Forza destroyed another V12: Forza Motorsport 2023 is NOT built from the ground up. 

I watched that so I already knew FM is def built from the air down. Get it? Bc it's the opposite of built from the ground up

@@kiagon5606 It's bad when you have to explain it haha

@@WhiteCranK Yeah XD

@@WhiteCranKit‘s decent 😂

@@kiagon5606don’t worry it’s decent 😂🎉

It's Undisputed.

I remember when they updated the engine sound of the cinque in hot pursuit. Thought I was going crazy.

Tbh, Project Cars 1 did it cleaner and in higher quality, ngl

Try the test drive unlimited 2 pagani sound or the Need for speed shift 2 pagani, still has more character then the Forza motorsport one

Project cars 2015 shits all over it.

Even went below ground and straight to the depths of hell

"Started from the ground up" yea they just probably copy and pasted the same code just to call it that way

I can’t wait for forza motorsport : flight edition. It starts on the ground.. and 2 years later they add the sky

Obviously not the genius chinese/jap/american team i saw in a fm4 vid back in the day. Just another generic npc team that wanted money. I hope everybody refunded it and waits for it to be £2.99 they can have my money from the ground up

Brought to the ground down

Concordo com você plenamente e o skirline gt-r 34 também foi uma tremenda dessepição pra min!

@@playracegames13 all new car games are shit, not just r34 or pagani, they don't make realistic car sounds purposefully. Even 10-15 old games have better sounds.

@@MehmetunalAtilait mostly only forza motorsport, thats really bad

@@MehmetunalAtila hey give some love to The Crew Motorfest and Gran Turismo 7 😭

​@@bottomtext593For real. I bought a PS5 to switch from FM to GT7, and damn it sounds amazing, especially in cockpit view.

@richarddiditall he said "like", not necessarily identical TT he has a point though

More like a V6

​@richarddiditall5.0 mustang

​@@zn1th_i was upset while making this comment

@richarddiditall sounds kinda like an alfa 8c

The contempt it shows for car enthusiasts... It's like they think people won't notice.

i bet they doing it on purpose. After 5-6 years later, same car racing studios will make ''big progress'' and sell ''better car sounded games'' as a revolution. They could do better in nfsu2 etc which made in 1997. After almost 14 years car sounds down bad every year.

Is just sad how Forza Motorsport had all the hype with the Teaser back in 2021 or 2022, then it’s all but a pleasant surprise… And worst part?, FM7 isn’t available for most anymore…

​@@JPSquare272Jaguar XJR-15 in Gran Turismo 2 and XJR-5 in FM7 sounded way better than FM2023. FM2023 is the worst along with LoveLive SIF2 MIRACLE LIVE!

​@@MehmetunalAtilaMercedes W154 in FM2023 sounds like a car from Ridge Racer 1 as well.

Shift 2 and MW2012>>> granted it’s still great

@@GoatedAtNFS both of those were awesome too

@@AB-fr2ei By far MW2012, Shift 2 and NFSHP were the best NFS games when it came to car engine audio, no game surpasses them or even comes close to their sound quality and authenticity. It's unmatched and I will die on that hill no matter how many people disagree.

From payback onwards, car sounds in NFS have gone downhill.. Heat and Unbound are identically bad

​@@heybos4640 Heat is still as good as we know tbh Unbound is the real downgrade well it's not nece bad but I think it lacks the roaring power of the engine sounds, most of them were bottlenecked by other sounds effect (in Unbound)

I honestly just think they're all sick of their jobs 😅

%100 agreeing with you and probably we are right. Even 2000-2010 games with that technology has better car sounds. Fuck these games i will never play because of this.

​@@tylerthere5832its been the same case to Ubisoft ever since 2013.

