Foxbody Myths, I cover some of the common misconceptions.... 

I actually prefer the LX’s appearance over the GT’s. It just seems cleaner to me.

SSP's also had an oil cooler( you had to use a FL300 oil filter cause of clearence issues), a better alternator and reinforced floor pans. The later years used the 160 certified speedo. I had one of these for 10 years and regret everyday I sold it.

He's recording from a church parking lot, he must be telling the truth.

tired of my slow lx. shoulda bought a gt instead. oh well i guess ill have to swap in a police interceptor motor. haha jk

My buddy's neighbors cousins had a GT Cobra. It was rare. We went to dairy queen and saw some girls. My buddy honk at them

My pet peeve, is when a direct drive fan is still called a fan clutch

Learned a lot right there! You make me miss my 89 LX convertible, 88 LX sunroof and 86 GT. Oh the memories. Subscribed!

Its funny how at the time these were new All I wanted was a GT. I LOVED them. I could not make myself like the Notchback. Now thats all I want. A good clean Notchback

The 1978-83 Ford Fairmont was a nice fox body too!

I’d Rather get an LX than a GT

I'm glad to see there's still people out there that really know that are foxbodys!! I happen to have an 85 LTD with a 92 drivetrain out of an LX 5.0, and it is extremely fun as a sleeper!! Cam headers Flowmasters and pulley kit, and I'm surprising the shit out of a lot of cars at stop lights!! Keep up the good work man!!

I bought an 88 GT 5 speed convertible in May 1988 and I appreciate you clearing the air.

My father used to own a 1988 Lincoln LSC and we used to drag the car on weekends at Cayuga drag strip. Aww those were the days! LOL! Great vid by the way! 🇨🇦👌

We used to call those rims 10 holes if you polish those rims they come out beautiful thanks for the info God bless

I used to drive a 1993 Ford Escort 2-door hatch, loved that thing! Once I got a chance to drive a 1993 Mustang GT and was actually shocked at how similar the interior was laid out and how the driving felt. It literally felt like I was driving my own car but with much more power and a little more solid.

Well said, I've grown up building these cars and you are on point !

The Canadian cobra story... ha Had a 90 conv gt “cobra” sticker car. People used to overplay it for me!! And lx’s were usually lighter and faster! Nice rant!

300 foot pounds of torque not 300 hp. Good info. I have heard the LX is lighter than a GT.

Thanks for the post very informative and your build looks like it coming along great.

I have a 1986 mustang GT, T-tops, loaded. Only 59,000 kms. Bought it new. Nice summer cruiser. Brand new condition. Great video. 👍

My pet peeve is when the blue “high miler” as in (mileage) hoses are pronounced as “high Miller”. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

Rolling in my 5.0 rag top down so my hair can flow.

I bought my 1989 Mustang LX 5.0 convertible in July 1990, I still have it, mainly a weekend car, has 110,000 miles now. I really enjoy you bringing up things I just wondered about, Thank you.

I really like that you explain in detail on foxbody myths to a lot of knuckleheads myself included. I have owned over 10 mustangs, not at the same time. From a 79 four banger to a 2014 V6. I'm still looking for those other 2 cylinders for my V6. LOL Great video 👍

Great video! I still want a Fox body. I know my things about the 79 to 04 Fox chassis. The Fox platform was introduced in 1978 on the Fairmont. Ford definitely made a number of them in it's 26 year run. I still love them for it's simple engineering. Who can't say that they are simple to work on. I'm so going to found one in 2020. If you got any connections to anyone that is willing to sale a good Fox. Preferring a GT 87 to 93. I'm willing to pay $4500 for the car. Great video. Looking forward to the next one.

I had an 86 lx notch 5.0. Miss that car dearly.

Thank you Thank you for clearing up the mess. People have a hard time understanding platform (chassis) sharing.

