I notice the fuck out of that too every time hes on... he adds just a little bit of input or opinion just to agree then strays off the topic to guide the narrative away or to things.
Puberty-stage adolescents are neither children nor adults. Children represent individuals who have not yet reached puberty (pre-puberty individuals). Adults are post-puberty individuals . The term "underage-women" refers to the legal age of sexual consent as it relates all persons who have undergone puberty (sexual maturity). Since the young women Epstein had sex with were not pre-puberty individuals, they cannot biologically be classified as children since children exist in a pre-puberty biological state. With regards to the legal age of consent when it comes to the matter of sexual intercourse, the law on this matter differs from country to country.
Frank Castle well, the saying goes “once a company man, always a company man”. Even and especially among company men. But I get your point and totally agree. (Oh shit, the company has my name...)
You gotta give it to Mike Baker. I bet he was a great case officer. He instantly takes the other person's temperature on the issue. Then both agrees with them and matches their energy. He can makes witty quips very in line with the other person's opinions and comes across as very likeable. And he does all of it without actually giving any information whatsoever. It's pretty damn impressive.
The nature of the CIA is such that it has secrets within secrets. This man can say honestly that as far as he knows they don't do that..because he has never seen it done..but the overwhelming evidence has told us that in fact they do operate this way. Not to mention he is under lifetime contract to never divulge such information. So hey..great story and I still enjoy and appreciate his contribution here.
Yeah people always get so upset that he doesn’t come on the podcast and drop a bunch of groundbreaking secrets that we never knew about the CIA which is such a goofy thing to ever actually think to be possible. For one, some of the super serious shit if it in fact exists would still be well hidden in the organization and you wouldn’t be likely to even know anything about it if you weren’t an extremely high ranking officer in the org and probably would have to have some sort of need to know aspect on top of that. It seems like some people have it in their mind that you simply work there and suddenly you learn everything about all that’s happened or happening, even the most protected shit, by virtue of working there. This dude was a field officer. He wasn’t working in the actual office and making all the plans. He was the dude carrying out the shit he was told to do by the office folks. But even if we ignore all of those things that very realistically could mean there are more covert shit he may have no clue about because he wasn’t at a level where he’d be the guy involved in it do people not realize he wouldn’t be allowed to talk about any of that shit? If the dude came on and spoke out about all the stuff people think he should he’d be arrested in a heartbeat for espionage etc etc. So the whining is so silly. The only merit I’d give the complaining is that if he can’t truly share anything maybe he shouldn’t be speaking long form on stuff he can’t truly be transparent about. But even so I enjoy what is there because I set the realistic expectations of what I’ll hear.
I came into chat just say this but, you both said it better. The compartmentalized nature of the agency can be the only answer why this guy could "honestly" say that the agency doesn't use honeypot techniques.
What’s that movie I think it’s called “The Good Shepherd” with Matt Damon Angelina Jolie Robert De Niro etc. showing the beginnings of the OSS and formation of the CIA and man the job sounds great and all but the way you have to live where you can’t trust anything anyone says no matter what and everyone’s always trying to stab you in the back
I know right. Like we don't ALL know that the CIA (and any intelligence agency for that matter) would do whatever it takes to obtain the intel they want.
Once an agent, always an agent. Dude aint breaking his oath, he knows what not to say, what would get him in a 'fatal car accident' or 'shot during a mugging' type shit.
Mike Maolucci i get excited when i see this guy is on, and 5 minutes in i remember he never says a damn thing, except about his kids with dumbass names
@@jon8004 They killed Mcafee too, I never said the CIA killed him, the Government did or some shadow entity that has their blessing. So this man gets a sweet heart plea deal and the Government at every level just let this shit happen while many utilized his services. We know the CIA does the most shadiest shit and compromising Americans and highly influential people globally is not beneath our Government intelligence. I literally just heard this guy break it down after claiming they don;t do it. They do it, all the time!
He was a hedge fund manager, insider information was very valuable to him. He became so proficient at blackmailing to obtain this information he spun off a blackmailing enterprise and together they provided him with huge leverage and annexed many high profile individuals who were caught in the web just by being associated with him.
I suspect it came from the billionaires who he set up in very compromising situations and then blackmailed them. Les Wexner supposedly GAVE jim his multi-million dollar apt. In Manhattan. Who the hell does THAT? Blackmail.
The most upsetting thing to me is it is 2 years since this video was made. And here we are. Nowhere and with no answer and justification for the victims. Money really does buy power.
Money doesn’t buy power money is power and we already knew that Epstein was going to “kill himself” before they did it because of his connection to bill Clinton. And all we could do was make memes
Thank you for your interesting podcasts, so grateful. We could all help move the needle on a topic to the benefit of all children and women around the world, and to resolve international crime💟
I love how everyone says, “I’m not a conspiracy theorist but…” If you don’t believe this entire world was built on conspiracy, then you’re ignorant or you’re lying! There are thousands of books out there by very credible investigative journalists, that should have put many people in prison for life! But those who pay the bills, call the shots! (Pun intended!)
