Ford F-150 V8 vs Turbo Towing MPG Test | If You Want The Best F-150 Fuel Economy Buy THIS Truck! 

Smarticus but did you tow anything with it? Because that’s the main concern is the usable torque...

ryan Lusby no I did not. But I have towed with the 3.5 and that was a torque monster. However I only got 13 MPG on a 500+ trip at sea level while towing.

yea bouy lol. I only had the 2.7L for a week. But I have towed quite a bit with the 3.5L Compared to my Silverado the 3.5 is a towing machine.

Smarticus tantalizing really that's a girly word.

​@@paulrodrigues9603 Paul...Making fun of someone for using a girly word? Are you a twelve year old or just uneducated. Good luck with getting your GED.

True

Or...sometimes the tailgates themselves are so weak and feeble that they'll drop on their own... LOL. news.pickuptrucks.com/2019/05/2015-2018-ram-1500-2500-3500-recall-alert.html

My truck is 26 years old and the tailgate is fine. I never even heard of a dampening tailgate until this year.

I'd get irritated waiting for the stupid thing to drop, but I'm also not worried about breaking a finger nail.

Brace yourself as this may come as a shock but sometimes grown men have a wife & kids 😂

Look at past videos in pretty sure they have tested both trucks empty

George Trivanovic then you really don’t need a truck do you?

@@MrAppltec Ignorance is bliss. I'm a college student from Alaska and drive a truck here in California. 97% of folks don't tow a thing. We drive them for the security, ground clearance, power, and pride of ownership.

Daniel McGee I tow maybe 5 weeks out of the year and use the bed to haul something heavy every now and then majority of the rest Of the year it’s empty that’s why 5.0 forever

Mike Parlin You drive a truck in california?! with those gas prices?!! lord have mercy on your soul 💀

And most people spend 90% of driving unloaded

so 95 to 99% of the time you own the truck you probably won't be towing unless you work for a hauling company in which case your probably not buying this vehicle anyway... So for that 95 to 99% of the time you will be getting better mileage than the V8 saving money every mile you drive that will more than outweigh a 2 mile per gallon or LESS difference on one towing trip..

@@Napster60 - and don't forget the 5.0 Coyote costs more (it was either $995 or $1995 over 2.7L when I looked in 2017).

@@RipReturns The price difference really doesn't bother me.. first of all no one pays full price.. people that pay sticker price have too much money and deserve to get ripped off. There are reasons to get the V8 I'm perfectly happy with the V8 I think it sounds amazing I think it's probably more reliable past 200k. I think if you want to make it really fast there are all kinds of tuning and bolt on options you can get for it and the sky is the limit with a V8.. you can only push the EcoBoost so far before you run out of power to add on.. For most of us that doesn't matter at all we don't need any more than 600 horsepower.. I love the EcoBoosts more I think.. it ticks all the boxes.. Power when I need it Towing when I need it Efficiency when I want or need it Pleasent to drive. Great visibility. An I'm sorry but in my opinion Ford is the only one of the the big three truck makers that feels like they are innovating and making good long term business choices. GM is so big that it feels out of touch in many areas like they copy their competition and stamp out borring stuff just for the hell of it. Crysler makes so many poor products that I even avoid the few good ones they make from fear of the brand..

Even empty the 6.2 chevy is better and the hemi is pretty much the same as the eco. In real world driving. In town or if your diving like a grandma then it does good on fuel. But normal driving its no better then any other one.

Sounds like you need new tires on the gto

Lol $50 if you buy from the right place

$20 on Amazon

Just got a Dee Zee tailgate shock for 20 on Amazon and it’s a 10 min install lol... it’s so much better than just letting it fall..

I bought a $40 tail gate damper works great and was a 15 min install.

What does you manual recommend 87 or 91

@@GreatValue32 87

This

What is your mileage

John jay drott except for the 3.5. That’s the king.

