Foreigners on Drag Queen’s VIRAL “Ama Namin” Performance 🇵🇭 

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Difference is that here in the Philippines, this behavior isn't condoned. Even LGBTQ+ members here condemned what he/she did. In other countries especially in the West this would have been celebrated and even hailed as "free speech" but Filipinos still value Christian values very much.

The girl in the middle is correct. Luka can do whatever he wants but expect legal cases/backlash. Some people do not understand that the reason why there is Philippines is because of the Catholic faith. The least they could do is respect the faith.

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There are religious LGB people but the line stops and goes messy when you go to TQIA+++. Also people in LGB want to break away from the group.

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This was blown out of proportion-people who weren’t religious and had access to social media spouted their take. I mean, I get it, blasphemous, but aren’t there things that are blasphemous that are done by these people on a daily? The mundane “Oh my God” and other stuff? I’m done with all the projecting and virtue signaling. If this wasn’t posted on social media, I doubt people would even care. The drag queen was even pronounced persona non grata in remote locations. Weird af.

If Pura Luka Vega really thinks what he/she did is just an "Art" and not mockery, then why don't she try to do it to Prophet Muhammad and see what the Muslims have to say and if they will agree that it's just an "Art". His/her gender has nothing to do with the issue but he/she simply just have to know when to stop using "Art" as an excuse. His/her actions even have legal consequences but he/she just ignored it.

You know what’s wrong is that they posted it in social media, if that matter happens inside a bar it should stay inside the bar. Naturally as it is shown in social media people who are conservative and against mocking things especially religious matter would react. As they have said it is a performance which means to entertain a group of people or the audience watching him. It is not relating to a religious way of gracing the lord.

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*Just to add context, there's a law here in the Philippines that penalizes violations of Article 133 of the Revised Penal Code - "Offending Religious Feelings." Ignorance of the law is no excuse.*

the artist luka just give us a reason to step and shit on the pride flag and call it artistry and freedom of expression too. Would he like that?

Nevertheless, the violent threats he's getting is way too much (curses, physical/death threats, etc.). That is so UNCHRISTIAN of them. What he did is actually nothing in comparison with the abuses committed by the Christian churches, which, often than not, don't receive much attention.

My take on this is, for luca as an lgbtq who wants to be respected and accepted from people might as well respect those people as well especially their beliefs. You cannot demand respect from people and then mock them whenever you feel like to.

just curious, what do you mean what you say tolerated but not accepted? For me, I see it's just the same. Do I need to have a relationship with Gay to be accepting? I mean what is the criteria to be accepting?

Isaiah 5:20-21 Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, And prudent in their own sight! (Isaiah 5:20-21).....Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. (Galatians 6:7)

i think that christianity must have such a deep-rooted hold on most filipinos that someone having the AUDACITY to disrespect it will get this level of attention. i think that when you're used to being a part of the majority you feel entitled to police people. because this belonging to something larger is your only form of security. if someone out there said something shitty about something i identify with, i wouldn't care that much, that's their journey. they'll definitely never get the chance to be my friend, they'll never get the chance to be close to me. i'm not gonna waste my precious time sending them death threats, filing complaints, trying to take away their freedom of speech, trying to take away their rights, sending them hate emails etc. honestly, i'd probably just roll my eyes and be very unsurprised because as a part of the minority, i expect most people to hold views that do not respect me. disrespect is the default i live with. growing up queer and leaving christianity took away so much outside support from me that i don't expect respect or tolerance from people. if someone out there said something disrespectful about my own faith (not christianity, not any of the abrahamic religions, not any of the major world religions) i would NOT be triggered to the level that these people are. i wouldn't go up to them with murder in my eyes being like "how dare you" ... if whatever hate group is gathering somewhere among people like themselves and talking shit about people like me, i wouldn't care, whatever, that's nothing new. but if they tried to enter into our spaces and disrupt our activities, that's the only time it would be a problem. if you're one of those people who is triggered by this comment, or who have this weird need to restrict the freedom of people different from you, then here's a question for you: who are you? apart from your christianity, apart from your identity as a cis straight person, apart from your being filipino, apart from any group identity (like what school you went to, your family legacy etc, class status)..who are you? because believe it or not, there is something in all of us that is unique, that doesn't have the support of the tribe, whatever tribe that is. there is something in all of us that the tribe, being the conformity machine that it is, wants to smooth over and wipe from the face of the earth. what is that part of you that you don't have in common with your tribe? usually this quality in us received a lot of backlash, perhaps from other classmates, friends, parents, relatives, siblings etc. it's difficult to be a unique different person in the world. especially one as christian and family oriented as filipino culture. so it's a special quality that you knew that if you ever expressed it it might come to people as a shock. you'll be "found out" as different from everyone else. but if you can respect that part of yourself, accept it, even love it, regardless of what your tribes say, then you'll be far less triggered by anyone offending your tribal identifications.

