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Ford Territory No Start - DIY Test Will Work For Any Car

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What can stop a Ford from starting? Hmmm, I’d better leave that one alone!
Here is a simple diagnosis that can be applied to many different makes and models & is not that hard to do. Just make sure you have a correct wiring diagram as there a few different styles of relays.
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@neilrobertson6535 Год назад

Another problem I found with a no start on some early falcons BA/BF and maybe later ones. Bypassing the starter relay in conjunction with ignition on , you could end up running yourself or someone else over. If you are one of those people who never seem to apply the handbrake the car could drive off. The issue is that the auto transmission selector cable breaks at the transmission end. Usually when you last park it up and you think it's in park. No, want happens is the cable snaps and it is actually in R. Next morning turn the key no start. Check to see if it's not in D orR no selector lever is in Park. Now get out and if you are a DIY person and you bypass the relay and you have left the ignition on you may run yourself over or do some major damage. The first and simplest way to avoid this is look at the dash and check want the auto indicator lamp is saying, if the cable has broken it will most likely be in D OR R. Hope that helps anyone with a no start on a falcon. They are notorious for bad connections at starter , Fried starters and particularly on the Territory the earth strap from chassis to engine.

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Thanks for your comment Neil. Safety should be a priority when diagnosis anything

@tobo26 Год назад

One step I add in this situation is tap the solenoid with your extension bars a couple of times. It has saved me a few times. I have also had the contacts in the solenoid weld shut which means the starter keeps engaged even after engine starts and tapping the solenoid may also help here.

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Yes, the old 'hit with a hammer' trick works well!

@mrsomething0075 Год назад

Great video! I have owned my territory for about 2 years now. Pity I'm in South Africa. Very difficult to find spares for it here

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Glad you enjoyed the video. I hope you find other videos on the channel useful. 😁

@pseudosphere Год назад

I used your multiple extensions method and this worked for me. Thanks for the vid! That top bolt is definitely a pain.

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Glad the video helped. Ford design at it's best! 😉

@metalskippy294 Год назад

replaced starter on an all wheel drive auto 2006. your video helped, extension method helped so much. but ford is now a four lettered word for me.

@metalskippy294 Год назад

didnt help that the top bolt replaced with a 12mm, guess someone is still laughing.

@MiracleMAX Год назад

@@metalskippy294 I hear ya! Some engineers must just laugh at some of the designs they palm off to us to work on. Glad the video helped. 🤗

@stevanzaharic 2 года назад

Good work is done.I'm very impress with your testing, but two 13mm bolts is easy to remove and install if you lift car up or put on ramp or jack stand for removing and refiting starter.

@MiracleMAX 2 года назад

Hey Stevan, For most other cars I would agree, but I did use a lift as well as the top bolt is hidden right up the top and pretty much impossible to get from below. Thanks for your comment 👍

@aheelerdog8763 2 года назад

Thankyou for this video ,Car would not start due to faulty relay .i swapped the one from the high beam light slot (same relay type) and the car started.

@MiracleMAX 2 года назад

I'm so glad the video helped! 😉👍

@RK-dl8iw 4 месяца назад

Thanks buddy, just found out it was just a faulty relay in my Terri after watching your vid.. Just wished I watched your video before I purchased my starter motor.. Let's hope I can get refund 😂 cheers

@MiracleMAX 4 месяца назад

Glad it helped! 😉

@NazifNB 2 года назад

top bolt is difficult, but with small extensions you can do it from underneath,did it about 5 years ago it was a pain

@MiracleMAX 2 года назад

Hey NAZ BES, Either way, the engineers did not design it for it to be repaired! Thanks for your comment 😉

@rods6405 9 месяцев назад

Just did my BA Falcon Starter motor it was easy once you put the car on ramps (i had to lift it with a jack on the front cross member)pull out airbox so you can feel around I only used one extension with a ratshit for top bolt from under the car it was out in 5 minutes buy a new bosch starter motor got mine from repco 109$au its not that hard ! love the Oz Ford straight six pity those V6 euro 6's that put the starter under the manifold

@MiracleMAX 9 месяцев назад

Congrats on your repair! Check out where they keep the starter motor on this vehicle - I think it's a Bentley GT 6.0L W12. facebook.com/EngineLabs/photos/a.501487143201513/3376442865705912/?type=3

@danielbrown5682 2 года назад

“Test will work on any car” Couldn’t do this test on my Tesla, fake news! Nice diagnosis mate!

