as soccer, tennis, & basketball courts, fully netted.

@tabacum2 6 месяцев назад

Have you covered how Mexico City uses the space under overpasses? They built out retail space and rented it out, combined with parks, cafes etc. Lately they’ve also been adding vertical gardens to the support posts. Transforms a sketchy area into something desirable. Even if the city breaks even on rent it’s a net positive for the community.

@RoadGuyRob 6 месяцев назад

Not yet. But that's a great idea that they do! Any examples I should check out on Google maps?

@tabacum2 6 месяцев назад

@@RoadGuyRob You can search for “bajo puente” or the restaurant El Huequito Juan Escutia. Located in the La Condesa neighborhood. I have only driven past it myself, but looks like a big improvement to the trash and homeless camps. Also check out Seattle’s I-5 Colonnade park with dirt bike trails and an off-leash dog park. So nice when it is raining in Seattle!

@GirtonOramsay 6 месяцев назад

@@RoadGuyRoba California example could be the park under i5 bridges in Barrio Logan neighborhood in San Diego with painted murals

@travcollier 6 месяцев назад

Seems like a density and mixed / more flexible land use thing. Strong Towns would likely approve.

@mimica2156 5 месяцев назад

I think shoddy contract work led to a collapse a few years ago in Mexico city. It was destructive.

@hobog 6 месяцев назад

Actually good if the viaduct is seismically safe. In places less car-addicted, there are cafes under railway arches, apartments under rail viaducts in Japan (which are actually quiet inside)

@miles5600 6 месяцев назад

That’s different. This trash also doesn’t allow the city to be able to check the concrete’s condition.

@miles5600 6 месяцев назад

Also you don’t need freeway bridges if you build the freeway right, don’t build them straight through the city and you’ll be able to out the freeway on ground level. The netherlands and many other countries have this.

@steemlenn8797 6 месяцев назад

My first thought was about those tiny shops under the railways in Tokyo too.

@shawnpitman876 6 месяцев назад

I see you don't understand the difference between a cafe and a FACTORY.

@shawnpitman876 6 месяцев назад

@@steemlenn8797 Are those factories? No? Then it's nowhere near the same and you need to shush.

@IstasPumaNevada 6 месяцев назад

I still feel that if the city is making money off increasing the risk to the infrastructure, they shouldn't get state or federal funds to help when that extra risk causes incidents like big fires weakening or collapsing the bridges. Or perhaps instead they should be required by law to set aside a portion of the money they're making for a rapid-response emergency repair fund.

@douglasgroff7648 6 месяцев назад

What a novel idea. However, that kind of flies in the face of how California operates. Your problem is YOUR problem, but my problem is also YOUR problem.

@selanryn5849 6 месяцев назад

The city isn't leasing the land, the state DOT is.

@foogod4237 6 месяцев назад

Contrary to what's implied in the video, this isn't all only about money. Land space in many of these areas is a very limited resource, and there is a lot of really valuable and potentially beneficial (for everyone) land under these freeways that would basically just be completely wasted otherwise. Not using these areas at all would result in increased property costs for everyone else in the area (making it harder for things like small businesses to stay in the area), and a lot more city sprawl, which also leads to increased traffic and congestion, etc, etc. There actually are a number of entirely legitimate reasons why maximizing the useful space in the heart of the city is a valuable thing, for everyone. And the vast majority of the uses it's put to _do not actually increase the risk to infrastructure significantly at all._ Note also that a large portion of the money they make off of leasing the airspace actually _does_ go directly into infrastructure maintenance funds (including emergency funds), so they're basically _already doing exactly what you're suggesting_ anyway. This is a situation where the rules may need to be tweaked somewhat, and possibly better enforcement applied, but the basic concept and use of the funds is really not actually the problem here, or a bad thing.

@RoadGuyRob 6 месяцев назад

The state makes the money (not the city), FYI. The airspace leases do have FHWA (Federal Highway Administration) permission since 1961. But the question of liability is valid.

