Start the loop @ 3:58 and listen carefully. Strip away the child's confidence and they will want to stop learning, they will become irritable and impatient, withdrawn, and eventually want to quit school. Parents, stay on guard.
@@nicoleneaga1153 Sounds like poorly trained teachers & textbooks, like 50 years ago! Textbooks define classwork, not Common Core! Too bad people don't try to understand the difference! Reminds me of 1980s when Reagan found adults could add, sub, mult etc but could not understand how to solve multistep problems. Just notice the stress caused by word problems!
When you're working for NASA and they ask for the calculations you did to verify that this rocket is going to make it to mars nobody is going to give a shit on how creative your solution to the problem was
You must realize NASA DEPENDS on creative minds finding solutions to solve problems no one ever saw before. Creative methods at a young age stimulates minds like physical exercise stimulates muscles. Are you promoting rote learning that trains human calculators instead of problem solvers?
A to Rhombus ikr it should matter what creative way works for you. It's not creative if common core came up with it because learning that isn't creativity
Definitely, it’s ridiculous what they put on these children. Common core, among many other reasons ( school shootings, bullying that the schools allow, no matter how much they talk about no tolerance for it ) are the very reason that I pulled my youngest out & started homeschooling him, & now he learns faster & better, at his pace, as opposed to the cookie cutter, one size fits all approach, I wish that I did this from the beginning !
Common core has legit ruined my life. I swear, if this damned school system isn't changed by the time I can do something about it, I'm going to change it with no remorse.
+Lizzie Neko Good luck! To hell with Rotten Core!! I'm doing what I can to get the word out to more people about the dangers the families will find themselves in. You're definitely not alone in this fight.
Reagan found U.S. produced generations of math illiterates easily confused & stressed by simple classwork. Such adults, now parents, want to practice the methods while rejecting understanding the math concepts & learning to SOLVE PROBLEMS!
@@FlashToso'implementing flexible thinking problem solving skills'. You cannot "implement" an imagination, nor creativity into a child. That is gained over years of individual exposure. How are you going to implement an imagination, by implementing a system created by someone else's imagination?
I’ve been finishing up my degree and had to take algebra in college. They taught it the common core way and everyone was failing. I went the library and got a lady who had a PhD in math teach me the regular way and passed. I basically taught myself and when it was above my understanding I went to the PhD. I learned nothing from common core
@@FlashToso Adding and multiplying numbers, subtracting and dividing them to get the answer. If you are forced to calculate them, how the hell are you going to get the final answer.
@@bmuraaz6024 Even Reagan found U.S. trained generations able to add, sub, mul, div but NOT understand or explain the concepts or solve problems! They need others to set up problems into simple classroom forms!!
@@bmuraaz6024 The 'normal methods are required, ALSO underwtaning to become a PROBLEM SOLVER,, able to do more than just add, sub, mul, div!!! CCSS.MATH.PRACTICE.MP1 Make sense of problems and persevere in solving them. CCSS.MATH.PRACTICE.MP2 Reason abstractly and quantitatively. CCSS.MATH.PRACTICE.MP3 Construct viable arguments and critique the reasoning of others. CCSS.MATH.PRACTICE.MP4 Model with mathematics. CCSS.MATH.PRACTICE.MP5 Use appropriate tools strategically. CCSS.MATH.PRACTICE.MP6 Attend to precision. CCSS.MATH.PRACTICE.MP7 Look for and make use of structure. CCSS.MATH.PRACTICE.MP8 Look for and express regularity in repeated reasoning.
What really sucks about common core is that I wasn't in middle school when it was used so now most of my high school teachers expect me to know things that I was never taught and all of my standardized tests (which are based off common core) make no sense because they include things that my classmates and I have never seen in our lives.
Darshu1337 The actual problem is not shown. They should explain the method, standard and who makes classroom choices. As usual the news media is creating stressed debates instead of informed discussions.
I'm not a expert, but i do know that CC was not created by anyone qualified to do so. The professionals and experts they hired to evaluate CC were all opposed to it. They conveniently removed their names from the project and now they go state to state explaining why CC is nothing more then a money grab.