@@2KCamaroZ28SS no I think the 2.7 is still faster

Same for me with '18 5.0 XLT Sport Crew Cab 4x4

I get a combined 19-21 in city driving in dallas, that is about as bad as it gets, no real speed limit to speak of and lots of heavy throttle(its not unusual to go 90-100 in the left lane). I get about 24 city in places like MO or AR where I’m not driving as fast in City driving and terrain impacts your speed and direction more than dallas. It will get 24-25 hwy in TX and 27-32 everywhere else. I find that the 70/75 mph limit is the difference. If i set it at 70-72 it will certainly get 28mpg while at 77 it will drop to 24-25. In a 70mph stretch from CO to TX i have done 32.x on 3 occasions with about a 2000’ decent over a few hundred miles. Hands down the worst fuel economy it gets is with a cross wind, in west Texas it happens often. I guess because you have to steer into it a bit, that is where the efficiency loss is. if I have a strong cross wind it doesn’t matter what I do, it will get about 20 on the highway and feather the front tires a bit.

I'm getting 20mpg back and forth to work(city/hwy mix) in my new Ram 2500 6.7 Cummins 4x4. All day in town got 18mpg. When FLT towed a 12,500 pound trailer they got 11mpg with the Ram. That's better mpg with a much bigger trailer. Be curious to see how it would do with that lighter trailer. I considered the Ecoboost, but glad I went the diesel route now, as I am not really losing anything empty, and this will be towing my home in a couple of years and can tow a lot more than the 1500's can.

I’ve added a 19 4wd and it’s comparable to what others are reporting in mpg for mixed. I don’t know what it will get on my long trips yet but I’m thinking it’s going to be several mpg less than the 2wd.

@@AJGT350 you get 20 in the 5.0?

You have to keep in mind tow ratings too. The 5.0 when properly equipped can tow 11,600 lbs and has a max payload of 3,270 lbs. The 2.7 when properly equipped can tow 9,000 lbs and has a max payload of 2,470 lbs. Those are substantial differences. Is the 2.7 stout? Absolutely, but you have to take everything into account. If you want a better tow rig in a F-150, get the 3.5 EB. The 5.0 is a solid motor that fits in between the 2.7 and the 3.5, plus it's a lot simpler. Honestly, all of the engine choices Ford has will do 90% of what most truck buyers need.

I honestly wish that Ford had just made an improved engine out of the 5.4. It was a better towing engine. People see a V8 and think it has to be fast. Well, no, it has to be designed to be fast. The 5.4 felt slow because it didn't generate mid-to-high end power like the 5.0. Even looking at the crazy power of engines today, the 5.4 makes more torque than the 5.0 till about 4200 rpm.

@@satalac you said precisely what I was going to say. All of these engines have their sweet spot. Unless you are going for the extremes, any of these engines will do great.

So a 1 mpg difference is a no go for you? Even tho the 2.7 tows a trailer easier..

Tommy Gordon Jr I have a ‘17 CCSB 4x4 with the 3.5EB and averaged 11 mpg town an 18ft trailer loaded to around 7500lbs from TN to CO when we moved. That’s through all the rolling hills the Midwest has and doing the speed limit (average of 65mph). Daily driving I average around 21mpg.

@@joshuarounds7180 nice! Well I guess that statement is only partly true.

Well yeah, if you drive slower, MPG increases. But if you want to do the speed limit on the interstate, this test is an accurate real world test.

Speed limit isn't a requirement as long as you're not going so slow as to impede traffic.

@@kingdaniel3519 exactly. Personally, if I'm towing 7000 lbs or over, I'm doing 65 mostly in the right lane, letting everyone pass me and keeping my stress level low and MPGs higher.

Wow that engineer is an idiot. Turbo boost levels are determined by load, timing, and afr. Not rpm. Rpm has absolutely nothing to do with the boost. You can have the throttle at 15 percent at 5k 4pm or 50% at 3k rpm. 50% at 3k rpm will flow way more air and require way more fuel.

It would be a snap.

They already did older versions of those. Same weight, different trailer. www.tfltruck.com/2018/06/mpg-challenge-most-efficient-truck-towing-listed-specs/

I've got the 3.0 ppwerstroke and get a tad over 30 miles to the gallon not towing. But I know I could get better. Haven't towed with it yet. I still like to make sure I put some miles on a truck before towing

N Pooch thanks for the link👍🏼

@yfz450rx this is all Texas interstate mainly 85 mph

Yep. And the V8 is BARELY slower off the line...as in a few tenths. I'd happily sacrifice a few tenths and get better mpg, better sound, and better long term reliability and cheaper maintenance at 6-figure mileage.

