For the First Time Ever, Steve Isn't Top Tier… 

Facts been that way since ttt2, my first tekken.

He has the styles of all the greats like Ali, Tyson, Holmes, etc, put into one dude. I love this fucking fella.

​@@PitbullPuppy12bro tried to sneak in holmes

Same

inspired by how he looks

@@Daemon1995_?? Tf

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@@Daemon1995_ clown

1f kara cancel?

@@mdanialsanchez pretty sure the pkb cancel everyone's been talking about can ONLY be execute if the first 3 before 3+4 is exactly 1f before inputting the 4. Which in my mind is nor consistent enough to be competitively viable as a tactic.

@@mdanialsanchezlook up lh into pkb it’s quite tight still not great whatsoever compared to what your meant to get off a mixup.

sway throw also catches most power crushes.

​@@stussymishka yeah but doesn't do damage without a wall, so not ideal.

I feel the struggle.. the first few days was rough for me 😅

Thats true, steve is my main in all of the tekken games i started this year im now at brown ranks "Vanquisher" i play it sometimes i play fortnite more

They should remove Lion heart after db3,2, bring back knockdown and guaranteed 3+4 d2. There is no reason to duck Steve in T8. That's why Anakin was so surprised when that Reina was so scared of stomp. Low pokes are ok. D1 , FC.df+1 and especially d2,1 is now even stronger because low parries are nerfed in T8. Another thing they should maybe change is easier input for 2 break grab. Something like db2+4 or 2+4b.

db3 got gutted it sucks so much now that theres no knockdown

@DDP637 try it in heat. Lion heart having the auto parry will really check people who don't know and try to punish the string like normal. But yeah, not great anymore in the neutral.

B1 isn't like what it used to be.. he's pretty trash tbh compared to what most of the cast gets. I guess because he has been good for so long they decided to gut the character

​@@GodbodyRokuHes not bad though. Just not as good. And was their a change to b1?

Back1 has a fat hitbox now. And rocket punch, sonic fang, running2 heat is great. I think he's underrated now and still great. Mad they took away the shiro though df2 is hella mid now.

Seems too difficult to consistently pull off and you get punished for failing.

It's too much work to call out a power crush from + 7 with a throw. The mid and throw can also get backdashed after stomp when you can just weave most power crushes anyways. From +11 heatsmash is good though I guess. If they buffed lnh frames or guardbreak reward lnh would be usable

Its borderline useless, Steve still mixes himself up, just from a different angle, if he does it, while being insanely hard to realistically use in a match.

It would make Steve a thousand times better if the tech was absolutely easier to do because you're gonna mess up trying it online or in match no matter how much you practice. The timing of it is dumb

Even before the tech he can still duck cancel from lionheart to block anything. Its only really good if u can do it fast enough to take advantage of the frame which is veryyyy strict

What makes you say that? is it cuz he's not completely broken?

@@biivii100 he’s broken in the wrong way

@@yungmaui4876 Wild statement considering we aren't the ones who design the characters. I mean do you really want steve to only have one weakness ...AGAIN?

Na that boring jobber is good where he is. If top players & Steve “mains” drop him then they were just tier whoring

Hes still very good, just not an auto win character like in the previous installments. Now steve mauns have to actually try like every other player

Nevermind just now saw the video upload date😂

i11 back 1😂

You should approach his heat smash differently. if you have heat you have more than just your heat smash for plus frames. I use his heat smash for whiff punishing ONLY.

Them not giving him any new usable lows hurts. I take advantage of qcf2 being able to be done from crouching and also try me best to land heat engagers. Then I can encourage them to crouch from using the heat exclusive duck throw

​@@TkAnakinI would say d 21 into duck cancel is his only truly viable low since it's safe and I guess fairly quick?

Bro if they block your heat smash (+8)and you have a read that they will press something mash 1 immediately (don't delay it!) this will always beat Rage Art, Burst or any Power Crush. If they block it you will lose your turn, but you're still safe at -9. You have to remember that after some moves you are in Lion heart, but +8 (blocked HS) +11 (ws2,2 and f2,2 on hit) +14 (ub2 on hit) In these situations armor moves can't do shit to you. Only when you're +7 (db3,2 b1,2 etc) or +3 armor moves unfortunately beat every single LH option. Of course some characters can parry your Lion Heart 1, but very unlikely in FT2 set.

@@KrisDee1981 At +3 or +7 you PAB cancel and throw to counterhit throw the armor move, or just do a bare PAB cancel into low or standing block if they've been mashing. You can also PAB 2 for the punch parry if they've been extra predictable. People are too scared of that cancel; you can get it consistent

No

The feet is the only good part

It took a couple days to settle in but this is the finished product when I finally got comfortable with him

@@TkAnakin I am jammed at battle ruler I need to get into the matchups to be more comfortable. Ill hit a while standing12, jab, and they will just mash while standing and launch , I have to get my situations down. Sometimes I get clipped and feel like i have no control lol. Steves i13 mid isnt huge reward, sonic fang is nuts at -14 but negative. I just got to put in the work

​@@TkAnakinInsane skills bro. Smoked S tier characters even without optimal combos. That Sonic Fang heat dash connected every single time. It looked like you have access to T7 Rage drive or some shit 🤪

​@@Edcas1226df1 is still a good poke. Animation looks like it doesn't have range, but actually it's reaching far with descent hitbox. 2 has a really good range in T8, but for some reason I always forget to use it more for punish, and whiffing 1,1,2 sometimes 🤦‍♂️

Tell me you’re clueless without telling me.

@@VDViktortell me you’re a 🤡 and a 🤤 without telling me.

@@VDViktor tell me u don't play Steve without telling me.

i couldn't care less about that lol better buff his game.

Good luck!

@@TkAnakin thx!!

Why do you think he’s not playing pad right now?

That’s your opinion lil bro

Hes not broken and never was even in seven he was just a great top tier character here hes actually bad

No sane person would say Steve is a broken top tier, cut it out, you just suck at the match up. Stop pressing so damn much 😂.

@@dripfoe_3307 _"you just suck at the match up. Stop pressing so damn much"_ Nice personal attacks instead of arguments why what I said is wrong, kid. This makes me wonder, what's your rank? Probably just another one of those green-purple ranks, which never played against a good player in their life and never even managed to win against mediocre players to get to a good rank, but thinks that he understands the game. Hits close to home, doesn't it?

@@lestonclark2398 You formed a broken sentence that doesn't make any sense.

U cannot put this guy as “top tier” and have idiot designed characters like t8 dragunov who can mash their brains out with endless plus frames. Not even remotely close in strength.