I am Gay, and I am proud to be one. I honestly don't care what Chirstianity would think or say about my preference, but I know that respect needs to start on your self, before you earn it. The performance itself do not show a shed of respect from the performers perspective, to the LGBT community, and to Christian religion. It was purely commited to gain personal popularity, which is sad and humiliating since the LGBT community fight so hard over the years to get the very little freedom that we deserve. I just wish that this would be the last act of recklessness that will be done by someone who thinks irrationally and iresponsibly.

regarding the drag queen incident. let's put things in perspective. it happened in a club. people go to a club to be entertained or to just be happy. the thing that offended most Filipinos is that the drag queen, used a prayer to entertain people in that club. not just any prayer but the Lord's prayer to entertain the people in the club. that's the keyword, to "entertain". Can you think of a specific event where an artist used prayer to entertain his audience? Now there are artists, that have their own rendition of the Lord's prayer, but most do this not to entertain but to express their artistry. What the drag queen did wasn't his own rendition of a prayer, so where's the expression of artistry there? So let's not twist the issue any further, most Filipinos saw this as a way for the person to garner attention. Add to that, the unapologetic attitude bordering on arrogance during the aftermath only escalated the anger towards him. Most Filipinos are religious, true. But many now are more accepting of the LGBTQ community compared to 10 or 20 years ago. Yes, in the provinces or the rural country areas, where many Filipinos are still very traditional, acceptance of the LGBTQ community has a long way to go. They are tolerated, yes, but not wholly accepted either. So this shenanigans by the person really is a big setback for his community. And now, instead of understanding and acceptance for which many of his peers in the community have worked so hard to achieve, he is now reviled in many places in the country as many provinces have declared him to be persona non grata(unwelcome). If he only showed a little humility, it wouldn't have come to this. One doesn't demand respect, one has to earn it. How? start by being respectful towards other people, regardless of race, gender, social status, etc. but as a human being

there is always that question of morality, hahahhaha! i'm not too religious but that guy is out of bound and i really don't care how expressive he would like to be but for me as sure as there is heaven and hell, he is going to hell. hahhahahahha!

Just respect the religion, that's it. I know Luca is a good person, but it is what it is. Catholic church is very strict when it comes to this matter. However, I think it's too much to give this drag artist a death threat, or too much hatred even banning him in his own town. Craaaazy!

We Filipinos respect everyone but what this individual did is something evil. They don't have fear of God.

You cannot worship the Lord in the bar,the Bible says go to your room and lock the door and pray.What he did is mocking the Lord.

In the Philippines 🇵🇭 we respect religion of Christianity ✝️

I believe one television network started it all when they promoted Ms Gay Philippines in their show. Media play a big role in molding the character of young children. This might have contributed to the increase in gay in the Philippines somehow and I agree with you on that.

