Another Ford tape, this time promoting the new 1.6 diesel engines for the Fiesta, Escort and Orion. Sorry about the flashing white line at the top - I have a new VHS recorder and I can't seem to get rid of it.
All these cars people still driving here in Bosnia. Golf Mk2 1.6D 40kw is absolute hit here and the best csr ever made. They can last long as owner or even longer with proper maintenance. Now Golf Mk4 1.9TDI takes place on road from mk2 but it will never be legend as mk2. I don't like VAG at all but it is fact that their cars are most reliable for lower price here in Europe.
The best diesel engines are those of the late 90s/early 2000s, when they had high preassure direct injection and turbochargers, but without any DPF or EGR valve to clog up with sot after 100 000 km, setting your car into limp mode only to cost you $3,000 to fix at the dealer.
For those interested: The Fiesta was last taxed until June 1997 The Escort was last taxed until Sept 1997 The Orion was last taxed until October 1993 The Daihatsu was last taxed until May 1992 The Peugeot was last taxed until July 2000 The Cavalier was last taxed until February 1994 The Renault was last taxed until Sept 1994 Couldn't read/find the other car's registrations I searched for these out of interest, RIP to all these cars. You're welcome
70mpg, and here we are 35 years later STILL struggling to match that! they werent gutless in their day, but they were anything BUT quiet. we owned them at the time, and i would want another as a second car. sadly theyre very expensive now, for what they are
My dad did bought a second hand Mk1 Sierra (late one, 1986)........... and after many years, he had sold it with 560,000 km's (interior was desintegrating and last years he used the big trunk to collect spare wood in forrest). But it had Peugeot 2.3D and the car was made in Belgium. With European diesel FORD's since Mk 5 Escort 1.8TD, you can literally throw a dice. You either have one great car or total misery on 4 wheels. Like the first Edge design Mondeos ....... many people perfectly happy while many couldn't even start it at +5 degrees of Celsius.
The Presenter of this film is the late actor James Kerry. He starred in many great TV shows of the 60s and 70s including The Saint, Dr Who and General Hospital. He sadly passed away a decade after making this at the age of 57.
This brings back memories. The company my father worked for in the 80's had Orion and Escort diesels and he sometimes borrowed and Orion diesel pool car. I used to the love the clatter and idle and they always had a distinctive smell inside. I purchased C reg Orion diesel on in the late 90's and it still smelt and sounded the same, was also very comfortable but I remember the steering being extremely heavy! I would love another if I could find one.
@ betaman, thanks for posting! I'm a long term fan of the 1.6D, ever since their launch. First one I drove was a nearly new 1986 Escort Combi van 1.6D Popular. It was a company vehicle shared by two of us. Unfortunately in the hands of the girlfriend of the other driver one evening, it lost an argument with a taxi, and that was my 1.6D motoring over, for what at the time I thought would be for ever.... Wind the clock forward a couple of decades or so though, and I am the happy owner of three low mileage examples! I have a 1984 Fiesta L 1.6D, and two Mk4 Escort 1.6Ds. One is a 1986 5 door estate, the other is a 1987 3 door Popular saloon. I never originally planned to have three of them, but they were all too good to miss, and I knew that near mint low mileage examples were not exactly common! Also I just couldn't bear the thought of someone maybe buying them for their shells and sticking in other engines! Yes the 1.6D isn't the fastest, and yes they are rather agricultural, but so what, they are bullet proof mileage munchers, and that distinctive sound of theirs is fabulous! Doug
it really was a good engine. It had 33.75hp / liter which was very good at that time. Even the last volkswagen SDI (non-turbo diesel) with high pressure PD-injection only had 37.5hp / liter. Most other naturally aspirated diesel engines at that time were worse. The Peugeot XD2 Ford used at that time in other models, only had 29hp/liter. My grandpa had a fiesta with that engine and never changed the oil until it barely reached 100km/h any more. In the garage then, they realized the problem, changed the oil and it went strong again without any problems. Do this to a modern engine...
