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2015-2017 ford f150 2.7 heavy smoke on start up, we replace the oil feed tube to the driver side turbo relating to tsb 19-2188.
Oil tube FU7Z-9T516-A
Stud W716383-5437
Nut W714870_9430
Issue: Some 2015-2017 F-150 vehicles equipped with a 2.7L EcoBoost engine may exhibit excessive white or blue
smoke from the exhaust at start up after a cold soak. This may be due to oil entering the left hand turbocharger turbine housing. To correct the condition, follow the Service Procedure steps to replace the left hand turbocharger oil supply tube with a revised part.
Action: Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition on vehicles that meet all of the following criteria:
• 2015-2017 F-150
• 2.7L EcoBoost engine
• Customer concern of excessive white or blue smoke from the exnaust at start uo after a cold soak.
Service Procedure
1. Does the customer concern include oil consumption, drivability symptoms, or any other concern along with smoke
from the exnaust?
(1). Yes - this'article does not apply. Refer to the Powertrain Control/Emissions Diagnostic (PC/ED) Manual for
normal diagnosis.
(2). No - proceed to Step 2.
2. Replace the left hand turbocharger oil supply tube. Refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 303-04E.

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@cessealbeach Год назад

Got the same engine 2016 2.7 with 176K miles, original turbos, from day one catch can, BOV, Bigger inner cooler , Synthetic oil every 5K miles, on my second battery, spark plugs and a set of coils, Love this Truck, have towed 7K lbs to 9k Miles

@swrvtech Год назад

That’s awesome to hear for sure, hope this one lives forever

@johnhanson4795 Год назад

we have a 2016 ford f 150 in body shop now and i remember everyone saying back in 2014.heck them wont last them silly aluminium trucks.we have a 2016 silverado with half the miles on it the body is rusted bad.the ford body still looks new yet

@jamessloop6765 Год назад

@@swrvtech I purchased a 2018 F150 2.7 last and just recently got the p0430 don't know why but wouldn't it be covered,thanks

@swrvtech Год назад

A 0430 would be the passenger side if I’m not mistaken and that might be from a different issue, it would need to be further diagnosed. Also for the 18 model year it might have other tsbs.

@lennyfinckbone9052 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for the video, I just did mine yesterday. Wasn't sure the torque on the stud and bolt. Your video made it to where I got the job done.

@ramonalfonso461 9 месяцев назад

Great video and thanks for sharing. My truck just started smoking. 2016 w/125k miles. I was hoping it wasn’t an issue with the heads after reading horror stories about them cracking and antifreeze leaking out. But haven’t seen my coolant get low. Gonna hurry up and swap that oil line before my cats go to. Thanks again!

@jgxx88 Год назад

Great video. Need to do this before my cats go out. You did a great job of explaining. You’re a natural at this and you definitely did not talk too much. Great great guide.

@swrvtech Год назад

Thank you I greatly appreciate it and glad it helped!

@danlevecque7203 Год назад

Excellent video! great camera work and instructions.

@swrvtech Год назад

Thank you we appreciate it and glad it’s helpful!

@loyddinneen2294 Год назад

I have a 2016 f150 and smokes on startup so I will be taking it to ford to be fixed as I have a extended warranty, in my younger years I would of tackled this repair as it doesn't seem to be that hard just alot of taking stuff off that's in the way. You make it look easy and very instructive. I only have 101k on my truck and it looks like new inside and out my last driver is a 1994 f150 with 225k on it and have had hardly any issues with the 5.8 and the truck itself. Ford just makes them better.

@swrvtech Год назад

I also have a warranty but they tell me nothing is covered so it was all off pocket is why I did it myself, I hope they fix yours for you!

@Campenfamshorts Год назад

One of the bets DIY ever thankyou

@swrvtech Год назад

We appreciate it thank you!

@gustavoperez4813 6 месяцев назад

100 Ford this video the best of the best,,slow,clear tip by tip in perfect order,you are a super professional man,thankssssddd

@swrvtech 6 месяцев назад

Thank you we appreciate it!

@miguelzuniga2112 3 месяца назад

Nice video. Helped me a lot thanks!