I have a Bachelor Degree in Mechanical Engineering, and a master Degree in Aerospace Engineering. On the days that I am off, I am a math tutor from elementary to college. Seeing this common core is making these students so confused that they find a way to try to opted out. Seen more students drop out of school and not to get their GED. When I help tutor, I tell them to drop the common core standard and i work a way that they can solve the problem in a much easier way. And I have gone personally to multiple math teachers and told them frankly that yes common core is the standard way of teaching, but the students have to find a way that works best for them. Everyone works differently. So I persuade the teachers not to take off points because they didn't use the common core standardize method. Personally, why do they have to change something that was working just fine in the past. where teachers help the student to understand a problem and work a way that the students could understand the problem.
textbook?? I'm not sure what you are saying. from this video, the school district and even the state approve this common core to be the standard way of teaching. I know where i live some of the school district are pretty much doing the same thing, which is making these kids fail. There is no need to change that has been working for a long time. go back to the basics and teach them that. they will success a whole lot more then this common core.
adding machine is also problem solving. common core doesn't do that. its too convoluted. you have to be an adding machine to think outside of the box and problem solve to get to the solution. I do this for a living and i know what i am talking about. doing typical math equation help solve problem. none of my co-workers don't do common core solutions. we get a problem and we solve it whatever way to get to the solution, and that is should be the way of teaching. not to stress the kids out.
jasonman1515 You'll be glad to know CC agrees with you. Look at the motivating goals. Do not confuse standards with how textbooks and classroom choices implement them. www.nctm.org/uploadedFiles/Standards_and_Positions/PSSM_ExecutiveSummary.pdf www.nctm.org/Publications/Teaching-Children-Mathematics/Blog/What-Do-the-Standards-for-Mathematical-Practice-Mean-to-You_/ Read the standards for mathematical practices. www.corestandards.org/Math/Practice/
I used to LOVE math and science until Jr. High, where my school used the Common Core system. I hated it! They made things much more complex and complicated than it's supposed to be. My teacher would not explain the steps for a math problem. Instead, she told me ~figure it out yourself by using your own creative way~~ then she would complain about my F's. I'm in high school now and it doesn't use CC. I have a 98% in my Algebra class and I'm recommended to go to Honors Geometry this fall. Common Core should be removed from schools. It does no good at all and does not prepare people for the real world.
Exactly. If I ever get married and become a mother someday, my husband and I are gonna homeschool our children instead of letting the state torture them like this.
Home schools & highest performing nations use the same approach! Textbooks define classwork, not Common Core! Too bad people don't try to understand the difference! NAEP shows highest performing & most improved states use Common Core. Success depends on effective local choices like textbooks.
If you want your child to learn about the government and political status, take them to civics classes and debate community program instead of using common core.
@@FlashToso Because it isn't efficient. People want to do things in the most efficient way. Not the most complicated or confusing way, that is why the U.S is worse at education than even countries like Mali and Angola.
@@bmuraaz6024 The STANDARD method is NOT efficient? Common Core REQUIRES the standard method! Teaching alternative strategies is NORMAL, check algebra, & does NOT mean replacing 'normal' math! Alternatives avoid 'one size fits all', help understand concepts, learn mental math, etc, & stimulate minds to produce flexible, thinking problem solvers not easily confused or stressed by simple real world problms! Just watch the stress caused by SIMPLE 'word' problems.
@@bmuraaz6024 U.S. trained generations of mindless human calculators producing parents easily confused by simple classwork. We need PROBLEM SOLVERS who don't need OTHERS to 'set up' problems into simple form.
They say they want to get kids to think outside the box on math. they were then the school systems and common core build a bigger steel box around the kids.
Regular math is what Common Core requires. You must need to know HOW the math concepts work to help solve problems? That is the main goal & why CC is desired!
@@MondoBeno Try using the 'old' paper method to do mental math or make change. Common Core REQUIRES the 'old' efficient way. Alternatives are chosen by teachers & textbooks to stimulate minds, help understand concepts, avoid 'one size fits all' etc'
Well if creativity is really the end goal, then you'd teach students the basics and then allow them to think of different ways that work for them to get the correct answers on their own time. They should be able to think creatively, or decide to stick with what they've been taught. It should never be "Be creative, but only this creative way that I will dictate to you, and if you don't do it this creative way then you're wrong."
Old school taught the basics but didn't EXPLAIN, so math was not meaningful! How can kids come up with their own ways if they don't understand 'CONCEPTS"?