Justin Luttrell it’s the passing power that the ecoboost excel at

Considering the Ford GT now has a twin turbo V6, Ford has got those babies dialed in! My eco-boost 2.0L Escape hauls ass!

@@justinluttrell1769 point is, The v8 is sluggish off the line The 2.7 gets better mpg The sound of an engine struggling at high rpm nobody wants Perceived reliability isn’t real, just a feeling There is no more maintenance on the 2.7 than a five oh

DoctorHO I own a 2015 F150 with the 2.7 eco boost and my son has an 2011 F-150 with the 5.0. There is no comparison, the eco boost will out tow it any day and also get way better fuel mileage. Just my real world observation.

My dad had driven 2.7 and it would run like a dog. 3.5 is best

We regularly tow a 4500 lbs travel trailer with a crew cab 4x4 2.7L and it’s been amazing. Average for us towing is about 15 MPG, unloaded 18 MPG. Lifetime average at 26,000 miles is 16.8 MPG

Read up on low mileage 5.0 failures, the Ecoboost seems to be the way to go for 2018 and up. I have a 2016 Coyote, but if I were to buy another one today it would be an EB all the way. www.f150forum.com/f118/2018-f150-5-0l-excessive-oil-consumption-tsb-2058-a-440924/ www.f150forum.com/f118/wwyd-first-month-engine-trouble-445218/

Well it’s obvious that you don’t know anything about the 2.7

@Tsang Tsung Wreck your MPG too.

The Ecoboost must have a high, flat torque curve vs the V-8.

I agree it depends what you are looking for. If you tow often and far, then V8. If not the 6 is better.

The only bummer is you can't get a supercrew long bed 4x4 with the 2.7. Only 5.0 coyote or 3.5 ecoboost and the 3.5 is about the same unladen efficiency as the V8

And for people who only tow on occasion like during camping season, it makes perfect sense to get 2.7

Yea world's better at pulling heavy loads! That why max towing for the 2.7 is 9000 lbs abd the 5.0 is 11300lbs. Sounds like you are better off taking loads!

613 doo that makes zero sense, The 2.7 is fast but its tow rating is 7000- 8000 is its limit. The 5.0 is rated at 9000-11000? Your basically contradicting what the engineers say the engines can do.

@@MrInzombia has nothing to do with actual capabilities and more to do with cooling efficiency and design of engine when it comes to how the engines are rated. I have had both and much prefer towing with the 2.7 all day. Have you ever towed with a 6.0 litre chevy in a 2500? Slow as heck and a painfull experience but its rated to tow much heavier loads. Its not always about performance when it comes to max tow. Sorry soms of you get lost in numbers and don't get the chance to try them all out. Oh and my 5.0 was 9000lbs max with a screw with 3.73...not earth shattering

Iasked that before (I was a fuel oil truck driver before and liquid moves) and didn't answer me either. They should use solid cement blocks secured to a pallet.

My thoughts also. Rating hauling performance with liquid as a ballast is not typical. That being said, at least they are staying consistent.

I saw a 2014 3.5 on sale locally with over 160k miles! People refuse to do simple maintenance and upkeep and blame it on the manufacturer when they break their own products.

A coworker's dad gas a 2013 3.5 EB and its a disaster. Cam phaser is what they're thinking what's wrong. Just over 100k miles. Metal particles showing up in the oil. Trying to dump it now by trading it in. I'd be getting the 5.0.

@Rick Johnston Go watch the Town and Country Ford bid where they ask their entire service dept which engine they'd choose in their F150. Its about 14 to 1 for the V8. There's something to that.

Yup, 14 mechanics all fighting over who will get to work on those five ohs, daddy needs a boat..

@Eat Jat So what? Drive as fast as you want with any engine you want. A 5.0L would return similar numbers, maybe better numbers. The issue is the 2.7L Ecoboost is rated higher on the sticker and is marketed as the "Eco" option for greenies and people trying to save money at the pump. There's nothing "Eco" about them.

