Love the product, but I wish your coils would be available for the 2.7 EB, which is %60 of the F150 sales. The first and second 2nd Gen. Plus other SUV's and the FFS.
I never understood loss of HP from crank to wheel and why it’s calculated in percentage. If an engine has 100 hp at the crank and only registers 82 hp at the wheel, then it’s an 18 hp loss m (18%). However, if you that that engine up to 1000 hp without changing the transmission, drive shaft, or wheel/tire, why is the loss all of a sudden 180 hp? Why wouldn’t the loss still be 18 hp?
You can just change the formula with new numbers? Edit: I just got to the part where he says that and I hope he just misspoke because that wouldn't work like that.
I just bought a 2012 f150 ecoboost twin turbo. Love it. Wish I had the funds to do a makeover. Had 147,000 klm. A question: the previous owner did a cold air intake, but did the vent to atmosphere. Is there any downfalls to having this done? I noticed oil spray where they vent.
c barteaux buy a catch can, and a metanol kit. Chances are that your intake valves have some coking on them. Newer ecoboost engines have a secondary throttle body injection to work in conjunction with the direct injection to clean the valves up. The methanol kit should clean it up while increasing your pre-ignition threshold.
That is Awesome Joe, I would need to buy the performance parts in 4-5 separate purchases for my 2013, which one's would you recommend for 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc.?
@@vincenzogranatelli1622 UM...yeah you should. Put them in a package deals of various stages. I have a 2011, I like the numbers I saw on the dyno in each step of modification. You know, each piece individually sells at x price. but if you buy piece 1 and 2 you get -10%. pieces 3 and 4 -10% if you buy the entire kit you get -20% on the entire build, theyd sell like hotcakes!!!
Granatellimtrsprts very respectfully... the coil and the spark plug basically represent a circuit.. lower cylinder pressures don’t require as much voltage to “ complete “ the circuit. In fact the potential to go higher can’t be utilized.. this can be proven on an old time Sun scope. With that said the higher the cylinder pressures are the more voltage is required... true enough.. but the stock coils should be good to 50 k or so. So my point is if your stock coils are meeting the requirements, I.e. not causing a miss... then the higher potential is just not utilized... also higher primary currents can be detrimental to the PCM drivers.. I appreciate any other thoughts.
@@GranatelliMotorSports I would love to see a photo of that trip calculation with some decent time on it. I have a 2014 supercrew 4x4 with the 3.5 eco and the best I am getting here in NV is low 17's freeway. I know these mods are improving available fuel efficiency since the injectors and turbo size are staying the same, but feel 24 mpg is still as unrealistically inflated as Ford's advertised #'s were. Would love to be wrong though. Nice vid on the dyno results.
That tune needs some speed correction because I guarantee the tire size setting is wrong if that's his gas mileage. Check his speed against GPS speed. 24mpg is bs. My 14 eco is tuned with exhaust and 20x10s with 33s and a leveling kit and gets 15mpg
24mpg is possible. I have a few more mods all done by lms on my 15 and I was getting 23.8mpg. Then I went to 285 tires and it dropped to 18.3. By putting your tires and leveling kit you dropped it a lot. These trucks hate bigger tires
Wow this is amazing with basically just bolt ons that even a DIYer can do. Damn 400+ HP that is sports truck range. Biggest thing that amazed me are how vital the coils are in HP and torque. I'll probably just change the coils myself for the crazy jump in HP and torque with those coils. 25+ hp increase is no joke for just a 15 min job.
A lot comes into play, operating temps have a big impact, if it was cold it would be much higher, I had a old supercoupe that was super charged, it would have another 60 hp in the wintertime
Not necessarily... every dyno is different and is only good for comparing before and after results. That’s it. Some dynos show this engine stock upwards 330 hp.
So the most bang for the buck appears to be coils, tune and exhaust. I know the air intake and tune were done at the same time, but from my research, aftermarket air intakes don't seem to offer much improvement over stock air intake on the EcoBoost engine.
Hey, I have a 2021 F150 XLT Supercab with a 400 hp 3.5 eco boost. The new 3.5 Eco boast is 400 horse at the crank. Can you guys make the same kind of improvements to my truck and would that void my warranty?
Wow! Pretty amazing gains. What does all of this mean for life expectancy of the engine and transmission. And what does it do for fuel economy? Can you also please link to the parts and pieces needed to do these mods?
Hi, looking to get your coilpacks for my 2013 ecoboost. It has 200k miles and runs smooth, still recommend? Also, on your site i see item but is it a pack of 6 or do i need to order 6 of them? Thank you!
Just bought these plugs for a stock 14 f150 ecoboost and they work!. I only push the pedal 25% now and 1st gear is breaking tires! Noticeable gain. B4, pedal 50% or more for same scenario. Can't wait to get a tune next!
I’d like to see these same progression of mods done to a 17+ f150 with the 2nd gen 3.5 eco boost. These numbers are impressive. One thing I’m curious is, what octane did they use? I also am curious how it affects the longevity of the transmission and the engine.
