Ford 4V V10 First Start! | It Sounds Insane! 

Thank you! It was great seeing your P1 at SEMA, looking forward to seeing the rest of the build!

Hope you put break in oil in it!

Freddy, I heard you’re removing the hybrid system.. lol. Dude I can’t weight.. get it.. gonna be insane

@tavarish has entered the chat

got anything that needs a V10?

No kidding! People have NO idea how difficult this stuff can be. These guys knocked it out of the park!

Diego and Jack should be both awarded a Masters in systems engineering for this accomplishment.

Hell yeah it is! Now uh....when you gonna have that therre Hooo charger and manifold added atop this magnificent beast? Yknow, it runs, so the law is add boost until the rods see daylight, then rebuild it! Seriously, congrats all around, thats a monumental amount of engineering and self taught just stubborn "fuck it, ill do it myself!" Energy. That's the right kind of energy, if you ask me!

Needs a supercharger 👀

@@doktorzasinuseone issue with superchargers, ignoring heat soak and increased IAT, is the extra load put on the front main bearings. The sc pulley is torquing on the main pulley, and that puts extra load on the front main. This is especially true of a factory motor with aftermarket supercharger kit installed, but even when engines are designed from the factory for this extra load they still often have issues long term, especially when modified for more power than stock. I’m an engineer who’s worked for Ford and experience with amateur road racing and building engines for over 20 years. There are a lot of reasons why road race cars prefer N/A, especially amateur with less budget than factory team, but even factory teams stay away from superchargers. They’re good for drag racing or street, but less than ideal compared to other options for road race.

The cylinder heads alone are an impressive feat.

The v10 truck engine is 2v and larger displacement. This motor did exist actually, ford did the same thing, used 2 4.6l 4v engines and heads and made a v10 version. They put it in a cobra r to test it.

@@dhmoto111 - I’m an ex ford tech, I know the old V10’s well, and well aware that ford’s one off 4V V10 sounds amazing, too.

​@dhmoto111 the V10 was also a 3V and tbh 3V heads are only a few hp off 4V outside of unobtanium Ford GT heads

​@@fiddynutz683v heads do real good for sohc heads but they dont match 4v heads ported vs ported. Yea out the box they aren't far off the older 4v heads but if they're both worked max effort with a proper setup the 4v heads are going to make more power especially once boost comes into the equation.

Well, Ford would have to build a V10 version of the Coyote for this to work. And, if Ford says no, then these guys have their work cut out for them!

​@JohnDoe-yj5ng if the heads are available cast or cnc there are plenty of ford v10 blocks sitting

Yes please

Just lying around with a cold and stumbled upon this video. I’ve wanted to do a boss v10/gt500 67-70 but it’s hard to find aftermarket for these things. You guys could possibly become big time rich…very quickly. I’d buy them 4v heads for sure!

@@JohnDoe-yj5ngnot exactly. if aftermarket’s see this and feel like a viable endeavor then all they have to make are cams, 4v style heads, timing equipment. all the bits other than the block unless they’d choose to do that as well.

Sounds like you were a shit engineer they rebuilt a once running engine and got it running what part is incredible?😂

@@karlwithak. Lol what?

@@karlwithak. 🤡

Duuuude I didn’t even think about that. I was thinking a clapped out 90s caprice and make it a sleeper, or a farm truck, like an unassuming ranger or a 90s f150

GT-40 clone,.. or Shelby Coupe would be amazing homes for this motor, as would the 90's era Ford GT, or a 30's/40's Lincoln. Heck, in a late 50's or early 60's Thunderbird, this would be amazing.

a v10 pantera would be sick

Don't you mean facilities maintenance technician?

Custodial engineer ***

@@mchristr you don’t know my life 😤

*Engineer of antisepsis development*

🤣🤣wtf that's so weird and doesn't even make sense. For obvious reasons it will always mean much more coming from the professional in that field. I think you heard that people should respect the custodian as much as the CEO and got things a little mixed up... They literally engineered something dude The professional engineer with 40 years of experience complimenting them means a lot. Some random custodian complimenting them on something he doesn't even understand doesn't mean as much that's just common sense

Yes absolutely. While most idiots their age are wasting away playing video games, these guys are doing awesome things. I hope these guys become very wealthy while keeping that smile of pure delight.

Cash flow is a major influence on "young people" doing this. Js. The average person can NOT afford to do this bud.

@@rescuedabyss if they didn't waste their money on garbage and cry about entering the workforce at entry level and not management for their first job they could. It took these guys well over a year working JOBS and this in their spare time. Dont take away from these guys by saying they are privileged or something. No. These guys are willing to work towards something.

@@doogie525you can’t just say everyone has access to stuff like this

@@doogie525just another out of touch boomer that thinks everyone got to live life on easy mode like his generation did. Nothing to see here.

This baffles me. The 4 valve 5.4 and 4.6 drops right in with factory computer, just reverse polarity on the coils. That’s it. Everything else is exactly the same, so with a 4 valve. V10 why not use stock computer. To run this thing and reverse coil polarity instead of reinventing the wheel. Creating the heads was the hardest part.

​@@feellnfroggy the V10 was only in trucks and vans. Tunes for the 6.8 are harder to get hold of and limited to truck applications.

