a collection of forrest wang's lead runs from top 16 battles leading up the collision with chris forsberg. Wang has announced he will not continue in Formula Drift Competion.
This is why they need to stream the drivers meeting. The judges keep throwing in all these random rules and things they personally want and majority of the fans are'nt understanding or agreeing. Im glad I missed this livestream, I would've been pissed and shut it off anyways.
the amount of respect i have towards forsberg is at an all time low he straight hit forrest wang and is proud of winning knowing damn well he shouldnt have such bad sportsmanship might aswell watch soccer
He could have admitted he was at fault when he was on the interview but no hes stands proud thinks hes so good about his win over forrest this is just bad sportsmanship and i have lost insterest in fd
+Chrisman17 but he is not at fault! Forrest slowed down on a part of the track where you should be speeding up. That's the consecuence of putting way too much angle, you lose speed.
chase driver must follow the lead driver as long as the lead run is followable. all of wang's runs looked the same throughout the day. it pissed tyler off to slow down but he figured it out quickly. forsberg just powered through the smoke screen and smashed wang.
+Jeff Sanders (4DSCdude) wrong. If the lead driver goes out of the track or does anything wrong the chase driver is not supposed to follow him. They explained it during the drivers meeting. "On that transition we want the drivers to be on power and accelerating, not slowing down". Forsberg was doing what Formula D was asking. Unfortunatel Forrest slowed down on the part where he should have been accelerating, Forberg being behind the smoke assumes the lead driver should be accelerating so he kept going and suddenly after coming out of the smoke Forrest's car is almost 90 degrees from the track. It's not Forsberg's fault. Forrest didn't follow the judging criteria and he is at fault for the crash. You can argue all you want, but the fact is that slowing down on an accelersting zone could even be considered sandbagging. And Im 100% sure that Forrest wasn't sandbagging or intentionally slowing down, its just his driving style slows him down for putting way too much angle.
its simple chase car is supposed to shadow the lead car. more rules = more third party control. trying to say there's only one way to drift? not what drifting is about. sounds like a commercial for big brands if you ask me. disgusting.
I agree with the judges. Forrest is one of my favorite drivers and has incomparable style, unfortunatelly too much style on the fast transition zones slows you down a lot.
that's no excuse to let forsberg win though. the FD staff said that you have to adapt to the person you are chasing, and Wang has always had big angle so forsberg out of all people should have known. Also, Wang did not lose speed, Forsberg got faster and hit him. Also whatsup paco, phantom here. xD
Except what he did was not justified. Forrest was off-throttle after he gained such an amount of angle all of a sudden. You can clearly see that he wasnt on the desired angle he wanted coming off the bank so he snapped right before the clipping zone which caused him to lose alot of speed where he shouldve been on-throttle already.
the problem with what he did not "being justified" is totally wrong. they let him do it every time until forsberg hit him, then it was because forrest was scrubbing speed. he never lost points for going slow through there in earlier rounds. so they should have given him the loss to tyler mcquarrie if they didn't like him going slow through there. once they allow it, they have set precedent and forrest did the same thing every lead run including when forsberg ran into him. in real life anytime someone hits you from behind it's their fault because they didn't have control of their vehicle. drifting is dancing, follow the lead, be graceful and if you hit someone when they are doing what they did all day, you should take the loss. if forsberg would have said "you know, i think i lost that battle because forrest did that all day and my spotter didn't warn me how slow he was going through there" then people would still like chris and forrest would still be in FD.
Jeff Sanders Wrong, I suggest you watch Wreckedmagazine's article about the run. They show clear evidence and proper explanation on why forrest lost. The only reason that you would disagree with the call would be if you're not educated enough on the matter, which i seriously think you are. Also Forrest said he's not quitting because of the call, but he has been thinking about quitting since last year.
Regardless of how its called. They show clear evidence that Forrest was at fault and they also provided a clear picture of the on- and off-throttle parts on the track for the retards that dont know where you're suposed to be on and off the throttle which was shown in the drivers meeting. Lets not forget that they admitted that forrest wang had a bent control arm and caused toe out. Toe out causes over-rotation. But yes, the case they tried to make is totally in the wrong despite giving actual proof by people who have been doing this for far longer than most viewers.
I love Chris Forsberg and have a ton of respect for him. It's not Forsberg's fault the judges ruled inconsistently. Wang should have either lost to TMQ for the same thing, or he should have beaten Forsberg since chase car contacting lead car is a 0 per the FD 101 page.