Amazing video! ! I’m thinking of purchasing these coil packs for my 14 Ford Tremor FX2, just waiting on my corsa exhaust I just order and my high flow cats with turbo adapters! I currently have Wagner Inter cooler with a dual intake upgrade! I’m located in Los Ángeles and will love for you guys to Tune my truck! How much will it cost for a dyno and tune ? I’m highly interested! I would like to know if I can also just buy the coil packs right there and then ?
From Ford they build the Eco Boost to be bullet proof. With the upgrades we did the engine is still in the SAFE zone and we are not pushing this truck to its breaking point
These engine make a lot of power with just small amount of bolt on stuff looking at getting a down pipe for mine. Looks like I will have to get a set of the coils to
We did the installation of our parts and a few other as shown in video. Best bet is to call into Granatelli 805-486-6644 and we can help you. As for longevity. Its got well over 100k now and still going strong mileage is still 21mpg from date of purchase - never reset it
Its crazy to me now days how little people know about engine's and how to make power. By reading these commits. Boost , timing and fuel just a tune alone you can get crazy numbers the problem is running out of fuel so for big boost and timing on the stock high pressure fuel pump you need to run methanol. Or pay 1500 for a more psi mechanical fuel pump.
I drive a 2018 Ford Raptor do the EcoBoost in the F-150 and the Raptor put the same output do you know I'm fixing to get it tuned and I'm buying both on for it
I clicked on this video not knowing anything about it other than it was about a Ford EcoBoost. I’m an old guy from Indianapolis and my first thought was, “Wow, this guy looks like ‘Mister 500’ Andy Granatelli.” Two seconds later, I realized why...
He probably gained from properly gapped new spark plugs, but pushing to sell coils. Most bang for the buck will be intercooler, new higher heat plugs, custom tune - total of $1,000 - install it your self ...be a man. Gain within 30 hp of what he has. Having loads more power at low rpms then 6.2l Chevy (even if its fully modified NA), priceless.
i have a question if you lean it out a little and then hot coils will that burn holes in the top of pistons after a while ?? just thinking of the longevity of the engine dont want to spend that kinda money if i got to put new pistons in it year down the road???
We do. Our 3.5L EcoBoost Ignition Coils can be found at the link below (P/N: 26-0646CP): www.granatellimotorsports.com/products/2011_2018_Ford_EcoBoost_3_5L_Twin_Turbo_6Cyl_Engine_Coil_Packs-3073-0.html
Hello I have a 2013 f150 ecoboost. I have added amber 4" fatback are stage 2 dry filter kishimoto intercooler granatelli coils and fords colder plugs also sct x4 tuner truck needs a dyno tune to truly feel it. Ive probably got roughly 2500 into it. That will give you a rough range of price
How would this compare to a 2014 Explorer Sport? I know they don’t make an Intercooler upgrade. What coils would you recommend? Also you didn’t mention changing the map sensor did this have a 3 bar map or changed thermostat?
@Granatellimtrsprts Joe this is a great vid. You really showed how you do the baseline runs, add products, do more runs. You showed where some mod's actually lost power. This really is a great vid. Thanks.
I'd just like FORD to fix my new F150 with 3.5 Ecoboost. It misses all the time. Pull out to pass and the engine misses and stutters even worse. Ford dealers response; we know you have a problem and we agree the engine isn't running right but "THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO". "Ford knows they have a problem but can't fix it and the dealerships aren't supposed to divulge it" Truck started this at day three. I've now owned this truck for 37 miserable days. We affectionately call the truck "MEL TILLIS". Thanks Ford.
@@Maga4Lyfe I mentioned that to the Ford dealership and even mentioned a "Catch Can" installation. They looked at me like I was nuts and said if it was that easy they'd already have done it. I've heard it works.
@@bluemut55 Give it a try there is s good chance it will work. I went ahead and did mine even though I wasn't having any problems because I wanted to drain that oil out and I got quite a bit of it out and I just went ahead and plugged it back up.. I will do it every once in awhile to get the oil out where it shouldn't be. Give it a try you have nothing to lose. Many videos online on how to do it. Just use a 1/16 drill bit very small hole. Doesn't hurt anything. I also installed a catch can from jlt performance they are the most affordable at 140 bucks. I couldn't believe the oil i emptied out of that thing only after a couple weeks. It was a ugly looking yellow color. Installation took 20 minutes.
As a former EcoBoost F150 owner I wouldn't go any higher than 17 psi. I was running 22 peak and completely destroyed the engine at 48k miles. I had a CAI, Tune, catless down pipe and straight pipe from there. The thing was mustang GT fast for about 6 months before it blew. Luckily it was covered under warranty but I'll never mess with the EcoBoosts again! A ford 5.0 can handle a few hundred extra HP with no issues the ecoboost can't.
Sctx4 tuner and the prx tune from mpt and you'll get 105hp. 550 bucks. Did mine plus a couple other mods and the truck is scary fast..2013 limited model..
