2018-2020 Ford F-150 2.7L Ecoboost: Blue Smoke Upon Startup Confirmed Fix!

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In this video we show you how easy it is to fix a blue smoke upon startup concern on the 2018-2020 2.7L Ecoboost Engines. TSB 20-2207
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@austinnodohara3199 Год назад

My 2019 2.7 (23,500 miles) had the blue smoke after a cold start when I parked at a slight uphill. I took the Ford TSB to the dealer and they ordered the part and fixed it. No more blue smoke. 😄

@OnePointLander Год назад

Will they do this for free out of warranty?

@ryanstonecipher7182 6 месяцев назад

Nope they won't. I've been fighting them all week

@ryanstonecipher7182 6 месяцев назад

I've got a 2019 2.7 , booked appointment 3 weeks ago and I just rolled over 60k miles. Appointment is tomorrow. I called and they said nope it's out of warranty. They won't touch it without me getting my wallet out.

@alangates5941 5 месяцев назад

Can you tell me if the gen 2 2.7L ecoboost has this issue? Mine is a 2019 XLT.

@mr.selfdestruct1677 Год назад

Keep up with the videos even if they're short ! Love your content. 👍

@xoxo2008oxox Год назад

Brian, as always, spot on repair and great lighting/video demonstration of the location, and what's needed to do the correct fix!

@JJHDZ68 Год назад

I do not own a truck but I really appreciate your time and help to the truckers community. God bless you and yours 🙏

@randylahey1232 Год назад

Brand new truck already in the shop I love it!

@josephmorrone2660 Год назад

Brian Always looking forward to seeing your next presentation !

@sacju6517 Год назад

I took my 2019 in last week to the Dealer for the blue smoke problem. They mentioned that TSB for it and have the tube on order. I'm hoping it fixes it as well. Thanks for posting this!

@ThirdCoastElectronics Год назад

awesome thank you. mine started doing it around 20k miles. Not every morning, but enough to cause concern.

@michaelmurray121 Год назад

Wow Brian a simple tube get the job done have a great day bro. Blessings always…

@michaelwynne3214 Год назад

Hey man thanks! I got mine fixed under warranty at 59,700 miles. Just 300 miles under the powertrain warranty. I love the videos. If you are out of your powertrain the parts cost about $150-200 dollars, and a few hours labor.

@moose2934 Год назад

I’m having this issue with my 2016 Expedition (it’s the 2014-style F150 EcoBoost engine)… and my dealership said that it was normal 2x - but I can SMELL the richness of the oil in my exhaust… thanks Ford

@cinthiawing8854 Год назад

You were highly recommended on Reddit. I have subscribed.

@keyoke69 Год назад

Thanks for the video. Im going to check my 2020 in the morning.

@anthonywheeler6133 Год назад

The 2019 I leased, did it. I returned the lease when they had a vehicle shortage without any penalty. I lost my job while the height of covid and it helped save a little money monthly.

@hakz1nunke Год назад

I'll add, for those that might be looking for smoke from their trucks, the blue smoke is definitely oil and I've seen this repair work many times. All of these trucks do smoke white several seconds after startup, like seen in the video, as a normal condition. We had to chase the white smoke for a customer several times before ford responded to us, saying the trucks are programmed to heat the catalytic converters shortly after starting, in order to remove built up condensation. Many people confuse this as an oil or coolant burning issue.

@FordTechMakuloco Год назад

Yup you can see it is more of a steam and not a thicker white smoke from coolant or fuel.

@colinc1633 Год назад

My girlfriend is strongly considering a 2.7 with about 50,000 miles on it. Are y’all saying that this blue smoke thing is not a problem? I ask because she has had absolutely horrible luck with cars in the past two years. She got a little over 24,000 miles out of the 2017 1 L turbo Ford focus we got her a year ago and it just seized from engine knock (after getting the oil light on the dash the day before) the other day (91K miles) straight off the oil change rack. Needless to say after all the money I dumped into the car, I am scarred and skeptical about turbo charged gas engines. If she gets the truck, and this is an issue that needs to be addressed, I want to address it asap. Please let me know what y’all think. Thank you!

