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FOUND A MAJOR STRUCTURAL PROBLEM ON MY NEW TRIMARAN | Ep.125 

Alex Goes Sailing
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Major structural problem on my new trimaran but luckily it could be fixed easily!
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@paulstephenson8097
@paulstephenson8097 6 месяцев назад
hi Alex, I think that hose is to vent the centreboard case.
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
That was my only thought but ran with it this season and didn’t have a problem with it needing to vent luckily. Was really easy to raise and lower and I’m much happier knowing that I don’t have an extra hole in the boat!
@carlamerritt490
@carlamerritt490 6 месяцев назад
I agree with the previous comments. Totally sealed up centerboard cases get pressure built ups. They can gurgle and make odd noises. They can even spray water out if the water finds opening. It will be interesting what you learn from this.
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
@@carlamerritt490 had no problems this season with it but I will be adding a vent but in a better place and I think I have finally found a good solution.
@user-gb4hr5nt9e
@user-gb4hr5nt9e 5 месяцев назад
Hi Alex, fun videos as I've owned 3 Gemini's over the years and spen some time at the factory talking to Tony. The hose in the compression post is a necessary vent to allow the light weight ply centerboard to drop down. As you let the board down you're creating a vaccum of sorts that needs to be filled. the air from the vent does this quickly. Without the vent water has to rush up past the centerboard to fill the space left by the dropping centerboard and creates flow in the opposite direction of the dropping board working against you. since the line and crank only pull up the centerboard and the bolt only locks the centerboard at whatever level the board has dropped to, you have no way of pushing it down. Sorry, wish I had seen the video earlier. All my Gemini's had vents in the top of the centerboard cases.
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 5 месяцев назад
Yes I did realise after I shot that clip. Will be putting it in a better location as bellow the compression post wasn’t a great idea when the box section didn’t have any load spreading surfaces. Good place to hide it though
@SailingWithDave
@SailingWithDave 6 месяцев назад
Clever idea that balloon!! I was watching and asking myself, "How is he going to get that flat though!!?" but then we see!. Alex this channel is fast becoming one of my favourite watches. Can't wait to see the boat on the water but until then I am quite enjoying the DIY.
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 5 месяцев назад
Thanks Dave I really appreciate it! I have no idea how I came up with that balloon idea 😂
@miketee2444
@miketee2444 5 месяцев назад
The tube in your compression post would either eliminate all the gurgle of air trapped in keel box or more importantly, relieve the stress of buoyancy on the otherwise thin fiberglass box. The boat pounding and compressing air in that box could generate enough force to break something if not vented.
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 5 месяцев назад
Yeah one will be going back in but in a better place for sure!
@malcolmsparks8988
@malcolmsparks8988 6 месяцев назад
Hi Alex. I also believe the hose is a vent for the centreboard housing. Great video’s keep them coming.
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Yeah I think so too. Thanks for watching and plenty more to come!
@hedleyjackson5131
@hedleyjackson5131 5 месяцев назад
Well thought out solution to your problem, welded plate must help spread the load. I’ve seen people use G10 to take compression and avoid future rot, looking forward to the mast raising.
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 5 месяцев назад
Yeah g10 would be very nice! Mast raising will be out this week!
@DARIUKUSS
@DARIUKUSS 5 месяцев назад
31:28 -> There you got the -2º :D Great vid - love it
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 5 месяцев назад
Cheers!
@ooweesaler
@ooweesaler 6 месяцев назад
Excellent job. The compression post takes a huge strain when under sail. Sailing Fair Isle channel had to reset their mast after it had sunk and they used some special synthetic non compression material in the base.
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Yeah I recently watched them too! Quite the repair job!
@ZZ-ek7mx
@ZZ-ek7mx 6 месяцев назад
Alex, suggestion: don’t use plywood but use a piece of G10 solid GRP.
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
That would be really nice! Quite hard to come across unfortunately so coated with epoxy and used marine ply!
@cliverookwood2537
@cliverookwood2537 6 месяцев назад
Take care that is a breather pipe for the dagger board casing when water enters the casing so the air presser escapes. From Clive in SW France
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
It will be getting a vent but in a better place!
@AndyUK-Corrival
@AndyUK-Corrival 5 месяцев назад
Nice one Alex, sorted…. Andy UK
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 5 месяцев назад
Thanks Andy!
@SM40
@SM40 5 месяцев назад
It's possible it's original laminate. I recently did the p-bracket housing on my westerly and that had loads of dry laminate. could easily be the standard of laminating in the 80's.