I just found this after finding a sticker on the back of an Escape at pull a part. I'm now subscribed. Thanks. 😀

do a cam install while the motors in the bay on a fox

My 93 coupe with power everything weigh in at 2860 on draglites everything else stock

Finally, someone who understands Fox Bodies, I have had Mercury Zephyr, Ford Fairmonts, Mercury Capri and 4 pot headlight Mustangs all Fox Bodies, and yes you;'re correct about the Cobra name, it follows the same concept if you don't use the name you lose it, it is part of the copyright laws, you have earned a new subscriber.

Coming from a Chevy Guy, this was an interesting and very informed video! Great job!

I want an LTD it’d be so cool, I enjoyed watching this video whilst in my fox body lol

Do a FOXBODY DRIFT build!

I love the "yellowing" on the bumper. My 84 T-bird did was the same way. Oh how I miss that car

Love this video. I have 3 mustangs. A 97 gt, a 98 gt and a 04 v6 base model. Love all of them equally. Can't learn enough about mustangs and the history behind them.

my pet peeve "its super rare" in for sale ads..... Really means I want stupid money for my clapped out fox body needing tons of work.. Its rare because options where dirt cheap and more people wanted options.. About the ssp coolant hoses "hi miller"? you mean Hi-miler? (like mileage) hoses..... That was the name of the cheaper goodyear EPDM rubber blue one's now sold by Continental . Fords where a silicone blend. Nothing "miller" about them just silicone/ polyester . you can't find them any more because china flooded the market with cheap and poorly made silicone kits that won't last anywhere near as long as the motorcrafts did. Gates and Eaton still offer that type of hose for HD equipment but not much automotive anymore.

Good video

Thank you so much buddy I’m loving the tips! My aunt just gave me her 87’ gt vert, dove grey fox body and I’m going to start my first ever project car. I’m starting with suspension and rigidity what do you recommend I do first, I noticed the the verts have more parts for rigidity so I honestly don’t know where I I start..

Man I love your channel I miss my 87 lx notchback so bad hopefully one day I will have another one

what about a 3/4 race cam ?

Seriously. Those 5.0 High output motors are good to put turbos and superchargers on. #Roadkill

Good video. You gave me knowledge I didn’t know. I’m definitely a subscriber now.

Love it! Common sense explanations...nothing else needs to be said. Good video. .

The lx actually had a higher top speed then the gt, I believe when car and driver drove them because the gt had more drag

I remember when "Police Interceptor" meant something!!!

Finaly someone with knowlodge on these awesome cars... And by the way all it takes is reading ..History of mustangs snd it presents all this info... Specialy the foxbody concept wich was shared with other models as the cougar, thunderbird and such. Good going on the video... Man.👍

I remember seeing a 1983 5.0 LX, brand new, sitting at the Ford dealer in 1983. It was my first time seeing one. Sitting right next to a GT irronically. I had a 1985 GT purchased used in 85 with 8300 +/- miles. I also purchased a 88 LX 5.0 convertible new in early 89. Great cars!

also, the lx was found to be a little quicker than the gt due to weight differences. i remember reading that back in the day in hot rod or something.

FYI: lx coupe is 500 lbs lighter than a gt hatchback. so technically by wieght to hp ratio lx should be faster

I watched one of your videos and found it very interesting my car has been at a well-known shop in Virginia for a engine rebuild now for about a year

2:52 Could you tell me what that fan assembly is? I wanna keep a clutch fan on my GT vert for the old-school look, and I'm loving that one!

Lol so true !! If I remember correctly, here north of the border the “Cobra” cars were ‘86-88. And it Was just a sticker. The 300 # was the torque rating. but there were always those losers that thought they had something special.

Man I want that ssp mustang soo bad can you please give it to me that'd be great thanks

Good shit man. Simple and very educational. I wonder what the plan is for the wagon.

great vid. I have had the argument with so many people about the mustang cobra & they are convinced there cars are Cobra's but can't tell you how they are any different than a regular GT. I didn't know it was to hold onto the name so thanks.