@@tylerthere5832me too, those 18 months contracts are bs

@@purwantiallan5089and still, ubisoft or who ever convinced them, made the decision that car sounds are the heart of a game

Even smaller studios can make better sounds, i'm %100 sure they do it purposefully making shit car sounds. After 4-5 year later, they will make money about ''realistic car sounds'' games. They always making step back about what we care about most. Personally i don't care graphics too much because in racing, pyhsics and sounds impact most. Which car racing studios doesn't care about these.

Honestly, that game has some of the best sounds in a racing game ever.

Almost every car in the original project cars sounds nice to me. I especially liked the BMW 1 series M.

​@@guestc142also, all Group C and LMP1 cars in PROJECT CARS 2 including TS030 and TS040 sounds incredible.

@@guestc142i might have to record some more cars in PC 🗣️

It's obviously revenge for all the games which put a Zonda sound on a Huayra

​@@hexagonalcarbonNFS did that mistake at one point then later fixed it

​@@hexagonalcarbondid the 2009 Zonda R in Gran Turismo 5 had the same sound like the Huayra?

​@@civicrider5556which of them?

@@mayteexxis NFS shift 2 unleashed, pagani huayra had the same V12 sound as Zonda which was wrong and strange too because shift 2 was the game where huayra made its debut *Sorry for the late reply*

Which makes piracy not stealing.

You're still a supporter and deserve to be respected, not disrespected by them making trash like that

playstation moment

​@@carterpoopiefart110That's Ubisoft

@@KikuraKun and playstation...

I haven’t really done research, but all I’ve heard was that Forza been using cheap bought models from third parties.

Different Developers! FH5 is Playground Games in the UK (where the 18/6 Contract is *illegal* so they have to have more Permanent contracts meaning they can get some actual Professionals...) Motorsport is Turn 10 in the US.

lol they use models from fm1

Bruh i remember when everyone was hyped for the release of FH5 Even before it's release i had this feeling of engine sounds being worse even in FH5

@@rpmdriver6176 Horizon 5 has nut sounds so your fear was unwarranted (fortunately)

They basically never doing anything over those six years and only focused on the trailer and their slogan of "BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP".

They copied and pasted what made forza motorsport 7 great and just slacked off with the rest of the game 😂😂

@@kylebeach2316not even that some features got WORSE it’s awful

@@wyatthouck1005 It's so confusing now too. Just the basics of like...why turn up and play it as a live service? In Horizon 5 you know exactly what's going on that week, which cars are exclusives, how long they're available for, how much you need to do to get them. In FM8 it's just a shambles: you only know there are new cars added to the game(apart from the Car Pass I mean) by going through a bbunch of menus and looking at the very end of a row of boring menus, and then it says 'reward: Sesto Elemento' or something. But even then you don't know if it's new to Forza, and most of the time the added weekly cars have been returning cars! This is such a crucial time in the game's lifespand, yet the cars they're using to 'lure players in' are some shitty copypaste Zonda C, with a sound file from satan. It's just inexplicably terrible, like they just let AI assemble it all.

The most fun you can have playing Forza Motorsport is thinking about how much better gaming would be with a PS5 and GT7. Just made the switch myself. You won't regret it whatsoever

A rumor said that GT7 is coming to Pc this year

​@@Falt_or perhaps 22nd January 2025 according to PD.

watch roflwaffles gt7 critique series.

​@@v3nnd3ttaa Oh 100% it has issues, but man i miss it after this absolute failure of a forza

"let's put zero effort in this game and then make it for kids with the attention span of a door''. absolutely right. They don't care about their loyal customers and players, they are making shitty car games nowadays. We shouldn't buy any of this kind a games, let's see how long they are stand. After a while, at least one company will produce a game like we want and we will stick to it happily.

Forza Horizon 5 at launch has been a trainwreck like LoveLive SIF2 Miracle Live, EVEN WITH ALL THE BUG FIXES!