@stephencuddihy2019 7 месяцев назад

i have a 2016 f150 with the 2.7 and mine has 43k on it currently. its been in the shop since september. took the truck into the dealer for this same problem and was told the cylinder walls were scored and badly damaged. dealer replaced the engine and turbos under warranty. pick up the truck up on a friday after the new engine was installed and end up returning it back to the dealer the very next day after less than 100 miles because the new engine spun a cam on the driver side cylinder head. now ive been in a dealership rental since october waiting on an engine. i love my truck and this is a great video i just wish this was my problem instead of the engine dying at 43k.

@swrvtech 7 месяцев назад

I sure hope they get it all resolved, sounds like such a headache really, but by the subs of it they will for sure get it all resolved.

@calipat12 5 месяцев назад

My ford dealer in el centr California said he didn’t know what the problem was after I explained that it smokes like the fire department just came and put out a fire service manager asked me to let him know what it was when I find out what the issue was . Thats why I became a gmc truck owner suuuubbbbaaammm !

@snoops606 Год назад

Thanks that I bought the 3.3

@pedrojimenez2039 Год назад

Well, that's a Dog

@raymondmcgravey9750 9 месяцев назад

Have a 2020 2.7 crew cab 9,500mils love my truck

@chrisfit 11 месяцев назад

Great video thanks!

@swrvtech 11 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@Av8r6o4 Год назад

Great video! Mine puffs smoke so bad during the cold months it looks like my front lot is on fire some mornings. Truck runs great, no loss of anything. Cheap enough part, I will be attempting this to see if It fixes it.

@swrvtech Год назад

That sounds like condensation honestly, if no check engine light for catalytic converter efficiency, I’d save your money.

@Av8r6o4 Год назад

@@swrvtech Thanks for the reply. I'm certain it's just condensation too, cause after about 5-10mins it's gone. Summer days theres a puff of white smoke and that's it. It's a 2017, so I figure i'd just do a quick 1-2 on it anyway. $300 for fluids and this part/stud doesn't sound bad. What did you clean your rad out with?

@swrvtech Год назад

@@Av8r6o4 if you have a check engine light I’d do it but definitely can’t hurt anything by replacing it and some degreaser and water then hitting it with the leaf blower and then letting it sit in the sun standing up to get any residual water out

@aaroncash8596 Год назад

I have a 2017 and switched to synthetic oil and have never had a problem with smoke again. Also have 132,000 miles

@swrvtech Год назад

That’s weird, not sure what effects the oil would would cause it to not allow it to make its way to be burnt

@OnePointLander Год назад

Did you change to high mileage full synthetic by any chance?

@swrvtech Год назад

Now yes since it’s just over 140k miles

@sylc6688 Месяц назад

I'm doing this right now and I didn't need to remove the fender liner and the stud and nut, with the right tool there is enough room to remove the oil tube.

@OnePointLander Год назад

Nice totem poles

@georgebregar1507 4 месяца назад

One of your part numbers are wrong. Nut W714870_9430 should be Nut W714870-S430. This comes directly of FORDTSB 19-2188. Great video! Thanks

@johnhanson4795 Год назад

i have the 2021 2.7 totally differnt now but thats crazy.so far i got the windshield wiper motor that suddnly stops working letter.ive never had a issue even with 4 inches of ice and snow on it the doors freezing shut rear door latch problem.never had a issue ect ect.i remember buying a brand new fancy black z71 silverado in 2001 that thing from the time i got it home 2 weeks later it puffed smoke out ehaust after cold start i took it in multipile times to dealer they just told me thats the way the 5.3s are.i ran that truck till 150,000 so maybe it wsnt a bigdeal

@swrvtech Год назад

I’m sure they’ve learned and updated parts as the years go by as this one was an updated part with a full tsb. No vehicle should use oil really and I always try to find the root issue that’s causing the effects. Hope the 21 last forever for you

@OnePointLander Год назад

Did you drill holes in your intercooler? Is a catch can still needed if you use the updated TSB oil feed line? Thank you for this video.

@swrvtech Год назад

No that’s not good to do in my opinion as it will be a small boost leak, catch cans never hurt to have either but it’s some what of a bandaid to mask an underlying issue. I do not have a catch can and everything is good now still and it has 141xxx miles now

@markmasangya3936 Год назад

you could also take off the front whls to get closer .