I would tell this teacher that us parents and grandparents have already went to school for math! Common Core is away to get our children to listen to the Goverment!
you cant think outside of the box, when the box is not "a box". common core apparently defines the box with 5 sides without being allowed to use the Pythagorean theorem.
Strange classwork stimulates minds to produce flexible thinking problem solvers. Reagan found generations were math illiterates easily confused by simple classwork!
3:11 You can still teach something creatively without changing its overall message or function. For example, on day 1 of the lesson, you could explain the traditional (or old) way of solving a problem, see if the students understand it, and if they don't, on day 2, re-explain it without changing the methodology--until you reach an explanation everybody can understand. So, instead of having them solve a Math problem using symbols on paper, have them use physical objects to illustrate the process of borrowing and paying-back. Don't try and redefine borrowing-and-paying-back with some other form of action, like making ends-meet. Keep it simple. Keep it real. Creating a whole new system may only confuse students and, thus, require more changes in the future, which defeats the purpose of changing it to begin with.
homeschool mom here: I got my first look at "New math" when my first child was in public 3rd grade. It took me a little while to understand where it was coming from because I was brought up old school( You just do it that way because I say you do it that way). I am now homeschooling my second child and using the Singapore math system-what a relief! It's so easy to follow and so helpful. I highly recommend it if your child is struggling. but honestly, as another commenter pointed out, kids don't want to do 7 hours of school and then more homework-that is burning them out. and working parents are stretched to the limit! my heart goes out to them. summer school may be the only option.
I took my kidergarten child out this week and moving to home school. Don't pick just any curriculum. I found one that won't stress my child and split her personality. That is the objective in school!! And much more. I will be making truth pamphlets and spreading the word. No one goes and checks on their kids these days yet wonder why th eery cone home acting like a different person.. I know why. Don't send your child school! Keep them home and remember this the time for GOD as well. We must arm ourselves!
If you have to have special classes for parents to learn the new math so that your students who can't figure out what you are doing can turn to their parents to teach it to them, then you are not doing your job as a teacher. You are doing the job as a times waster. Clearly the children understand math the old way and just being taught to try it a few new ways which sounds fine to a teacher that doesn't understand that a child spending every day at desk or table from the time they wake up until the time they go to sleep is not healthy.
From the outside looking in, and I mean from a country with one of the best education systems looking into the US, where the education system is the worlds worst I can see Americans getting dumber if they continue this common core crap. It sounds great, but after seeing how math is taught I'm dumbfounded. How could anyone think this is ok!
I don't see an advantage of common core in this day of age when we have calculators or even a pencil and piece of paper to work the problems out. It seems those that are for common core are because they can work them out in their head more easily without writing it down. I don't think we need to be human calculators today in this world with all the gadgets we have qaat the disposal. Mathsd was much easier when you can work them out on a piece of paper without adding extra steps like this.
Common core is the deliberate method of producing equality at a low level. It's social justice education based on "fairness" rather than actually teaching children to think and excel.
I always hated math until I met a wonderful teacher. When he was explaining it to us, I started to do math exercises and problems for FUN. I agree that Common Core is a Common Core of Problems.
You describe problems found in 1980s that triggered standards & Common Core. Textbooks define classwork, not Common Core! Too bad people don't try to understand the difference!
You don't get people to think more by making the same problems more complex. You present them with more complex problems. Just teach them higher levels of math if you think the material was too easy. Now they're going to struggle with basic things compared to the rest of the world since the use a higher level of complexity on higher level problems. It's like running a marathon with led shoes, and then expecting the same times. You will be doing more effort for the same results, while if you people do more effort without the complication of the lead shoes, they will be able to achieve better results.
+Bananas and Bass People learn by understanding, not by becoming calculators, like these parents want. Otherwise they can't tackle harder problems Why don't I see comments on Standards for Mathematical Practices www.corestandards.org/Math/Practice/
+Bananas and Bass I haven't looked deep enough into it to figure our if what they are doing could be beneficial but math isn't something you creatively answer at least not at this low level. You have to understand the basics of it before you can start getting into the creative problem solving aspect. That creativity is already built in I remember in calculus getting the questions right only got you a quarter of the points it was showing how you did it that mattered and I have asked my professors and they said if they way you get the answer makes sense it doesn't matter what method you use. If they want to get the kids to be more creative which is a good thing teach this early creativity through writing or the arts. Let them play minecraft or play with leggo's teach them to stay creative with the subjects that essentially are purely subjective fields.