Microsoft has mandated a PEGI 3 for all Future Forza Games as of 2019 under Corporate Policy... basically because as they found with FH2, a 3 Rating tends to sell 100 Times more Copies than a 12 Rating when it comes to Racing Games, as then you get the Parents who Forbid 12, but allow 3, Buying and that really does up the Sales Numbers, it is Greed yes, but it is what it is and there is nothing we can do about it, so either we get used to it, or we just crack out the old Hardware or install an Emulator and go back to the Past! Also, upping the Age Rating to a 12 again would fix Nothing! in fact it would make the Game Worse, as it would still be teeth gnashingly Garish, and still Constantly super friendly and super happy, just with added Blasphemy and Profanity, which just makes the Game Repugnant, see Motorfest for Proof of that.. they need to stop getting the Developers, or worse... SBI.... to Write the Screenplays and get some actual Professionals in to write them! It is Incompetent Writing, not the Age Rating (did being a 3 Stop F1 2021/2023 and Grid Legends having some Properly Nasty (Nathan McKane being Davros level Insane and so downright Evil as to make Darius Flynt look like Robert Glenn!) Villains and some Surprisingly good Writing that included a lot of Extremely Negative Elements such as Guilt, Depression, Wrath, Smugness, Duplicity, Lying, the Mafia, Psychosis, Violence, Attempted Murder, Cheating, etc? No. Did being Rated 3 stop FH2 from making Ben Green an absolute Twerp who you just loved to hate? No! ) that is the issue with Games now, and Incompetent Writing can Strike at any age Rating , even 18.. "My Face is Tired" anyone? Also, the Zero Effort, No Attention Span in FH4/5 was because of Mike Brown who focused only on the Eliminator/Battle Royale and aimed purely at Children because they are more into Battle Royale than older Gamers like us are, they have Torben "Hitman Trilogy" Ellert in charge now however, who seems to be a lot more towards "You have to make an Effort" as some of the Cars in Rally Adventure were a little challenging to unlock at times! , and the Developers also seem a lot more Passionate in the Live Streams lately, they are nowhere Near as Burned out and Demoralized as they clearly were back when Brown was in Charge. So Hopefully 6, although it is going to be Rated 3, Like it or not, is going to be an Improvement as it is in Much better hands than 5 was!

The fact that age ratings affect game quality and passion is just baffling at best

EA seemingly happy when Turn 10 destroyed all the iconic sounds in FM8.

@@purwantiallan5089😂

​@@purwantiallan5089yeah another good example would be the GT40's, like my god the bloody good replicas that dont have the "cross-over/bundle of snakes" exhaust still sound more accurate than the shit forza got.

It's especially sad because Playground Games already has better sounds because unlike Turn 10 they actually got most of the cars they have in game recorded and synthesized sounds for them in game. Forza Horizon simply has a better synthesizer. Not sure how Turn 10 screwed it up so badly.

​@@wruenvadameven car sounds on PS1 TEST DRIVE LEMANS also sounded far better than FM2023 despite TDLM PS1 only had 1 engine sound sample.

@@purwantiallan5089😂😂

Well I thought the Tractor Viper sounds in FH4 is already bad enough it turns out there's even worse lol

They aren't trolling, i'm sure they doin it on purpose. You can't made these kind a mess when you have these kind a budgets. Even 2000-2010 games have better sounds with that technology and budgets, they just focus about graphics and money making stuff.

Ivory tower actually did quite a good job with car sounds in tcm

Pagani be hitting that freedom WTF IS A KILOMETERRRRRR playlist

​@@hongthainguyen5334Zonda in Gran Turismo 3 sounded like real zonda. The same true also in Midnight Club 3.

Horizon 2 and 3 Zonda still sounded nice tho.

Even nfs u2 (older than mw2012) have better sounds than this forza shit, im sure they doin it purpose. You said ''how the car sounds by it's exhaust etc, but it's not how majority of us hear them'' is totally wrong, i bet they don't even trying to record these sounds. With ai, microphone improvements and all the technology they have, they produce this :D

Nah but ain’t no way mw2012 didn’t have any samples tho, where did you get that from? The LFA was the king for a whole ass decade, nothing could come close to that game.

And also the same in NFS II in 1997.