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 5 месяцев назад
Possibly but this boat was built in the 2000’s 😬
@gavinferguson
@gavinferguson 6 месяцев назад
good job proper repair and will make a difference
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Thank you!!!
@fat_tommo_goes_boating
@fat_tommo_goes_boating 5 месяцев назад
Good job Alex, looks great
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 5 месяцев назад
Thanks!!!
@grahamm2015
@grahamm2015 5 месяцев назад
The channel Refit and Sail has an episode of gellcoating the topsides of a contessa 32 very useful
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 5 месяцев назад
That would be very handy!!!
@alecmartin2661
@alecmartin2661 5 месяцев назад
great video , great explanation. will be interesting to see the gel coat spider crack videos you will be doing as my newest purchase has a few i need to do.....
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 5 месяцев назад
Thank you! From my research the gelcoat stuff shouldn’t be too bad.
@chrisobrien5138
@chrisobrien5138 6 месяцев назад
Really interesting episode! 😎
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@BaileysIntWild
@BaileysIntWild 6 месяцев назад
Nice job. Those oscillating tools are brilliant.
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Thank you! They definitely are!
@seanfitzpatrick8278
@seanfitzpatrick8278 6 месяцев назад
Great Job!
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Cheers!
@felixmuller3036
@felixmuller3036 6 месяцев назад
Nice video and good job 👌 Greetings, Felix
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Thank you Felix!
@PatrickHoodDaniel
@PatrickHoodDaniel 6 месяцев назад
I'm wondering if the hose was a conduit instead for electric to go to the mast, but there is no access at the deck, so that is quite baffling. If the hose was used to run any leaks out to the clear bottom of the hull, it would have been better to just eliminate the hose because the hose would cause any uncatched water to pool to the top of the hose.
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Found out it was ment for a vent but as I discovered this season I didn’t need it as all worked well. Just one less hole in the boat!
@SuperDonald64
@SuperDonald64 6 месяцев назад
Best diy vid
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@MarcusBehrens
@MarcusBehrens 6 месяцев назад
if the vent is not there there is a chance for under- or overpressure in the box. one consequence is that the walls cave in or out and this mightweaken them over time. another one might be that at some point this pressure will find its way and create hissing noises in the best case and a path for water in the worst case. the vent is the way to prevent all this.
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Yeah that makes sense. Ran it this season as I want to find a better solution for it. Didn’t have any wall flex or anything but it should have it for this one as I have found a solution.
@kurtkoenig6945
@kurtkoenig6945 5 месяцев назад
The vent was added for what Marcus was saying but more to prevent leaks at the raising hardware from the pressure. @@AlexGoesSailing
@davidmedley9652
@davidmedley9652 6 месяцев назад
I think its most likely an air vent to allow the case to fully flood. Also could be used for flushing mud etc out of the case?
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Yeah air vent I think but annoying place for it and worked well without it this season. Just glad I got rid of an extra hole in the boat. Could add a better one back in if needed.
@sailingona
@sailingona 6 месяцев назад
Great work :) and good epoxy skills, love your videos
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@billywhizz6483
@billywhizz6483 6 месяцев назад
A stonking repair job, bombproof now! Did the balloon come out OK and how was the finish in the centreboard case?
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Thanks! Balloon came out really easy and the finish was better than I thought it would be. You can see it but it’s quite smooth and it’s hidden anyway and doesn’t need to look seem less.
@TheBeaker59
@TheBeaker59 6 месяцев назад
Yes serious structural repairs like that MUST be done in Epoxy. Polyester or even Vinyl Ester just don't have the permanent adhesive strength for that job.
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Exactly my thoughts!
@robertscholz4486
@robertscholz4486 6 месяцев назад
You know I wonder if that hose inside of the mast support was a previous owner's attempt at creating a wire chase for running new masthead wiring after the mast replacement. They might have had trouble with the stock wiring and thought it easier to run new wires through the keel box instead of pulling down the headliner. After the install of their attempt at the wire chase, they had weakened the mast support base which caused the support compression that created the dip in the coach top.
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
I found out it was a vent hose but as I found out this season, there was no problem not having one. Just glad I don’t have an extra hole in the boat under something under high load!
@richardmerrills-brown1561
@richardmerrills-brown1561 6 месяцев назад
In a big sea the CB case may come out of the water, fill with air then as the boat slams back down the water pressure will compress the trapped air that has nowhere to go. It will go for the weakest point and could blow a hole in the case. It needs that vent.
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
It will be getting a vent but just in a better place!