@Eat Jat The EPA highway test cycle requires 7% idling, acceleration from 0, braking and speeds up to 80 mph, not just a steady speed below 80 mph. It's actually a somewhat demanding test. Under those conditions, Ecoboost engines never get their EPA estimates. They barely get that under the best of conditions. www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/fe_test_schedules.shtml

@Eat Jat Oh, you're totally right! it's not that the Ecoboost doesn't deliver in the real-world, it's that that real-world goes too fast.😂🤣🤣🤣

@Eat Jat It actually doesn't. Only a small number of shills claim it does.

correct, if turbochargers were truly more efficient, why isnt every engine turboed?

For a number of reasons. 1) They test the trucks they have access to. 2) Not every engine is available with the same gear ratios. 3) Four wheel drive models may only be available with certain gear ratios. See: #2. Go to Ford's website, select the "Build your own" and see for yourself. Try to spec out the trucks, as shown on here with the same gear ratio.

lmao gait. you're hilarious

@@PJAvenger lol, it's tale gait, right?

Not to mention the weight difference.

I have a 2011 w 1st gen/3.5 Liter Ecoboost. Looking at a new truck for 2022. Would you still go with the 3.5L Ecoboost or 5.0 being that you have owned both now for several years? Thanks for your time

Could easily be the main fuel economy factor as well.

Actually the 3.73 gear in the 5.0 would have accelerated better and returned better towing mpg.

Yes

I have the 2018 3.5L and tow a 30' camper (7500lbs) all over the Colorado mountains. I average right at 10mpg consistently when towing. I probably drive slower than they do though.

@@billybeemus3929 I have the 2010 5.4l v8 and get about 8.5-10mpg towing my 7500lb Lacrosse 30ft trailer as well. when I am on the prairies though, it is closer to 6.5 or 7mpg due to the winds.

2017 3.5 F150 got 9.1 MPG. Same weight, different trailer. www.tfltruck.com/2018/06/mpg-challenge-most-efficient-truck-towing-listed-specs/

Yeah those oil consumption issues aren't as common as it's made out to be. Also the difference in mpg is probably due to the difference in gearing

@The94GTC I agree with that as well. But the problem with the ecoboosts came from the direct injection more than the turbos. My buddy has an ecoboosts and I have a 5.0 they both have their strengths and weaknesses. Early 5.0s had distorted cylinders. Early ecoboosts had problems with timing chains and with misfires. Engines are so advanced now that there is bound to be some issues that need wrinkled out. Wish Ford would just keep the same concept instead of changing it every damn time they come close to perfection

Even at sea level the 3.5 will tow things easier than a 5.0

lol ok grandpa

Joshua Long LoL love you use “proven fact” as if it’s actually proven or actually a fact.

Joshua Long Back up your proven facts with actual facts...

@yea bouy See his cargo list? You'd need 3 Prius's to carry that!

As the owner of a 3.5L ecoboost, this is 100% correct. I can pass anyone I want even with a trailer on, but my god will she suck fuel. But cruising? She sips it. Considering it's primary job is getting me to work, and only towing maybe 10% of the time, I'm happy with the trade-off.

It's all in how they're driven.

Rapid acceleration will always increase fuel consumption regardless of the power source .. be is piston, electric, steam, chemical rocket. basic physics...

You have no idea how an engine works.

The EcoBoosts are designed to handle that pressure appropriately though.

Mark S great

IMO based on history and the changes in the second gen fuel delivery I think it will fare well.

Will need a timing chain or some other catastrophic repair...it is a FORD afterall

Got mine new in 2015, 72,400 miles zero issues. And I drive hard on and off road. Even towed with it a few times

@@mikefoehr235 doubtable

You'll know what its all about when you have it.

Right!!!! I feel I'd be too impatient waiting for the damn thing to open I'd just push it down.

Kids and wives

I have bad shoulders, and you wouldn't believe what a difference it makes that I don't have to 'catch' a tailgate anymore. If you had pain, you'd understand.

At least in a Ford you could change the starter by yourself in an hour for less than $150, a Turdra will take you 4 hours for $200+.