I remember that interview with Bill Gates where they asked him about Epstein, and he just said something like "Well, he's dead now, so..." It sent chills down my spine.
@@grimmertwin2148 respectfully, they don’t care conspiracy theorists. They already pushed the narrative that conspiracy theorists are crazy and a few hundred thousand out of hundreds of millions of people questioning them isn’t that big of a deal to them
100%... He's usually so calculated and thoughtful in what he says. But that just flew out unfiltered 🤣 and my jaw hit the f***ing floor. Before he said that, I'd had a slim bit of hope that he was just too awkwardly to notice the Pedo vibe. But no way. Dude was like pretty happy to see an "acquaintance" dead and toss that memory into the closet with his hard drives. Like BLECHHHH It just ruined any good he's done by way of technology. And now he's buying up ridiculous amounts of farmers land. Bill Gates is scum to me.
"We lied, we cheated, we stole" - Ex-CIA director Mike Pompeo This agent definitely knows whats going on. He plays the same game. They are trained to do so.
LoL everyone does this. I dont care who you are, no one is clean. Youve stolen something - everyone just has this stupid excuse on why its not considered stealing. Thats what the common stereotypical bad guy is for - so we can see someone dirtier than us.
The CIA is well known to make use of honeypots. He's just outright lying. In the 40s and 50s they bugged restrooms in theaters to glean information, they've run brothels and recorded clients, and they were part of Jeffrey Epstein's scam. Epstein wasn't a billionaire, he was an agent probably for Mossad, Mi6, and the CIA. Alex Acosta even said he Epstein was "intelligence" which is why he couldn't throw the book at him, and had to settle for a 3 year puff sentence.
@@davidmaitland3238 *"You're cooked mate"* Why bother to say anything, when you've said nothing? WTF does "you're cooked mate" even mean? Especially in regard to what I've said? A dumb response like that, could literally be applied to anything anybody has ever said. That is one of the most meaningless, pointless responses I've ever seen.
@@tythompson4794 under-aged women/men= teenager (13-17), children= children. either way its all the same in the end. both are illegal and saying underaged women instead of children has the same principle in meaning
The average number of hours in a day that people need to shower+sleep. Meaning that he could easily reorganize his life around "jail time" so that it basically becomes meaningless.
@@S4Daves Nope, it's not about race/racism, as much as the elite would like you to blindly believe (because then you're no threat to them). It's much more ancient... and sinister
There's also no way a guy with this much dirt on powerful people didn't have something to be released publicly if he was killed. He's on an island somewhere. Not dead.
The term "conspiracy theory" was invented by the CIA in the 1970s They created it to undermine and discredit anyone who claimed the CIA was engaged in conspiratorial projects
Bill Barr was best friends with Epstein's father...a father who penned a sci-fi novel that was about colonizing a planet with a harram of underage girls...yup nothing to see here...smh
I love how he says “we don’t use those tactics” and throws the “they won’t believe” me bull in front of it, then he proceeds to explain how the cia would do that exact thing to other countries😅😂🤦♂️ obviously guy was trained how to do it because it’s a tactic that gets used by everyone.
He immediately lied too, said the queen kicked Andrew to the curb over the allegations.. she still hasn’t and the royal family are as close to openly pedophiles as you can get in the western world Wouldn’t trust this assholes opinion
Ben Abbott oh here comes the Brits with their systemic pedophile defending culture... ABC had victims of Andrews ready to be interviewed 3 years ago and got pressured from the queen and other top royals according to the lead investigative journalist.. even right wing British tabloids admit that the queen is sticking by Andrew privately, so you can fuck off with the creepy pedophile defending... just because it’s sown into your culture at every single level doesn’t mean other people are as easily tricked
Bob Dance yeah it’s an open secret in England that the royal family are enormous pedos.. the defence that royalists have is that the law doesn’t apply to royals therefore it’s not pedophilia
They don’t care how obvious it looks that he didn’t kill himself, they just know that it’s near impossible to prove. And that’s all you need to get away with it.
That and some lazy diversity hire guards who are too busy surfing the internet to walk 15 feet and check if the highest profile prisoner in the world is still breathing.
Watching this today, there is something VERY OFF about this “former agent”. His intentional body language to come off “jittery” to distract you. He also brings up Maxwell, intentionally pronounces her name wrong but then her correct name rolls off the tongue but then says “I’ve heard it said both ways with the S”. You think the CIA is that stupid to allow a former agent talk about this without their oversight? CIA probably has intentional “former” agents whose role is exactly shit like this, doing interviews since people often fall for appeal to authority.
CIA Guy: "No, the Agency doesn't do that. We don't do that. We don't try into coerce somebody into a relationship that we can take advantage of." .... CIA Guy (30 sec later) : **explains very detailed, specific, and Western-sounding example of how to do exactly that** Ok, guy.
Are you saying the CIA paid this guy some cash and said "go in there and do damage control on this Epstein thing... because Joe keep his audience riled up." (Quiet him down he's got too many followers0 ?