@@hongthainguyen5334 maybe they had, but i think they simply made them out of some yt videos or something. Or simply recorded from the outside, like when car does a fly by

@@sirocc4933 if thats the case they put a decent amount of effort then to wait for a car, a specific car at that to do a flyby, and record the sound and emphasize it in the game

Forza Motorsport 2023 also as overrated as FH5.

Absolutely 💯

Kasumi Nakasu when listening the Zonda Cinque in FM2023: I AM SO MAD!

@@purwantiallan5089REALLLYYY MAAAAD 😂

Even the crew motorfest while different to this has better sounds. 6 years for a v8 sounding pagani. Horatio would be disappointed

It's an OK sound, but I would lose my virginity to the real cars sound.

You’re in for the Huayra then, literally that with an imo more beautiful form.

The v12 sounds like an American v8 💀

because it is lol

In terms of performance, It's hard to argue. But in terms of sound either in game or in reality, absolutely not

@@WarthiriumI think the exact opposite. I reckon the E46 M3 GTR is faster but the Zonda sounds better! And I’m a zonda fan boy

@@Davids_cars There is nothing wrong with that. Pagani Zonda is a beautiful car, either the Cinque R or even the best iteration Zonda R then its successor The Huyra. I could go on and on how Pagani is superior to almost any other super/hypercar company out there. Buddy I'm not disputing anything you have to say about the Zonda, But my guy the M3 E46 GTR sound is a timeless one from the in game TVR Cabera to the P60 4.4L with Seq 6 Spd.

@@WarthiriumMy take: M3 GTR with the gear from carbon lol, that thing screams oh lord. Also if you’re ever free check out some vids on the rFactor VLN 2005 M3 GTR, I guarantee you nothing else will beat it. Ever.

Yesss 😮‍💨

They probably took recordings from the cockpit and ofc the roadster will have more exhaust sound that way. Then they just lazily mixed it and forgot that in external cam they should sound the same 💀

Yep. Project CARS 2 also.

@@purwantiallan5089decent 🎉

Hold on, on what game??

@@fastlanegaming hot pursuit, and was found in a sound dump

It's the game with the best sounds in my opinion. I don't care if other games have slightly more realistic sounds, project cars 1 sounds great

fm5, fm6 and fh3 sounded good.

@@robben896 Exactly

@@robben896yes they did

​@@robben896 at 30 fps, no thanks. Would gladly buy and play those, but can't understand why they didn't receive FPS boost

Symphony 🎉

Yup 😂

We have to punish them with this kind a shits and don't buy these kind a games. Probably HPR pyhics are better than this shit.

Hot Pursuit Remastered still great four years after release.

@@purwantiallan5089 Try 14 years, they are the same sound files, unaltered, as the 2010 Original, they are just *that* good!

@@purwantiallan5089still fun to play

Been playing it daily for a while in my Series X

Even a lambo V12 sound would have been a better choice, 0:06 is real

Sometimes i think the devs do this to send us a message to not support the franchise anymore, as they’re only getting 18 months contracts 😂

Para que veas como es forza. Las personas solo reciben un contracto de 18 meses y mira lo que pasa…creo que las personas lo hacen para dañar a forza

@@fastlanegaming no sabía que hablabas español😁

Yeah sorry for that typo, it’s obviously FH5 look how empty the map is, traffic doesn’t even load for me anymore 😂💀

They %100 doin it on purpose. After next 5-6 years, they will make new game and they will sell as ''most realistic car sounds'' and still won't be good as modders car sounds.

built from the ground up

@@MehmetunalAtilaMore like doing this to hurt the franchise as they’re only getting 18 month contracts

@@CertifiedWTRPerson this phrase will hunt them forever 😂

Maybe they should add a hearse to the game, so we can drive the Forza franchise to its grave in a proper fashion…

💯

Tables turned

❤

Yeah yeah 0:06 😂

Cease & desist should also exist for the game sounds, imagine how fast forza would update them 😂