@MiracleMAX 2 года назад

Hmmm Browny - ya got me there! But I guess, even on a Tesla, the testing procedures for relays would be similar 😉😁

@danielbrown5682 2 года назад

@@MiracleMAX I don’t think there is a single relay in Teslas nowdays, i heard a while ago, because everything is controlled with CAN bus, they don’t even have fuses,

@MiracleMAX 2 года назад

@@danielbrown5682 Ah, whatever happened to the good old days? So I guess they are using MOSFETs instead of relays. I guess we have to keep up or get out! I'll be doing a EV course next month, ready to start teaching. Sorry, we don't have a Tesla, only a humble Kona 😁

@tubuna730 2 года назад

Thankyou for your video i am having this problem this moment really help me

@MiracleMAX 2 года назад

I hope you find the problem quickly. Thanks for sharing your comment 😊

@MikeKJV1611 Год назад

Great video thank you so much for a well presented and understandable video 😊

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Thanks Mike for your kind comment 👍😁

@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage 2 года назад

Good info buddy, well done 👍👌

@MiracleMAX 2 года назад

Thanks 👍

@markshort9098 2 года назад

I had a funny one years ago in my old xe falcon, I was in town and the starter wouldn't kick and I didn't have any tools to test anything so I grabbed the dogs chain and used it to jump the start solenoid and the car started straight up and took off backwards.. I hadn't put it in park properly 🤦‍♂️ luckily there wasn't anyone to close, crashing into someone would have made it even more embarrassing

@MiracleMAX 2 года назад

Hey Mark, Sounds like you had a few problems. Great thinking out of the box! Thanks for sharing your comment 😉

@julianalderson3938 10 месяцев назад

Thanx max. Rekon my bf wagon needs starter. Takes few goes n sometimes nuthin. Bugga to get at.

@MiracleMAX 10 месяцев назад

I hope you can diagnose & repair it! Yup, not fun to get to...☹️

@David_P132 Год назад

First class, many thanks.

@MiracleMAX Год назад

You are welcome David! 😉

@iangaff 2 года назад

You are an awesome person

@MiracleMAX 2 года назад

Thank you for your kind words 😊

@malmotumotu5218 2 года назад

Thank you so much for sharing

@MiracleMAX 2 года назад

You are welcome. I hope the video was helpful 😉

@malmotumotu5218 2 года назад

@@MiracleMAX help a lot!!!Wondering if you have ever replace a Peugeot 207 cc convertible alternator.I am trying to to remove it but could not find a space as it is so tight.I have unbolted it but couldn’t find a way lol

@MiracleMAX 2 года назад

@@malmotumotu5218 Sorry, I haven't. Some vehicles I have had to remove a section of the exhaust or unbolt the engine mounts to raise the engine to give clearance. I did a quick search for 'replace alternator peugeot 207' and found several videos. Hope it goes well for you. 😊

@malmotumotu5218 2 года назад

@@MiracleMAX thank you and really appreciate that 🙏🏼

@taran.singhsingh1356 Год назад

Hi mate is it possible to show few pics where it is installed as its very hard to find it .

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Do you mean the starter motor? Go in through the rear of the LHF wheel under the car & look up. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zMRB5wsdkao.html

@afaqstats Год назад

I have a 2012 disel territory Ts. The car not going in in 3 gear. What can be the reason? Please help me. From Melbourne Australia.

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Hey Muhammad, Is your Territory a manual or automatic transmission?

@afaqstats Год назад

Sorry forgot to mention, its automatic

@MiracleMAX Год назад

@@afaqstats Does it have any fault codes? What is the condition of the oil? Is the output speed sensor working correctly?

@danielparsons3526 2 года назад

Grate vid mate very helpful.

@MiracleMAX 2 года назад

Glad it helped

@shannonmortensen1406 2 года назад

At the moment, my stop light flashes. Car and hand icon light. The click before I turn over, is when the light flashes. Then it doesn't allow for me to turn over. This happens 4 times out of 10. Any help appreciated. Thank you

@MiracleMAX 2 года назад

What car do you have? Do you mean that the brake lights are flashing at the rear of the vehicle or the brake warning light on your dash flashes. Has any of the testing shown in the video been carried out?