@hakz1nunke Год назад

@@colinc1633 the 1.0 ecoboost in the focus was a throw away engine. Sorry to hear that happened, but ford does have a TSB stating if it has low oil pressure codes, just put an engine and turbo in it. The focus' in general are nightmare cars and we won't sell them anymore. The 2.7 isn't a horrible engine, and the smoking on startup isn't a catastrophic failure of any kind. The only failures I've seen were 2 different 2.7 motors leaking oil through the valve guides, which ford also has a TSB out for(17-2077), but that's only for trucks built between April 1st, 2016-January 1st 2017. Turbos aren't much of a concern on newer models, as long as you're changing oil and doing other maintenance regularly, and like many cars you might expect to do phasers at some point, and an oil pan reseal. Either way, just get a decent service contract and they'll usually cover that stuff. I don't think you'll have as many issue as you did with a 1.0 focus.

@Justin-jn2qx Месяц назад

Just performed this repair on my 2019 F150 with 2.7L at 63k miles. Thanks for posting this video. It helped me quickly diagnose and fix this issue. New pipe has been in a week and no more smoking on start up 👍

@pman4337 Месяц назад

Did you use the parts listed in the TSB? I have a 2018 and the Ford parts site says the oil line doesn't fit. Searched it as a 2019 and it said the same thing. I used VINs for the parts search. Thanks.

@Justin-jn2qx 8 дней назад

I took it to a mechanic. It appeared to fix the issue for about 2 months but I just noticed the smoke again so it appears to be another contributing factor

@pman4337 7 дней назад

@@Justin-jn2qx thank you. It would be great if you could update what the issue is if you find out.

@yqwgjsg Год назад

Back in my day the first thought would be worn valve guides. With today’s new technology, I don’t have a logical starting place to even to begin with.

@hongshi8251 Год назад

Good fix. Your work with the 5.4 3 valve is why I follow your channel. I’m still nursing mine along and planning the timing job as needed. So far I got away with just replacement of the CTV Solenoids and changed to 5w30. Amazing what a guy can learn from an experienced mechanic. Thanks

@michaelj6392 Год назад

I’ve got 180K on my 5.4 3 valve, just chugging along. But I’m eyeing a newer 2.7 or the NA little 6 cylinder.

@Jay388 Год назад

Got 253,000 on my 08 5.4 . Still truckin 😎👍👍

@alphatrion4020 Год назад

Yeah I'm in it for the long haul with my 5.4, for a while everytime I would watch one of his videos on common issues with the 5.4 it would be a short time till mine would need the same thing. So needless to say I'm quite proficient with the 5.4 3 valve. I use my truck way beyond normal wear and tear so I'm not going to keep saying it's been all bad, ok I'm lying, it's been terrible since about 130k on it. But I may as well stick with it since I have already worked on just about every part on it.

@truepyro28 Год назад

I got a 2 valve is that one not as good as a 3 valve 5.4?

@hongshi8251 Год назад

@@truepyro28 Never had the 2 valve but I have not heard any bad comments on it.

@stevejohnson5837 Год назад

I believe the issue was due to oil weeping past the turbo seals after a hot soak and the revised tube allows for better drain back after shutdown.

@FordTechMakuloco Год назад

I think it allows for a vacuum break of sorts so it can fully drain the line yes.

@brianhunt5635 Год назад

This is what immediately came to my mind. Retaining pressure inside that line and weeping past the impeller seal into the exhaust side.

@brian2359 Год назад

@@FordTechMakuloco That makes sense, I couldn’t even think of a reason why taking an o-ring away would solve this issue! Thanks Bri

@Ben_jamin123 Год назад

@@FordTechMakuloco my 2015 2.7 eco has 99,000 miles on it and is doing the exact same thing. Could this apply to the 15’s as well? Thanks man!

