Forza Motorsport vs. Gran Turismo 7 | Graphic & Sound Comparison 

Which ever title you prefer, can we all agree that Suzuka is a beast of a track.

How lucky are we to have 2 kickass console games like this

I just love how both these games look great in there own way GT7 just gets the car detail on point while FM's tracks look amazing

One thing the video mentioned in passing but should've emphasised more was the effect in the handling during wet conditions. Different parts of the tracks have different levels of grip depending on where the water tends to accumulate. Aquaplaning is factored in GT7, whereas in Forza, the entire track has the same level of wetness. The puddles are only meant to showcase the RT in effect, but has no bearing with the physics. Moreover, when the track dries in GT7, the areas where the cars pass through dry up first, and the difference in grip becomes even more pronounced. It makes the timing of switching to slicks even more important.

Uma coisa que vejo pouca gente falar é como o GT envolve a cultura automobilística, tem museu, carros lendários que existem, histórias, é tudo feito com muito amor. One thing I see few people talk about is how GT involves automobile culture, it has a museum, legendary cars that exist, stories, it's all done with a lot of love.

Forza looks great, but GT7 just looks brilliant and have much more to offer.

the light cone is illuminating also more of the environment in GT7 compared to Forzas nightdriving, which reall adds to this endurance race feel. Forzas lightcone semms to shine only on the track surface and even there its quite short.

I have GT7, but Forza sounds are just amazing!!!

I have both, GT7 is better and it's not close.

This Just my own observation. The track details on Forza is impressive,so much is going on, but it looks more Like what you expect in a Video game details. The Track has exaggerated reflection when wet. GT7 has lesser details on track but i can sense a slight element of realism maybe its the lighting.

GT7 is Japanese and FM is American. FM is like “bigger is better”, light and tracks have an amazing quality overall, but when you go to GT7, is all on details. Attention to detail and finesse.

A few details caught my attention in rainy weather conditions. The rain droplets on GT7 seem to behave more realistically by moving upwards due to incoming wind, whereas in FM it seems somewhat static. Also I do like the water vapor trail in GT7 more, in FM it looks like the vapor is coming out of the trunk of the car as well? Sound wise I prefer FM, in GT7 its a bit too muffled imo. FM has better sound details especially the transmission whine. I also love how FM shows each section name underneath, cool detail.

GT7 PSVR2 💟

As a PS player i gotta admit forza in the rain is super impressive

GT looks more realistic, forza looks more vibrant

You get more aggressive and lively sounds in GT7 when upgrading turbo, lag system, silencer and exhaust 💟

I refunded my copy of Forza - it simply is not optimized enough to pay full price for. Stuttering, graphics are terrible, crashes, steering is simply too understeery, etc. If the game would work, I'm sure it would be great, but as it is right now - Forza needs a lot of work.

Forza looks geeat and a lot of content but after playing ACC for a few months Im not really enjoying Forza anymore

Im honest. These stupid flames from every car on Forza are hilarious 😂

IMHO the third person camera angle in GT7 is much better.

I think that the cars look better in gt, but the tracks look far better in forza. Sound in forza as well is better. I’m surprised how some details in gt aren’t as good as forza, like tracks and sound. Considering how long and painstaking they say it is to get everything right. Inside the car I would say mostly gt is more detailed imo. Tbh, both games look great, and it’s just certain things that each other do better than the other. But, Forza are able to put out great driving games, while gt takes an absolute age for their games to be released. I have a ps5, but if I ever got an X, I would def buy Forza. And I might get gt someday.

Both got their pros and cons, I really wish GT7 would be release on PC. The best is to own both.

ALWAYS use "Wobble Cam 2" when driving in cockpit in GT7. Gives neck and physics movement to the drivers head that makes a substantial difference! Both look good, Forza still needs to work on paint though. @7:04 is a good demonstration of how they kind of fumble how light interacts with glossy surfaces at an extreme angle. Overall FM8 is leagues beyond where FM7 was, and I'm excited to see how they tweak it with updates.

my 3080 is something like 5x more powerful than my ps5, but for some reason, gt7 looks and runs far superior. because of course microsoft hasn't bothered with any optimizations whatsoever on the pc side of things. I legit feel like I'm gonna switch over to playing forza on my series S just because it will run a stable 60fps there. fingers crossed that my wheel settings get synced lol

Gran Turismo looked so bad in that rain compared to Forza. Looked almost like a PS3 game. Maybe they focused too much on the cars in GT and didn’t have enough power leftover for the track modeling. Forza got a good mix of the two with way better weather effects.