@@craigwiess1656 I'm aware. But it would have been drop in, and any tuner can change the parameters for car applications. Easier to get it running. Then swap to standalone later when you have more info. Moot now, it's running. Good job for that. Just seems the hard way.

@@feellnfroggy Admittedly I don't understand the subtleties of this but can a stock computer run 2 throttle bodies?

@@mchristr I missed that part of the build. No it can't. But you can run two parallel. 😁

True Dual and even fire is a very weird combo

This is Ford’s 6.8-liter, DOHC, 40-valve Triton V10, isn’t that true, guys?

​@@mlsabc1236they only made a one off 4v v10 this is a custom made one using 4v heads from a v8 chopped and welded together to work on the v10. Yes this is a 40v v10 but Ford didn't actually make these in production vehicles they were only 2v and 3v version in production vehicles they did one in a one off mustang for 1999 it had 426 hp and over 400 tq back in 1999 it was a 351 cubic inch v10 though not a 6.8 liter like this one.

I could use these heads for my V10 🤘🤩🤘

Getting John Kaase on board would be the best bet he loves quirky ford shenanigans, hence why he won engine masters with a Ford 400 and 5.4 mod motor and built 429 boss heads for the 385 series big block.

Well a viper engine is a push rod motor this is a doc motor I can already say it’s probably gonna be turning up 8,000rpm like nothing

​@@5.slow-rangerThe location of the cams doesn't make nearly as much difference to the sound as the cam profile, header design, and firing order do. In fact, a pushrod engine and a dohc engine with all other factors similar would sound nearly identical

@@tome1903 except it does; it is the same reason the 2,3, and 4v mod motors all sound completely different.

@@wckdvnmproductionsand number of valves

The dodge is an odd-fire design and the ford is even-fire. The dodge shares crankpins between banks while the ford has offset or “split” pins to correct the firing intervals. The dodge sounds better imo more aggressive, the ford has a supercar sound, this one sounds amazing compared to the trumpety drone of the stock 6.8 2valve.

I have a v12 in my 750il makes little power now but this project makes me want to tear into mine and try and see how much power can be squeezed out of it

I think the viper heads can be modified to fit the dodge 8.0 truck v10. I used to be into the dodge v10s. I had to drive a ford v10 for work and it stunk compared to the dodge, mileage was better on the ford though! 10mpg vs 8-9

​@@_..-.._..-.._viper heads will not work on the truck v10

I'm also a Pontiac enthusiast and dedicated Anti-Ford, that being said I love V-10s with displacement and these men have accomplished something epic. Definitely inspiring to see them endure the variety of hardships and come away with a Victory ✌️

⁠@@SGTMARSHALL1Pontiac died a long time ago I understand why you would hate 😂 Ford still being here and all. V10’s are very nice I had a v10 F250 sold it in 2019 with 450k miles it needed a performance version

@@CoyoteFTW my hate for Ford comes from purchasing 2 of them and then watching them disintegrate into worthless piles of shit over a very short time. I am glad that you got some good mileage out of yours

The cobra concept was a 5.8 v10 though. It was built for racing. The 6.8 is more for hauling.

The problem with V10 ford is that the crankshaft is a weakness. That is why no one really does anything for the V10. I would say with the dual overhead cam heads it's possible that it's close to it's limit on power. With that being said...it sounds truly beautiful. Great job...

it's not a 6.8 v10, it's a copy of the rare 5.8 liter v10 that ford made of two chopped 4.6 liter engines.

@TheRoadhammer379 True but this one however is based of the 6.8L SOHC 2V Triton V10.

I think it was a small team at SVT that made the 4.6 based V10; which ironically came out to be a 5.4 I believe. That’s a totally different approach though. They had to cast a block, and have a custom crankshaft made as well as the heads. Ford missed the mark by dropping that project 😢

@@MrLuvtheUSA yes. It was a 5.8L. The displacement recalled the old 351 Cleveland and Windsor. They also used a common pin crankshaft for strength and high rpm. That's one thing I worry about on this build is the strength of the split pin crank at high rpm or lots of boost.

I have done some hot rodding of the ford v10. Nothing like this though. With my couple of built motors, I found the split pin crank is good for about 500HP and 5500 RPM MAX. I didn't do any cam changes, and it takes some work to get them to 500HP.

@@dalewhitehead5378 that seems quite low. Have you broken a crankshaft?

​@@MrLuvtheUSANo, Ford did not miss the mark. Those of us old enough to remember the MM&FF, et al articles about that project know the inherent problems with that engine as well as any V10 based on the mod motor family of this era was NVH and the split-pin crankshaft. There are very good reasons why the 4.6 & 5.4 got more aftermarket support while the 6.8L was left to truck/RV/generator duty, it flexes a lot more than the V8 blocks where high-rpm and/or high cylinder pressures make it liability compared to investing the time, money, effort into the V8's.

Thank you! And we are glad you enjoyed our struggle 😅. Huge fans of your content btw!

Agreed

It’s closer to terminator architecture. A coyote variant would be scary

This is basically a triton and trinity half breed 4v v10.

Good eye! That top pulley needed to be shimmed a little to align.