@thevillepeople Год назад

@@Ben_jamin123 I also have a 2015 and wonder the same thing

@maxracingteam23 Год назад

My 2016 did this! Traded it in.

@ronanderson1816 Год назад

Excellent Demo fox !

@luismarty1685 Год назад

Thanks for the info sir.

@lennyfinckbone9052 2 месяца назад

My fan did the same thing. My mechanic pumped all my freon out then add it back. So far that fixed it.

@mikechiodetti4482 Год назад

Nice fix.

@andrewcraig2084 Год назад

I have a 2017 2.7 with 54,000 miles. Noticed this problem around 50,000 miles. Thanks for showing the fix!

@gnohn9366 Год назад

My 2017 also had that issue. Got the oil supply tube replaced under warranty. No problems since then.

@andrewcraig2084 Год назад

Good to hear. Unfortunately my truck is out of warranty.

@youngdaggerxd5108 Год назад

I also have the same truck, did you mileage go bad by any chance cause my has 18mpg average and i really want to know what the issue is

@jlautomotive6349 Год назад

How many miles on this truck? This is super simple and thank you for showing us and all the incredible information you give!! 👍

@timf6916 Год назад

Good job.

@bwalker4194 Год назад

The white smoke is likely from condensate in that giant muffler and resonator as they cool off, especially overnight. My 2017 has a factory pinhole on the bottom of the muffler. When it clogs up I get the smoke. When it's unclogged and working, I get a blackish wet spot under the muffler.

@waynecarr9150 Год назад

Where is this pinhole, is it obvious? Im assuming bottom side near the furthest back flange?

@DannyC379 Год назад

The white isn’t smoke. It’s condensation.

@adambennett2176 Год назад

And remember like Scott Kilmer says!!! "REMEMBER TO RING THAT BELL!!!!

@mikehupp2913 Год назад

I stand corrected cool on fords part 😎

@jeffone2nv Год назад

Ah!!! You knew it would be fixed!!! You’re the Ford expert mechanic great job 👏🏾

@volvo09 Год назад

wow, I can't believe that works! I noticed my 18 is doing the smoke at startup after I let it sit for a few days. I wonder if that redesigned pipe is keeping oil from dripping out of the head and through that tube (and thus the turbo) when the engine is off and oil is slowly draining back? the change eliminating an 0 ring and changing the shape of that inlet makes me think they are doing something to try and solve drain back.... would be nice to know how that oil passage in the head works.

@mxrevival Год назад

I recently replaced both of my turbos, and as such, both of these oil feed lines on each side. Before I decided to replace the lines, I flushed them with brake cleaner. Upon doing this, I realized that I had a free flow of brake cleaner through the passenger side line. The driver side would not flow any brake cleaner through the first I thought “there is my restrictions, and probably the reason why my driver’s side turbo failed”. But upon closer inspection, there is a ball or check valve underneath the filter on the driver side passenger side line does not have. I can only assume that check valve is what what was updated, and as what, keeps oil from draining down into the turbo housing and being burned. Love your videos 💪

@MackDoc Месяц назад

I was doing this repair and noticed the same thing. I wish there was a detailed document with more info about the updated line.

@robertpatterson7182 Год назад

I love that 2.7l ecoboost motor

@user-zu6xz8mh2r Год назад

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@J0hnnyDee Год назад

Thank you

@rpsmith Год назад

Thanks!

@engt16 Год назад

Thank you for this video. Would you mind giving the part numbers for the gaskets/seals on the Egr line, and the torque values? Thanks in advance.

@CassidysWorkshop Год назад

Thanks, I love watching your videos. I have a 2018 2.7 TT Fusion Sport. I've never noticed blue smoke on startup but I'm always in it. Is it mentioned in a similar TSB, I haven't seen one? Thanks.

@bstars1031 Год назад

When I was with BMW we had the same thing on our N20 and N26 engines. When parked overnight the engine oil pressure will equalize and leak past the turbine seal. Our new feed line had a check valve in the engine side. I’m sure that one does too internally. Prevents oil pressure equalizing. Those engines were only single turbo though, wonder why Ford only wants the driver side line replaced?