@davestir5743 6 месяцев назад

How many huge fires have there been under the highways in CA? That have caused structural damage, requiring the highway to be shutdown for days, weeks, or months? It's the same as anything else in the world. If you rent a house and then burn it down due to your neglect, you are responsible for the damages, it is your responsibility to make sure things like a fire do not happen. So the risk of leasing the land vs any damage to the structure from neglect is very limited (who is going to spend millions on a factory to let it burn down?) and a money generator for the state for space that would otherwise become homeless encampments. I would say 90% of the fires in the Bay area are around and under our highways caused by homeless people living there....thus I would rather see businesses there than homeless encampments along the drive. And I believe the fire was an act of Arson for I10, which could happen regardless of the liability coverage for the highway infrastructure. Basically why not make money on that land when the liability of damage is so miniscule? Been in CA for 50+ years, and this is one of the rare times the highway infrastructure has been damaged so badly that they needed to close the highway, most the other time it is highways taken out by forest fires, mudslides, earthquakes, etc. If the state collects the lease money, then they do need to pay to get it fixed and they do have a slush fund put aside or things like this, its called insurance. Have worked for the government, there are things in place to cover expenses when things like this happens....not sure why everyone wants to believe people who claim there aren't.

@thomashendricks9774 6 месяцев назад

In Syracuse NY, they recently moved Route 690 to grade, removing the long bridge sections. They were mostly only a few feet off the ground, so no air space opportunities but they had to maintain these long sections like bridges and were literally only a few feet off the ground.

@ryan225360 6 месяцев назад

Really? Where on the route?

@thomashendricks9774 6 месяцев назад

@@ryan225360 On the eastern part near 481. Between Teal and the 481 connection.

@TheSkyGuy77 6 месяцев назад

So, you mean to tell me that when I place industries under elevated highways in Cities Skylines, its already been done in real life?!? 😂😂

@RoadGuyRob 6 месяцев назад

Yes! 👍

@pinakinkale 6 месяцев назад

A quick correction rob, the post office existed BEFORE 290 was built. The post office was built when they were planning on building the expressway, so that area was intentionally kept open for the future freeway: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Chicago_Main_Post_Office

@DonnaChamberson 6 месяцев назад

Thank you and Jesus bless 🙏

@douglasboyle6544 6 месяцев назад

That's pretty neat

@RoadGuyRob 6 месяцев назад

You are absolutely correct. Thanks for the correction.

@roadtrip-chris 6 месяцев назад

Thank you Road Guy Rob. Because of your videos, I've learned so much about road engineering and road safety. Please don't stop making these videos, they're a great educational asset!

@RoadGuyRob 6 месяцев назад

I'm so glad to hear that chris! Thank you

@BNHC0 6 месяцев назад

Problem isnt really the buildings, its the fact the roads cut right through vauable land and there's nowhere else to put them

@shawndintheoc 6 месяцев назад

As a local truck driver here in Southern California it’s great to see someone reporting on our freeway system. Especially the downtown I 10 Good work Rob.

@ooglek 6 месяцев назад

CalTrans should install fire suppression systems under the freeway where they lease. Raise rates a bit to cover the cost of install and maintenance. Require all lessees to have insurance in case the fire suppression system goes off and damages their stuff. Or if they lease the land below a freeway, additional fire protection coatings on all of the underside of those locations.

@woodchuck003 6 месяцев назад

Or perhaps the state can do something about the people who started the fire.

@RoadGuyRob 6 месяцев назад

Maybe require much higher insurance limits for leasees.

@coreyhipps7483 6 месяцев назад

I've spent time in both Paris and Tokyo. In both they make fairly intensive use of space above freeways and rail infrastructure and below. As someone who walks around those cities these then become places to interact with and are on a human scale. For example, in the US as a pedestrian crossing under a freeway or wide railway is to pass by a lot of blank infrastructure. In Tokyo there were shops and restaurants.

@popenieafantome9527 6 месяцев назад

Plenty of places here in the US you are simply not meant to walk, but drive because “everyone has a car” and build around that assumption. One place near me had train tracks that got removed to build something else, but in the process they removed the sidewalk too. Its by a fenced park too so you would have to walk all the way around the park to reach bus stop at end of removed sidewalk. During a doctor visit, i missed my bus stop by a stop so i decided to just walk back. It was very desolate pedestrian-wise and zero connection to anything you could walk to until you reach the hospital. A more recent (or more accurately pre-existing problem worsening) problem with walking around here is the homeless. Both directly and indirectly. Indirectly they affect walking/buses because the city despises them but won’t fix it since its too costly. So, they do their best to make their life as miserable as they can by removing cover from the elements like bus stop shade, removing benches for the bus stops, and overall making it miserable to use bus transportation indirectly. Directly, the homeless seem to have raised their standard of living. Meaning rather than finding them laying around in random places, they now have tents or build sheds to live in out of trash they collect. Large enough structures to force you walk off the sidewalk in some places with high car traffic. They tend to group up which worsens the problem since you might have 100m of these structures adjacent to each other. Even a single of them can block off sidewalks if their committed to it. Seen one drag 6 shopping carts filled to the brim with trash. After 2 weeks they left but all the trash remained, no longer contained to the shopping carts but scattered across the street that again forces you off the side walk because their not always small items but pieces of wood, sofas, mattresses, and torn bags with junk.