I agree on it takes a little longer however I have three Toyotas and no starters failed. The truck has 62,000, the car has 90,000 and the SUV has 110,000. No problems as of yet. The Toyota that we let go had over 200,000 and we did the normal stuff and again no problems. I had Ford F-150 and dodge and not the same story and that's why we changed to Toyota because we were having problems and just had enough.

HellBoy 2.7 vs 5.0 isn’t apples to apples either.

rear gear ratio doesnt matter as much as it used to for mpg when you have those 8-10 speed transmissions

But they were both BLUE!

It still may be apples to apples. Ford, and all the manufacturers, install different gear sets based on the power curve of each engine. The std gear set is different for each of the tested engines. I believe they said each one did have the std gear set. So the engineers figured out what should be equal based on the radically different power delivery of the 2.7 turbo compared to the 5.0 n/a.

@@ForTehNguyen Agreed. The 10spds negate much of a difference.

Jeff Talbot obviously the guy in the 3.5 had it in eco and wasn’t stepping on it. Keep dreaming though bud.

Edmunds already did it (for 2 2015 models anyway), the 2.7 got .2 mpg more than the V8, but it was worse than EPA number, while the V8 was over 2mpg BETTER than it's EPA number.

@justin Ha, you believe everything on the internet don’t you? A car value business like Edmunds and you take that info they spew as gospel 🤑

Martimus98 it will get worse

never pay sticker.

@@paulrodrigues9603 Lol really? I had no idea

Lol. The current 5.0 isn’t anymore reliable then either ecoboosts.

They really screwed up the 5.0 with the 2018 changes. I have a 2015 with the 5.0 and love it but I would honestly get the 2.7 with the port and direct injection generation. I think it’s the better motor now until they fix the issues they created with the 5.0

I’ve heard about oil issues and a few small things. Are there other problems with the 2018 5.0. All I heard when they released the 2018 model 5.0 was that they added port and direct injection to avoid gumming up the intake. Do you know of any other changes?

Honestly the 2.7 is by far their most reliable motor. The second gen (2017+) 3.5 is a lot more reliable than the first. Then you've got the 5.0 which went backwards big time. They drink oil almost at the same rate as they do gas. Do a search and you'll see tons and tons and tons of 2018+ 5.0's that are using a quart of oil every 800-1,000 miles which is horrendous.

And why do so many ignorant ass people talk about the 5.0 being simple?? Do you stupid assholes even realize it's NOTHING at all the same as the old Windsor based 5.0 (302)!? This thing has massive twin cam, four valve per cylinder heads, dual fuel injection (8 port injectors and 8 direct injectors), variable valve timing and loads and loads of other, very high tech items. Hell these things in the mustangs (and a truck with a good tuner) wind out to over 7,000 rpm's stock! Do you realize what would happen to the old crappy ass Windsor based 5.0 of you wound it out to 7,000 rpm's? Lol hell those motors were well known to crack the block into two pieces at 500hp which luckily took a good bit of work to get that. These new coyote 5.0's run 1,000 hp on the stock block all day long.

Lots of factors will affect fuel mileage, number one is your foot. But other factors include bad/cheap fuel, dirty air filter, dirty maf sensor, dirty pvc, dirty truck (believe it or not), clogged catalytic converter, worn out spark plugs, clogged O2 sensors, worn out/underinflated tires, not following Ford's recommendation on scheduled service like rear end oil, transfer case oil, transmission service, wrong viscosity/cheap engine oil, and driving for thousands of miles with the engine light on. Your truck will only treat you as well as you treat it. Gas and 1 oil change in 100,000 miles and she'll run forever, right?

I take good care of my truck. I’ve had a lot of misfire issues. I have to change plugs/coils out every 8-10,000 miles. I don’t drive it hard either because I don’t like spending $100 to fill up my tank every week. I’ve been having engine issues since approx 47,000 miles. The mis fire issue is wide spread from first gen 3.5 EB and 2nd gen motors...Ford probably knows why these motors do it but it’s probably going to cost them millions if they went to a recall...their service bulletin they have for the problem is a band aid, not the solution....bottom line, I will never buy another Ecoboost and if that’s the only thing they have left when I go to replace my truck, then I won’t buy a Ford.