@michaelminauro4180 Год назад

Thanks good stuff for future reference only 27,000 on my 18th

@scottschalk593 Год назад

I had a 2016 2.7 that on cold days would produce so much white smoke on startup that my daughter once thought the truck was on fire. Took it to the dealership, they suggested the turbo line, changed it out which did help some but the truck would still produce giant plumes of steam on cold start when ever the temps were below 60.

@bradh6185 8 месяцев назад

I have a 2003 F150 V6 that does the same thing.

@jeremycappert8906 10 месяцев назад

Have you done this on a 2016 F-150 with the 2.7l? The TSB states that the driver’s side tire and fender shield have to come off but I see you didn’t have to do this in your video. Didn’t know if there is a big change in procedure from a 2016 vs the 2018 you worked on in this video. Thank you for your time and all of the information you share

@markragland3109 Год назад

My 2017 2.7 Ecoboost does this as well. Dealer said it was normal, then said it was that turbo supply side issue and replaced it, but it is still doing it.

@patrickblackburn2012 28 дней назад

Did you ever chase down the issue? My 2017 is doing the same. Replaces the line, still does it. Ford says it's "normal" Not sure what else to do

@morganlingsweiler9813 15 дней назад

My 2016 does it, is it the same oil feed turbo line that the 2018-20 use?

@ScottPlude Год назад

I can't believe that fixed the issue. It's like a customer saying his power steering is whining. Fords fix: change the spark plugs.

@Alex-px2mb Год назад

It is well known that the power steering gets sad when the spark plugs wear out. ROTFL.

@StrangerInAStrange 8 месяцев назад

Apparently also applies to 'Some 2015-2017 F-150 vehicles equipped with a 2.7L EcoBoost engine' - TSB #TSB 19-2188 Jul 09, 2019. I'm keeping my eye on my 2017.

@nickayivor8432 Год назад

INTELLECTUAL FordTechMakuloco Thanks for sharing it very helpful information video thank you Take care and have a great Evening INTELLECTUAL FordTechMakuloco From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧

@JohnLee-mu5lo Год назад

Your video is great help. Went to dealer back in 2021, they changed the left turbo oil supply tube, but did not resolve the issue. So went back two weeks later, but the dealer stated white/blue smoke is normal. Out of curiosity, are the newer and older oil supply tubes have same part number? Thank you for your help.

@jimbergen5232 Год назад

Appears that the second lower O-Ring was letting some oil by-pass and building up high pressure that the blue O-Ring couldn't block then leaking into the turbo. One would think it would be happening all the time, thus burning oil. What was the condition of the oil level consumption over 3k miles?

@bonjoeyt3 Год назад

Even brian was impressed 😂

@ve2jmk Год назад

My 2017 F150 2.7 had the same blue smoke problem. It was corrected on warranty after 18 months...

@waynecarr9150 Год назад

Thanks for making these videos! My 2016 2.7 is doing this. I see there was a tsb for my year as well. Your video only mentions 2018-2020. Does anyone know if there is any remarkable difference in the access or job for a 2016 2.7?

@usmc291 Год назад

My 2020 is at the dealership shop they told me exactly this , hopefully won’t take to long to get it back

@user-zu6xz8mh2r Год назад

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@Alex-px2mb Год назад

I would have thought that was total baloney but it makes sense: while the engine is running the oil is pumped under pressure and when the vehicle is off you would want it to drain back into the head. Only thing I worry about is leaks down the road due to elimination of the first o-ring but at least you'll make a video about that now, if it happens. Lol.

@carolinabull Год назад

Which 4.6 would you rebuild Lincoln Town Car Crown Vic or Grand Marquis

@REDMAN298 Год назад

My `18 F150 2.7l used to do it intermittantly and then stopped by itself. I figured it was the seal ring on the turbo shaft rotating it`s gap.