@swrvtech 11 месяцев назад

I found it easy enough and saves time leaving it on, a lift would make it very easy too.

@JKZ103 Год назад

Put a catch can on it and it will trap most of the oil. I use one on my 3.5 after upgrading the intercooler and charge pipe to keep them clean and after 1 year no oil at all from pcv system.

@swrvtech Год назад

I might one day but this was a known issue so it should be resolved now

@frankscott8555 Год назад

My 2017 f150 did this and it made oil. No coolant loss. Smokes everytime it sits on cold start. Multiple visits to ford. They did nothing. I got rid of it and got the 5.0. No more problems. Bottom line is turbos sucks for reliability daily driving.

@swrvtech Год назад

It made oil?

@Moonpie123 10 месяцев назад

About to do this on my 2017 2.7. The smoke has been pretty bad from my truck and I’m at 125k. How do you find the torque rating for that stud? Or where could I look it up? Thanks, I enjoyed the video and I’m sure I’ll be back again once the parts come in.

@swrvtech 10 месяцев назад

I’m glad it is helpful! For the stud I’m seeing 18ft pounds and 13ft pounds for the oil line fittings. ford-specs.com/cars/2020/f1502.7/torque-specs_engine.php

@hectorangel3969 Год назад

where did you buy the oil tube from? my local O’Reillys couldn’t get one for me

@swrvtech Год назад

The dealership had them in stock

@VHP7044 Год назад

What is the difference between the old turbo supply line and the new one? I assume there is a check valve to prevent oil from free flowing into the turbo upon shutdown. Please clarify. Good Post by the Way!

@swrvtech Год назад

I thought that but there are no visible differences to the eye, it might be a different orifice size maybe. I’ll try and research more into what might be the difference

@VHP7044 Год назад

@@swrvtech I work on large industrial gas fueled engines and our engines are equipped with a 5 psi check valve in the turbo oil supply line. This prevents oil from flooding the turbocharger during pre-lube when the seals are most likely to leak oil into the engine. I had a 2015 2.7 ecoboost that had the same problem with smoke on start up. The dealer replaced one of the turbochargers under warranty. I do not remember which one and I always questioned if they really fixed the problem.

@swrvtech Год назад

That’s the fix for the bmw issues as well and what I was expecting to see when I got the new line

@lillandonn007 8 месяцев назад

hey man i was wondering if that part number was the same for a 2018 f150 because i saw no video on a 2018 explaining this but never gave a part number on the updated part

@swrvtech 8 месяцев назад

I would check on the tsb with your dealer to be sure, I know different years it could also be the heads that is the issue.

@marcosantonioramoncaliz5459 Год назад

I have the same problem in my ford 16 f150 2.7, how can i be sure that this is problem and not the head gasket, or the valve seals??

@swrvtech Год назад

Is it drinking coolant? And valve seals it would smoke all the time

@sebastianescanio Год назад

Why did you remove the turbo mounting points is it really necessary?

@swrvtech Год назад

Yes it is to be able to remove the mounting bolt for the oil line

@bradpiff04 9 месяцев назад

I have a 2016 that I performed the fix, I didn’t clean out the residual. Will it still let out blue smoke on cold start until it has all burned off?

@swrvtech 9 месяцев назад

It’s a good possibility it will if it sucks in the oil, but the chance of that might be slim depending on how much oil is left in everything.

@spidusp 6 месяцев назад

Got a question what’s the stud for there? And is there way to keep the stud in and just go arround it to unscrew that bolt?

@swrvtech 6 месяцев назад

The stud has to be removed for the bolt to come out, and the stud is for the exhaust manifold.

@martiam451 Год назад

Quick question, I have the exact same truck with the same problem. Is removing the charge pipe and cooler necessary? does it NEED to be cleaned out or can I just replace the line and prevent more buildup.

@swrvtech Год назад

It needs to be cleaned so once you replace the failed cats you don’t have more oil getting burned and going through them

@lennyfinckbone9052 10 месяцев назад

Where did you get your parts from?

