Ford E350 Front Coil Spring Change; Ride Height Adjustment 

That's good to know, I'm gonna need something even stronger. The front weighs about 4000, and the rear 6000 on the Extended Cargo. I will keep this in mind when I add a 1000 pound custom, welded, wraparound guard and bumper. And a 12000 pound Warren Winch. Thanks again for the info. F550 huh....

What year is your e350?

Your welcome. If you didn't hear this in the video, the diesel springs actually helped with the Camber angle problem I had as a result of changing the tire and rim size. It no longer pulls to the left like it used to and it steers easier (but not to the point of oversteering). I got a small 1/2 to 3/4 inch front lift out of it. If the springs wear and cause the front end to dip low again, I'll post an update comment.

Where I can get this spring from ?

So when you change out the spring, do you need to go and get your vehicle realigned

Yeah, I suppose you could pull the sway bar loose. I guess there would be no guarantees. The general consensus should be that if the spring can be moved by hand, or by foot, or by medium hammer taps in combination with not being too compressed (meaning an entire coil, one revoulution, not more than an inch or two from a factory spring), it should be safe to take out any way you can without a spring compressor or safety chains. If it's gotta give less than an inch from overall factory length, then it doesn't have enough tension left to cause any damage or even move out of its own way. I say if it makes people comfortable, tie a rope or a chain around it under the truck so it can only go up or down, not out.

The wheels are Continental VancoFourSeason Tires from Europe. 285/65/R16 on a 10 inch Black Rock Rim for the rear tires. 30 1/2 inches tall and 11 1/2 inches of rubber on the ground. The front tires are 245/75/R16 on an 8 inch rim of VancoFourSeason also. 30 inches tall, and about 8 inches of rubber on the ground. The 1-ton van rear ends are 3 inches shorter than the front ends. I corrected this by adding a 16x10 inch rim with a 4.25 inch backspacing. The front rims are 16x8 inch Cragar Soft 8 black, same style as the Black Rock, with a 4.5 inch backspacing. Now the stance is even front and rear. Giving me maximum roll control, and the Super Single rear tires are rated at 4100 pounds each. Giving me the ability for maximum load capacity and tongue weight. I called Black Rock to verify that the rims themselves have been tested to hold up to 5000 pounds each, even tough they have various advertisements. Standard Cragar center caps with raised Ford logos and 2 inch deep stainless steel 16 inch Chevy Impala trim rings. Very effective in the rain.

The ride was definitely better. The ride is still a little bumpy, but it's a work van, a little bit of a bumpy ride ain't that bad. What improved though and keeps to this day, is the ride height and its profile when looked at from the side. This in turn helped to ease up the steering a bit, and adjusted the camber just a tad bit, as well as give a smoother overall ride up front. Definitely not as stiff as I thought for a diesel spring on a 5.4l gas engine. I expected much worse.

I got about an inch. But the lift wasn't the most beneficial thing, it was the ride height under a load. It cut down on sag and wheel chop. And that's just what I needed. It's still like that today. Same springs still holding up.

Absolutely.... Even new standard springs would fix a lot of sag issues, camber, etc. I would personally go after changing the Twin I Beam bushings. I'd use polyurethane bushings and then rubber for every other bushing to keep a smooth ride. The I Beam Bushings and the springs are the number one reason for the camber slouch. The ball joints contribute, but not as much as the other two components.

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Moog 12FV26F...... Try this. For the 460 and 7.3l diesel.

Looks very easy

These springs aren't load bearing. The old timers used chains. I've heard my share of horror stories. Mostly GM junk.

Why a spring compresssor on an E-Series? I've never had to use one so far. The closest I came to using a comressor was on a B-Series dodge van. And that was only after I put B350 springs on a B250 to get a 5 inch lift. I guess if you're dealing with all that rust, it changes the game.

@@shadetreeautomotiveenthusi1284 Yeah, exactly that. Rust and salt corrosion for 21 years. Just a different animal here in the rust belt of western N.Y. Bought a new set of spring compressors, better design. Changed out opposing side by merely removing the tire and compressing old spring out, compressing new spring in. Easiest spring change ever done, nothing more required to disassemble

I don't know about the F-Series/E-series interchange. I know the front end is different between the F and the E. Everybody's trying to use CC880s. They're too weak for a one ton. The best way to find out is to cross reference any part numbers that interchange between '96 F250 and any year E-Series. I would start on Moog's website, or Ford Parts Giant. It's possible...

Sounds like the toe was out and physics was not on your side.

