Forget MLA & QD-OLED… Mini LED is Still Best TV Tech for Living Room, Says TCL 

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"We know where you live"...🤣

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"If he buys, he buys"

TCL's very own He-Man!

Hes product development director. Means he's in design that to at director level, so thats why hes knowledgeable. Since hes speaking to tech youtuber. TCL probably asked him to take the interview.

Then they'd be in the ballpark of Sony and Samsung, pricing wise lol. So they'll keep doing what they're doing and make most of their money selling panels and other parts to Sony and Samsung

one word “China”

Extended warranty is probably the only solution to these lower priced TVs

@@g4meboy13 definitely. I was shocked though after I saw sony with 5 years warranty as standard.

You get what you pay for with these cheap brands… they are only worth it when they are properly functioning, which is almost never

Considering the pantonic chip isn't 4 full speed 2.1a ports, not all TV manufacturers have access to such a chip. LG and Samsung have created their own. TCL is a far smaller company so doing inhouse design of said chip is costly. Business is business.

Almost no one has PC+PS5+XSX and that's the only way more than 2x 2.1 is needed. So 2x HDMI 2.1 would be fine if the eARC port was a different one.

​@@concinnus isn't the earc port on hdmi 4 and the 1 and 2 support 4k/120/144?

@@eliaselias4647 I don't think I've ever heard of it being on a different port, but I don't watch MiniLED TV reviews, so maybe TCL does it right.

@@concinnus i saw the ports in this video

They were supposed to be releasing their own QD-OLED. Who knows if it'll actually happen now

​@@csi2448 As he explained, it just isn't really worth it from a bottom line standpoint. Also, given their current market position (and competition within the oled space as it is) it makes more sense for them to continue to develop their inkjet OLED tech and bring that to market when it is available.

@@winebartender6653 I'm not gonna lie, I haven't watched the video yet lol. Hopefully the OLED tech they've invested a lot of money into works out. Cause the last I heard, the company (not TCL/CSOT) wasn't doing too well

Dude you wouldn't wanna buy a oled by tcl. Lol look how vizio turned out. Trash 🗑

If TCL releases OLEDs it will be with LG WOLED or Samsung QD-OLED panels, so at best they will slightly undercut LG and Samsung prices You can see with a real TCL competitor, Hisense, that has OLEDs, but the prices are in line with other OLEDs

Oh yeah like the 1 millions hours lifespan of qd OLED that was busted by ritings XD

If you're still watching content in 480p that's a you problem 🤣

The lowest quality I can fathom is only set to 1080p. 1080p, 4k or nothing. Once you've been spoiled by 4K it's hard to go back. 720 and below that is an eyesore for me.

Disagree, lcd technology is pathetic 😆

And when will MicroLED be consumer price friendly? Says $2000 for a new 55", next 10 years? I wonder by then how well OLED will be by then though.

​@@charaznable8072 I don't think OLED has much of a future. Organic electronics are just too fragile, non-organic 3-led direct subpixels will be the ultimate display tech, IMO, and that's what we're waiting for. Until then, there's mini and micro led lit LCD.

@@MostlyPennyCat Yeah whenever micro led is consumer affordable let me know.

@@jarekzahary These "expert" opinions are thankfully getting more and more rare. The more commonn OLED is, the more people are getting the fact that it is yet another flawed tech that has its pros and cons. We saw similar with plasma when those "in the know" were describing it as the best thing since the sliced bread and yet LCD killed it when it became just half decent.

Sony oleds > Lg oleds

@@denissssss8579 certainly not for gaming

​@@denissssss8579 Ah, I see the fanboyism of TV manufacturers has already started in the comment section. Never takes long lmao.

@@mrsittingmongoose yes they are unless u game on pc but who cares about pcs. On Ps5 I have VRR, ALLM, and all the same modes on my Sony TV like ur stupid LG, stop generalising LG is for gaming cuz it’s not!!! Other brands are good for gaming too!

@@denissssss8579 too overpriced for what and how little it is improved from lg/samsung.

@El Cactuar really? That’s how you spend your time ? These are youtube comment, this is lawless land.

He has to review also the REDMAGIC 4K Monitor. Mini-Led, HDR1000, 165 Hz, HDMI 2.1, 1,152 dimming zones, 2,304 leds, 1000000:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio (typical), 1.07 Billion Color Support, 10 Bit Color Saturation, 99% sRGB, 99% Adobe RGB, 99% DCI-P3, Delta

@@tecnogadgethd You spent longer moaning at him about his correction than he spent correcting. Woopsie!

@@johnnypopstar fair enough. RU-vid law applied

@@tecnogadgethd I don't mind being corrected if it's said politely :)

You're blind or something? 😂

I bought one last week, it is an amazing TV, I paid 1200 AUD for a 65 inch, the next similar performing TV is around 2500 with only 1 year warranty, and I have 3. With PS5 and Series X, 4K 120HZ HDR 10 is the best gaming experience I have ever had, with PC it is stellar. It takes a bit of understanding how to set it up properly, but once you do, it's a fantastic TV.