@Cobra Black diesels are a completely different animal

@Cobra Black well, because it's a diesel. More potential energy in diesel than gasoline. As for longer lasting and durability, diesels are built much stronger than a comparable gasoline engine. You can't compare a turbo gasoline engine to a turbo diesel engine.

What's more costs to own the turbos? The maintenance is the same. It's only $1500 to replace both turbos when they do decide to poop out.

@@genek121973 2.7 uses same block material as a diesel.

@@genek121973 I don't think it is well known that the 2.7 is a compacted graphic iron block, same material is used on the 6.7 powerstroke. The internals of the engine have been beefed up as well for turbo duty, however; the reason, at least historically, diesel turbos last longer is they spin at lower RPMs. Diesel's produce more exhaust and intern can push more air with less RPMs.

The difference between 65 and 75 in my V-10 F-250 is as much as 4 MPG depending on what you're towing, if you keep it down to 65 it'll do double-digit fuel economy pulling 10K+ pounds.

Could be the 3.5 doesn’t need as much boost under towing conditions.

Remember, they were towing at 70. That 10 mph difference is huge and likely the reason for your much better numbers. I would love to see them do their loop twice with a truck one day at both 60 and 70 to see their real world difference.

James Beaman ah I see. Big difference in drag at those speeds

It was the elevation that gave the 5.0 better mpg. Less air = less fuel

@@Theredeemedchild2 That might be true if they were testing at full throttle but not when traveling at the same speed. At any given speed the trucks are overcoming about the same wind resistance and friction and thus need to burn about the same amount of fuel and thus mix it with about the same amount of air.

Yep, agreed.

@@sonictech1000 That's not true. That truck wont be making the same power at any given rpm as at sea level due to less air and thus less fuel.

@@Theredeemedchild2 And the driver will open up the throttle more which allows more air in at any given rpm resulting in the same amount of air, fuel, and power.

LEGO TIME I agree! But not sure they want us to have a easy 700 horse to the wheels on a mere 8-10 pounds of boost. Plus they would be forced to address their coyote engine breaking issues with a fully forged bad ass motor.

No, you yahoos need to educate yourselves to understand that a V8 does not equal fast.

That will never happen.

Won't harm them

Good, you saw that too

Yes. The 5.0 is a good all around engine but the old 5.4 was better suited for towing. It made 80% of its torque around 2700 rpm and peak torque at 3250. Hit for hit, the 5.4 generates more power than a 5.0 till 4200 rpm. Unfortunately, people think that because it's a V8 it has to be fast, and that is one of the loudest complaints about the 5.4, it's slow. But people don't take the time to learn how it can be so powerful and still feel slow. It's easier to just piss and moan in ignorance, I guess.

Seems like they tune the 5.0 to such a high RPM to make the Ecoboosts look better then.

@@stuffjunk5019 That's not how it's tuned, it's how it's designed. The 5.0 was designed with the Mustang in mind, not the F150. All a 5.0 is is a bored over 4.6, and that was designed for the Mustang as well.

@stuff Having 400lbft of torque down low like in the 2.7 is what a truck is sposed to have to pull loads with. The 5.0 has to spool up to 4000 rpm to reach that torque , It’s an engine from a car...

@@paulhunter9613 One issue with the 2.7 people have found is the stock intercooler won't cut it if you want to tow a lot, i actually just upgraded mine the other day. I can tell a difference on long trips and such, feels like it retains it power for the duration.

What sound does it make as a EcoBoost smokes it in a 1/4 mile?

@@Steven-gv1ke lol. It's a big as truck. Doesn't need to be fast. BUT if I want it to be fast I'll throw a supercharger on it and make 600plus hp all day.

So...turbo is quicker. Esp. 3.5 stomps 5.0

@@BigEightiesNewWave so? 5.0L sounds way better. IMO.

exactly, the 5.0 has a lot of room to grow and is respectable stock

Not asking for much, huh?

get the ecoeight problem solved just kidding

In 2022, Would you still take the 5.0 or 3.5 Liter Ecoboost? I'm looking to get a new truck to replace my 2011 3.5 Liter Ecoboost. I do have a camper travel trailer fully loaded with water that is about 6800 lbs

Yeah, I’d go for the ecoboost for the low end torque and if you travel out west it’s nice to have those turbos in thinner air when you’re at a higher elevation. Recently had a Silverado with the 6.2 and 10 speed and towed from UT to GA and I’d say the Ecoboost felt stronger than even the 6.2.