I had a 1.6D Fiesta around 1988, went to Blackpool for the weekend, overslept on the Sunday & had to get back for a christening in Walsall, drove it flat out all the way back on the M6, 100mph all the way back , my ears were ringing & had white finger by the time I got back lol
Ha, that engine was a bloody good one, we had escort Van's in the 80s, lasted into the early 2000s being thrashed for their whole life by forty maintenance engineers. Mine ( we each had a van but anyone could use it, basically you looked after it) when round the clock 4 times an a bit more, it was still driving as it went to the scrappers!
@@nysun6293 Except that electric cars really are the future. It's just a matter of time before the cost drops by a bit and the public awareness increases, deviating from what I see in today's comment sections full of myths, lies and misconceptions.
I learned to drive in an escort powered by one of these. Clattery & slow, yes, but it managed over 50mpg at a time when diesel was much, much cheaper than petrol was. It was a non-turbo so no fireball to drive, but honestly just for transport it was fine. It wasn't until the mass adoption of diesel in the 90s that everything had to be turbocharged to they performed like petrol cars - which meant they also used about as much fuel......
Ford Escort 1988 1.6 diesel estate.Best car I ever owned. I drive slowly anyway so speed no problem. Minimum of 50mpg easy to repair and kept going up to 275,000 miles before rust took over. Engine still working great even at that mileage 🙂
what memories , had an ex AA van for 10 years , drove it everywhere every day and it never let me down , 1.6 was better than 1.8 , single timing belt and Bosch injection so we have excellent throttle response , allways thought the 1.8 with CAV had an elastic band between the throttle pedal and the pump!!!! , there was a guy doing kits for the 1.6 to use in marine applications!!!!
Love videos like this. 0-60 in 15 seconds is horrendous. 😂😂😂 The best early diesel engines were generally French ones, the XUD PSA engine was a little gem. The ZX Volcane was one of the first small cars I drove with a diesel engine and thought it was as good as any of the petrol variants. Mind you that was nearly ten years after this.
I've owned both the 1.6D and 1.8TD Ford and 1.9 XUD and DT engines. The fact I still have a 1998 306 that's still going immensely strong in body and engine, should tell you all you need to know.
I used to drive a Mk2 Fiesta van with the 1.6D, it was a great wee thing, it just ran and ran, it got replaced with a bedford rascal which require way more gearbox rowing while running about industrial estates delivering parts.
1986 Orion MK2 stratos silver 1.6d 850 000km without engine repair. Gearbox and clutch was orginal too. Body was totally end of life and electrics. It was markable car and still carry the key on My keychain. After 600 000 IT needed engine heating in under -5c 😃 At The end 0c was was too cold without electric engine heater
I had one of the first Fiesta 1.6DL off the line :) Lovely car, but it had a replacement engine within 6 weeks! Some numpty had left a clip off a hose and it overheated within the first 10 miles - replaced under warranty. Lovely car for an 18 year old ;) I then moved to an Escort 1.6D GL - with all the options I could get - champagne gold. I should have got another Fiesta - same engine, but much slower heavier car.
Used to have a Peugeot 205 1.8D as delivery vehicle, the engine was absolutely bomb proof, powerful for its size and very economical. Had over 300k miles still pulling strong, but the chassis rusted away.. :/
Awful. "8 counterbalance weights instead of 4" as if this were a good thing, introducing so much extra rotational mass giving the engine a throttle response last seen in an oil tanker
Ruthless against the other cars. I like the close up of their smoking tail pipes. Not sure how it was said that they were cleaner engines, maybe less nox/hydrocarbons but surely not particulate matter.
A few different manufacturers have done the same "cheat" private tests about a year after the initial scandal, opel/vauxhall's tested found to adopt a similar ecu mode, and mercedes and its only now 2020 mercedes are starting to be held to account for there vehicles Most important thing for a diesel to me is a turbo
Although the Peugeot looks a bit flimsy it proved to be a very strong and long lasting car i just saw one the other day in traffic, judging from its license plate it was from 1987!