@swrvtech 10 месяцев назад

@lennyfinckbone9052 from my local dealership they had them in stock

@lorenzoochoa6826 Месяц назад

I did the tsb twice once díy then the dealer. Still smokes. Took it back to dealer they couldn't figure it. They said might be the catch cans leaking. Next step is to clean the throttle. Switch to 5w40 oil. Last resort to swap the turbo

@swrvtech Месяц назад

Did you clean out the charge pipe and intercooler? Switching to thicker oil is a bad idea as all the oil orifice are designed for 5w30 I believe.

@renatoelchino Год назад

I have a F150 2017 2.7 it started to smoke around 45k miles at the beginning only at start up in the morning and then at 69k miles started to smoke alot I ended up replacing both turbos $850 each turbo. I am disappointed ford trucks needs repair very often.

@johnhanson4795 Год назад

ford was aware of that.the 2021s they changed that cause people where complaining.if you do youtube.check out ford boss channel.hes a veteran ford mechanic and if you comment he will get back to you

@swrvtech Год назад

Based on the tsbs and my research the heavy smoke on start up for the 2.7s in 2017 was cylinder heads and the turbo feed line, they probably replaced the line when they replaced the turbo as well

@daniilmisiruk7928 Год назад

I also have this problem truck 2016 year when it’s cold it smoke that comes out it’s white I think that it could be that head gasket or it might me the turbo

@daniilmisiruk7928 Год назад

Thank you

@swrvtech Год назад

You could do a coolant pressure check or do diagnostics to see how the o2 sensors are reading or if there’s any codes as well.

@EvenSteven_909 3 месяца назад

Hey man I did this and it still smokes a little, I never cleaned out the residual oil in the inter cooler or pipes. Do you think if I did that it would stop completely? How did you clean it all?

@swrvtech 3 месяца назад

I would suggest cleaning them for sure at least it will give you piece of mind. I would spray some purple power or degreaser in them and let them air dry and maybe even blow air through it to make sure all water and moisture is out.

@davidhuster6416 Год назад

How did you know it was the driver side turbo line?

@swrvtech Год назад

From the tsb, it should be in the description but when I was at the dealer they pulled up all heavy smoke tsb and there were only 2, one being cylinder heads but my truck didn’t fit into the made date and the other one was driver side turbo feed line. I talked to a master bmw tech and he said they have the same issues with a turbo oil feed line as well so I went with it and so far so good with the new cats and everything cleaned out

@jacobhammmock8506 Месяц назад

Why do you need to replace the stud and the nut? Will these part numbers work for a 2016?

@swrvtech Месяц назад

I’m not sure the 2016 falls into the tsb but the nut is a stove nut so it’s a one time use and the stud I’m not sure, I just followed directions honestly.

@volkman707 Год назад

I have exactly the same problem, so is not necessary to remplace the turbo??

@swrvtech Год назад

If the turbo has excessive shaft play in and out or up and down then yes but there is a full tsb on this and it worked for me.

@bears893 Год назад

It looks exactly the same, do they just go bad or is it a new design thats hard to notice?

@swrvtech Год назад

It’s an updated piece, I’m guessing a different orifice size internally.

@jeremycappert8906 10 месяцев назад

Did this successfully fix the blue smoke on startup issue for you?

@swrvtech 10 месяцев назад

Yes it sure did! 152k miles now and still going good

@brianrivera1026 8 месяцев назад

Does anyone know the part number for the oil line and the stud

@swrvtech 8 месяцев назад

It is in the top of the description as well as the full tsb

@slowgan325 Год назад

Had any transmission issues? Thinking about buying one of these soon

@swrvtech Год назад

Torque converter shudder is all, but Every ford I know with 100k plus miles also shudders lol new convertor, fluid, and filter and it’ll be good to go. The shop that did the work, under warranty, on my wife’s expedition said they have never rebuilt one and they’re bulletproof

@jimfinger4418 Год назад

At 70k miles on my 16 2.7 I had to replace the lead frame connector and valvebody in my 6r80

@joecanedo5897 Год назад

@@jimfinger4418 you

@mynameisnobody5838 Год назад

Did you throw any codes again after you changed it? Or the changing that pipe stop tot?