I'm pretty sure there's no such thing as a FORMER CIA agent. Like with the mafia, you don't just quit. You know too much. You are a lifetime soldier for a secret organisation. You don't just hand in your resignation.
I think he says a lot of stuff, in a discreet way. Think this guy just gonna list all the classified information in the world? What do you think how fast he would.. get suicided
People forget that the government workers will never expose the government unless they fully turn their back on them.. & with that is death but if everyone could hold one head & fight these high people.. we win.. robots can never be smarter & wiser than humans.
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I bet he really had a look alike killed in his place and that’s why they showed us the body. I bet the whole “he killed himself/he was really murdered” theory was the basic misleading conspiracy that was convincing enough for the masses to accept and stop searching for a deeper truth
@@questioneverything4120 idk the liar and cheater one isnt nessisarly true. I was a massive cheater when I was younger, couldnt keep it in my pants. I havent cheated in so long now, the concept is revolting to me. And the woman I'm with I havent even came close to cheating on once. Depends on the person I guess
mike baker openly runs a "consultant" company with other ex spies. which obviously means the agency (and other powerful people internationally) probably goes to him when they need to go outside their walls. he may not be with them but he is with them if ya know what i mean
Gabriel Lukkes: The absence of desire to cheat in recent years, contrary to your past serial cheating, may have more of a physiological basis though (as in, changing libido or testosterone levels). I'm sure greater emotional maturity may also play a part, of course.
Joe Hogan Thank you, knew I couldn’t have been the only one hearing him speak out of both sides of his shit eating mouth. “Maybe our kids are on the same soccer team.” Fucking manipulative pieces of shit. And it’s just normal everyday shit to them.
Joe Hogan They’re the fios lady who’s excited to learn about your marijuana habits. They’re the other bowling coach that’s always interested in what you’re up to. They’re the customer that takes an extra interest in you and tries to lure you to their private homes where they ask questions about your life and how you feel about America. Once you wake up and see these narcs, you see they’re everywhere.
His response was so passionate, clear, and detailed that is seems very unlikely that his statement that the "agency doesn't do this" is true. He relived the scenario as if he had personal experience. This is clearly something he has spent a ton of time thinking about, in the very least. He also seemed to know a ton about the case while also knowing nothing about it at all. His body language just screamed that something was off, at least to me. It was very weird to watch. Perhaps he is just uncomfortable as so many will assume he knows more, but the way he acted suggests he probably does.
More like disgusting. Agree with something that may not be agreeable to the cause because lying about it just confirms dishonesty. Give that initial truth to establish honesty so your lies in the following narrative are hidden by the initial precedent of truth.
He was a classbook narcissist, he would have never offed himself - he thought he was way too important in this world to do it. My father is a cronic narcissist and I know how they operate. He either got killed or escaped prison by buying his way out, 100%.
Epstein worked for Israeli Mossad and ran blackmail operations on politicians and celebrities...How do you think they got everyone to run with this bullshit covid narrative??? Bribery and blackmail
You can be a doctor and not be a part of BIG PHARMA. Just like you can be in the CIA and not be the part of the group that involved in public misinformation.
@@Chyeahokay That's just not true. Here's the definition for you.. Conspiracy: a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful. It says nothing about not knowing "what really happened."
Good to see most of the comment section realise that this guy who worked for the government isn’t the best person to actually listen to much less believe anything he says
I used to do prison work.....you dont put someone that important in a run down, un staffed, under equipped prison like that....especially when they are also on suicide watch.....
Well you don’t if you really want them to stay alive. I don’t know why anyone is surprised by anything Clinton does. The Clinton family are powerful psychopaths.
Suicide watch is supposed to be you alone in a turtle suit in a bare room. You get nothing. No sheets,no mattress just a concrete slab and you in a turtle suit.
Just because he never got used as a boy toy, doesn't mean it's a tactic they don't use. And I am certain they use every tactic. It's the CIA.... Their mandate is basically "don't get caught".
The same people telling you you’re a conspiracy theorist are the same people who say Trump is on the flight list.. but will refuse to show the full list in its entirety. Very odd to me..
Yeah because we would not want any CIA jackal to be in any danger would we? END THE CIA NOW AND TERRORISM AROUND THE WORLD WILL DROP 90 PERCENT. For any of you with your heads in the sand. Start with the Wiki on Operation PBFortune and PBSUccess. They have not changed in 67 years. Watch this video and know that the CIA did this to America. The CIA ruined America. This video will show you. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OG4vJxi9Kis.html
Wouldn’t it be so easy for them to have just blamed it on the braun cell mate and say he killed Epstein in the cell? Like is it possible that it went down like that?like the cell mate was paid off to kill him idk I’m high
They put his 'cellmate' in with him to put his dna in the room, moved him out 2 days to pull suspicion off him. Then walked him back in to do the deed. Killer wasnt in the room, he was transferred. The only dna in the room is Epstein's and the room mates, Clearly he killed himself.