2:14 That radio would have been more appropriate to 1974 than 1984. Ford were terrible for fitting cr*p radios in their cars, when a Vauxhall were installing proper stereos with digital tuning.
this was one of the best engines. It was a Deutz engine. a manufacturer who produced tractorengines. 3.7liter diesel on 60miles or 100km in real. we had a Ford Fiesta with 660 000km. i sold them because of a Porsche 912. I was an Idiot. in the end the car was running 165km/h on straight without problems. with the second clutch.
That engine was just about okay in the Fiesta but awful in the bigger Escort and Orion. Learnt to drive in them and even before passing my test found them slow. Put me off diesel for years. Bought a 306 D turbo in the late 90s and couldn't believe the improvements made. Been running a Leon TDI for over 13 years but don't think I'd want to drive one of those 1.6D's again lol
@@peterhealy545 They drove well, but was my first & last French car. Threw a rod on the motorway & needed a recon engine. Replaced it with a MK1 Leon in 2006 & I'm still driving it today.
Back in the day these were very good engines, Vauxhall’s also had good Diesel engines in the 80s, to today’s standard they weren’t very refined but they were reliable, with limited things to go wrong. Nowadays they are more refined have turbos and loads of sensors. The problem now there’s much more to go wrong.
Clutching at straws with criticism for the 205 lol. The PSA diesels were miles ahead of anyone else right into the 90s when finally other manufacturers started getting their act together.
Compares Fiesta stats to 205 stats Realises 205 is a better car after bigging up Fiesta for 15 minutes *Let's be positive, it's actually an ally to the diesel cause*😂😂😂
@@TheBlaert Brilliant cars. My friend's dad has a near mint 205 from 1995. It's a turbo diesel, and it's got over 500 000 KMs on it. He has owned it since 1997 I believe. He does however (for the good) maintain it really well, at this rate it could still be on the road in a couple of centuries assuming bullshit emission standards don't get to low...
@@mr.slaphappy3794 I had an old Citroen Synergie MPV with the XUD. We ran it for years on veg oil, I remember taking it about 6-7 years ago from Nottingham to Gt. Yarmouth on £14 worth of Aldi's finest sunflower oil. This was with 3 kids, the missus, the dog, roofbox and a shed load of camping gear on board. It was glacial slow but cheap to run and monumentally reliable. Wish I'd never sold it.
Had a C reg escort mkIII that prob spent its life as a minicab , Starting was always difficult, changed the glo plugs and it was marginally better, Failed MOT 3 months later on 17 items--was well and truly put off ford diesels--Best ones were the isuzu 1.5 and 1.7s in the novas and corsas, bombproof, quick and easy to maintain
Most people purchased a ford under the mentality it is a safe buy because it is a ford, with people mainly stating they are easy to get parts for. In the 80s I had a Yugo Sana, other family members had ford fiesta, Sierra and escort, they regularly had their cars in the garage for alternator's, distributer faults and regular valve clearance adjustments etc, my Yugo had a 1.4 fiat engine, in seven years, it only ever required brake pads tyres and eventually an exhaust, It drove better, was more economical and had more comfortable seats, and cost around half the amount. They all said don't buy a Yugo you can't get the parts, I hardly ever needed parts and the few parts I did where of the shelf so not a problem.
I had an Escort 1.8D 1988 3-doors with lowered suspension and RS alloy wheels. Consumption was 4.2l /100km unbeatable ! But too much rust at the chassis
I owned an ex police 1994 Escort saloon 1.8 L diesel for a few months. Surprisingly good. It took 6 seconds to fire up and had other faults of a 16 year old car but I was fond of it. Sooo economical. Yes it was slow and the engine was as coarse as a badger's backside but it got me back on the road after 3 months without a car. Comfortable drivers seat too.
Shit slow, noisey, but reliable as possible.I had an Escort Diesel van back in 1992, i was 19 yrs old, but cruised the earth for about 80k miles on a fart and an aspirin.No fault lights to pi55 me off.Cracking vehicle.