@mozaah685 9 месяцев назад

Awesome mate💯

@MiracleMAX 9 месяцев назад

You are welcome! Thanks for your subscription 😊

@ritahdedeng6889 9 месяцев назад

Mine is a similar problem. Territory 2008

@MiracleMAX 9 месяцев назад

Common Ford problems. 😉

@Anis-sb2we 4 месяца назад

Hi mate got a ford falcon 2015 no start and no power it’s had a front impact any idea cheers

@MiracleMAX 4 месяца назад

What tests have you done so far? Is it crank no start, or no crank? Has this happened only after the impact? Does it have spark & injection? Do you have any fault codes?

@flaunt243 3 месяца назад

Hi Max, I have the exact same car with the exact same problem and noones been able to help me so far. Do you have a workshop in Sydney? Or can you recommend someone in Sydney? I know you’re based in Goulburn. This has been happening for a few months now, what will happen if I don’t get it fixed?

@MiracleMAX 3 месяца назад

You can contact me about details via Email miraclemax3@hotmail.com

@milosnikolic6201 Год назад

It's 4:00am in the morning and still taping on the starter motor

@MiracleMAX Год назад

So have you been able to diagnose the fault?

@bendelaunay Год назад

Great video! Thanks a lot. A pro mechanic replaced my starter motor on my Territory a year ago. Recently, the car started to be unresponsive, like the one in the video. After hitting the starter motor with a hammer, the car started again. But failed again after a week. I hit it again and made sure that the connections were good etc. The car starts again, but for how long!!? Do you think I should replace the started motor again?? It should fail after a year, right? Thanks a lot for your video anyway. Helped me a lot!

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Hey Ben, Is there warranty still available if you take it back to the mechanic?

@bendelaunay Год назад

@@MiracleMAX Thanks for your reply! Unfortunately, the warranty is over! I guess, I'll have to replace it myself! I'm just surprised that a starter motor can fail only after a year.

@MiracleMAX Год назад

@@bendelaunay Have you confirmed that there is no voltage drop on either the positive cable to the starter or the ground circuit? Are you getting 12 volts to the starter solenoid during cranking?

@bendelaunay Год назад

@@MiracleMAX thanks for your reply. I didn't yet. I'm gonna check this out shortly. Thanks again

@kinkdogg 11 месяцев назад

How did you go?

@sarahmizzi1836 Год назад

I did that rely test and starter works what now

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Did you have power at the relay (30) and at the start position (86)? Was the ground good (85)? Did the starter work when you did the bypass test?

@philrogers1758 Год назад

Yep yep & yep but when the solenoid activator wire got 12v direct, starter worked perfectly, that relay area ? Mnnn! I did swap with a like for like relay but nothing at the solenoid activator wire ???

@MiracleMAX Год назад

OK Phil, Do you have a broken wire or voltage drop on that wire? Do you have 12 volts at the solenoid wire when attempting to crank? How did you test the starter motor to state that the starter worked perfectly? Do you have good 12 volts on the main battery to starter wire during cranking? Have you done a voltage drop test at the battery ground? Is the ground wire going to the engine in good condition? Is the bolt tight?

@KeitaKelly Год назад

How do u gt pass the smart lock

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Do you have an issue with your key? What is the actual problem?

@ricjohn2020 12 дней назад

Hi what if you get nothing from the test light you show in the starter relay?

@MiracleMAX 12 дней назад

Which pin? 30, 87, 86 or 85? Did you have the ignition turned on when you tested it?

@ricjohn2020 12 дней назад

@@MiracleMAX pin 85 I think the negative one, yes ignition on

@MiracleMAX 12 дней назад

@@ricjohn2020 If it is negative, it won't have power there. Is the relay clicking? You should have power at 30 & either 85 or 86, depending on the design. This video might explain it a bit better. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hIy4p_Pkbug.html

@ricjohn2020 12 дней назад

@@MiracleMAX not power, looking for the negative when ignition is on

@MiracleMAX 11 дней назад

@@ricjohn2020 Is this the same vehicle as the one shown? Have you checked the wiring diagram to make sure it is wired the same? You should be able to put your test light between pin 85 & 86, go to the crank position and it should light. Is yours automatic? Are you getting continuity through the park/neutral switch? Can you bypass pins 30 & 87 and get the engine to crank?

