Hi! Thanks for posting these shows, never heard of any of them! I was into both Lori Loughlin and Scott Bakula back then, and I'm surprised I didn't know of their shows, wow! Gave your video a Thumbs Up, but not Subscribed yet. I will check out more of your videos and maybe Subscribe! - Todd C (Creek Sider1)
I remember Kindred. I wasn't much of a fan of the show. I had a girlfriend that loved it, but couldn't watch it because of work schedule. So i used to tape it for her. 😁
It was on the bubble as a likely renewal, but Frankel's death(in a motorcycle accident. Not trying to be pedantic, but the departed deserve accuracy) made the decision for them. They had planned to introduce the Malkavians and the Tremere in season 2 as well.
It can't be that given the actor died months later after it was cancelled. Maybe there were some last ditch efforts to save the show inbetween the months. But it was cancelled for ratings.
I remember watching the show just cause I really liked supernatural/vampire stuff but it wasn't that good. It felt mostly like a show about mobsters. They didn't write the characters in a way that made you care about them at all.
Now, I don't think that's entirely fair; over 100 episodes of 'Quantum Leap' and 'Enterprise' are more than sufficient proof of Scott Bakula's wide range as an actor. 'Mr. & Mrs. Smith' was most likely a simple case of miscasting. Not EVERY actor is going to be right for EVERY part. ; )
I thought he was pretty good in that show. It's one of the ones I wished would have had more seasons. He seemed miscast in Enterprise, I didn't see him as a good Captain. But I think he could have been part of that crew in a different role. Most likely the ship's doctor or something like that. I only watched the first season and I'm told the show got much better in Seasons 3 & 4, so maybe he got better at the role.
@@rodh1404 Yeah, That's pretty much accurate. But I would watch all 3 seasons before making my final assessment, IIWY. (If you ask me though, he should more than enough range on 'Quantum Leap' alone.) Plus, you should check him out in 'Lord of Illusions' ; ) =)
@@josephshriner2850 I know, when I downloaded it they still had it in the messed up order. But that wouldn't have killed the show because they would have shown it more than once and could have fixed that. I think they just couldn't be bothered. You can tell by the ending they did give that it was being cancelled.
@@hotcrazycatladyme168 what I'm getting at is similar to what people claimed about Firefly. The episodes were placed in the wrong order, which made the story almost impossible to follow in a weekly format. I own the DVD of American Gothic. The episodes are in date aired order. A cancellation after a butchers approach to airing episodes is as good as killing the series.
Great show! I often forgot the name, though, for some reason. Most people I knew had the same problem, but everyone knew what I meant when I warned that they should get ready because Sunday Edition or occasionally The Saturday Paper, Gary's Paper or The Psychic Paper Show was almost on. 🤭 It's such an easy name that I recognize as soon as I see it, I don't get why it wouldn't stick. Back then, early edition was a popular newspaper term - so it wasn't an unusual term to hear either. So weird of me/us to have that mental block. 🤔🤭
I LOVE Early Edition. I have the first two seasons on DVD. I think the full series is now available and I want to get it when I can. My family watched it every week when it aired. It was such an interesting series and I liked seeing him trying to save people he read about in the paper.
“Someone’s at the door.” Was the major promotional tag line for the show. I was a kid when American Gothic came out and remember loving the show and was sad when it didn’t comeback for a second season.
Me too. I remember writing to CBS asking them to bring it back, and attached a "petition" that had a few legitimate signatures and the rest made up names I signed. A few months later, CBS brought it back to burn off the last 6 episodes that summer. I thought my letter caused that to happen. HAHA.
I remember how Friends was almost cancelled in the first season, the rating weren't good, networks need the shows to find an audience, its crazy how they pull the plug on shows so fast.
2 other big NBC shows almost got canceled because their ratings were mediocre to terrible- Cheers and Seinfeld. I think Cheers was next to last lowest rated show it's first season.
You missed that Kindred: The Embraced was doomed as Mr Frankel died in a motorcycle accident in September of 1996, so before the season had fully aired even. There was no way they'd get a season 2 without him.
@@JoeyArmstrong2800 when ANYTHING gets popular, everyone wants to copy that success; usually by the laziest/cheapest means possible without understanding WHY the thing was popular in the first place
They really want a Friends because the 18 to 29 demo is what advertisers want the most. Murder She Wrote received ratings on par with Friends, but old people watched that show and advertisers care less about reaching them.
When I was a very young man in the 90s me and a friend of mine used to go to test screenings of new shows all the time. I don't think any of the ones I've seen ever aired. They either gave us money or free dinner, I can't remember but there has to be 1000s of shows that most people have never seen or heard of.