I guess luka should file a counter argument in court stating that he is religiously persecuted by these LGU's ... 1. separation of Church and State - If luka offended the "church" the one who should punish luka is the church not the state coz these entity are two separate things. 2. According to our consti- No law shall be made respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. The free exercise and enjoyment of religious profession and worship, without discrimination or preference, shall forever be allowed. if he is just worshipping his god in that manner who are we to judge ? remember there are plenty of christian denomination, some are even worse claiming they are the son of god... geez 3. Declaring PNG to luka is quite vague he never make fun of the national emblems or national thingy of those provinces unlike what AiAi and Yap did to QC.... 4. RPC of PH- article 132/133 should be the one being filed against luka not the PNG!!! with this trend it only shows that luka did not violate anything but purely hurting the ego of filo religious peeps the sad thing, luka is not a powerful filo unlike the previous pres. 5. or else Luka should seek political asylum to the west as what Celdran did. just my two cents!

Come on, I dont buy his alibi; it’s BS. We all know he’s not sorry about it. Clearly a bad excuse with no boundaries.

There are stores who sell apple pies. If you don't like it, don't buy it. You don't even have to look at it. It's your choice. But there are other people who like to eat apple pies and likes to look at it, I'm not stopping them it's their life and choice. We don't really have to complicate things. If you don't like it, you don't like it. But don't stop people from doing things they like. In turn they also can't force me to like what they like. Your belief is not necessarily my belief. My belief is not necessarily your belief. We don't kill each other. Life is short. I do what I do. You do what you do. We coexist. Live and let live. Happy days. ;-)

The Philippines has been accepting of this group even before woke culture is even a thing. You need to research that. And second, he did that for clout not as a form of expression. He was obviously imitating that demented group from the US the Sisters of Perpetual Indugence. So he deserves what he is getting.

respecting our religion in the Philippines is a big deal. whatever your gender as long as you don't disrespect our religion. its no problem. is not about if he's gay. its plays victims and is expressing it. well he must choose other person to impersonate and not some religious or some national artist. yes LGBT community here in the country is tolerated but not widely accepted. that's facts. its a matter of respecting even though were not the same sector. they must behave modestly in the society if they will not face backlash.

From a Christian standpoint, Christian songs shouldn't be used for casual, non-religious events, especially in a club. This is especially true for Pentecostal groups and Protestants, as it's seen as inappropriate. There's a clear distinction between secular activities and worship, like going to church or gathering with others spiritually, even outside of church premises or in your own home. But then there's Luka, who claims that his way of worshiping God involves performing in drag at a club. Is that really aligned with biblical teachings? It seems like he's not really a devoted Catholic, just pretending to be. He should learn to respect and seek guidance from spiritual leaders before engaging in questionable behaviors. Now, many provinces are considering him persona non grata for disrespecting the Christian beliefs of the country. Furthermore, the Pentecostals and Protestants do not condone homosexuality as it goes against the principles of God's teachings. What he did was a blasphemous act and a mockery, setting a poor example for the young members of the LGBTQ community. Complaints and grievances have been raised by his community regarding gender discrimination, and yet he showed little regard for his actions. Currently, he is facing the consequences of his behavior. Regrettably, the Catholic Church leaders have not taken any action nor made significant noise about this issue. However, when it comes to politics, they are quick to criticize and make loud noises. It is puzzling why they remain silent regarding a homosexual individual who disrespects the Lord's prayer. This could be a reason why there are many homosexual Catholic priests who have been accused of misconduct with young boys.

To be fair sometimes they just using the Lgbt as an excuse with their actions they want to be respected and accepted but they should know their boundaries also this is not america we respect any religions and opinions but singing Ama namin in that way is wrong my two cousins is gay i have a lot of friends is gay but they dont act like him gender is not a big deal in the Philippines as long as u are a good person we based on attitude sometimes its not fair to us real woman gay is more priority they want special treatment but its fine we accepted that but they should know their boundaries😑like before about the CR issue before they want to be on the same woman cr its awkward to be honest they must be gay or dress like a ladys but still they are born a man whatever they do u cant expect everyone to be ok with that to be fair they have their rights we have also but for some gays even our own rights they want to take advantage 😩Pura luka has no respect at all

As a filipina at first I didn't see anything wrong in that performace because people seems enjoying but I got triggered and felt disrespect when he end up having another video taste testing/kinda mukbang a alter bread/Ostia that used in a church as body of christ. Thats when he crossed the line already for me. Because he can cosplay as Jesus like other people when doing the play how jesus die in the cross.