@@jonasbennett9237 Thanks for your input. So far I'm leaning that way

or a dampened tailgate

James L then don’t get it.

@@ALMX5DP Kind of difficult. Seems they all come with them at the dealers where I live. It's like trying to find a 6.5' bed with the super crew. Very rare.

@@kmeekins4168 Or a 5' bed.

James L might be kind of difficult, but not worth complaining about as it’s still out there or orderable. In the era of internet shopping, I’m sure you can find something within a reasonable distance if you are serious about purchasing. Either that or negotiate with the dealer to remove them.

It pulled way better...

More power, more usable power. How does it perform less?

Expensive v6 that costs less than the V8?

@@AK_Ray Yes.

The issue with the 6.2 though is that it pretty much requires (recommended per the manual - else it may ping/knock is what it says in my Yukon Denali's manual) premium (93 octane) fuel to get the best mileage and power and that's not the case with these Ford engines or even the rest of GM's truck engines. With the average fuel cost increase of around 60 cents more per gallon over regular (87 octane) fuel, that more than negates any potential MPG improvement on the 6.2. I don't know why TFL never even mentions that in any of their comparisons with the 6.2 from what I've seen anyways and I've seen pretty much all of their vids the past few years.

@@sugonmaballs I thought "most" force inducted motors suggest high octane as well

@@russellrogers3260 Some do, some don't. None of Ford's Ecoboosts engines (except maybe their HO 3.5 in the Raptor or GT) recommend or require it though for their power and/or mileage ratings though, whereas that's not the case on the 6.2L either. The premium fuel requirement is usually on higher compression engines regardless of how they're aspirated.

@@sugonmaballs Untrue. Ford specifies that premium fuel is used to attain the rated HP/torque numbers on the Ecoboost, and recommends it for maximum performance. That said, if I know I'm not going to be towing for most or all of a tank, I generally run mid-grade through mine. I tow a 7k-lb trailer and like to go to the mountains... even for normal towing, you'd probably never notice the difference from being down a few horsepower but it would reduce your available power somewhat to burn lower-octane fuel under heavy load.

@@dkbgeek actually Ford does recommend 87, and nothing more to get the numbers they advertise

The 2.7 will still show its tail lamps to the five oh, it can be at the top of the tallest mountain, Or even Death Valley

No excuses just no replacement for displacement

Turd Ferguson I wonder how much more the limited is 😂

Finn Campeau Seen one on sale for 78k in ohio. It’s insane

Ben Stone i know. It’s unreal. I live and Canada so it’s probably pushing 100K

When I'm not towing that trailer I average 17 mpg us.

That is a lot of trailer. Unless it was empty it wouldn't surprise me to discover it was overweight for that truck.

@@kingdaniel3519 Its a heated/AC trailer. Other than that, I had a 700 lb item on a pallet near the front.

@@Leggir So basically empty. Still though, that's a lot of trailer for the 2.7.

@@kingdaniel3519 Too much actually. I'd rather a 1-ton dually. Taking the same demo 900 miles tomorrow, but renting a 14'x7' trailer instead.

Because a ton of people wanted this match up due to the power numbers

It may have done better, or worse, but I agree that the results would be interesting. Of course a twin turbo 5.0 would spank everything and like Nathan you would not care what the MPG was.

Exactly. Ford pits the 5.0 vs the 2.7. having driven then back to back tells me they are correct. The 3.5 is poised above these two engines.

The 3.5L has almost the same mileage as the V8

No

The Ecoboosts are funny in that they WILL run on regular (which is cheaper), but they get higher mpg on premium. Optimum power (for towing) is achieved on premium. I run regular in mine most of the time except when towing long distances.

Ford recommends premium for all their engines when towing . And it doesn’t make that much more pwr when you do