Both are amazing games. I enjoyed GT7. Loving Forza now and bought a G920 wheel for forza last night. I gotbthe bugnto pock up wheel again, havent had one since the 360. Im hoping that Forza 7 plan to be a live service game makes it the right xhoice for the console I got my wheel on. I also hope we get a 120hz mode.

In my opinion GT7 graphics and game mechanics are better than Forza Motorsport but I believe this is a big win for PC and sim racing community. GT7 is great but its only exclusive to Playstation and currently there are no other good alternative games that have similar gameplay to GT7. Assetto corsa games, iracing, and other sim racing games are too focused on simulation and this leaves out a lot of players that play on keyboards and controller; while other games are too arcady that it leaves out the technicality of the gameplay mechanics. Forza Motorsport is the best GT7 alternative currently available and its a great game that has lots of potential both in graphics and also game mechanics.

Played both to compare for myself yesterday and the winner is easily GT7. The cars are so stunning in GT7! So much detail. Colors are vibrant and the reflections are damn near photo realistic. FM colors are terrible. I know there is currently a bug where colors are washed out and blacks look grey but come on, there have been 8 iterations of Forza Motorsport and 5 iterations of Forza Horizon. There is no excuse for how terrible the colors are and how poor the cars appear in light. There is an obvious bloom in light that kills color and makes the cars look like plastic models. Cars sound great in both games but I give the edge to GT7. The engine sounds are negligible for both games if you play in third person. Where GT7 shines is if you play in first person (cockpit view) the cars sound amazing and what impressed me more was if you drive a mid-engine car and wear headphones, the 3D audio sounds superb! You can hear the engine screaming right behind you as if you were in the car. This level of immersion is missing in Forza and thats a shame. Another thing that I found great was the sound shift when suddenly driving in a tunnel or under a bridge. GT7 just nails it. Customization is negligible also between games but again I give the edge to GT7. Forza has more wheels to choose from but lack in every other category. Again, there have been 8 iterations of Forza Motorsport and 5 iterations of Forza Horizon and nothing has been added recently. You have the same aftermarket options to choose from as you do from Horizon 5. It blows my mind that Turn 10 havent added anything new. Same can be said about GT7 though but where GT7 shines is in the finer details like choosing different wheel sizes, width, and even offset. I dont know if I have to max a cars level in Forza but I do not see a way to choose wheel size. Im stuck with aftermarket wheels and stock wheel sizes. Wtf, happened there?? You could do that in Horizon 5 I think. Dunno why you cant in FM. There are a lo of little things like creating custom liveries for your suit and helmet and buying actual manufacturer paints by paint code in GT7 that take it to the next level. Overall, both games are super fun. Driving mechanics feel great for both even on controller. Its a little easier to manage brakes and throttle control on the PS5 with the adaptive triggers but you can do the same on Xbox with a little bit of practice. Both are great but for me, imo GT7 is much better.

They both have their ups and downs, Forza looks alot better in wet conditions, but GT has better clouds formations, i do agree though, Forza does have some quirky textures going on, but then so does GT, lets not forget, Forzas being out a week, GT's being out over a year, so has had plenty of time to fix things

Both are great but forza is best on pc for graphics and playing with a wheel. No pc option on GT.

Currently, I like the graphics and outside car models of GT7 over FM. It's consistent. Both GT7 and FM get a D on interior graphics and models. I enjoy the sounds of FM better. GT7 has more player control regarding fuel and TCS. But I do enjoy the driving more in FM overall. I have yet to use wet tires in FM because I never lose traction. GT7, rain is over the top at times. Verdict. Both do good and bad things. I hope they both start fixing the negatives very soon, though I think FM will have better luck in this endeavor.

IMO GT7 have more realistic colors and better feel on the track. FM colors look a bit cartoonish. When it comes to lightning, texture, sound, weather effects, tuning, vehicle customization FM have the edge. But there is a lot more for these games than just looks. They are both fantastic, there are things to love and hate from both games. I enjoyed GT 7 for over a year unfortunately GT lack of content have kept the game in a stuck situation, there are no reasons to grind the game. Now, I’m enjoying FM I really love that it gives the player reason to play the game.

Idk how good of a comparison this is since you are comparing the Ultra RT settings on a PC to GT7 on a PS5.