@swrvtech Год назад

No code since replacing the oil feed tube and the cats! Had 146k on it now

@mynameisnobody5838 Год назад

@@swrvtech My 2016 f150 3.5 is throwing the same codes but I know it’s not my cats because I just put all new exhaust on it from the down pipe all the way out because I originally thought they were the problem had the codes cleared after new exhaust and they’re back I was just getting ready to put new o2 sensors in when I found your video. And on a side note my truck was smoking pretty bad for about a week whenever I would go to pass someone or accelerate quick but it has since stopped so I’m thinking it might be time to change my oil feed.

@swrvtech Год назад

The 3.5 might have a different issue honestly, this is a known tsb for the 2.7s only. I would check your your turbo air inlet pipes as well as the charge pipes for oil, it could also be pushing oil out of the exhaust side. I haven’t dug into the 3.5s smoking

@borla100 Год назад

Hi did put out more white smoke when ever you went over 3000rpm

@swrvtech Год назад

Only on cold starts, if you have smoke when warm or revving you potentially have other issues.

@davidalvarez3929 9 месяцев назад

Did the smoke stop right after new oil feed line or did it take a few days to stop?

@swrvtech 9 месяцев назад

It stopped right after since each time I drove it it burns the residual oil

@peiguy1982 Год назад

Well good way to get your core and back workout in. All this rolling the F around in the driveway. Trust me I know from experience. I think I'd rather do wheel bearings and exhaust manifolds than all this turbo shit though. Good working room on that engine once you got all the piping out of the way.

@swrvtech Год назад

Yes my back was feeling it after I finished the plugs lol

@eanwalton 17 дней назад

Do you need to prime the oil line at all before startup?

@swrvtech 17 дней назад

No need to, also no way to do so since the oil pump is belt driven off of the crank shaft. Just make sure to put a dab of oil on fittings before going in so the oil rings don’t tear.

@jaymay6365 4 месяца назад

I successfully fixed this issue last year, but I’m starting to notice it resurfacing gradually again after a year. Any thoughts on what might be going wrong?

@swrvtech 4 месяца назад

What year is your truck?

@Frenchfryguy1 Месяц назад

What oil do you use?

@jaymay6365 28 дней назад

@@Frenchfryguy1 It's a 2017 model. I had been using the Motorcraft oil recommended by Ford, but I switched to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, and the issue disappeared immediately after the change.

@nourkurdi4008 Год назад

I have the same problem with my F-150 2012 ecoboost... Does this fix it?

@swrvtech Год назад

2012 should be the 3.5 ecoboost, if I had to guess I think it would be the seas on the turbo

@nourkurdi4008 Год назад

@@swrvtech Thank you brother

@swrvtech Год назад

You’re welcome!

@swrvtech Год назад

You’re welcome

@pkoutdoors8112 Год назад

Where did your buy the new tube? Is it a dealer only item?

@swrvtech Год назад

I bought it from the dealer but you could get the part number and check online for it. In my case they had everything in stock so I just picked it all up

@pkoutdoors8112 Год назад

@swrvtech the thing about the dealer is the markup. A lot of times, they charge more than a parts store for the same part. I'll see what I can find at my local store. Thanks for the video and the response.

@swrvtech Год назад

I totally get that for sure, and not a problem at all I hope it helps!

@chrisfit 11 месяцев назад

Did this fix the problem in the long run?

@swrvtech 11 месяцев назад

We’re at 150k miles now and still no smoke.

@Davidps13 20 дней назад

Do the stud and nut need torquing?

@swrvtech 20 дней назад

Studs usually get snug then you torque the nut. I can’t remember the spec right off hand though

@sbesic8903 5 месяцев назад

Good job,did you actually fix the issue?does it consume oil between changes?smoking?

@swrvtech 5 месяцев назад

Yes it has fully fixed the issue and I’m not sure I have a ship change my oil to be honest, but yes it does not smoke any more

@JASONHN 3 месяца назад

So isn't smoke normal in a cold start?

@swrvtech 3 месяца назад

If it’s moisture from condensation yes, it’s it’s a bunch of oil no.

@bradenarnold5809 Год назад

Dis the coolant leak before this?

@swrvtech Год назад

It’s never leaked coolant or oil, the oil got pushed through the turbo and out the seals into the exhaust

@tylerdavis2492 Год назад

I have a 15 with the 2.7l. I installed jlt catch can from day 1 and only run Full Syn RP oil. Has 94k on it never had an issue. Is this issue for higher miles?