@circleinforthecube5170 5 месяцев назад

@@popenieafantome9527 hopefully sprawl is repaired. shit its even possible to repair sprawl while preserving most preexisting buildings and still increase the density, malls/office parks especially are pieces of architecture that can be protected (office parks look a lot better than the exteriors of malls though)

@poochyenarulez 6 месяцев назад

Turning empty land into productive land is good though. Kinda weird to imply making money is bad

@jackcarver1629 6 месяцев назад

I think this video wasn't bashing the use of highway airspace but more about the misuse of that space. The pallets stacks being a key example of what not to use the space for.

@RoadGuyRob 6 месяцев назад

Unfortunately, I've learned that if I don't make the title sound controversial I'll only have 10% the viewers. The title is just a trick to get people into the longer video

@poochyenarulez 6 месяцев назад

@@RoadGuyRob I understand but the first half of the video it kinda implied cities have been crazy to be building things under freeways. It's not just the title

@raffriff42 Месяц назад

@@RoadGuyRob Wow, that’s a huge difference. Can’t blame ya then. Fortunately, I already knew they weren’t foolish, thanks to Betteridge's Law Of Headlines ("Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no.")

@EnjoyFirefighting 6 месяцев назад

technically space right next to the freeway can often be used for facilities and industries you either don't want to have elsewhere in the city and its neighborhoods, or which you want to have close to the highway for shorter travel distances across the city (e.g. for trucks). Like bus terminals, waste power plants, water treatment facilities, towing and recovery services, cargo distribution centers, hospitals, fire / ems / police stations. Depending on the layout of the freeway it can be next, between, under or above it ...

@issholland 6 месяцев назад

Don't forget sex stores!

@eaglescout1984 6 месяцев назад

I commented something similar on your previous I-10 fire video, but I like what the city of Charleston, WV did. They built a skate park under the viaduct that runs through the west side of town. It provides recreation to locals, encourages the community to take care of the space, and gives a good industrial backdrop for those hardcore skating videos.

@alohadave 6 месяцев назад

There's a skate park like that in Boston as well.

@kalon2414 6 месяцев назад

New Road Guy Rob at 3am?? Gotta watch immediately

@razorswc 6 месяцев назад

Very much so

@Croz89 6 месяцев назад

In my city there's a whole hipstery street food market/boutique shopping complex under the A57(M) viaduct (known as Mancuinuan Way). I've been there a few times, it's a bit of a noisy place to eat!

@grelymolycremp7838 6 месяцев назад

As someone who commutes via the 110 everyday, it really is one hell of an ugly freeway. It feels dystopian when you take the in-streets parallel to it. I would love to see some development happen that isn't just junkyards, storage lots, or rundown concrete buildings. Maybe add some greenery.

@socoamarettojustine 6 месяцев назад

I love your channel Rob! Thank you for making high quality, informative, and advertisement-free videos!!

@JerseyTom 6 месяцев назад

lol that AI upscale @ 2:57 is something

@RoadGuyRob 6 месяцев назад

Either it looks like a grainy mess or it looks like an AI mess. LOL

@feliciagrady7220 6 месяцев назад

Another well-produced, informative, and entertaining video. Thanks, Road Guy Rob!

@ejrich7016 6 месяцев назад

I love your videos. I wish you would make them more often!

@ligmuhnugs 6 месяцев назад

There's a viaduct in my city with the bus station and a parking lot built underneath of it. The area feels full and well used. On the other side of town is an i75 bridge with rail and a mud lot underneath.

@JerEditz 6 месяцев назад

hmmm, we should build buildings over this freeway yes... other buildings: But I wanna see LA traffic! okay fare enough... **about 60 years later**

@trevormorrison9784 6 месяцев назад

Great videos Rob. Happy holidays and a great 2024 to you.🚙

@4.30gangCorpofficial 6 месяцев назад

I really like your Cali videos.They are point on.Congrats🎉🎉

@Awesome_Aasim 6 месяцев назад

One of the most famous examples of airspace rights is the Hanshin Expressway in Japan; one of its exits runs straight through the Gate Tower building. Well, technically the airspace rights are being leased to the Hanshin Expressway, not the other way around. At least what I heard.

