Forza Motorsport is NOT Racing Game of the Year | Racclog 

REMYRACCOON UPLOAD WE ARE FINALLY FED

The car EXP grind sounds a lot like weapon EXP grinding in certain JRPGs, but then you got to to keep the status+ or skill. Going from car to car just reminds me of games where you have to level up characters individually and I greatly dislike those systems when combined with turn based, grid style combat.

Aw man I thoroughly enjoy your videos, even when they're about a game I'll never play. It's fascinating to hear your thoughts on a series you're clearly passionate about.

It's so disappointing that they spent so long going back to the drawing board on this one after the response to FM7, and it seems like they have just fallen in to the exact same pitfalls all over again. I never heard about the career mode lacking events for certain types of cars before though. That's insane. I can see the argument for having some limited time events, but to cut out entire categories of cars from the career completely without that? Beyond dumb. I'm not that surprised this game won Racing Game of the Year at TGAs though. Every single year a Forza game has released it has won that category. It's basically an award just for Forza, despite sports games being inappropriately lumped in with it. But that says more about the dire state of the genre in general really. That and the poor critical standards that exist for the genre, which is just part of the same issue anyway.

If FM was game of the year, a bribe must have taken place

Every game that launches on game pass is a shell of a normal game! You get what you pay for there is no deal

Great video, having finished the game a few weeks ago, I agree with most of this myself. One weird thing is I was able to choose my cars from past events in the open series, so maybe you ran into a bug? They were hidden off to the left in the car selection screen, but they were there.

I think the biggest issue here is that devs somehow thought they would get away with all that by simply calling it a 'platform' upon which they would further 'improve' and 'build up' on top of, towards the brightest future of the franchise. New events, new features, yada-yada. They thought this "early access in disguise' would be a perfect way to burp out a game in such a poor state. A game in a franchise of extreme importance & legacy. Or it might be just Xbox higher-ups just covering devs in every way, bribing the hell outta GOTY award to keep the public vision of a successful game, and now devs are drip feeding updates (which should've been in the game on day one) like they're the most caring devs ever who are supporting the game with such a deep love & passion. All I can say about FM23 is that it's a disgusting piece of software, and an ugly case of corporate crap that becomes prevalent in AAA releases these days. Ideally, I wish it would sink so hard the studio would get closed, because modern T10 is a shadow of its former self anyway. So the whole thing would become a lesson for everyone, but we all know this would never happen because Microsoft / Xbox rule the party, and things just wouldn't get better period. We still might get small increments of improvements, but the case really stinks, and I'm afraid this is just the beginning.

Performance on PC is complete crap. DLSS just either doesn't work or makes the game run worse. I'm running at 1440p on a RTX 3060 Ti, Ryzen 7 5700X and it struggles to maintain 60 FPS.

I see parallels to Hitman 3/World of Assassination where the game itself is really good but the supporting systems are flawed and kneecapped by live service FOMO BS. I really miss the days when seasonal content was purely additive to the amount of content and limited time stuff was restricted to Xmas/Halloween stuff you'd be bored of after week anyway.

All the developers with a passion for cars left the building. Turn 10 is now a diversity and inclusion weekend team bonding experience. Forza has been my go-to racer when I don't feel like sweaty-mode simming ... since 2005. I'm with you. Career mode in FM2023 is the arcade mode from the first gen game. I expected a calendar, and starting with rust buckets on a dirt oval, or go-karts. Leading to seasonal team drives in saloon cars or open wheels. With a penultimate LMP1 or GT3 factory season. What Turn 10 promised, and what we got, is like Tinder catfishing.

Actually, I would prefer GT7's campaign over FH 2023. At least the former lets you roleplay with virtual characters and actual GT pro players. This insult to the series has no soul. Just a generic team member. I miss FH3' and 4's butler.

Forza's been in the gutter since Motorsport 7.