What ever happened to the policy of the chase driver not hitting the lead driver so wang throws big angle and chris stands on the throttle lunges forward and makes contact thats a easy fucking call.u know ryan was the only judge who i felt knew what he was doing buuut i think some of andy and Brian’s fuckery is rubbing of on him
The policy is there but when the lead car pulls almost 90 into a corner that the judges have tolled every FD driver in the drivers meeting that they wanted to see solid angle in the corner with consistent speed. Because Mad Mike was asking about it in the drivers meeting and this is what they told him...(no, we want to see a nice balance of angle and speed, while being on throttle, to set up a re-initiation for outer zone two). Forrest did have angle but so much that he lost so much speed. Plus he wasn't even on throttle in a section where the judges want you to be on throttle. The judges made the right call. Now don't get me wrong, Forrest is cool but the fact that he uses dirty tactics like pulling big angle to mess up the follow car is stupid. Now whatever happened to the policy of a clean battle were nobody pulls any BS in there run???????
+TheRealBigpete I totally get what you're saying but the big issue is that none of us know because none of us are in the driver's meeting I've been and it's always me before so I don't know it goes on but see this is the problem of communication nobody really says anything only people that know are the drivers and the judges that's it I mean injera Jazz bars on about whatever I mean nobody really knows what goes on now I could definitely see where you're coming from with that
I wish forest would come back to fd in 2018 but it seemed the judges always hated on him. every time he's thrown big angle and caused the chase driver to choke, they blamed in on him.
Should have included RYan Montain explaining to Jarod what they told the drivers in the drivers meeting how they want them to run the course. Not favoring sides. Just asking to keep all the info that was made available for a fair interpretation of what and why this happened.
It still made no sense. Even if these so called power on zones existed, speed isn't apart of the judging criteria anymore. Wang didn't abruptly slow down, he's being flicking it hard through there since practice. It would of been one thing if that was his first time throwing it in like that. Heck, one of the reasons he won against Tyler was because of his angle through there and keeping the momentum going pretty well. Forsberg was lacking quite a bit angle on contact cause he wasn't happy with the lack of proximity on the bank. Like he didn't know Forrest was going to slow down from angling out through there, especially after all the omts. Forsberg's spotter of course didn't say anything. They are just blatantly making shit up as they go. Tyler Mcquarrie should of won if that whole (on power zone) was really the case. There has been battles like in Orlando where Aasbo and Vaughn should have lost in their first runs in the top 32, atleast in my opinion. But y'know favoritism.
i agree the judges are the issue. they say one thing, they do another. they let certain drivers get away with stuff they don't let other drivers do. i think it was a bad mismatch of styles also. forrest has a slow sort of dreamy flowing style and forsberg is "the force" coming in hot and not always looking like an artist, but more like a nascar driver with beer sponsors on the car. TMQ figured out right off forrest was slow through there. i just wish forsberg would have matched wang's run so we could have an outcome not hinging on the collision that was pretty clearly both driver's faults, but mainly the chase driver because it is written that he is supposed to mirror the lead driver.
The reason why wang got so much angle was because he broke a rear control arm coming off the bank. On amdrift instagram page you can clearly see it. It wasn't his desired angle but it was also out of is control. Foresberg was to close to be able to slow his car down in time. Causing them to put the fault on lead and win to Foresberg.
Forrest was way to sideways after the inner clip he should have been transferred back the other direction right after the clip like forsberg. Besides judges want to see speed at that clip not full lock. if you can't do what the judges ask in the driver's meeting it doesn't matter how much angle you get period!
Yea, but Forrest Wang had been doing that same thing all session. Not only that but Chris Forsberg should not have just gassed it in to Wangs door to keep up. Doesn't matter if the judges were looking for speed, it was a collision caused by unawareness to the other driver. Chris Forsberg is definitely not a bad driver, but drivers make mistakes. That was a mistake from Chris, but somehow the judges ruled it his favor.
Sosuke Wow.. So straight to insulting me for stating my opinion. Real mature. For your information I like Wang and his driving. Anyway if you were to pay attention and not try to be a smartass it was a proper call. Forrest has been pulling crap like that for the longest time. He slows unnecessarily in places people and other should be on throttle. And other drivers on the grid get just as much angle while carrying far more speed. Forrest can be fast. He's fast enough to keep up and stay on the door in the chase but drops 10 or 15mph in the lead and tries to choke the follow car off. And he's been called on it multiple times by judges and multiple drivers. He was clearly off throttle and lost way to much speed for the section. If you look at any other driver through that section They were full throttle on their leads through their with angle. Stop being a fanboy and actually pay attention for once.