@RoadGuyRob 6 месяцев назад

That's amazing! I hope I can see Japan in person someday.

@Awesome_Aasim 6 месяцев назад

@@RoadGuyRob Maybe one day! Japan has a lot of cool technologies.

@ScottWallace5 6 месяцев назад

Grreat video Rob explaining and breaking down the airspace development and such. I've also driven under the Walgreens in Reno countless times and always wondered why it was there, as it's so random haha. Thank you for explaining that!

@rollwithit-vq4lf 5 месяцев назад

Just found ur channel and wish you great fortune with your channel

@offroadryanmb 6 месяцев назад

Your videos are always amazing!

@radudeATL 6 месяцев назад

Simple formula: Road Guy Rob uploads = I’m gonna watch it a few times + upvote it.

@AmericanLoner 6 месяцев назад

You're edits are becoming next level

@dbanks8995 5 месяцев назад

Very informative. Great job

@radioactivemike1 6 месяцев назад

Your content is gold. Thanks!

@blinkenlights 6 месяцев назад

My favourite airspace usage is over in Dallas. Beautiful park and public space over the freeway, connecting downtown with another collection of high-rises.

@david9192 6 месяцев назад

Absolutely I was thinking the same thing when I saw the pallet fire under the 10 freeway in LA

@common_c3nts 6 месяцев назад

In Texas, I have seen a post office built under a Freeway.

@RoadGuyRob 6 месяцев назад

Which city?

@SignalMan9292 6 месяцев назад

In Denver CO they had the I70 raised up and it had soo much stuff underneath it. Finally they tore it down and are putting the interstate underground

@dindog22 6 месяцев назад

in San Diego the Old Town transportation center seems to have a bunch of parking under a highway bridge

@pappaslivery 6 месяцев назад

The masspike (I90) in Newton outside of Boston has had a supermarket and a hotel over the highway for ages. Originally the idea was for the highway to be completely covered. There's been some added cover in Boston proper and there are plans to add park space next to Chinatown. It's a really neat use

@Dave-in-MD 6 месяцев назад

Same thing happened in Baltimore on the Moravia ramp to I95. Tow company lot under the overpass, some cars caught fire and damaged the overpass.

@ph11p3540 6 месяцев назад

In hindsite of the freeway leassed air space fires, installing a dry standpipe with a sprinkler system sounds like a good idea. They dont even need city water, just ocean salt water (hence the use of dry standpipes)

@thatjpwing 5 месяцев назад

I used to go to a barbershop under a railroad bridge in Jamestown, New York. When a train came through the barber always paused the haircut or shave.

@OfficialMarkieB 5 месяцев назад

Here in Kansas City we just slapped a Observation Wheel right next to a high way bridge. And under the bridge they created a family friendly entertainment district. Look up Pennway Point

@TheWarrior1256 6 месяцев назад

Such an underrated channel

@blaquenoise 6 месяцев назад

Here in Massachusetts and Rhode Island there are various parks built over the freeways. In Fall River the court building was built over the interstate.

@howebrad4601 6 месяцев назад

The Chips reference was awesome

@georgebanuelos1 5 месяцев назад

Actually drove by the Los Angeles pallet area under the freeway a few weeks before it went up and I I honestly told my uncle how a pallet fire was waiting to happen

@drockjr 6 месяцев назад

This was a neat video. Thanks rob

@James-gd3sp Месяц назад

8:39 its crazy seeing the exact grocery store you have been to on a road guy rob video!

@nutandboltguy3720 6 месяцев назад

In Dallas they built a deck over 366 aka Woodall Rodgers Freeway, and made it Klyde Warren Park.

@davidp2888 6 месяцев назад

Great video, Rob.

@keithshort688 6 месяцев назад

The North High Street overpass at Interstate 670 in Columbus, Ohio has a couple of retail stores and a restaurant or two on the North High Street overpass above the Interstate 670 freeway.

@bubblemaniiired 6 месяцев назад

Great video! Funny how you mentioned Sparks, NV with I-80 since I drive on that everyday! There’s also an RTC bus yard under the I-580 north of Plumb lane. Guess we’re a bunch of copy cats!

