Former All Black Justin Marshall Reviews New Zealand's' Tense 24-17 Win Over England 

Bro 100% - the ‘Reiko at centre’ experiment has run its course. Billy is a specialist (and more traditional) centre in the form of his life.

If there was one who had poor game is was Reece and not Reiko the English defense disrupts attacking teams, the ABs were under pressure all game yet made some good decisions at critical points which won they the game. Well Beauden was exceptional

Rieko was only ever great on the wing! He realistacally never gets picked over any on the top 3 teams' 13. Infact, I'm struggling to name a centre I'd pick him over, in the Rugby championship, possibly even NZ super rugby sides.

Hes a 11 not a 13 fozzy ruined him

In saying that big question marks over our locks/locking combinations. SA, France & Ireland will see potential weaknesses in our forward pack when we come to play them later in the year. Can't rely on the talent in our backline to get us over the line.

they lost fiji too

These are just media questions you ask

Agree Rogaird and Jordan will be key in setting up play, still missing good couple of locks and a 6 to take their role, not convinced on DMac locking in 10 yet either... He probably will get this season to prove it. Christie at 9 is still a worry being slow off the ruck, hoping TJ is back next week and Ratima continues off the bench untill roigard is back. Perefeta has been decent at fullback but still want a Jordan coached by Razor to be our test 15.

Our scrum dismantled England on the weekend and look at bench front row came,we will only get better come end of year tour ​@virgboogie

Sorry but you can’t be serious saying Rieko is ‘great defensively’. He consistently falls off tackles.

@@ryansmith2553 just gonna have to agree to disagree with you on that

Reiko is great defensively. On attack he's been doing the hard yards well, but seems to not have much vision. ALB is too slow however for attack I think even if he tries. Proctor looks the goods but of course needs time in the saddle.

reiko has never been a 13, dose couple things in a test, allwayz out position on defence, upsets the backs defence patterns, we had 4 soft trys out wide, i dont recal that many in 2 tests.

But the ABs wingers scored tries that contributed to the win.Thats all that matters.

Thefein lies much of the problem. NZ players generally don't kick. Only a few have the skill. Couple of comparisons. Compare Telea to Reece. Telea never kicks . Attack or defence. Reece made two huge defensive kicks relieving pressure at Dunedin and Auck. Sylvia Brunt yesterday twice displaying how effective a well executed kick behind the defence can be.

best lock in both tests is 195, having taller lock doesn't translate to better lineout

Finau’s had like 3 tests bro cmon 😂

Agree...we need some tall timber that is young enough to develop over the next 3 years. Lord and Darry fit the bill. Holland needs more time to prove himself at super rugby level and see if he has a big enough engine for test footie. Assuming Darry plays well for the NZ 15 he should be brought into the AB camp for the rugby championship in the place of one prop or a loosie. Paddy gets through a lot of work but does not have the muscle at test level to monster world class opposition. As for the loosies...we do not have the right balance there. Ardie needs to be moved back to onside flanker and Blackadder tried at offside or 8...he was awesome at blindside before his injuries. Try Dalton or Sititi at 8 and put Finau and Jacobson on the bench. Finlay Christie may be good on defense but he is slow at clearing the pill. He hesitates, double pumps, and telegraphs his intentions. We need Roigard back and an instinctive scrummie with a fast clearance like Cortez Ratima. Another one that needs to be sidelined is Rieko. ALB and Billy Proctor can defend just as well but have the vision for space, awareness of those either side of them, and pass (both sides) that Reiko lacks. Proctor has also been in awesome attacking form...which was the original X-factor that Reiko brought and which he has lost. Time to sit him and force him to find his mojo. Maybe try Narawa and Clark on the wings this weekend with BB at fullback and Perofeta on the bench. And while we're at it, lets see how a front row of Williams, Aumua and Tosi go against Fiji...start them and bring in DeGroot, Bell and Newell...sit Taylor.

I honestly don't think that starting midfield partnership is the way to go...no real cohesion is there and they've had plenty of time in the saddle

Lord has had plenty opportunities and showed ZERO. Even at super rugby level. Dary has been injured for ever, has really haven't seen him actualise his promise. Vaai, was very impressive off the bench. The best non AB lock we had this year was Jamie Hannah.