That reporter gave an incorrect explanation of statistics. She said, "we can see that more of the students are younger than the median." But in fact, there are equal numbers of students younger and older than the median. From working with my children, I've learned that that is the definition of a median. What the reporter should have said is that there is a greater "spread" of students younger than the median. The difference between children and adults is that adults learn better than children. And I think many adults, including this news reporter, would understand math better if they had better access to teaching materials, instead of just assuming we can and should know this stuff simply because we are adults. As has been said, you don't go to school to learn things; you go to school to learn HOW to learn things. I volunteer at an after-school tutoring program, and I don't think it's right to ask parents to teach. They don't have time to listen to the lecture and they don't have access to textbooks because schools keep them under lock and key to protect them from a bouncing backpack. Instead, I think every city should have an after-school tutoring program. Teaching kids is like painting a wall; it takes two coats. The first coat primes, and the second coat provides coverage. I meet many students who feel that they are entitled to not read or study or memorize. They learn this attitude from their parents who say, "this stuff is crap." I never argue with this, because I agree. I think all curricula is crap. Who needs to know the Pythagorean Theorem? Less than 1 percent of us. The purpose of school is not to learn the crap; it's to learn HOW to learn. Any debate about the curriculum is missing the point of education, which is to know your own brain and how to use it. The only real question is how and who should be the models for doing so? Teachers, parents, or tutors? I have great sympathy for parents who don't know the curriculum. Why should they? Even this Fox reporter doesn't know the curriculum. So how are parents supposed to cope? The bigger problem is the students who say, "this is crap. I don't have to read this. I'm a kid. I should be allowed to stay a kid and enjoy my childhood for those few short years that I have before I become an adult and work for a living." (an actual quote from one of my students.) This student told me she has her mother "wrapped around my finger," and I suspect that her mother doesn't know that the word 'education' means to gently pull or push kids out of childhood and into adulthood. Parents shouldn't be required to know all the answers to school; the only three lessons parents should be required to teach are how to a) tolerate frustration, b) solve problems, and c) learn HOW to learn. The parents who bring their children to my after-school program are teaching their kids how to be problem solvers and to get help, and I don't blame any of them for not knowing the material. Any adult can learn this stuff, given the time. And that's the real point: We should be teaching kids how to learn and use their brain. Imagine how much worse our education system would be if we just gave kids materials that every adult knew without thinking? If we were Neanderthals, that would be fine, and we could just go on using the same stone tools for millennia after millennia. But human beings are supposed to know our own mind before we learn about adult tools. That's what schools are doing and I approve of the way they are doing it. It's how human beings should be taught.
Admittedly, while I am just starting to look into this system -- overall, this system of learning completely contradicts most basic fundamentals of computational modeling. While I see teachers in corresponding videos use words like "algorithm" and "system" to 2nd graders, context of these words used in elementary schools settings appears to be repulsive and diminutive to the actual fields where this syntax originated from . (e.g. systems engineering) When designing a computational algorithm, or a query per say, one must optimize computation to utilize as little overall energy as possible. Optimization should be done in respect to the amount of memory available. We, as humans, have varying memory banks, but it certainly exceeds a single linear transaction. Old systems were formed organically with that in mind. We all have the common sense to understand that: 5+12 is 17; without segmenting/parsing 12 (10+2), performing the operand (10 + (5+2)), and then compiling the output, all while visualizing it on a linear spectrum(not to mention all that writing). I know this response is very ridiculous, but so is this system... There are applications where these computational methods have proven to be very successful-- for example, computational fluid dynamics, where multiple vectors are viewed in similar fashion, but those functions are best left to computers. Computers have marginally faster firing circuits designed to accommodate specific processes and capability of parallel computing --we don't.Humans on the other hand can interpret multi-variable multi-dimensional information in a way that can not be simply visualized,explained, or interpreted -- so let the humans do the thinking, dreaming,designing; and leave computing to the computers.
We are talking about learning, maybe you forgot. Computer programs build layers of higher level commands from simple built in commands and newly defined commands. Learning is building new knowledge from previous knowledge, just like adding vocabulary defined from exsting known words.