@GirtonOramsay 6 месяцев назад

In San Diego, there is even a motel under the I5 & I8 interchange near Old Town station. That whole area is so depressing to even pass through

@thetommantom 6 месяцев назад

I think I've found the best balance between efficient and quality all concrete finished where the floor flat for ada and drains into holes in pipes in the basement built in rain gutters in the walls finish with wood and plastic and flat roof with railing height wall on the roof finish with detail instead of the sill plate and wood roof do a sideways wooden awning to make the warehouse precast look like a house like a small downtown buildings

@LucidDreamer54321 5 месяцев назад

In California you can live under the freeway.

@ElderStatesman 6 месяцев назад

Guess this gives the song "Under the Bridge" by Red Hot Chili Peppers a new meaning. 🎵Under the bridge downtown is where I built my garage!🎵

@pulaski1 6 месяцев назад

There have been workshops and warehouses underneath railroad lines in the UK, notably in South London, for over 150 years, and in fact building the rail bed on elevated brick arches with room underneath the arches for industrial rental space was explicitly part of the business model of the builders of the railroads, to bring in additional income.

@ffjsb 6 месяцев назад

It's fine IF you use it for certain conditions. First, any storage must non-combustible, like rock, sand, non combustible metals (except scrap) etc. Any buildings should be completely sprinklered, and any HVAC units located on the side or rear of the building, not on top. Parking is fine as long as you provide provide a minimum clearance between vehicles of say 4-5'.

@ronoconnor8971 6 месяцев назад

I worked for bridge builders who did caltrans work for the past twenty nine years, dont blame us. We took pictures before, during, and when done. Our ironworkers were too tired to do side jobs.

@jul1440 6 месяцев назад

The actual towers used for cellular telephony are called _base towers._

@Purchaser. 6 месяцев назад

Theres one under the 91W too. Its a fuel tanker yard. Its near Alameda exit. Just before the Crystal casino.

@suzannamurray2751 6 месяцев назад

Hey Rob, it would be great to see some videos on cycleways design!

@thetommantom 6 месяцев назад

I inspect buildings and have a pretty good resume and i have spent so much time drawing my own building design from what I've learned best practices and actually testing material for a 4 house big 2x2 20ft unit with 2x3 garage built like a 2 story building with lodge fireplace kitchen upstairs and open air pavillion above the garage and it like a bridge warehouse parking garage

@edwardmiessner6502 6 месяцев назад

There's a supermarket over the Massachusetts Turnpike (I-90) in Newton, MA, just outside of Boston.

@SpringRubber 6 месяцев назад

As bad as the I-10 fire was, it was nothing compared to the massive tire fire under I-95 in Philadelphia back in 96. A junkyard of 10,000 tires caught fire, melting the northbound lanes and shutting down 95 for months.

@MikeHarris1984 6 месяцев назад

I10 in downtown PHX before/after the Deck Park Tunnel, is like that, and business even with hazerdous meterials operates under the I10 freeway.

@cheebawobanu 6 месяцев назад

Reno/Sparks NV RTC bus shop sits under the 395 freeway. In front of the RNO airport entrance.

@TheCloakedTiger 6 месяцев назад

I like when they use air space under freeways and turn the areas into parks. Well lit parks mind you. Don’t wanna be hanging out under a dark sketchy freeway! Rochester NY built a beautiful skatepark that is absolutely PACKED on weekends and it’s right smack in the middle of a loop ramp on the I-490 near the river with a bike trail nearby with fantasic views of the bridge.

@gordybishop2375 6 месяцев назад

Just saw a video from Japan showing apartments under the freeways…very nice

@ScannerJunkie 6 месяцев назад

I can only think of one in Virginia. There was a high school and parking deck built over I66 in Arlington,VA.

@logical_evidence 5 месяцев назад

I didn’t know that. Thanks

@andybrown4284 5 месяцев назад

Kind of like the workshops in arches under railways in UK cities, we tend to use these odd things called legs for getting around town which is usually more convenient that driving around and around for somewhere to park. For a road to go under a building it needs to be buried so the earth can absorb a lot of the vibrations, loads of weight on top of concrete pillars (probably done by a low bidder who still found a profit) will have all kinds of structural issues especially if the flow of traffic is nearly constant.