Any one that says Forza looks better got some serious Green tinted glasses on 😂. Gt7 car models are insanely good. Lighting and gloss on the cars looks top notch.

the hood on the viper in Forza is soo low quality, you pointy edges from the low quality model (most likely used from fm4)

Great comparisons! Even though I'm a fan of the new FM, GT clearly looks more realistic in my eyes. More sharp and crisp as well which I prefer over the softer look of Forza. Also Forza is way too dark at night imo. It's not as noticeable in a replay but it is pretty damn dark when actually racing. It's compounded by the windshield reflection and both together is a bit too much.

I don't know if i see the value in forza right now. Sure the car list is bigger but really that's about it. I enjoy the more oversteer friendly physics of Forza occasionally, looks like horizon will have to do the trick till this game gets cheaper.

The more i watch GT7 footage now, the more I cant help but notice that the cars look really weird as they move around the track, they almost seem to slide around corners than drive around them, like the car is on casters, not wheels. There is no doubting that forza has bought its A game this time in regards to graphics, although unfortunately not without some issues, some of them big, like the low poly cars in some cases or the glitchy headlights on the road which is really off putting. biggest issue for me though is the ridiculously low laps required on races in career mode, 3 practice laps is fine by me, i tend to do more to lvl up my car, but then only 6 laps in the race seems daft? why not have an option to do a short medium or long versions of the race.

At 6:20 look at the hood of the Viper on Forza, it's reflecting the tree line. Pretty crazy.

Sadly for froza I've noticed there's a lot of missing textures especially in the AI cars around you in the track some interior looks like they're from the PS3/360 era.

Can you do Forza Motorsport vs Gran Turismo 7 physics next?

i have gt7 and i wish you could fine tune the camera position in both cockpit view and 3rd person. kinda like how it is on the newer f1 games

Both games look fine though I've heard both have problems. I do hope that despite Horizons having its own level of fun and enjoyment we continue to see more regular Forza titles

Please use near chase cam on forza. Dont understand why you use far chasecam for comparison video.

I play both games. Without the gamma bug I prefer the tracks / environment of Forza Motorsport. Also the rain and night races look better in FM. BUT I prefer the looks of the cars in GT7. Something is still off with the reflection / colors in FM. Also the interior looks better in GT7. Then again I prefer the car sounds in FM but some cars sound also wrong in FM. Overall I give the edge to FM. But it is very close. I also had to decrease brightness to a minium on my OLED TV (ingame settings in FM) to look better.

What’s with the drivers fingers on the up shifts on the tributo in cockpit view on GT7 😂

One thing I want to mention is that in GT7 cockpit view during rain it basically sounds like the windows are open and it really kind of gets annoying after a short time. Presumably something you can change in the settings but I’m not sure. And maybe it’s just me

It'll be interesting to see what Digital Foundry say about both games. They both look fantastic in fairness, GT7 is clearly ahead with car models, but track details, lighting look better in Forza. I also love that Forza has a cockpit cam without the wheel as it's more immersive for me on the wheel. I'm still during the honeymoon period with Forza, but I prefer the online set-up in FM over GT7, so I can see the game having more longevity.

As a PC user FM in its current state is not a AAA racing game I would consider buying. It has a lot of bugs missing textures on cars terrible unoptimised performance on PC and inconsistent graphical quality issues. The devs are going to need to get a few patches out for me to even consider paying $69 for an incomplete game but I guess that's the norm now a days sadly...

On my Xbox series x, I can barely hear the engine noise in Forza. I turned up the system sound, and my engine sound is 100%. I turned down everything else, but still it is not as loud as it should be. ACC does it right.

played a bit on PC last night so I can't compare fairly because I'm running a 4090, both games look stellar regardless

That sense of speed in FM is awesome.

I generally find GT 7 has a more subtle level of quality. Bare in mind it's age, it has to run on PS4. This shows how good GT7 actually is.

GT7 has much better and more realistic graphical fidelity. Forza Motorsport looks good but also bad and ugly sometimes. The lighting is so inconsistent and the fog affect is way overdone! I prefer GT7 but I'm stuck with FM.

Holy to think i was going to buy a xbox for this game.

Is it just me or do the GT graphics in the replay segment look like something rendered on a PS2? the lighting or contrast or something is making it look like clay at certain points. the timestamp and pause I first noticed it was 4:22

The recording of the sound. Is it the same product of the sound recording. It could be from different angles recording. They both sound the same from different angles.

Why is gt7 labeled 1440p on ps5? It’s native 4k

GT7 looks and appears to be more realistic from the videos, but I think they have different genres.