@@dankeplace another 👆 blind dumb 😸

Is mini led also suitable for dark livingroom at night?

No no no work more and longer and buy the 85 inch that is a tv, a 55 inch is a small child tv, or for your computer. Greetings from a TCL fan

Was hoping Vincent would ask him about the C945.

@@SilvioManfredDante Guess we'll have to wait until September

You do not have to guess. The TV is already lauched in China, it has a brochure in tye Chinese.

Pentonic 1000

Consoles don't use Dolby Vision at 120hz but do use HDR10 at 120hz but most games only aim for 1080p at that frame rate, some will use checkerboard 1440p to get a sharper image until the player is in a battle or dense area

@@mightymushroom4980 not the question, mate

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@@adhom9053 Yeah it sucks... Prices did go down this month now its 1300 for the 65 inch model, I imagine it would be 1000 for the 55, still too much for last Years tcl mini led...

@@adhom9053 I paid $1200 AUD for a 65 inch, it is one of the best TVs I have ever owned, it is almost as good as the SX65 I have with blacks but excels with color and brightness. For gaming it is simply amazing. Major flaw, only 2 HDMI 2.1s, but I can live with that. The next TV that comes close in PQ is around 2500.

Liam Neeson lookalike kinda

I'm pretty sure he was the main villain in Tenet

The 85" X95K shows that it can happen

Chances are OLED advances will take over the mini LED. But I would see LED ruling in cheap and very big sizes categories. Those two are safe from oled

I wanted to go for the 900c but the 4k QD-OLED S95c has better colors.

@@whitecrowuk575 OLED prices are dropping though, and QD OLEDs have fewer layers, thus they could be cheaper to produce. Fewer steps. And inkjet OLEDs are easier still. On the other hand, to get an LCD to look competitive with those, you have to put in some effort. Lots of dimming zones are expensive.

@@kadajawi6567 still there will be cheaper LEDs available. OLED tech not going push LED out of low tier TVs

935 has known issues, I believe it displays a line on the top and only way to get rid of it is to have local dimming set to high. I went for the C835 instead, almost the same price but without that issue. You are better off with the newer model imo.

@@dankeplace flagship model has even more flaws than already measly 835? 🤣 LMAO 😂

@@jarekzahary 1 flaw, and you call the 835 measly? Have you ever even used one? Don't answer, seems like you're post will be ill-informed.

@@jarekzahary Pssst, probably better than an over priced OLED that has a blinking problem like yours eh?

​​​@@dankeplace 💯✖ better this than your smudging chinese junk 😸

What is your PC setup and refresh rates since there's no hardware for native 8K gaming? 😀

@@UniverseGd Now that we have HDMI 2.1 and DP2 signal bandwidth we can do 8K60 uncompressed on any card released after 2020.

You would need to be less than five feet away from a 65in tv to tell the difference between 4k and 8k. And then you have to consider that most classic movies were filmed on 35mm film which is only enough for 4k. Most modern movies are filmed at 6k and mastered at 2k just because it isn't worth it for them to render CGI at 4k let alone 8k. 8k movies would be limited to lower budget movies with little CGI like Parasite or something like that. It doesn't really make sense to make 8k blu rays. I think 8k screens in general will take a lot longer to enter the market than 4k did. The main downside is that they are dimmer than 4k with their smaller pixel aperture with almost no benefits (you need be sitting really close to them to tell the difference). Now if we start talking about >85in tvs, projectors, or >34in computer monitors, there might be an advantage to 8k, but it will take a decade for 8k to take any meaningful market share. I would much rather get lower compressed 4k than 8k right now

@@brandonchutt312 "most classic movies were filmed on 35mm film which is only enough for 4k" Christopher Nolan disagrees: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tpqC2nRfJp4.html Unless you're going to advocate for 6K as the next TV standard you need 8K to match original 35mm film.

@@brandonchutt312 "You would need to be less than five feet away from a 65in tv to tell the difference between 4k and 8k" Wrong. Look up the difference between "Visual Acuity" and "Hyperacuity", it's right there on Wikipedia. All of the viewing distance calculators out there right now only account for the 60PPD "Visual Acuity" standard, but "Hyperacuity" gives the average person five times greater perception of detail. Back in the 90's when they started the marketing machine for HDTV they knowingly ignored the facts about human vision and just acted like 60PPD was an absolute limit of human vision because it made a nice marketing pitch to convince billion dollar TV companies to upgrade, but ultimately that was all a lie from the very beginning.

That's what I also thought! 100%😂

Local dimming will be really poor in gaming mode. You can choose between good input lag without fast LD or slow input lag with good LD. SoC they put into the TVs are too slow to process signal fast enough to send proper signals to dimm LEDs and change the picture on the TV.

Not meant for PC gaming, these LCD TV displays with local dimming are for watching TV, movies and casual gaming, even the high-end monitor versions have severe blooming, ghosting, crosstalk, bad motion clarity, just not good for any serious gaming at all.