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They will fit. But they'll be stiff and they'll change the ride height between an inch to 2 inches. The heavy duty spring for your 150 is the CC81370, which also fits E250s and E350s with the gasoline engines. This tells you one thing. All mounting procedures, control arms, components, spring towers are the same on the 4th gen. Econolines. Out of all the springs, the 66s I installed in this video are made to support the most weight. When they say they don't fit, they mean the weight in the front end. They will fit. They'll have a different ride height and stiffness. A lot of people use Moog 880s on E150s to get 2-3 inches. But this only works out for E150s with engine weights at about 500 pounds. A 5.4l weighs 600 pounds, a 4.6l weighs about 500 pounds, the 4.2l weighs less. The V10 weighs 700 pounds, the diesel weighs close to 900 pounds. All of the springs mentioned are about the same installation height, except the 880s. They need to be pried in lightly, but they're softer. The only difference when referencing coil springs are how much they give when the vehicle weight bears down on them. If I had a 150, I wouldn't hesitate to try 66 diesel springs on it if I wanted to even out the ride height. But I gave you the other part number just in case you want a factory heavy duty spring that says it "fits" your '04. The only time I found that springs cause a problem is when you have an E-series with AdvanceTrac traction control, like the '07 models. If the spring is too stiff on an AdvanceTrac vehicle, it'll set off the traction control when you hit a bump on the road.

@@shadetreeautomotiveenthusi1284 sweet man thank you for the info

@@joshwalker8803 You're welcome. Stay up and keep working on your own stuff. Too many soft hands out in the world today. You know, men without nuts.

@@shadetreeautomotiveenthusi1284 lol heard that

Hey dude I'm finally getting ready to swap to those 66 springs. I was miss guided on what the previous owner did to the rear suspension but I've since looked at it and all the did was add coil overs they are starting to ware out and I'm getting alot over travel on the rebound. I'm an electrician and sometimes pull a 12' cargo trailer what shocks would you recommend all the way around.

285/65/R16C VancoFourSeason tires on 16x10 inch rims in the rear and 245/75/R16 VancoFourSeason tires on 16x8 inch rims in the front The tires are by Continental, and I bought them at SimpleTire. The 285/65 tires were $350 a tire, and I couldn't find any reviews for them in english. Like "Super Singles" they're made to replace the dually wheels on vans like the Mercedes 3500 rated 4100 pound per tire. Every review and commercial I found for them on RU-vid were in German, and the tires source from Slovakia, and the Czech Republic. But so far, excellent on the road. Both tires are 30-30.5 inches tall, new.

CC81366 Moog. Constant Rate Spring

How you doing I have a 01 7.3 ford van and I was thinking to use this cc880s on mine did you fix the rubbing issue you had thanks

@@rmandoss They do rub slightly but I'm not sure if it's enough to worry about, I haven't found much information on it so I wish I could give a better answer. Seems like a popular modification.

@@alexanderdefender Thanks man also I was wandering if this lift up your van and hows the ride quality thanks @lightwarrior144

@@rmandoss Yes the springs I think add 2 more inches of height. Evens out the van, but if yours is loaded in the back or towing it might squat funny. Rides similar, does need an alignment done afterwards. Shocks also help, I am slowly replacing the whole suspension. I need to do the sway arm bushing and I beam bushing.

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@@shadetreeautomotiveenthusi1284 thank you

@@shadetreeautomotiveenthusi1284 lol thats where i got mine and ill be using your vid as a guide when i do this. i already have the parts i just dont want to kill myself doing it by myself. i did the front end of my highlander from a yt vid back in 2013 and it ran till i traded it for a van. i have an e250 so your vid is absolutely perfect. cant say how much i learned as im watching it and rewatching a few times before i crack any nuts. may even post a vid on my paltry channel. thanks a lot guys!

How did it work out? Did you need new shocks?

I did all the work myself. I sold the van a few months ago. The install went great!, super straight-forward. The drive was excellent, huge overall improvement. Turning and railroads did great. I used GABRIEL 61591 ProGuard, MOOG K160043 Spring Seat (I sat it over the exisiting hard plastic white OEM ones, worked fine) and the MOOG CC81366 Springs. Fantastic Front end!!!!!

@@RippSnortin some of the exisiting nuts were really seized on there, And one of the sides (I think driver side) shock was extremely difficult to remove, as it's hard to fit tools in that area.

it's a real pleasure working on such a large vehicle. I had more trouble the rear shocks/ rear end in general than I did the front. The only other issue I had with the van - Loud powersteering, really clean fluid but still just really noisy. Great solid rig tho! I just don't have to use for so many vehicles.

@@JosephMBoyer thanks for the response. My main concern is the shocks. I just put new KYB Gas Adjust shocks on about 3k miles ago. Don't want to buy another new pair. On my van the tops of the front tires are inward and they are wearing on the inside. So l think the original springs are weak. But if he already had HD springs before changing l may end up with more lift that the 3/4 inch he got.

CC81366 Moog.