I feel like Forza does a good job at the "shiny, whoa" look to a modern racing game...but that side-by-side GT7 ends up feeling like it cares more about each car. Audio-wise, Forza falls way behind IMO. Reverb/echo of my engine often is louder than the engine itself, as are nearby opponents. There is also a distinct lack of curb/kerb audio in Forza, they may as well be smooth. The crash audio though...man...THAT'S the true oversight on Forza. I can't honestly say I remember GT7's crash audio for comparison, but Forza manages to sound so generic, and it's an identical sound for every single impact. I rolled a car last night and ever single time the car touched something it made the identical bonk sound that a minor fender-bender does.

GT7 is also on PS4 and it shows. Compared to Forza it looks like a last gen game.

Im actually suprised that Forza stacks up as well as it does, Im dissapointed with both games tbh, as both of them look flatter in some essence compared to previous titles be it track detail and the feeling of life, forza has decent variance in grass greens with a more varied texture layer, likely a bing maps clone of the actual track detail, and just a good amount of small noticeable detail with the assets and the tracks skybox (for all the LODs around it) looks more populated to give it a more 3d effect, instead of the "popup book" effect GT7 has, GT7s 3d sound is lovely and night effect detail are great, its pretty flat on forza. Overall i think its kinda safe to say GT7 focused more on the car detail where as Forza focused more on track detail, i say this due to the fact forza is using upscaled scanned car models from forza 4 for the most part with the 1 new car render being that 22B IIRC everything else is ported, Its fine if it works but they are looking dated as ever as there are such varying qualities in the close ups and a flat quality on pretty much all the seams, we know since even GT5 that their models are "pieced together" if you ever emulated it (shader compiling the cars) best i can describe it is you want to look at the car and if you touched it your finger will fall into the groves of the car, i rarely see that in any forza game. And the tracks on forza are just look about 25% more finished, they aint perfect, but most of them are kinda lacking in GT7 on the fidelity side, they get the job done and gotta be honest getting into the variance of how the tarmac feels and is portrayed is a different kettlle of fish.

I think we're at the point where forza and gt are on par with eachother visually. Simply because series x and ps5 are nearly equal in power.

I can see so many Fanboys in the comment section 👀👀🤣🤣

I own a Xbox and luckily with Game pass its a free to play title, game was released but needs serious bug fixes and crashes often. Not sure whats happening but I have played all the Forza titles from Forza 2 and stopped playing at 6, the released a seriously incomplete game and I personally will start playing wants bug patches have been done.

When you take a look on new gameplay of WRC???

GT has a more refined look - cleaner and less graphical glitches - and the car models are better. Replays in GT also a highlight. Forza brings nicer looking environments due to the additional decoration around the track etc. I'd also give sound to Forza but the collision effects are very poor.

I have GT7 on the PS5, but what I see here more is that GT7 is more predictable (soundwise and physics) which does not reflect real racing and evidently does not keep you coming back. This part seems to shine in FM.

1:56 The real Laguna Seca didn't have night light so on this point, even Forza have more detail on track, it''s less realist that GT7.

Forza doesnt even turn on your windshield wipers in the rain and the hell is the point of having raindrops all over the chase cam?

Great video Michel & Henry. I always expected Forza to walk all over GT7 in graphics due to being the more recent title.

Pretty sure forza uses fake car sounds. Drove cars in forza that I have in real life and it sounds nothing like the real life version of the cars. Gt7 is more accurate with the sounds

We, as the normal drivers, do we have any choice? No. Well, maybe if you are just in the decision to buy a console and make the racing game a decision point. Anybody else, depending what console you have, there is only one choice. ... Playstation - GT , XBox - FM

I have both games and am a PC gamer. For me, Forza Motorsports 8 is much better than GT7. But the other PC-only sims are better than both. ^^

Personally I think GT7 looks better overall. GT7 has better skyboxes, interiors, car lighting whilst Forza has better track / trackside details.

I haven't bought forza yet I several of the old games I have grand turismo 7 , I the one thing I don't like about all forza games is how the car moves around while you are driving fish tailing often a 4 thousand pounds doesn't move around like that while you are driving, grand turismo the car is stable on the track like real life .

I played forza 7 a couple months ago through the entire career. I think it looks better than gt7 and forza 8 in its overall visuals.

A good comparison would be the two games with the real deal. But I give you spoiler: Forza is more synthetic. But which you prefer, is up to you.