This is the dumbing down of society. If you present a problem to a child, they will utilize different mental strategies without the homogenized one way only method that Common Core is presenting.
My dad tried to help me with my homework. Hour later he got an answer and when I got it back, the question we answered was wrong, he was really frustrated.
If you want a job as a professional mathematician, you need to know how to be creative in solving math problems, since you'll be solving problems that no one has ever solved before. But the scope of the math problems where creativity is needed to solve them, is far beyond basic arithmetic, that it is a complete waste of time to require you to be creative in solving at that point.
Did that principle "think outside the box" when choosing her carrier and life path? Not even close... She's such a sheeple.. She went with the flow.. That's not thinking outside the box..
I like how the teacher said the point was to make students be more creative in finding solutions, but.. If they find an easier way to do the problem, they'll be graded wrong for not following the way the teacher said to do it..
Yes, what that teacher said really disturbed me. It seems some educators are more concerned with having your child conditioned to unquestioningly obey authority, rather than learn. Very troubling.
Heres the thing about common core. They're using methods that take a whole lot of intuition to be able to deal with. So yes, common core will make your child think, but a kid has got to be a damn near genius to figure anything out! They say the old way only teaches kids only to memorize. I say that's bullshit. I learned math the old way, and sure, I have a few things memorized, but you better believe I know how the whole operation works. I have things memorized so that I can get the math problem done quickly. I could easily work common core math a grade below me because I understand math taught the "old" way. I would already have the intuition required to see through all common core's little, trick manipulations from working through the math the old way. Students can understand math taught how it was. It doesn't mean they will get a concept immediately. You're stupid if you think anyone wouldn't need soak time to contemplate a concept before understanding it.
+Hannah Kahrs Exactly! I learned how to do math when I was elementary school. I learned how to think about math in middle school and learned how to use math in high school. A natural progression. There was no need for me to think deeply about math in elementary school, except to count money (something most kids don't know how to do) and tell time (something else most can't do). The main advocates of common core are those who hated math to begin with. If they want to use common core, fine. But introduce it in the 3rd or fourth grade, AFTER the kids have mastered basic math. As a side note. Do they realize that the time it takes kids to do a common core math assignment, they would have instagrammed 15 pictures, sent out 20 tweets, retweeted 50, downloaded 15 songs and 1 movie, replied to 5 Facebook post and face-timed at least 2 friends. Kids these days are not patient. They want things instantaneously and common core is not what they expect.
I dont agree to what the principal is saying... My 9th grade math teacher came up to me and asked what 6+7 was...I replied 13...he said I was wrong and went on and on...like wtf
I hate that they just assume we want to learn to change our whole way of thinking at age 30 just to accommodate their stupid strategies. I'm pulling my child out. This is ridiculous.
the school is where we send our children to learn, not to have the teachers send the work home so we have to spend the rest of our day trying to teach them what the teacher did not .
Math is not creative. Math minded people are logical and logical solutions are those with the least amount of steps. Creativity has nothing to do with it. Get the kids to learn basic math. It is foolish to even try to play the common core math learning game. It will make your kids stupid.
It's called a Box and Whisker Chart in statistics. Essentially, you sort a list of data points, and divide it into four equally populous groups called quartiles. The box represents the inner two quaartiles, and the line in the middle of the box is the median. The whiskers represent the two outer quartiles. This is a way of visually representing the center, spread, and skew, of a list of numbers.
I feel like teachers think that students don't have lives outside of school. My math teacher gives me homework every night and u spend an hour and a half. Sometimes it takes me longer than that because I am new to this school and at my old school I wasn't in advanced math like I am now so sometimes I've got no clue what they are asking for sometimes.
Check out , The case against common core!! over 2 hours long, worth the watch.. It explains who and the why..I'm 65 have no children have watched it twice. Everybody should watch expecially if you have children.Trying to tell WATCH!!!!
This is like using a herd of goats to cut your lawn. You could use the old tried and true "lawnmower method" but we want to think outside the box for the sake of... thinking outside the box?!