@lucasalamo7888 Год назад

What is your take on the 3.5 EcoBoost cam phaser bulletin? My 2018 Expedition is affected by it and the dealer told me they will replace it only if it starts acting up. I am a bit concerned about it.

@lebaneezer1 Год назад

Had exact same problem on a 15 f350 6.2l. turned out to be PCV valve. $12.00 repair.

@michaelminnick7832 Год назад

I like my 99 Expedition.

@thejourneymen7722 Год назад

I have been getting a hint of burnt oil in the mornings when I first start the truck but I haven’t noticed any blue smoke but how often do you start your truck while you’re looking at the tailpipe so this is definitely something I’m going to look into thanks for the enlightening video.

@volvo09 Год назад

if you park it for more than a day it may smoke more. mine doesn't really do it if I drive daily, but if I let it sit for a few days it'll smoke pretty good.

@easternsaxon7820 Год назад

My Explorer ST with the 3.0 TT does the same on startup.

@imfloridano5448 Год назад

Oil catch can is needed also

@j2gib Год назад

2017 F150 too!

@slowyo9645 Год назад

Great video. I just completed this on my 2017 Ford F-150 2.7l EcoBoost. I'm not sure if it's just specific to the 2015-2017 models, but the updated line had a check valve on the filtered inlet end going to the block. The one I took off the truck, what appeared to be original, looked identical to the 'updated' one for $250. When I popped the filter off the new line I noticed the check valve. I did not have the 2 o-ring set-up at all.

@chrisfit 10 месяцев назад

My 2016 is doing this. Need to find the part

@chrisfit 10 месяцев назад

Did it fix your problem?

@slowyo9645 10 месяцев назад

It did temporarily, but it did not fix the problem in the long run. I still get intermittent blue smoke on start-up. @@chrisfit

@MANtrout705 10 месяцев назад

@@slowyo9645any solutions since this one was only temporary? I’m currently looking to stop this in my 2017 2.7 ecoboost

@slowyo9645 10 месяцев назад

@@MANtrout705 not at the moment brother, I’m still looking into it and will update - please do the same! I’m thinking either driver side turbo prematurely failing internal seals (113k miles) or engine valve guide seals.

@andymesa2377 Год назад

@FordTechMakuloco Great video! I have been to the dealership 3 times for this issue and they were just shy of taking the engine apart. This all started from an oil change where they overfilled it. My gut told me to hold off as nothing was mechanically wrong with my 2018 F150. I wish I would have found this sooner, definitely subscribing to your channel! I'm looking to make this repair myself, can you advise where to purchase all the necessary parts for this repair online?

@user-zu6xz8mh2r Год назад

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@troyboucher3089 Год назад

Will blue smoke on startup cause any issues down the road if the oil supply tube doesnt get replaced at all?

@aaroncash8596 Год назад

I had the same issue from my 2017 since the day I bought it new. Then a year ago I switched to full synthetic oil and it hasn’t smoked since

@michaelkay3945 Год назад

Would this work for a 2014 Ford escape with the same issue?

@hankhill5290 Год назад

How do you determine if it is driver or passenger side? Would this be the same for 16 3.5 eco with subtle blue on start after cold soak?

@Kansas-Trains Год назад

I have the same model year and engine, is this something to worry about or get fixed right away?

@jg6142 Год назад

Unbelievable!

@Sundevel1 Год назад

I did notice smoke on one start up, but nothing since. Have you dealt with engine code error P21D2? Just had the injector 4 replaced and spark plugs as well. Engine light back on. I see one post about possible MAF or MAP sensor issue.

@snoops606 Год назад

So glad I got the 3.3

@user-fz3sz2dj4r Год назад

Congrats, barely more reliable and souless motor

@SEllis05 Год назад

This is exactly like my wife's 2016 2.7 ecoboost F-150

@tonypapay Год назад

My 2.7 had the smoke issue, about a year ago the dealer replaced the oil pan because of the leaks (another well known issue) after that no more smoke in the exhaust.