@glennarnold3970 Год назад

hi max i have a 2009 sy territory have you ever come across when you crank it to start it feels like it hydrolocks for a split second almost like it over advances cranks then prefires then recranks and starts other than that it is a real trooper but it does it hot or cold but it doesn't do it all the time and no codes cheers glenn

@MiracleMAX Год назад

How is the battery condition? How much inrush current is drawn on the initial turn on of the starter?

@glennarnold3970 Год назад

@@MiracleMAX battery is 6 months old 2nd starter 2nd ignition switch it almost feels like the engine is too far advanced when it plays up all earths and powers are clean it doesn't do it all the time but when it does it's frustrating

@MiracleMAX Год назад

@@glennarnold3970 Is the timing chain stretched? Can you do a cam/crankshaft correlation?

@mathewlindsay9469 Год назад

How long of an extension bar (or combination of extension bars) is needed for that top nut?

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Hey Mathew, Sorry, it's been some time since I did this repair, but just think of the length of the engine and that should give you some idea. I just happen to have quite a few extension bars and was able to add them until I got what I needed. It's best to use a series of smaller ones, as you have to get past the radiator to get to the correct angle.

@mathewlindsay9469 Год назад

@@MiracleMAX thanks.

@wubgee3311 Год назад

I have a 07 ford territory awd the battery went flat put another battery in and it wont start its cranking but no start it was driving and starting fine before i parked it up for a month and the battery died do they have a security feature also my driver window motor stopped and now the window wont go all the way up would this be a security feature cheers

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Did you put ALL the wires back onto the battery terminals? Are there any fuses blown? Did you use a new battery? Did you do all the tests shown in the video? Have you tried disconnecting the battery again for maybe 20 minutes to allow the PCM to reset?

@TRAVERSE_ADV 4 месяца назад

Only the best engine ever mare. ..

@MiracleMAX 4 месяца назад

I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion 😁

@TRAVERSE_ADV 4 месяца назад

@@MiracleMAX hard to kill trust me i have tried. Had ine with 1.2 million ks on it. There is a reason why all the taxis were falcons in the end of LPG taxi fleets. The components that fail in falcons are all made by other companies.

@MiracleMAX 4 месяца назад

@@TRAVERSE_ADV I have no trouble with Barras - I just like to stir and besides.....Fords pay my rent 🤣🤣

@TRAVERSE_ADV 4 месяца назад

@@MiracleMAX hahaha yeah true, thats why everytime I meet a job that doesn't need a hoist I buy tools and DIY. Tools are cheaper than mechanics haha. Being a mechanical fitter also helps .

@MiracleMAX 4 месяца назад

@@TRAVERSE_ADV Good job 👍

@darbet83 8 месяцев назад

This should be named Won't crank Not Won't start(cranking but no start)

@MiracleMAX 8 месяцев назад

Fair comment

@ritahdedeng6889 9 месяцев назад

Where are you located?

@MiracleMAX 9 месяцев назад

NSW. You can contact me via Email at miraclemax3@hotmail.com

@brettpowter6010 6 месяцев назад

i use a cheap 12v buzzer instrad of a globe for testing no need to see it u can hear it...

@MiracleMAX 6 месяцев назад

Great idea! Whatever gets your attention. 👍😉

@mvb88 2 года назад

I've replaced the starter and the starter still clicks. I've hooked the car up to another car just incase it was the battery. Still just clicks. I'm thinking it's the positive cable from battery to starter. The starter is getting power. The starter is a a hole to replace. Luckily there was no Australian around when I was doing it. Last time I buy a falcon

@MiracleMAX 2 года назад

Hey Mike, What was the voltage at the starter motor when cranking? Have you done the testing at the starter like shown in the video? I worked on a Jackaroo recently with a similar fault. The process is the same. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-G_TmxdXdFWM.html

@mvb88 2 года назад

@@MiracleMAX I don't know. Don't have the gear to check. I've switched fuse's over. Only thing lift I can think of is the power supply.

@MiracleMAX 2 года назад

@@mvb88 Hey Mike, it might be easier to buy a cheap multimeter & do some testing before you replace any more parts. Let us know what you find. Ford's.....am I right?