The difference between Vice Ganda and the other Noon time show is night and Day Tito Soto and Helen Gambia promotes long lasting relationships they are both in the 70’s showing love to each other while Vice Ganda is showing sexual innuendo night and Day…

There is no problem about expressing your feelings especially using religion. It is however just a matter of how this person presented the character, how he performed, The performance was wishy washy and portrayed first a mocking behavior and second a blatant disrespectful behavior. It's very demeaning.and inappropriate. It likewise lacked sophistication, and since he was depicting something religious., there was no solemnity. in other words, all in all it had no class. In addition, the male speaker in this video meant, with every freedom comes responsibility. Fil- Am Watching from the US.

The World is so sinful. And people are so worldly and selfish that they think they can just mock God our Creator for the sake of entertainment and attention. God is already much offended by all blasphemies against Him. People need to repent and ask for Mercy!

if he did that in the middle east specially in Saudi Arabia he might end up dead by insulting and mocking Islam, he should be thankful that persona non grata is all he get for what he did.

If he's apolologetic he shld hv not made a video reviewing the sacramental host used in the eucharist. I think he's clout chasing.

He's having persona nongrata tour 😂😂

Diin na ang number sang kapid 😅

I think it's not expressing his faith when he is actually being paid to do that. It his work. It's not about being in the LGBTQ community it is how he used the lord as a perfomance number which is very disrespecting. If a straight person does that, he/she will get the backlash. Let see if he can do that in the middleeast or in mindanao and use the muslim religioun as an act.

Sadly,not appropriate place and timing what he did.Nothing wrong showing your love to God but in appropriate time and place.

One thing... the Catholic Church does not discriminate queer people. People discriminate. It is not judgement. It is based on the values of people. As much as he is free to express himself to desecrate the image of Jesus and call it "art", the fact that he is in a conservative society, there will be a backlash. It means he doesn't know how to read the room. Also, even if a straight guy did what he did, Christians will also get offended. A case is already filed, i think against him, but legally, he did not break any laws. However, he has made a notorious reputation. Would decent people take him seriously now? He, himself has limited his audience. And we are not FOOLS to believe when he says it is an expression of his art. Let's call spade a spade. He is mocking Jesus, our God.

imo as a non-binary asexual in a heterenormative/hetero-dominated society and a religious country its hard to be different bc if ur a "gae person" people will automatically see u as a "salot" or in other words a disgrace and nobody wants to be gay bc whoever wants to be called a "salot" right? No one. The thing is even though im asexual i still identify as gae bc duh... im not straight and its a common misconception for people (mostly straight people) that we chose to be this way but honestly tho if ur straight, I wonder if you chose to be straight? Cuz im pretty sure you didn't cuz its who u are, same with us, its like this, if you're attracted to someone you don't say I chose to like this person 😅 nope! I don't think so like if you find someone attractive regardless of their gender its just like what they say love is love bc loving someone is not an option unless its tinder where you swipe left and right to get a match. Mind you i was homophobic once since growing up with a homophobic family I was made to believe that gay people are a disgrace but it doesn't mean that u are. Like, there are so many succesful gae people so but anyways its one of the reasons why I hid myself in the closet bc i was so scared to admit everytime someone asks me --Are you gay? And made me hate them (the gaes) bc I know for myself that i am too and it was hard since everyday I had to pretend being straight just to be accepted and not seen as different and I was in a really dark place where I did unspeakable things to myself bc I hated the idea of me being gay and i had no one to talk to about it. Also, if ur wondering how homophobic my family is, my dad used to drown me in the ocean (u have no idea how much salt water i've consumed) and hanged me upside down while asking me if i was gay when I was five and my grandma used to say that back in her day they would put u in a sack and beat u with a bamboo stick while hanging on a tree and my mother said that if she ever found out I was gay she would disown me. So yeah umm.. they're very accepting and I'm so grateful to have them bc that was an experience but that was all in the past and I don't really see it as a big deal anymore and I don't see the need to forgive them bc its not their fault, its their ideology and perception that made them do or say what they had to and to be fair, I've drowned myself more than twice too when I was 13 so i guess its a tie? I'm just taking this all lightly bc this might be triggering for some people who had past traumas abt some issues. I also have to adress that trans people doesn't necessarily have to be attracted to straight people altho it is possible but like what I said love is when you feel THE love not bc you chose to love them and I'm an empath so its easy for me to internalize other people's psyché and seeing myself in their shoes like some of them just wants to feel comfortable in their own skin by dresssing up however they want but there are some who thinks that once they become trans they can escape the fact that they used to be a guy or a girl and it makes them straight and it doesn't work like that people will still see you as that delusional gae person just bc you weren't born the way you felt like you were supposed to be I mean its not like we can choose our own genitalia inside our mother's womb, right? Lastly, I think Luka's act was seen as a form of mockery and yes I've also seen their video here in yt posted 3 years ago sayin that that its their way of showing devotion and they have been getting backlash since its hard for gay people to express their christianity being gay n all and mind u this was posted 3 years ago so why is this issue just coming out now? I'm so unsure abt why the need to dress up like the Nazarene tho when you know this was going to happen. They took the risk and now there are complaints leading to Luka's non persona grata to most of the cities in the philippines.