First before I say anything, always happy to see you giving us some new content but I got something to say too So look, I’m the kind of lass who jumps in on a racing game as often as we Australians can hold onto a prime minister for more than a year and even then I only really play Need for Speed games, occasionally dipping my toe in another franchise like Wreckfest (surprisingly satisfying btw as someone not hugely into racing games so I’d recommend if you haven’t tried it yet) But even I can see that holy crap this game is a dumpster fire, that many crashes in that little an amount of time and having so much content that will eventually be lost? It’s for reasons like that why now I unfortunately feel like I just have to inspect a game that I’m unfamiliar with if I wanna try it, because stuff like this happens and it’s completely unacceptable TL;DR, good to see you again, Australians can’t keep prime ministers, would recommend Wreckfest if you haven’t tried it (can’t remember if you have currently and it’s 3AM as I’m writing this) and this game seems like a bit of a polished turd…see ya next upload hun

The racc is back

The entire Forza part upgrade system could be fixed (or at least improved) with 2 changes 1st - put all parts in the tiers they ALREADY HAVE, street, sport, racing and make the levels unlock everything on that tier, example, level 5 unlocks everything for street parts, 10 unlocks sports, 15 all race parts and 20 the engine and drivetrain swaps, or just put it 4 levels and each level requires the same xp of 5 traditional levels and call it a day, no need for more than that 2nd - the upgrade system being expanded for car classes not the individual car, so every part unlocked does not only count for that car, but that sub-class of car, like sport cars, supercars, gt class and so on, this way it would make you not only have a bond with a car only, but that car class, so when you get tired of driving supercars and everything is maxed out, you would jump on gt3 cars, where in theory you know nothing on how they behave and drive and start unlocking the stuff again, so at the point everything is unlocked for gt3 you already know how the cars in the class behave and drive in general.

Bro the game awards is a fucking joke and I'm sick how people treat any of it seriously. Like they take value on ads over actual game categories and the way they disrespect racing games as a genre just pisses me off to no end.

By the time you've leveled up your car to a decent level, you've finished with it.. . After finishing the career theres nothing left to do really.. And as you say no actual motorsport events . . .

I'm a Playstation guy so I can't speak from experience, but I think it's an absolute travesty that Forza won that award. For a game being so hard pushed as being "built from the ground up," it sure does look awfully similar to 7 in more ways than one. Turn 10 really dropped the ball with this one, but then again Polyphony kinda did too, so, in all fairness, Remy, I feel your pain when it comes to disappointing racing games. Anyways, glad you're back and hope to see you again soon! (:

It's a fucking scam, you pay 70$ for a (not even) pre-alpha. Motorfest is a way better investment

The controller handling on the new Motorsport is the best it’s ever been and multiplayer has its moments where the racing is also incredibly fun but holy shmoly the interface and single player is awful. If forza didn’t have its yearly glitch where I can get way too many credits right at the start of the game I would absolutely hate the progression and low earnings

Even though only racing games i enjoy are need for speed most wanted ps2 and jak x, i still love your videos and hearing you talk about games i will never play. Keep up the good work :3

Next year FM will be what it should have been in the beginning 😮

Im more of a PlayStation addict, but i do have to admit, that the Forza franchise does have very good installments, it's like need for speed, but it's different from NFS.

This is one of the main reasons why I prefer Horizon

sadly, I actually think in some ways my games "SURG One Track" and "SUN DRG" might be better in some ways than the current forza motorsport, and I made those for a 10 year old system in a month (each) for a game jam.

The online Free Play doesn't force you to use a new car. The UI sucks at displaying this, but if you prep a car in the class, the left most option is "My Cars" and all your setup cars are buried in there

damn, even tho I never had interest in racing games, I'm actually enjoying listening to you talk about it, even if I know nothing about what you're talking lmao

Have you given GT7 a try lately? They have added so much content since your last review of it.

Babe wake up, New Remy video

The Raccoon back!

The game is tempting but like you said, there are some problems. I dont mind the grind, i don t mind the regular cars throughout career, but the current state of the game and the fact that it will have the same problem as GT sport.... how long do Forza servers run usually? If i want to buy the game next year, wait for fixes and maybe a deal, how many years can i play? Again, it s tempting, but GT4 might hit all the good spots for me and continue to be my evergreen choice.

Another problem with the game is the lack race Tracks and old race cars. A lot of iconic race cars arent in the redboot like the mclearen le mans cars, Mercedes clk gtr race spec, Porsche 935, Porsche gt1 and many more.