I had the 16d fiesta it was fantastic . At the time the engibe was very refined and I was crying upland fownntge m6 Ellesmere port to Preston 5 days a week. The car could hold its own against 1.8 2.0 petrol engines cars and it never dropped below 56mpg regularly in the 60mpg mark being a student mpg was very important to me . They only car to better it was the 1.7 d in the fiat uno it was more refined than the ford and mire powerful plus the father a manual engine advance for winter mornings The performance on the fiesta was so good they had to use the suspension and anti roll bars off the xr2 . Notice they did not included the fiat because it's two diesel units where much better than any of the others.
My cousins other half had a maroon red b reg orion 1.6 diesel for a few months in 1999 covered in dents and only 1 wheel cover left but it kept going.weighed it in for some beer money
Drove a 1.8D MK3 fiesta van for while many moons ago very economical and reliable, but sounded like a tractor was slow as hell stunk like it was trying to kill you as you drove along even with a brand new exhaust. Would run on old chip fat though so you could smell of fish and chips instead of diesel after a journey.
I had a 1.6D escort estate back in the late 80s and yes it was slow but it bought it with 65k on the clock and sold it with 410k on it and the only thing it had was a camshaft oil seal and a water pump and it went everywhere on a cup full of fuel i was self employed at the time so having something that was reliable' economical and cheap to maintain was a plus it was just a pity they went rusty ...
Lol what? The Orion was literally an escort 4 door with a boot and the fiesta was the first release of the new airo styled generation, the new escort and Orion hadn't came out at this stage, but even so small cars always look different to thier bigger siblings.
@@colinjohnston8519 Don't quite know what you're talking about. Look at the New Fiesta and the New Focus. Hell, even the Ka+. They are all practically the same car.
Having run 1.6d escorts at work back in the day,I'll say this..slow...great mpg though and reliable ...1.8d... timing belt issues..the last diesel I had was a mk3 vw golf t.d...never again..
Quick, quiet, clean! How times have changed. Horrible slug of an engine, but no doubting their durability. Can't judge them by todays standards though, and interesting to see this (presumably) Ford internal video.
I've heard of the Ford 1.6 litre diesel engine. Was this offered here in the USA? I know that Ford did briefly offer the Escort for North American customers. I was way too young to drive at the time.
I wouldn't have thought they'd offer that diesel engine for sale in the states. Waay too slow for the roads over there. The 0 to 60 mph figures they give in this video were complete and utter lies. Much slower than that.
@@TheBlaert I seem to remember the Ford Escort being offered here in the States with a diesel engine back in the early 80s. It didn't sell very well, for obvious reasons.
I really love Fords, but anyway time have shown that Golf mk2 is the best :D The only surviving 80's car (as a daily driver) that you can see on roads today. :)
best car diesel engines of 80s and 90s was peugeots xud series diesels and mercedes om series 5 cylinder engines even better if fitted with bosch pump on peugeots
I had a 1.8 turbo diesel sierra it was quite nice, smooth & quick what I can remember. But going back in time when diesel motors didn't have all that crap dpf bollox going on!!!
With all the unwanted electronic nonsense put into modern cars we are slowly been railroaded to have to go back to the main dealer for everything. More ££££ for them.
@@marcusphoenixish You'd never meet emissions and economy standards without electronics. Never mind the performance and refinement we expect from modern cars. I don't find electronics a problem to be honest. Solid state stuff is extremely reliable in my experience. Actuators and transducers can go bad of course but top tier fuel solves/prevents most issues. Again, this is only my personal experience. I run my cars without recourse to main dealer facilities, though I do have access to local independent specialists that cover both the cars in this household. In this case Mazda and BMW. No mainstream car maker is intentionally going to make things go wrong. The reputation would follow them and that would create immense problems for the brand.
My dad used to have a mk3 1.6D. That thing had a top speed of 120 KM/h and it took like 30 seconds to get there, but the fuel consumption was crazy good even by today's standards.