As far as I know, disrespecting Christianity was the reason why the beatles were practically kicked out from our country.

Because the chairman of MTRCB is the daughter of Tito Sen (a former Philippine Senate President) and his wife who made out on E.A.T program on TV5 not GMA7.

Can she do it against Muslim? If she can, then I dare him to do it then lets see how it goes.

I’m not religious but what he did was pure disrespect to the Catholic church. No need to “challenge” how people pray. making a very sacred song into a rock song is disrespectful. the dude knew it was wrong for him to do that in the philippines and just didn’t care. good thing he didn’t do this kind of thing in the middle east…and i also just saw an old vid of him doing a mukbang of the holy host, wafer for communion. i was like wow. i’m not even religious and it offended me. i’m sure he’s playing the victim card now, no sincere apologies, BS reason why he did it, he’s thought this out and has done it multiple times using the disguise of artsy expression for actual mockery/blasphemy. dude, tell me you’re satan without calling yourself satan 😆

I dare him/her/it/they to do the same stunt of the "prophet" Mohammed (pbuh).

Not GMA but TV5… the Original EAT BULAGA…

Those PEOPLE at the Club don't know what their DOING! They will get their own fair share at the time of their RECKONING! PURA LUKA VEGA will be seated on the right side of the King of the Fallen!!!

if you believe in jesus christ and has red the bible then you will understand y christian people react this way, i mean we are not perfect but we should learn also how to respect god or others and it doesn't look like art for me, he can use other things but not god...just my opinion if he just apologize then non of these persona non grata happens but he stand his decisions and there were consequences....

If i was any younger and can walk without any difficulty ill look for him, and make make him realize the blasphemy that he did, kakapunin ko yan at iiwanang duguan, sa mga deboto ng Poong Nazareno hanapin natin ang lapastangan na ito!!!😠

People who frequents gay bars (cause that place is def a gay bar or gay gathering. No normal bar will let something like that happen, customers, even males will throw beer bottles at him if he try that in a normal bar) in the PH are mostly extremely liberated adults & young adults. A typical Normal or Ordinary Filipino spends time with friends or family in a cafe or restaurant or bar with with food & music only - no drag show or anything. So all the people you see having fun with what he's doing is definitely not practicing Christian and most likely gay & into drag as well. Probably also upper-class people who couldn't care less about it. They will just enjoy cause it does not matter to them, there's no way they represent majority of Filipinos. I've had 1 chance of getting into one of those and I never returned. I don't like it. I don't find any fun in whatever they are doing. LGBTQ's are very free in PH but there are boundaries they must not cross.

That song can't be sang like that OK you can sing and praise God but that song is prayer for a catholic church. Baka pag nakita sya sa labas bka batuhin sya. You are all welcome in the Philippines but what he did he won't be famous he will be deported.

I mean why you asking for respect, if you cant respect others belief either.. respect is not given..