Forza Motorsport’s ai “at least to me” is a mix of forza 6’s first turn mayhem and forza 7’s lack of awareness to an extent. I also think that they knew the game wasn’t finished so that’s why they are doing monthly fixes.

A new Remy video in 2023?? :O

In this kind of game it's not place for street cars. This is not NFS, horizons, crew, this game is a semi simulator game , we wont racing cars at max level with reality performance and handling and a extra good online multiplayer series because we wont to fight with best of the best players

You got that right. FM2k23 is a "meh" game at best. I only play it for the Free Play mode.

I always hear people say that Forza didn't deserve to win racing game of the year, but I never hear anyone give any alternatives. Which racing game should've won instead? The Crew Motorfest was the only other option, and it isnt better imo.

I’m 29 and I don’t understand the CP joke I keep hearing.

You know its questionable when a game that is still not polished to this day wins,one has to wonder,what happened behind closed doors!!!

I had to throw you a subscribe. finally, an honest opinion about this game. While it deserves to be slammed for the bare bones, single player mode, they had the nerve to even throw at us, the driving feels amazing. It just does and I’m comparing that to GT seven.

YES I'VE BEEN SAYING THE SAME THING ABOUT 7 THANK YOU Admittedly the dlc kinda ruins the car collection aspect of it but otherwise it was actually really good!!! Especially compared to this blegh

So what better racing game was released this year?

They implemented multi class races in the game, but they haven't even programmed the AI so all you get is slower class cars racing you and blocking you, faster classes can't overtake, just sit behind someone for most the race. It's an embarrassment

Not to mention the track literally disappearing if you have the game on anything but an SSD

The major error is consider TGA as relevant award, I enjoyed FM8 but the game have a ton of issues and flaws. Or the gamers devaluate the whole TGA or their arguments are pointless.

Bought FM as a fix to my Gran Turismo craving but was sorely disappointed on almost every respect. Blegh

REMY NEVER FAILS TO GIVE ME A BRAIN TUMOR!!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥

Now I see why I'm not going to get this so-called game of the year. And I don't care about the game awards.

I disagree with your praise about the handling for 2 reasons. One: The good handling model is offset by the bonkers default tunes. Wonky tires pressures and other odd settings. One of the M3s has a heavy rear brake bias so your rear end is always wanting to step out. Only fix is to go through about 3 races (maybe less now that the levels were reduced, I don't recall if this was pre or post update) to buy the parts I didn't even want to get, just to fix the dumb brake bias. I could go on about how dumb it is to need an upgraded suspension in order to do basic car maintenance things like adjust the alignment, but I'll stop here on this. Two: I'm guessing since you have pretty limited play time, you didn't get to the timed events where you can drive some of the race cars. There was a big problem with aero wash which has supposedly been fixed. The problem I had when I was driving one of the LMP cars was that touching the inside kurb on a corner drastically upset everything and would trigger a spin. I watch WEC and IMSA from time to time. These cars run over them all the time. Why in this game am I getting kicked out to a spin instantly from the inside tires touching them? Most of the weight (and thus grip) is on the outside tires, that are still on the normal road surface.

Pretty much every single time I see a video of FM8, I become more glad that I never bought it. I pretty much vowed for FH5 to be my last Forza, and even that's almost certainly getting ditched when Solar Crown gets released (I desperately hope they gave that game the time it needs)

Just let us create our own championships with improved ai and editable point systems AND get rid of those stupid drivatars. How hard is that?

Pretty much summed up my experience with the game...

This game is So many AI's so freaking frustrating i use 25 degrees cockpit FOV 65 cockpit is a freaking Nightmare 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😅😅😅😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

if u level one car and buy the same one it should be at same level as the one u own. it's a bug that it's not they are supposed to fix that