@alexdreyfuss1050 6 месяцев назад

Hey Rob! Can i make a suggestion for a future video? While we're talking about elevated urban freeways... The historic Seattle waterfront viaduct (SR-99) suffered damage in a large earthquake in 2001, and was recently replaced with a 2 mile long tunnel. Lots of controversy surrounding both the original viaduct and the (way over-budget) new tunnel. Also nearby is the end of I-90, and both the interstate and SR-520 have impressive floating bridges for another video topic while you're filming in Washington. I believe both would make some interesting content for you to share :)

@seanmcdirmid 6 месяцев назад

This is so common in Japan, why not?

@brewcider 6 месяцев назад

san diego old town transit centre is a prime example of a parking lot under the freeway

@matthewchase2512 5 месяцев назад

This stuff is bigger than most people ! But thanks for that video!

@ShenghongZhang 5 месяцев назад

In Japan, you got shops under the freeways. It's a good idea to use this space otherwise will be wasted.

@eplwash3582 6 месяцев назад

Seattle's Freeway Park and convention center is a shining example of what air leases can be.

@gtrogue 2 месяца назад

There are a lot of proposed projects in Atlanta right now to “cap” I75/85 with parks to reconnect the two halves of the city. I hope some of them eventually become a reality. There are similar proposals for GA 400 which split neighborhoods in half when it was originally built in the early 1990’s.

@micosstar 6 месяцев назад

9:37 perfect segway with the wood!

@RoadGuyRob 6 месяцев назад

Did a bit of news writing early in my career... 😁

@TJames5142 6 месяцев назад

Maybe I'm speaking the obvious, but what jumps out to me is the image of the I-880 viaduct collapse during the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake. So it's shocking to see the lax zoning that would essentially allow this to happen again.

@Canleaf08 6 месяцев назад

In Berlin, you have restaurants and other businesses under active S Bahn lines.

@BeltFedToys 6 месяцев назад

Looks like NYC under the BQE (Brooklyn Queens Expressway), also the "A" Train in Ozone Park has buildings under the above ground subway tracks.

@crazyjack3357 6 месяцев назад

Here is maybe an idea if any lease places are deemed unsave and need to be kicked out or any vacant lots make a rest area, parking for cars and trucks, bathroom, showers to help long distance drivers and even the homelees by giving them a public bathroom and shower

@AshmewStudios 6 месяцев назад

I think freeway caps are a really underrated way to eliminate some of the impacts caused by freeways. They work well for recessed freeways that are below grade, and it allows for parks or developments to be built on top. It also removes much of the noise pollution caused by freeways and makes cities more inviting. I'd love to see a video sometime about freeway caps!

@circleinforthecube5170 5 месяцев назад

some of them need to have glass so you can see the cars below but not hear them, that would be cool as fuck, they should do the same with subway systems but they are much too deep i like tunnels, they are interesting and we need more of them and parking garages are also cooler than surface level parking, actually they could have nodes of parking garages and consiladate city parking by district.

@Zynbabwe902 6 месяцев назад

I go to school a couple blocks away from here off washington and fig. I can''t explain how bad it is in this area

@Sacredheals 6 месяцев назад

Can you do a video on why some states (California / Nevada) put a second Turn Signal Light on the pedestrian pole, and other states (Arkansas / Texas) do not? So TX/ AR only has one light to look at when you're turning left. So if the sun is right behind the light, you physically cannot see the turn light to know if you can go or not. In CA/NV, you have a second light to look at. I'd love to know why

@mitchellwalker9839 6 месяцев назад

You will find some of the London Underground will have business underneath the tracks.

@hayzeproductions7093 5 месяцев назад

Dont give Illinois or Louisiana this idea, they have literally holes in many of their bridges, you can look down and see a river about 60 feet down.

@mws3779 5 месяцев назад

This actually made it into the videogame Grand Theft Auto a game that is based on California and L.A.

@jandraelune1 6 месяцев назад

Chicago and airspace usage was brought to an additional lvl with 3 lvls of road capped with buildings.

@ghost307 6 месяцев назад

Chicago has also used airspace to put buildings over railroad tracks and yards.

@Josh-yr7gd 6 месяцев назад

Aren't those bridges supposed to be inspected annually? If those areas are closed off, how can they be reached for regular maintenance and repairs? What about painting the steel beams? Also concrete is porous, so the ceilings to these places probably experience a lot of ongoing moisture. I'm from Ohio and used to inspected bridges, so these are my biggest concerns. Of course we have a wetter climate and the winter freeze thaw cycles cause our bridges to decay faster.