@@Wobble2007 Idk i need to learn more about that. When you check PC monitor to get mini led 144hz + even if only 1440p and not 4k they cost like 1300$ USD+ have smaller screen size like 34 inch and often have less dimming zones and Nits, peak brightness etc.

​@@sylvainh2o you can't really compare 800 zones on a 85" TV to 500 zones on a 32" monitor can you? Also miniLED TVs tend to disable/reduce local dimming zones in game/PC mode, or the response time will be horrendous. Monitors are more expensive compared to the same sizes of TVs for some reasons...

@@joseluislopes3956 Yeah Tvs are mass produced so the production cost is lower. Pc gaming monitor are always charged a premium specially MiniLed and Oled who are still kind of new. I was or should i say i am hopeful that Gaming Tvs seems to be catching up to gaming monitors. What if you can get a 55 inch tv which is just as good as a gaming monitor for a similar price. This would be incredible in term of value because much bigger screen size and you need a Tv anyway. Pc couch gaming setup are getting more and more popular.

Get the 845 if you can, I got the 835 and was astounded by gaming and also movies. Not deep blacks but they go pretty low. I have 2 plasmas that have ghosting just from general TV with channel logos. I watched 4:3 content for 2 days straight and got black bar ghosting. I now have a Hisense SX65 wuth 2 million dimming zones that is as good as my plasmas and also a TCL C835 which is amazing for an al-rounder vs $ I would never touch an OLED due to having to nurse it, something I don't have to do with either LCDs.

Which Oled tv is MLA?

@@Man_eee G3

@addebast Ah okay. I am debating between the S95c S90C or G3. Idk if the S95c is worth $800 more than the S90c both 77 inches

@@Man_eee s95c is a newer and brighter panel. If u considering the s90c it has the same panel as the s95b and that tv is a lot cheaper now

@@dante19890 But I'm considering the 77 inch S90c which has the same 2023 panel as the S95C..

You are talking about bedroom sizes. Anything < 50" is for a child's bedroom. 75" and up are appropriate for the living room. Lots of us can fit a 98" with ease into our living rooms.

You have some monitors with that like the Samsung Neo G8. There is no reason to have a 240Hz TV unless you want to use a 4K TV as a 1080p 240Hz monitor...

The 12.9 ipad m1 and later are it.

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Buhahaha 😹 Lcd is handicapped tech 😆

I think it’s still outdated until you can get the input lag instant like crt, plasma and oled, and get those dark levels too

@@Kevfactor inputlag of 6 ms vs 1ms, you wont know the difference, it's a proven science.

@@Kevfactor as for dark levels, OLED crushes blacks, that's why they use reference LCD dual cell monitors in Hollywood that OLED cannot match.

I was excited for OLED until they actually came on the market.

Exactly. I do not care much about image quality when the room is bright. If I can see anything, fine. It doesn't matter. I do not watch a movie when it is bright. I need perfect performance in a pitch black room. That is what I am paying for. For daytime use the cheapest possible TV would be fine.

Lcd is handicapped tech 😆 So fine maybe for handicapped people 😅

Sounds like you need to look at the QM8 as TCL hit it out of the park with that one. 90% of OLED performance for half the price.

@@deanwilliams433 Who told you such a bs? 😂 Buhahaha 😹 It has max 10% oled performance 😆 LMAO 🤣 You made my day 😸

@@jarekzahary Unlike you I actually have both

Adequate?? 144 dimming zones is ABYSMAL for a display that has MILLIONS of pixels.

@@PSYCHOV3N0M if you can have 72 zone vs 1 big zone then why wouldn't you choose the 72? Imagine the c645 comes up with that setup, at just 50 dollar more.

@@PSYCHOV3N0M the c835 has only 240 zones, and yet it has the best local dimming under 2k.

We don't normally get the nice stuff here. The 8 Series feels like it was ages ago. The market probably isn't worth it here. Cause even though they're the older models, the QN90B and X95K will undercut it

it’s not fhd it’s 3840 * 1080 which sounds very cool

It's not truly 240Hz and we've had 240Hz oled for a while now 😅

4k1k you're right, that's sweet. We'll have to see saw the slide with the different refresh rate, but not 55 inch OLED 240hz, otherwise there would be no question getting the C3 or otherwise S90C

@@lfesky 4k1k is not sweet and isn't still true 240Hz 😆 Shitsung for gaming? 🤣 Maybe if you blind 😅

Bruh, use an LG CX OLED, but that's hilarious fool, referring to the technique they use to get that resolution. Could come in handy for devices trying to push the envelope, i.e. handheld gaming think STEAMDECK 2 or something along those lines if it was there it would blow peoples top. He even say in this interview 8k isn't the target, but it's already here and as a matter of fact is the new standard even if the technology hasn't caught up with it yet. Just wait, in a few they gone be saying 4k is the new 1080p and if it's not on 8k we've been caught lacking falling behind. Safe to say it's 3840x1080p 240hz