I have a canadian gt cobra

Here is a misconception for you, " mustang's are junk."... says the LS fanboy using a foxbody chassis lol.

Great video, thanks for clearing that up! I got me one of those ultra-rare LX GT Cobra Foxbodies with the 300 HP Police Interceptor engine...LOL! It has been a lot of years since any Ford cars with "real" Police Interceptor engines have come out of the factories with more HP than any other Ford with the same engine.

Always loved the LX's - I had 2 89s, both 5.0/5 spd hatches. The last one I had (fully loaded and bone stock) weighed 3,170. I never dyno'd it stock, but with pullies, shorty headers, off-road H and a timing bump made 219hp/274tq on a dynojet. Added big and little Welds with the old bias ply ET Streets and 4.10s and it went 13.3@101

The LXs were actually faster than the GT because the GT was heavier. Plus the power rating was 5 hp different between the 5spd and AOD cars. I think car and driver listed them at like 210 auto 215 5spd.

People actually have told you that an LX is slower than a GT?? LOL...The LX is faster since they tended to be a bit lighter. Your stripper LX is a good example of that. GT's tended to be loaded. Although I have a friend that had a stripper 87 GT with manual windows and mirrors. He had the only one I ever saw that way. He nicknamed it the Amish mustang. Great video like normal. Your videos really make me want to find another foxbody mustang.

Great video and info. I love my 83 GLX 5.0. The original owner optioned it w/o power windows. mirrors or AC. It's got chrome trim on the mirrors, door frames and great sky blue velour seats. Someday soon I will have to paint the original midnight blue metallic paint and will have to decide to have them recreate the pinstripes on the body and body trim. I am never going to sell this car!

This made me giggle. I've heard all those things before. Great video

Come get some 900hp 2.3!!!!!! BOI !!!!!

Ok. Let's get the bad out of the way first. When it comes to an 88 speed density car vs an 89 mass air, I will choose the mass air every time. Why? Because although people say the 88 was the fastest, EVERY freak car that I came across was an 89 and the 89 had the best cam as well. Every 88 that I worked on was lacking a bit in the torque department compared to an 89. Now, a big thanks for being the other person that seems to knw why Ford put the name Cobra on the cars. I was getting sick and tired of dumbasses telling me they had a special edition. Same with the Anniversary plaque on the dash. YOUR CAR IS NOT SPECIAL BECAUSE OF THE PLAQUE. Blue hoses are silicone. Called the rims 10 holes. 1987 GT had "cheesegrater tailights" and "food processor" rims.A fully loaded LX hatch would weigh the same as a GT. Hatch weighs 50 lbs more than trunk, but some people believe that the weight is in the right spot, over the rear wheels to give more traction. Chidrole and Jay Why. J&P used to race turbo Dodges and went Ford hard core when Joe got the red notchback. Last name is Da Silva. Paul had the black Mercury Cougar XR7. Paul did the engine work. They started off in Scarborough. Barbados Ct. Joe and Paul went separate ways Da Silva racing with Joe selling a lot of bolt ons and body kits. Paul is PSP (Paul Silva Performance). Joe's shop is 1km from my house and the last time I saw Paul was.....yesterday at Cayuga. Back in the day, I bought some parts from J&P and engine parts from Tommy Morana at AfFORDable performance and Wade from RCHS. Chassis parts from Lucky Marcos at Lucky's performance where we used to buy our VP fuels on the way to Cayuga. I met Joe and Paul at Finch and Weston in 1988. Tommy Morana at Vic Park and Gordon Baker in 1987. Also we went to Warden and Sheppard, Dundas and Confederation, Pine Valley and HWY7. All after midnight, if you know what I mean... Go back to the track, you won't regret it. What smells better than burnt VP fuel and tire smoke? Have an unhealthy burger and fries and sit on the same bleachers from back in the day. Saw a bunch of 1980-1990 Mustangs yesterday. Nothing newer. Some of them still powershifting a 5 speed running insane times.