This is the first time I agreed with a furry, incredible

I’ll be honest, I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about a joking way of saying I don’t like the opinion of someone’s critique of a racing game, even though they play a lot of racing games, and I just couldn’t come up with the joke. I will say that it absolutely sucks that the game you were looking forward to (even though people were focused on so many other games) came out disappointing. I do want to ask if you had any plans of trying the Fortnite racing mode they just made. I’m not a big racing guy myself (burnout 3 and wreckfest are the only racing games I have extensive experience with) but I’ve been enjoying it. It feels fast paced, I love he focus on drifting (where other games like Mario kart don’t feel like I need to do much, and I get that Mario kart is a party racing game), I don’t feel like Sisyphus when I make a mistake. Maybe it’s my inexperience with the genre, but I can see it being a big deal overtime (and the fact that Fortnite has a crazy user-made workshop thing means that people can probably make really good tracks. It’s only been out for a few days, I’ve no idea if there are user tracks yet).

good video

What is the deal with "CP"... What does it mean, and why is this an issue? At first I thought it was a non English speaking thing, but now I'm thinking its some sort of meme. So, what is up with it. I genuinely want to know. Also, you can use cars you've previously raced. Select "My Cars" in the select screen.

games ok, have not played in 4 days, loged in in today and all my money is gone, i had about 60000 know only got 3000, not to happy about that

If you're the 6th FM7 apologist, that makes me the 7th😂.

Tracy Grimshaw 💀💀

How mutch did Microsoft pay for this?!?😂

Look. As a complete single player, I thoroughly enjoy a good grind. But this requires that the whole thing leads to a satisfying goal. But FM8 doesn't do that. The individual championships are boring, there are no championships for racing cars and the presentation is the most boring I've seen in any game for years. (Across genres).

Horizon has been carrying the Forza franchise for half a decade.

On S.X it's "crashs motorsport" , or "forza motorsbugs"......online bugs everywere, crash before racing every time, invisible car , smoking car (yeah , like australia in summer). This game is a shame. And it's obvious when you play fm2 or 4 now, or project car 1 and GT7, this FM8 is a shitty mobile game.

“Except WOW it doesn't🙄”

it won it had the highest meta score.. and user score. of all the games in the category 4 updates already released. its a GASS game its not gonna be complete at launch

Maybe I didn't fully get it, I was kinda sleepy while watching this, but the whole grinding sounds like they wanted to make the new Forza a big live service shit-show and gave up halfway.

Yusssss

I agree with the criticisms of this game, but tell me for all of the games that came out this year. What else would you put above Forza? And don’t give me the Forza horizon copycat game, for example.

I don't understand the T10 simps I see on reddit and other youtube videos. It's so clear that we are QA testing this game instead of playing the final release and it has NOT been built from the ground up for 6 years...

I don't get this games. I can barerly tell the diference between any sim and I don't know how can you make sequel eveery two years that add something meaningfull

Gotta disagree about the car level system. I’m the kinda person who likes to drive cars stock before leveling them up, so it works perfectly for me

atleast it doesn't crash within the first 5 to 10 minutes of the game starting up like fh5 does

Forza 7 apologist gang! 0:16

Still struggling to see why this wasn't a cross gen title, Horizon 5 overall had a much better presentation and style than this

People blame the higher ups and execs. I cannot say I agree. Yes, These higher ups do get in the way of actual good game development quite often. But if you go back to the 2000s. They were doing the same back then. Its the devs who have actually changed. The size of these studios are very very clearly bloated beyond being able to maintain a clear design vision. Call it too many cooks, call it too many interns. Whatever. Todds 25 year passion project is nothing more than a passionless cobbling together of 25yo game engine tech with a loose through line. The Motorsport game looking to refocus on their genre has literally NO motorsport racing in its core campaign. Something critical has been lost in why people work on these games. The thing that actually makes good games to begin with.

GamingBolt gave the game a 9 out of 10.

It's not a game , it's a bad joke.

Lol, then which will be the racin game of the year then? Lol

Dont mind me, im just scrolling through the comments to see how many Xbots Forza simps made a fool of themselves in the comments🗿🗿🗿

Comparing this to cyberpunk shows how out of touch you are....

Are you seriously copying skill ups thumbnails? lol, bro, do something true to yourself, not just copying what’s popular.

Average hater

I dont think you played the game at all. You can use all yhr cars in open class. You can reset tuning to zero and tune for the class you want to race. You csn also save your setups and it save parts as well. Youre just full of it. You should either renive or amend your video

Dont know about you bandwagon haters but Im enjoying this gsme