@TWOVO1 Telea cost 2 tries by not defending kick passes, caught out of position 1st ENG try, didn't get off the ground 2nd ENG try. I didn't see the Reece one you refer to, but I do remember he got skinned flatfooted by the Eng winger leading to the final lineout.

And England lost both tests 👀

He had his opportunity years ago and didn't do much..

@@sollyharr Proctor? Proctor hasn't debuted yet. You're thinking about his older brother.

@@Tom_McMurtry are we talking about Billy proctor?

The ABs never intended to win the match in Twickenham. They purposely put themselves under pressure as a test, like they did in the pool stages of the 2015 RWC. The opening test against France they weren't at full strength

@@naisyjohns all part of fozzies genius plan I'm sure

Whose calling that though. People that only watch when the ABs are playing or people who watch rugby from all parts of the rugby world.

Good chat bra

Nah the NZ rugby public know without any misconception just how good the red roses are so the days of dismissing them is on par with the Abs aura bs over

Quinn Tupaea is 102kg, and has plenty of speed, good vision, and knows how to pass and kick. Will be interesting to see how he goes in the NZ-15.

Fair comment. Jordi does have some great wider distributing skills however, but may be worse at the closer sleight of hand. Agree on Devlin not being a smart commentator.

Well there was a lot of defensive work undertaken by the forwards.

@@clarke1319backs made more tackles than forwards.

@@markthompson7817 all of the backs made a total number of tackles that was greater than the total number by the forwards.? Really? And the numbers were? I want to see how far you will take that statement Mark.

No forward did except for the scrum

@@joedennehy386 thats probably true. Our scrumming seems top notch but out forwards seem to lack mobility. Even ardie was quiet

Agreed, Rieko needs to go. I would give Billy Procter a shot, proven combination with Jordie. Razor needs to start holding the old Fozzie guard to account

@@ryansmith2553 that means we have a ratima dmac highlanders combo and a jordie proctor canes combo. Genius.

Also agree re Samapini, he did absolutely nothing of note. Was surprised he got the nod for the second test

Anything positive about anybody?

😂😂😂

Even more in the loosies I thought

Concerns at lineout time yes but we did just lose probably the best or near best locking pair in the history of the game and it did improve in second half. One area of concern for me is how flat footed the forwards are when going through phase play from ruck to ruck. Our 9 passes and only with ball in hand do the big boys start running and nearly every time are getting tackled on or behind the gain line. We look off the pace in that area. One positive is when was the last time the ABs went two consecutive games with the full 15 on the field for the entire 80??

Regardless of how we go for the rest of the season, anything,and I doo mean anything would be better than that plank foster.

Yeah Blues fan over here....? 😊

What’s the new team bs? Nothing new about them ...

@thrusta100 yes its called the new management Team. Wake up.

@@patrickgrogan3578 “ management “ don’t take the field! Nice try , but few debutantes played, almost exact same cattle

@@thrusta100 new management new game plan I never said the management take the field you did dah

Reading all the commentary is interesting and I would think that it is going to take a while to get a polished all black team after loosing Whitlock and Rettalick in the forwards and Will Jordan

Brodie got binned more than he played 😂😂

@@greatwhite9428 Still can beat the work rate and his vast lineout experience.

If Christie doesn't start, he doesn't play. He offers nothing off the bench.

100% agree with ALB..Rieko aint cut out for mid field...try him as impact winger

Jordie and ALB is a lacklustre midfield

n wot da fk would u know "Dev" ..

Yes the Blues backline looked average a couple of years ago under Leon McDonald. The same old second man plays that create nothing.

Who would you of picked?

Tj is world class. Would walk into any 23 in the world, that's why he is picked. I'm not sold on Christie. Would of rather saw fakatava and Cortez in behind tj

Then why are ya hear listening and commenting on his videos ? I can’t stand the breakdown but I don’t go on their videos and write my opinions in the comment section 🤷‍♂️🙄

​@@88-V-..-A-..-N-88but here you are with your opinion in the comment section 🤔

And yet here you are listening.

actually foster would of lost to this english team. He lost to argentina ffs

@@Edgycoothey actually played some better rugby last year compared to what we have seen so far this year

Because of Joe Schmidt

@@brianingram4709 it doesn’t matter , has razor got good assistants or not ?

@@camwells9726 who the all blacks? youre saying without aron smith, retallik, sam whitelock, cane, will jordan, all gone, 9 days prep, we would of won with foster? youre crazy