Loving the page, man! S197 fan here!

Great vid. Thanks, love my Fox.

If i hear one more idiot selling an explorer intake calling it a GT40 and asking $300 for it, I am going to scream. That and those that say you HAVE to set the TPS to .98 and that underdrive pulley do anything but cause overheating and cooling problems

Dude!!! I get it your goin after the non fox or mustang crowd, but dang,its getting old with your not working on or not finishing your coyote build and 3rd grader vids , not to be a jerk but you need to see make a decision on who you want to be your followers, someone who can't change a spark plug or true foxbody lovers???

FINALLY SOMEBODY SAID IT!!!!! Ive had 11 foxbodys over the years and the one i heard the most was..." yeah the FHP mustang has a chip in it" lol good job finally joining me in clearing the myth lol

This brings back great memories. In H.S. I picked up my 1990 reg GT back new back in the day and my brother picked up a white '90 LX 5.0 at the same time. Had loads of fun with them on the street and then at the track. I could beat 2nd and 3rd gen F bodys, but C4 Vettes and Grand Nationals would inch me out. I used to hit terminal velocity on I95 going home late at night and it would shake itself apart and then boil the brake fluid and warp the rotors when I had to stop in a hurry. Mine was a factory freak and was faster than the other ones. It was awesome because they were dirt cheap working part time as a bussboy I could easily afford it. Raw lightweight car for sure.

It's still just an escort with a v8...

Thank you. I own a 88 notch and an 83 Ltd wagon and a lot of people don't understand they are both foxes. Also the police interceptor motor is so true. Drives me crazy!

Another question...is there anything i can do to clean the sunroof drain holes ? Im not sure if all the mustangs have it or just the older stuff like mine..1985...now people that dont know will look

Holy cow that was the most information I've ever gotten for my fox body I have a four-eyed Fox body, I was corrected a couple months ago with the Canadian Cobra aspect of it, I did buy my in Canada I've had it since 1989 it's an 85, it's black with the gray interior I don't think they made a lot of them the kilometer aspect on the speedometer is kind of funny, but I can't tell you how much I appreciate all the information you have given me, if I'm not mistaken the GT of that 85s were actually somewhere between 3 to 500 lb heavier because of the hatchback style trunk, but I could be wrong I'm not sure again thank you for all your information it is extremely useful, so I don't make an ass out of myself again. On the upside I do love that 85 it is brutally quick it is completely original, and it's kind of like driving a cat with its tail on fire it just wants to come around on you.lol

Had 87 freak 5.0 gt. Ran low 13.80s @102 stock engine with drag radials with pro 5.o shifter, and h pipe and flomasters.

I wanna get into drag racing and am wondering would a convertible 5.0 foxbody Mustang be a good start

I own a '90 Lincoln Mark VII LSC SE, the "rich man's Fox". I love everything about it. 170K miles, virtually all stock, it's a great Fox body platform car and a hot rod Lincoln luxury sports coupe all in one.

All the speedometers were certified the same way. I worked for ford and ran a department that did warranty swaps on clusters. We ran calibration tests on ALL the clusters we touched. Same bench, same program.

👍 on the video. I particularly liked when you pointed out the difference between LX & GT is only the trim. My 90 LX is making 204whp. It has been lightly modified. GT40P heads with 1.7 rockers, tubular headers, CAI with 1" manifold spacer. To help reduce drivetrain loss, an aluminum drive shaft. Keep up the good work with the videos. Can't wait to hear your Coyote swap fire up.

The 87-88 motors were no more stout than the 89-92, however the hotter cam and speed density fueling made them the only true factory 225hp cars. 2-3hp was lost going to the milder cam and mass-air. All 5.0 Mustangs used forged pistons from 85-92 and were replaced by sintered.powdered metal hyper-eutectic types in 93. Forged pistons are marked trw on the underside. Proud owner of a showroom stock 89 GT daily driver. Great video.