I would have loved Kindred back then, since I'm a fan of Vampire: The Masquerade. Mr. And Mrs. Smith too, except I happen to always enjoy Scott Bakula in whatever I see him in.
Yeah that caught me off guard. He was so neutral and fair to most of the other actors and series mentioned in this video but Scott Bakula caught ALLLLLL the strays hahaha. This guy clearly hates him.
Most of these shows flew right under my radar. I was 26 in 1996, and I was clubbing at least 3 or 4 nights a week. But I did catch The Kindred. I love Vampire movies and Mobster movies, and this combined the two genres.
Kindred: The Embraced was a novelty show for that time, you know which network tended to take risks and do new concepts for shows back then, the director who was looking for ideas, he went to an RPG book store and someone told him that Vampire: The Masquerade was well loved, the book had it's own decorated shelf at that store, then KTE happened. The network that if you read about them, they used to be very impatient, they took risks but they were also afraid to fail hard, so KTE suffered by getting their time slot moved a lot, some episodes never getting broadcast and then the network rapidly deciding to cancel it, from 8 episodes only 6 were broadcast, it wasn't the show that failed for itself, but also people didn't see supernatural dramas back then, Buffy happened later. ShowTime had planned to pick it up for a season 2 and they were in works to get the rights, until the protagonist, Mark Frankel passed away in a motorcycle accident. They didn't think the series could work without his character Julian Luna, so they decided to not make it. If you know the lore of VTM, it could certainly have worked, but in those times in the 90s, maybe not, because of how viewers were back then. While the series wasn't verbatim to the lore, it also managed to interpret well different parts of it, that even the average fan of VTM don't get it. Lore is complex and rich.
So many good shows were canceled too early - Jason Batemen was in a few of them! They should bring back/reboot shows like Special Unit 2, Now and Again, New Amsterdam (2008), Time Trax, Sliders, Otherworld, Tomorrow People (1992), Forever Knight, Eerie Indiana, Brisco County Jr, Monsters, Brimstone, Out of This World, Friday The 13th: The Series, Mysterious Ways, Beyond Reality, Psi Factor, The Others, My Favorite Martian, The Ghost and Mrs. Muir, Boys Will Be Boys, Night Visions, Perversions of Science - These were just off of the top of my head, I could go on forever!🤭
You know that post-modern Hollywood has zero respect, nah, complete disdain for every old IP and would turn 9/10 into severely dumbed down, unrecognisable garbage for a mythical "modern audience" in which the heroes of the original would be subverted?
For the first few weeks of Partners, the show was called “Too Something”. That name was so terrible that Fox had a renaming contest and that’s where the name “Partners” came from.
With Kindred, it doesn't help that Fox kept shifting when it was aired, so it was hard to keep track of. American Gothic was great. Wish it had more time.
Yeah, Fox had that bad habit when they made a show but wanted an excuse to can it afterward of moving it around or when they right the right to air NFL football, on Game Day so it was always pre-empted or only had like 10 minutes left. They did the same with Firefly and I'm pretty sure Brimstone too
27:58 now, THIS??? I, DEFINITELY, remember!! I used to be VERY frightened, viewing this show!! This is, ALSO, where I was, FIRST, introduced to, BOTH, Gary Cole and Sarah Paulson 😚😚😚
I remember Hudson Street was picked as the number one best new show by TV Guide that year. They made a pros and cons list for it, and in the con section they wrote, “None at all based on the pilot. A sure fire hit.”
@@TheReviewStudios yeah, the funny part is, like you said in the video it didn’t keep my attention. Because I was a viewer of Roseanne and home improvement, but I don’t remember this show being in the middle. I must’ve changed the channel 😄
It was doing well until the show 3rd Rock From the Sun premiered on NBC. Viewers drifted toward that and it stole Hudson Street’s audience. To add insult to injury, Ted Harbert, then president of ABC Entertainment, could have picked up 3rd Rock but he turned it down, yet he picked up Aliens in the Family, Maybe This Time, and Hudson Street-three shows that didn’t live to see a second season.
We have a handful of leftover titles to work into the next TV shows video. Profit is one. With Kindred and American Gothic making it into this video list, it felt like Profit was better suited to have it's own space in the next list. Thanks for asking! Others will surely be wondering the same.
It's kind of funny that Kindred the Embraced didn't have many viewers. Because I remember how hard Fox was pushing the show... So many commercials, it's really too bad because the show really started to find it's feet after a few episodes and I could totally see it digging deeper into the Vampire and World of Darkness lore if it had stuck around.
I roughly remember American Gothic, don’t really remember any of these other shows. In my defense, PlayStation was really popular in 1996 and I don’t remember many TV shows! Great video!