@grahamm2015
@grahamm2015 6 месяцев назад
Not finished watching but i would recommend G10 or similar on the top. Pound for pound stronger than steel. Only problem diamond's are cheaper. Keep up the good work
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Yeah I agree! Also quite hard to find too. Thanks for watching!
@grahamm2015
@grahamm2015 6 месяцев назад
@AlexGoesSailing I picked some 5mm A4 sheets on ebay, and doubled them up
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
@@grahamm2015 oh nice!
@pauladams3475
@pauladams3475 6 месяцев назад
Alex pretty sure the through hull was a vent for the keel box not sure what it will do not having probably slap and splash and you might find the centreboard rattles a bit more without the damping effect of water in the box, but as you previously pointed out the centre board winch system can leak so water should fill the keel box and without a vent it will just trap air and maybe cavitate
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Yeah I think it was! Ran with it this season and didn’t have any issues which is good! Very annoying place for a vent and I’m glad I have one less hole in the boat. Really easy to raise and lower and you can kind of see what’s happening in the box through the window at top which is nice too!
@arch1etatts511
@arch1etatts511 6 месяцев назад
@@AlexGoesSailing how far back in time are we?
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
@@arch1etatts511 this was 10ish months ago! Did lots of sailing so couldn’t edit as much but I’m catching up quickly!
@arch1etatts511
@arch1etatts511 6 месяцев назад
@@AlexGoesSailing Looking forward to it!
@RichardChambers
@RichardChambers 6 месяцев назад
Don’t you just love uncovering some previous owners bodges! The joys of old boats. You did good there.
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
It’s always an interesting experience 😂 thank you!
@dcallan812
@dcallan812 6 месяцев назад
well that was unexpected 🤷‍♂ Let water out of the mast. 🤣🤣 You are improving the boat and making it a lot safer, but it was a bit of a random setup.
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Very strange indeed!
@gatecrasher1970
@gatecrasher1970 6 месяцев назад
Cool video
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Cheers!
@jeremyduncan3654
@jeremyduncan3654 6 месяцев назад
You make a mould ?
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Nope! The balloon helped a lot!
@davidmedley9652
@davidmedley9652 6 месяцев назад
Another thought, could the hose be there to stop water hammer in the centre case in rough seas?
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Interesting thought! I had it in some rough stuff and didn’t see anything out of place or hear anything.
@alankoehler4327
@alankoehler4327 6 месяцев назад
I hope u left a vent there I would just put 10mm vent tube in
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Not yet but considering the best option because what it had wasn’t it! Worked fine this season but will be good to have one.
@edwardhazelden6424
@edwardhazelden6424 6 месяцев назад
Another 5 minute, 3 day boat job!😅
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
😂
@ammartinezguzman
@ammartinezguzman 6 месяцев назад
you dont really need a mast support in a deck stepped mast, a transversal beam all the way under deck and both sides of the hull will do the load spreading for the weight of the mast and it will keep the area clearer too
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
That would be cool to do but would be a big modification too. This post also supports the side to side on the centreboard casing a little too so plenty to consider.
@ammartinezguzman
@ammartinezguzman 6 месяцев назад
Yes it is,@@AlexGoesSailing For next year you could consider a dagger board slipped port side like in the corsairs and this will be used as mast load spreading too ;-p
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
@@ammartinezguzman I will check that out!
@paulharrison7914
@paulharrison7914 6 месяцев назад
Sounds like a different way of making a mast support.
@johnreuteman2724
@johnreuteman2724 6 месяцев назад
Might that be someone's attempt to run a board raising line back to the cockpit?
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Just an air vent after I did some research. Will be getting one again but just in a different place!
@damienduggan9060
@damienduggan9060 6 месяцев назад
Air burp from the keel box?
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Yeah it’s an air vent in a silly place so will be putting one in a better place!
@joewilliams5396
@joewilliams5396 6 месяцев назад
I'd love to know more about that hose fitting and why, curious. I've read the thoughts below.
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
Definitely an air vent but also had no effect without it so just glad I don’t have the extra hole in a silly place.
6 месяцев назад
it's called a compression post... it's supposed to compress... or was that the crumble zone...? well it's crumbling as well... so either way, it's fine, I guess?
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing 6 месяцев назад
The post didn’t compress luckily! The centreboard wasn’t supposed to either but the force they must have applied in transport but have been a lot!
@paulharrison7914
@paulharrison7914 6 месяцев назад
Its called a compression post because it counters compression forces. It's not supposed to compress.
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