When I was younger I had a `91 Mustang LX Convertible 5.0, loved that thing. Even though it had a little more weight from the top and subframe connectors, it seemed to balance out vs. the extra ground effects. Mine would outrun many of my friend's GT's. Not sure if it was weight, or perhaps I drove better, but I definitely preferred the LX 5.0 with the shiny chrome pipes sticking out from under the bumper. Recently got a 2018 5.0 GT Convertible, metallic grey with the upgraded aluminum wheels, WAAAAAY faster :-)

Just wondering wat u thought about the 4 cylinder turbo mustangs. I’m about to buy a very clean 93 and was just wondering

Hey bro.. just did my 373 gears any ideas why im getting that whining noise when i let go of the gas?

Oh' sorry i forgot to ask & I'm sorry if i missed it. But what do you guy's charge for a cobra swap? Would appreciate it if you could let me know, again thank you sir, ur video's help.

I always liked the look of the nice stainless steel exhaust coming out of the rear of the LXs

Hey I was wondering if you know the name of the rims on that car cause i just bought the same rims and I'm trying to find the caps for them. Thanks

I have a 91 grand Marquis with a 5.0 is my engine the same as the mustang or is it d tuned

I had an LX with a luggage rack on the trunk.Still 5.0, 5 speed, posi rear.

My favorite fox body mustang years where the 79-86. Love the 4 eyed versions. I currently own a 85 gt hatchback which did not have all the extra skirtings the 87-93 had.

so there is no difference between the notchback and the gt even when it comes how ones shaped different than the other in the back in terms of any sort of speed or handling advantages? also does one weigh more than the other or do they both weigh roughly the same?

Love the notchback. My 89 LX 5.0 coupe I bought new in 89 (not a police package) with power windows, locks and air conditioning weighs in at 2961 stock so the ssp is more likely less than that. GTs with all the fancy bits were as much as 400 lbs heavier actually making them slower than an LX. Especially a notchback. By the way I still have the 89 after almost 30 years.

I’m curious to what I had, in 1985 I bought a mustang GT “IROC SLAYER” it was a sticker on each side of the hood on the ridge line. I bought it new from the Ford dealership and owned it from 85-94. In all those years I never saw another one of those, so was it something the dealer did or what. Btw the emblem was not on top of the paint but underneath the clear coat.

What was the weight difference of a notch back vs a LX hatchback vs a GT with all the trim? Just curious...

I worked at a large ford dealer in Orlando that sold these SSPs to the FHP. Every one I saw had the silicone hoses. I think it was in 93 when Ford screwed up and assembled many of the cars with standard hose clamps. The silicone hoses need a special clamp that won't cut the softer hose when you tighten it down. We had to replace the clamps on all the cars before they could be delivered. All FHP cars were 5 spd and came from Ford already painted black and yellow. There were also some that were unmarked in dark gray paint and a maybe few other colors? Some local departments had autos. The Mustang was the primary patrol car at the time. Almost every trooper drove one, but they also had to have some Crown Vics for transporting anyone they arrested. The back seat of the Mustang had little room to start with and had a rack in it to hold paper file folders and their smokey the bear hat. The Volusia County FHP troop still may have a mint 93 Mustang they use for parades and events along with a 350 Camaro. They also had some 5.0 Fox LTDs in the '80's. In later years they had a few Mercury Marauders that were slightly modified. A local dept. had a 95 Mustang GTS 5.0 in black as an unmarked car, though there was no longer a police package then.

Awesome video!

I love the Fairmont wagons with all the Mustang go-fast parts.

I have a 1985 gt..my question is ?is there any reason other then putting on bigger tires..why do people take off the second rear shock...ive only seen 1 with the second shock..i dont even know what its called..

My brother had a 80 lx he away said because it lighter it was faster then a gt? Also did police interceptor have a larger radiator?.