If youre wondering why Jennifer Aniston appeared on a episode of Partners... on a competing network.. Partners was on FOX and Friends was no NBC... She was dating Tate Donovan at the time
THANK YOU for this!!! I’m looking for ALLLLL these shows, hoping to catch some good ole rewarmed, cheesy, 90s nostalgia 😇😚🕰️⌛️⏳ ETA: omg….and the CHEEZE-O-RAMAIC theme songs are giving me LIFE 6:59 🤣🤣🤣
I used to watch American Gothic for a couple weeks. Then I completely forgot it existed. Nothing ever stood out about it yet I somehow remember it 30 years later.
I remember watching American Gothic. I was young, but my mom loved it and let me watch. We were both mad we never got more of it. And when we reference anything horror, "someone's at the door" always comes up.
I swear it seemed like American Gothic was loosely based on the Andy Griffith show if it was a horror film. Small town sheriff with a son dating a teacher with the goofy deputy. There’s even an episode where Lucas Buck is whistling the Andy Griffith theme. This was an amazing show. It was almost like the network (or someone with strings to pull at the network) had it out for this show. It never stood a chance. Shows were aired out of order. And several times when a TV special of any kind aired, it was placed in America Gothic’s time slot bumping it. And then they would air American Gothic in a totally different slot that was their normal place. There was clearly industry politics being played out. Someone higher up sabotaged that show.
OMG. I was just about to say. At first, I was thinking, "Okay, you don't like him in this.", but then it kept going and going. All the shade blocked out this sunny afternoon. 😎 I liked Mr. and Mrs. Smith and American Gothic. But especially Kindred: The Embrace. I liked the main romance with Julian and the character played by Kelly Rutherford.
I loved Kindred the Embraced. I own the series on DVD. I played the TTRPG back in the day. The weird thing was that this had very little to do with the TTRPG. Not enough to appeal to the fans completely and too weird to appeal to mainstream audiences.
I was just a kid in the 90s so I never saw any of these shows. But now I’m intrigued to look these up (if anything, to see youtube clips and look up cast members)
I loved Kindred so very, very much. I know it was basically Melrose Place with Vampires, but there really was a lot to love about the characters and the world, and I think they were on the right track of getting the cast whittled down to where it needed to be. Mark Frankl's death was just the nail in the coffin, and I've always wondered what a premium cable network could have made of it. It's sad that one of the best episodes of the entire first season went entirely unaired and can only be found on the DVDs. I re-watch the whole show every couple of years and the nostalgia comes flooding back.
Thanks to Scifi Channel for showing Kindred back in the day. Would love to see a reboot of Kindred: The Embraced. Though I don't think another actor would be as good as Mark Frankel as Julian. I at least liked the storyline between Sasha and Cash.
I remember most of these shows; well the promos for most of them but I do remember them. The one series I was hoping you'd cover is called "The Show". A short-lived Fox sitcom about a white comedy writer who works in a black sitcom. I'm one of the few people who remembers it.
The only thing I remember from that show is a scene where everyone had prop guns, so they decided to reenact every Quentin Tarrantino movie. "True Romance!" Everyone points guns at each other. "Reservoir Dogs!" "Pulp Fiction!" and so on.
Kindred: The Emrbaced had a few issues, but I felt it did well. Heck, my Boomer aunt and uncle watched the show, having no knowledge of roleplaying. Also, Mark Frankel was tragically killed in a motorcycle accident not long after the show concluded.
Just yesteday I was watching a Monday Night Football broadcast from the mid 90s between the Lions and 49ers. The intro that night was a skit between Lori Loughlin and Tony Danza. I could not figure out why the network paired them for the opening, but I now realize it was clearly to tie in and promote Hudson St.
Only ones I remember are Kindred and American Gothic. Kindred had Vampire the Masquerade fans pretty pissed off at the time for how it mangled the lore.
I don't know why the networks kept trying to make Bonnie Hunt a thing. She just didn't ever seem to appeal to viewers, yet execs kept trying to ram her down everyone's gullet.
This time, you got 2 of them I'm familiar with, and funny enough, both Supernatural themed, Kindred The Embraced and American Gothic. Both of which dad had some episodes on VHS and later found them online. The other 8, I've never heard of, and other than a few episodes on RU-vid, didn't have much luck. Though Hudson Street, basically Tony from Taxi and Who's the Boss working as a Detective who never tries to solve cases, yeah, doesn't sound too exciting. 😉😂🤣 Anyways, enjoyed the video. Thank you.
Wow actually learned something new watching this. Didn't realize Kindred was based off of Vampire the Masquerade nor did I know that the game was originally a tabletop board game. I remember playing it on PC when it first came out. Also loved the series. I was a teenager at this time.