@swrvtech Год назад

It’s a known issue, I got the truck with almost 100k miles and it already had the issue. In the tsb it shows certain build dates that are known to be effected as well.

@krazykajun9692 2 месяца назад

@@swrvtechwhere can I find the TSB?

@swrvtech 2 месяца назад

@krazykajun9692 static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2019/MC-10163553-0001.pdf

@kristiandeluna6009 5 месяцев назад

Did you use the door man or the actual ford brand part ?

@swrvtech 5 месяцев назад

Oem ford from dealership

@kristiandeluna6009 5 месяцев назад

Thank you.

@kristiandeluna6009 5 месяцев назад

Has it came back ever since the change?

@swrvtech 5 месяцев назад

@@kristiandeluna6009 it has not

@sherrylwalker9344 8 месяцев назад

2017 F150 2nd time in Ford for the white smoke.... they replace LH turbo oil supply line one year apart. I only have 1yr warranty left. 46k miles. Is this what i need to get someone do? Female....i cant do this

@swrvtech 8 месяцев назад

If they replaced it with the updated one, I’m assuming they did, then the problem may be turbo seals or something with the engine, that’s also assuming they cleaned all the charge pipes off oil. Also the catalytic converters fail when oil soaked.

@sherrylwalker9344 8 месяцев назад

@swrvtech They said there is "special bulletin" on this but didn't elaborate. Both times it says Tube ASY, gasket, stud & nut replaced. I mentioned maybe they should look for the root of the cause but they blew me off. It did it the 2nd time after only 3k miles. Don't drive it alot. I'm worried about when the warranty runs out

@sherrylwalker9344 8 месяцев назад

@@swrvtech So should I raise a fuss if it returns again & demand they go further to fix it?

@swrvtech 8 месяцев назад

I put the part number in the description that showed the most up to date part number at the time I made this video, and I always look for the root cause myself but not everyone might.

@sherrylwalker9344 8 месяцев назад

@@swrvtechThanks. Water is still sitting in the tailpipe & dripping. I don't see this on other trucks. Is that another problem?

@axelsworld1897 3 месяца назад

Saved me alot of time and money SWRVTech, thank you! Anyone watching, get the replacement tube as soon as possible. I waited a few months and the price went up $75 online, and double at the dealer. Probably doesn't help the problem is becoming more common as the trucks age...

@swrvtech 3 месяца назад

You’re welcome and that is crazy to think it went up that much but like you said the demand is going up.

@tonyf1228 7 месяцев назад

Been there . Sold it

@swrvtech 7 месяцев назад

Cheaper to fix than buy a new truck in the long run

@Friedrich-Wilhelm-1980 9 месяцев назад

first things first DISCONNECT the battery!!! on there newer units unplugging things with power on can make weird and bad things happen

@jayg9732 Год назад

I have the same issue 17 f150 133k no issues aside from the smoke on start up . Someone said if you change to 5 40 smoke goes away, he’s been running it for 2 years now no issues problem gone

@swrvtech Год назад

That is a way thicker oil which would starve bearings, to each there own but I like to address the issue in stead of band aiding it

@jayg9732 Год назад

@@swrvtech did ur issue go away ? I got to fix this issue

@swrvtech Год назад

Yes it did, the cats fail with oil going through them so that’s why I got the full spd performance exhaust and new o2 sensors and it’s been great since

@jayg9732 Год назад

@@swrvtech oh ok thx for the quick reply! Am surprised my cats are still ok I’ve had the issue for like 2 years

@swrvtech Год назад

@@jayg9732 no problem, and if your exhaust has a sulfur smell then they are failing

@Frenchfryguy1 10 месяцев назад

What’s the part name?

@swrvtech 10 месяцев назад

It’s the turbo oil supply line

@aleclush7403 9 месяцев назад

Hey, just curious but when I look up the part number I find some for 50 bucks and others 150. How do I know if I bought the updated one or the original line? Would you be able to link the exact one you got so I know it’s the right one

@swrvtech 9 месяцев назад

@aleclush7403 the part number in the description is what we bought from the dealership, I don’t remember how much it was though.