@ictguy455 Год назад

Mine is a 2016 and had same problem. Dealer told me turbo booster fitting and it would be 700 plus. He also said oil pan and with warranty it was only $100. Said lets do cheaper thing first and as of now no smoke at all. And they changed timing casing screws for free.

@JM-mi9ty 5 месяцев назад

Which engine would you recommend for the F-150 for 2018 and up? What's your opinion on the 2.7 with the belt driven oil pump?

@alcapot6752 Год назад

off subject my 98 taurus climate radio wont turn on only the rear defrost works all fuses check out any suggestions.also before it completely died at time when i started the car i would hear clicking sound and radio would cycle on to off.

@PhillyDee215 Год назад

Seems the newer these vehicles get the more issues they have🤦‍♂️

@bryansmith7765 9 месяцев назад

Will it harm the turbo not fixing it or should you schedule service if this dkes happen?

@NITROUSnBIASPLYS 18 дней назад

What is your opinion on the build and durability of tge 2 7 turbo? Which generation engine is best?

@bubbabiker5653 Год назад

Great video. I'm curious on why the coolant line has to be removed on the 2015-2017's to change the oil feed tube? I can see having to remove the turbo flange bolt/stud is required to access the oil tube mounting bolt.

@morganlingsweiler9813 15 дней назад

Do the 2015-17 2.7s use the same oil feed line? My 2016 has a cloud of white/faint blue smoke on the morning start up.

@robertk5822 Год назад

Bmw have exactly same problem couple years ago with n20 engine same fix same symptoms

@thomasdaum1927 Год назад

There must be something else other than not having the bottom o-ring on the new tube . Just querious . Thanks Brian

@mudwiser1391 Год назад

Malaluckoo strikea again!!! Any chance of a vid about diagnosing an engine compartment oil leak?

@joem1767 9 месяцев назад

Ive had this TSB performed and my truck still smokes. Is there any other update from Ford @fordtechmakuloco ?

@superstretch83 Год назад

Where can I get the replacement tube. Do you have a link to get the improved version?

@Blackford86 Год назад

Good afternoon sir good morning good morning I hope you’re doing well. I have a 2002 Ford F150 5.4 with 2 valve. My problem is occasionally my odometer starts flashing erratically is it trying to tell me something and occasionally I get like a misfire and then it goes away, please help if you can Also sometimes the misfire happens on his own without the odometer numbers going crazy. I hope this makes sense. I know everybody’s gonna say the odometer flashing is giving you a code that your truck is missing firing

@spidusp Год назад

Same thing on my 2016 and it was 22 degre in the morning

@fastcutterslawnandlandscap2666 3 месяца назад

I just bought a 2017 with 120k miles and it does this. Is it something to be concerned of, as in any damage from leaving it?

@khalidkfy7368 Год назад

👍

@nmraskin 5 месяцев назад

Does this apply to the 2015-2017 models? I’ve got the same issue with my 2016 2.7 ecoboost.

@Itszachmiller Год назад

Are there specific torque specs for bolts to be tightened?

@b.n4823 Год назад

I'm having this issue with a 21 5.0. When I purchased the truck from out of state, it arrived with no oil reading on the dipstick. When I drained it, I got about 2 quarts out. It's not making any sounds, just blue smoke on cold starts.

@digger105337 Год назад

Mabey they added a restrictor orifice inside the new tube so it delivers less oil. That way it doesn't overfill the turbo housing, so drain back can happen quicker when you shut it off. Over delivery of oil in the low friction environment could also cause it to consume oil while running, but was undetectable because the engine is up to temp.

@hochhaul Год назад

That would increase the risk of sludge deposits blocking flow at the orifice.

@digger105337 Год назад

@@hochhaul If the oil is to spec and it's maintained to any extent "sludge" shouldn't be circulating in the pressurized oil galley of any engine. Restrictors or Orifices are part of many lube systems. Piston coolers being an example, never heard of one clogging ????