There are a few things for how to learn to read Decide precisely why you want to learn Decide which process works for you the best. (I read about these and more from Pronto learner compendium site )
Would help to see what math teachers think! www.nctm.org/Standards-and-Positions/Common-Core-State-Standards/Teaching-and-Learning-Mathematics-with-the-Common-Core/
Im 12 and a stright A student and why is because I dont use the commen core method and get yelled at for not using it but I get a A+ because they can't x it off if its not wrong lol
so, the parents have to learn this new math over the internet to be able to help their children because there teachers can't teach it effectively? Is that what I'm hearing?
That woman completely misinterpreted the box and whisker plot. By definition, exactly half of the students are younger, and half are older than the median. That's what a median is. What she should have said is that the lower quartile is significantly further from the median that the upper quartile.
My family are geniuses when it comes to math/science. At least 10 cousins/siblings in engineering/biotech or related fields. I personally tested into calculus junior year of high school. CC makes no sense to teach the masses. Yes, it looks at the world through another lens. However, what about those students who get it through the traditional lens? My cousin couldn't even help his younger sister with her 6th grade math homework to the standards satisfaction and he is a biotech doctor designing medical hardware and software! At one point she told him she understands what the answer if but don't know how to come up with it.
I don't have kids but I have tried to help my friend's son a few times. It's terribly confusing but, I think, what they are trying to teach the kids the same process that adults use to figure problems in their head. If you want to ad 78 & 86, you kinda break it into tens in your head. 7 tens plus 8 tens is 150, then you add the 8 & the 6. That's 14, so you have one more ten, which makes 160, plus the 4 & you get 164. Problem is, that gets excessively complicated trying to write it all out on paper, especially if it isn't a simple addition problem. Not to mention, not everybody thinks that way. Standard math has worked fine for hundreds of years. It's the best way to teach basic math. If some students learn to do base 10's in their head later on, great, but trying to teach kids to write out, or illustrate, that process is a disaster.
It is great to teach a different perspective in seeing a problem. However, to force a student to answer a question in a particular way in no longer teaching to think outside of the box. It is teaching to work within the constraints of the box. Ultimately the objective should be to help solve a problem. Once they solve it how they go there is irrelevant forcing them to show their work one particular way is creating another problem all together.
Common core is what happens when you leave politics in charge of education instead of teachers. It's not the teachers, they're trained to teach them in different learning styles actually. Such disregard and saying it's the teacher's fault when it's politics and administrators who because of the politicians running this stuff are contributing to the shortage of teachers.
I do completely agree to let the the students solve the problems their own way.I just hate Commen Core so much! I got into so many fights with my parents about math problems.The math it was "trying" to teach me. Almost drove me insane. I really want to talk to my math teacher about this but she doesn't really like me that much. And most likely won't listen.
You know my kids have and are struggling so so much with this stupid common core crap. All this is doing to our kids is taking away the fact that kids can't be kids when they come home from school. They have to sit at the dining room table for one to two + hours and still work when they come home from school. Plus this takes away from family time each day. Then you know what happens.. you have a depressed child and an angry mom and dad. And the rest of the day is ruined because everyone is upset because the child is crying at the dining room table still trying to figure this common core stuff out. There's things me and my husband can't help our kids with simply because we were not taught this way 😡
WTF is this BS. You can't imply logic differently. Logic is logic. It is either right or wrong. It isn't like an english class where you are graded in your feelings about words. This is math for crying out loud.
Well anyone knows that 12/2 in fraction mode is simply 6 cause the fraction bar is one of two ways that represents division (÷ being the other one) and is saying 12 divided by 2. God, my brain can't deal with the bullshittery "Common (Communist) Core" really is today.
College preparedness exam question through Common Core for the single graduate: If Mahomnomadad & John are at the corner of Hussein ave, & 66th street and Mohomnomadad sees Renee's left hamhock first, while trudging full gallop (bottle of Jose Quervo & wine coolers in hand) at John from Hussein ave, which direction is Renee traveling AND, in which opposite direction should John flee in order to avoid state arranged marriage, 2 auctionable female offspring, 1 son that will behead him, and a plastic multiple cadaver cremation casket? (plastic cremation caskets do very little harm to the environment when burned by the way.. Eco- friendly!!! just sayin yo.... )
My daughter started school with Common Core math and shes in High School now. She hates math and wants nothing to do with it, she doesnt wanna have a career in economics or engineering bc they have math 🤦♀️
