im so excited.... i will be using your channel as a guide to teach history to my 6 yr old... she always ask questions about other ppl and were they came from
Those days Turks had got dynasties and common folks at Central Asia, Caucass, Balkans, Central Europe, Northern Europe, Northern Africa and North and eastern India. Read the Scythians and then Huns, their relations with Greek colonies and then Roman empire and then the massive wars between ancient Turks and ancient Chinese empire and the invasion of Arab empire from southwest. It is all related. It sounds magical as if Game of thrones like fantasy but it is the reality. My mother's side has mix of Egypt and Caucass Türks. My father's side has mix of Türkiye and Balkan Türks. Today we the people are a mix. Colorful nations and directly blood brothers. Love to Tunisia.
Cola Ss Hmm fair. I was mainly focused on ethnic and linguistic differences between the three. Turns out Slavs were a big thing in Spain with the Saqaliba. But mamluks themselves were mainly Turk or Circassian so the sultans would most likely be from those two groups. Not saying Slavs weren't taken tho since they were (most notable examples I can think of is Mujahid al Amiri in Spain and Sokollu Mehmed Pasha in Ottoman Empire).
@opener of the world Cleopatra is a bad example because she was a pharaoh from the Ptolemic dynasty which was of Greek origin (depending on the person, you might piss of a few Copts). But with that being said, Egypt is like Persia. You don't conquer it, it conquers you. So rulers tended to assimilate with the local populace to become "Egyptian" or "Persian". Maybe I should have phrased it a bit differently, saying 'Founded' by a Turkish dynasty instead of 'being ruled by a Turkish dynasty'. It even applies to newly found countries. Take Brazil. Ethnic Brazilians are a mix between the indigenous natives, Portugese settlers, and also a host of migrants from Italy, Spain, Germany, Lebanon, etc. Initial migrants may have been different but they slowly morphed to create one identity. If that happened within one or two generations, imagine tens or possibly even hundreds.
Both of Mamluks and Ottomans are Turks. The founders of Mamlukoids in Egypt were kipchak Turks. The formal name of Mamlukoids was "devleti Turkiya" Mamluks of egypt have written as a dictionary in kipchak dialect of Turkish language. In this dictionary, Turkmen version of the words are also determined. Turkmen (oghuz) is one of the main 3 branchs of Turks. Today, the Turks of Turkey, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Cyprus, Balkans, and Gagavuzia of Moldova come from oghuz branch of Turks. Kipchak is one of the main 3 branchs of Turks. Kazak, Kyrgiz, Crimean tatar and some folks of Caucasia come from kipchak origin.
عبدالله اليمني U can find kipchaks with blond hairs and blue eyes but with Mongolian features. Kipchaks are not caucasians. The guy above explained v well about three Turks branches. We still have kipchak tribe
عبدالله اليمني why we know who is who coz kazakhs have to know their 7 grandfathers by name. It is unwritten law in Kazakhstan and when ppl marry others check that marrying are not relatives till 7 generations.
The Ayyubid sultanate was under the Abbasid caliphate at Baghdad though, right? Not sure how these systems worked but this means Ayyubid Egypt wasn't a 100% independent nation. In fact if you google Ayyubid sultanate and Abbasid caliphate, it's easy to see the former is a subset within the latter.
Well if you're looking at it that way then technically most Muslim sultanates at that period weren't 100% independent since a large portion of them were pledged to the Abbasid caliphs, but in reality it was just lip service and they were completely independent from the Abbasid Caliphs in all their affairs.
@Mogaaj Fghgf You are right, any muslim should be like there what race/nationality isn't important as long as it serves the Ummah in a just way and fearing Allah svt. That said, Mamluk rulers are originally Turkish slaves that were brought to egypt back in the day. They were more Tatar Turks if I'm not wrong.
@@veniouse الحسن بن داوود الأيوبي في كتابه "الفوائد الجلية في الفرائد الناصرية"[13] ما قيل عن نسب أجداده وقطع أنهم ليسوا أكرادًا، بل نزلوا عندهم فنسبوا إليهم. وقال: "ولم أرَ أحداً ممن أدركتُه من مشايخ بيتنا يعترف بهذا النسب".
@@veniouse Al-Hassan Bin Dawood Al-Ayyubi in his book “The Clear Benefits of the Faraid Al-Nasiriyah” [13] What was said about the lineage of his ancestors and cut off that they are not Kurds, but they came to them and attributed them to them. And he said, "I have not seen any of the elders in our house that I have realized recognize these lineage."
@@veniouse The one who attributed the lineage of the Ayyubids to Armenia was Ibn al-Atheer and said that they were Kurds Whereas, the Ayyubid kings settled this claim and said that we are Arabs, and we got married among the Kurds Al-Muizz Ismail Al-Ayoubi attributed the lineage of Bani Aboub to the Banu Umayya
@@veniouse الذي أرجع نسب الأيوبيين إلى أرمينيا هو ابن الاثير وقال انهم من أكرادها بينما وفض ملوك الأيوبيين هذا الإدعاء وقالو نحن عرب نزلنا بين الأكراد وتزوجنا منهم المعز اسماعيل الايوبي ارجع نسب بني ابوب الى بني أمية