+Vert344 forsberg gassed it and slammed into him on purpose dumb ass. He probably wasn't thinking he would damage his car that bad but he got frustrated cause he couldn't keep up on the banking. You could clearly see his car increase speed while forest was sideways in front of him. You are suppose to mirror your opponent in drifting when you're the follow car
***** Everyone was throttling there is exactly my point. NOT just Forsberg. Mirror yes if its a followable lead. Forrest is shedding tons of speed in area's he SHOULDN'T. If you and everyone is expecting your opponent to be on throttle some place they obviously should be and you cut through the smoke and there is a car parked there obviously your not going to be expecting it. And Forsberg didn't even lose him on the banking. He was a bit lower yes but its not like Wang Gapped him by any major amount. And if you listened he was actually off throttle behind him and burped the throttle expecting Wang to be accelerating in which Wang wasn't. His car never increased speed. His car carried and maintained his speed. That just show's how much speed Wang actually shed in comparison to Forsberg. And instead of calling me a dumbass, Mr. Wiseass why would he INTENTIONALLY slam into his car on purpose??? Do you even know how stupid that sounds?? There would be absolutely NO reason or reward for him doing so. And you can't give the excuse "He knew the judges would vote for him" Because thats complete bullshit. The judging in FD has been shit and inconsistent as fuck. So slamming into him would not only damage Forrest car, but HIS car and risk ruining his car for the event. And STILL might not have gotten the win if he was deemed at fault. There for there is absolutely ZERO reason for him to intentionally "Hit him". It would have been a potential Zero reward situation. You can see Wang pulled the same thing with Mquarrie on his first run and Mquarrie nearly did the same thing Forsberg did the first run. Only narrowly escaping collision. The judges had said they had been marking him and others hard for not being on throttle through there. Yet Forrest kept doing it. As I said. I like Wang.. and I like his style. But I swear you people act like he can't do any wrong. Jesus... there's a difference between being a fan and a Fanboy. As for me... Most of my favorite drivers were knocked out early. All mostly due to their own mistakes. Wang Made a Mistake in the lead and it caused the follow car to collide. Its as simple as that!! I don't know why people can't just accept their drivers just like anyone else can fuck up. I stated my opinion on the matter and what I've seen over the years and from this particular incident. And I get called a dumbass and insulted for my opinion. I swear people on the internet now days are just assholes who feel if you don't agree with them it gives them the right to be keyboard warriors and talk shit. Fuck.... God...He fucked up...... intentional or not.. he fucked up.. an accident happened. He lost. Shit happens. Get the hell over it. In other news... Faruk somehow manages to spin on a Bye run??
***** Oh... So now your essentially calling me retarded?? Okay... whatever floats your boat. I'm a normal human being... I have issues.. everyone has issues. No one's life is perfect.
Im bias towards Forsberg, but nonetheless - drifting is a spectator sport, forrest gets marks for getting the crowd up. Forsberg lost sight of Forrest in the smoke, and went hard into it anyway. Such is the way of the sport now that its all high @WHP.
+Jeff Sanders (4DSCdude) oh that makes sense. The live video feed was shitty on a few of my devices, ended up streaming it on my ps4 to get better quality.
+Jeff Sanders (4DSCdude) probably an issue with the stream hosts network connection. Im glad you put this video together though, I havent seen a highlight if this anywhere else.
Straight monster trucked Forrest Wang.. sounds like Forsberg got some cash from other drivers to take out Forrest Wang.. i wish someone would do that to Forsberg one day.
I'm torn on this one since I love Forrest but it looks several times like he fucked up and also looks like he was giving more angle---should have at least been worthy of a OMT at least
Trans Braking at its finest.. dip the clutch pitch the car and it slows without brake lights coming on. Lots of ways to brake without using brakes in drift infront
you can clearly see wang nearly spin, and lift off the gas rapidly scrubbing speed to try to save it just before forsberg hit him. The judges dont want dirty tricks to upset the following car, since it would turn formula D into formula dd (demolition derby). if you watch his runs against McQuirrie, he doesn't hit nearly as much angle on that transition, doesn't scrub nearly as much speed, and the smoke cloud doesnt suddenly fade to near zero. he made an error. Personally I'm not a big fan of Forsberg and much prefer watching Wang drift, but he did screw up, and now he's being a cry baby about it.
The only person I lost respect for is Tyler mcquarry....I hate hot headed idiots like that..he almost wrecked wang after his worthless run on the bank..for no reason other than he was mad. Stupid. But back to the subject...forsberg hit was unavoidable due to wang's suspension breaking while he came off the wall..which sent him into super angle. But since forsberg made the contact, he should of lost.