I have to agree. I think GT7 is a bit more consistent than FM8. What I do like about FM8 from a single player point of view are the grid starts. Another good bonus if you're using a Wheel is that each car can have their Steering FFB settings. But both great games in their own right.

came here for the sound comparison. As expected, Forza has the advantage still

FM proper arcade game compared to GT7. More comparable to Need for speed

I kinda wanted Forza to do even better than it did to keep up with a healthy competition. FM doesn't really innovate anything special to the table.

Both programmes are a game! They did it mainly to have fun, nothing else matters! Graphics are good, but the sounds are weird in both games! And some Forza carmodel is outdated, not new or remodelled.

Wish the - break lights - where brighter.

Inless sony release gt on pc i will never look at it. Forza is my chill/not serious race game with the proper race sims when i want to go sweaty try hard. I would very much like gt to drop on pc for me to try (maybe bloodborn while your at it?)

The car on GT feels very stiff and shows too many reflections on the bodywork to the point of dazzling your eyes. GT shows an environment that in my opinion is very static and with few details. I prefer FM for what it offers in this aspect. The asphalt on GT looks like a monochromatic strip with few shadows and reflections, on FM it appears more pleasant to look at, even in case of rain (although it exaggerates with the reflections, but after all it's a video game and that's fine). Then if we were talking about "physics"... FM for consoles remains the game with the most pleasant pad experience (and I could also explain why, but this is not the place).

For me my first impressions of each title were... GT7 - Wow incredible graphics, sounds and handling. Completely blew me away and still does. Lacking in some features and content at launch but got the core aspects right. Forza - Very disappointed. Graphical glitches, low quality car models, terrible performance on PC, excellent sound and fun handling. Just didn't look like the marketing videos.

I do appreciate in certain aspects Forza’s sound is a bit fuller. Imo though is GT7 has far superior car models and looks better in most aspects

One thing about the sound of cars in the 2. Forza sounds better here, but Gt7 the sound of the cars can be changed with different exhausts. Its very noticeable compared to forza which barely changes the sound. And different exhausts look different in gt7. And wet tracks have patches that are wetter than others it's not uniformly spread out like in forza.

Forza has better side track graphics but that's it. Forza has reused too many assets from older games, and graphics are imbearisingly bad in track surface textures, interiors, interior lighting, most car models look like there made of plastic, rims at the store, car livery selection looks the worst like ps3 level. I'm hoping for some patches will be coming latter on to fix these issues as they clearly rush forza out the door.

Car handling physics are numbee one to me over graphics or gimmicks. Gt7 though not hard-core pc sims level, seems to offer a more believable experience.

Yeah. Just love FM with cars in cockpit having no back!!! You think i joking? Check it. The mirror inside. Its always show clear view, even when the back of the car would block a part of it. Aw, and don't forget to look back, you'll see nothing. in GT7? You see partially blocked view in mirrors as it is, and if you look back, you really see the car's back inside. this is just 1 of the hundreds of details and parts is better in GT7, i say this one, because everyone forget to mentions this difference. Honestly, i just want a Forza 3-4 remastered, that would be a big opponent for GT7. But FM? Only good for joking on it. 😢

I never played it but gt7 looks better. I am enjoying forza so far.

Thank you for making this I play mostly with a wheel and a hood view and this clearly showed me that people just want to complain about the chase cam with gt7 Its not like i have to stop playing gt7 and switch to forza due to it being extremely unrealistic

When it comes to the environments/tracks, lighting & reflections, forza did a brilliant job. However not all the cars look as great, some cars do look really good, but some still look very dated.

i'd say need for speed shift 2 still has the best car sounds and the best speed feeling

That's explains why in GT7 it looks like your steering the scenery not the car 😂 FM is not without issues, waiting around for races, random crashes, and I don't mean on the track. Adding a paint job or a tune regularly dashboards me. Fm is better than last year the feeling of control is better you can recover in corners and you feel and hear when your losing grip. Both games engines look good. The penalty system need work. I get a car pushed in front of me sideways I can't stop but get a 5 second penalty that destroys my race.....or an idiot jumps up the inside of a corner over half the car is on the grass and uses you as a break again I get a penalty. 😢

GT 7 seems to run a lot smoother. Less stuttering in a very noticeable way. I wonder if you could have adjusted the setting in Forza to get smoother frame rates.

Rain from the cockpit in Forza doesn't make any sense, even without the wipers turned on you can still clearly see the road through the windshield.

Have both games...Bought Forza Premium, but this game made just, turn my Ps5 on and play GT7 again😅