Whip City Wrencher - Fram Oil Filter Old And New Comparison - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-C4F6D5KGAeA.html Amalie Manufacturer - www.amalie.com/About-Us Some people say ConocoPhillips is who makes FRAM oil but on the contrary that's not necessarily true The Carquest containers look identical to the Fram ones and after doing some research today and calling up Amaile they did specifically say they are the manufacturer for the FRAM oil that you see at the parts stores Now ConocoPhillips may make some form of their oil somewhere else I don't know but the people I spoke to today at Amaile said they make the oil that the part stores carry for fram additivehelp.com/news/fram-now-makes-oil-or-so-they-would-have-you-believe/ 1800 - 368 - 1274 - Amaile Oil Manufacturing 1800 - 890 - 2075 - Fram Corporate
Whats crazy is STP is alamie in most regions and STP filters are mostly Champ Its all brand licensing And the current majority of motorcraft is phillips 66 I have a titanium video discetion with 20k plus miles .....
Good to know it's an improvement I'm tired of trying to convince people FRAM is more than fine with regular maintenance intervals I work with a guy who swears FRAM filters are garbage based on some obscure test he won't elaborate on that I suspect to be biased and outdated. He runs WIX XP filters and Valvoline full synthetic but he goes 4 or 5+ months between oil changes he just waits to hit 3K and then changes it. He short cycles it hard too, half a mile to and from work twice a day.
called the amaile oil line... turns out to be a sales pitch for a med. alert bracelet... called fram corp. the tech line... the guy i talked to had NO CLUE what i was talking about... he says the who ever makes the oil bought the fram name to put on the can's cant tell me even who it is... just that THEY bought the right's to put there name on the jug's... inless i did some thing wrong...if i did pls. point me in the right direction... the reason i want to know is i use only mobil 1 oil and filters... IF the FRAM OIL AND FRAM FILTERS are better then id like to see the proof ...ya know..see what you are seeing...if it is true than ill switch out to fram..cuz i have my truck and wife's car due for oil change soon..... please and thank you!!!
80 to 90 percent of engine wear occurs at startup. The flow rate of Fram filters is lower because of the increased media to get the 20 microns. 25 microns is about the size of a white blood cell. I'll take high flow rate and a good 30 micron filter any day over low flow rate and smaller microns.
I was a Mobil 1 fan for decades just because they are most consistent with quality, all the youtube filter cuters would usually mark it as one of the top filters even if they are probably better filters out there, but overall mobile 1 would be on top, that said I don't mind using something other than Mobil 1 if it shows better performance for a couple dollars more. A word of caution however with this new Fram
On a 2019 VW Golf R Wolfsburg edition, I put in a Fram Tough Guard oil filter lol. It had the MANN, but the Tough Guard just plain looks comparable? Put in Mobil 1 0W-30 ESP....and you know what? I don't like it. It's burning it with only 15 miles on that oil, I swear. Level went way down, and I made SURE it wasn't from the cartridge filter soaking it up. No. It's burning it. Now, I want to try some regular API Valvoline 5W-30 synthetic Extended Protection with Fram's Ultra synthetic or Purolator Boss before MI winter hits. I'm just not impressed with Euro oil. I realize 0W has more VII's, but ESP is supposed to be liquid gold, oil of the gods. It isn’t. The Valvoline would introduce Moly and boron that engine has never seen before.
I've used the ford motorcraft and mobil 1 filters for a long time and avoided fram because of the reputation of the "orange can of death". No more. I'm using the fram ultra synthetic from now on.
Champion Labs make Mobil 1 and K&N filters. They also make other brands. Pretty much any filter designed for synthetic oil will be OK. Personal preference aside, I follow the severe service mileage suggestions. The Boss is correct in saying that extended oil change intervals do harm, especially on boosted applications.
Filters aren't designed for synthetic oil. The name "synthetic oil filter" simply means the filter uses synthetic filtration media. Paper, celluouse, and composit filtration medias, are fine to use with synthetic oil.
@@markmills344 Hey Mark. I use Wix XP filters for my Dodge 1500. Says right on the box "Designed for use with full synthetic oils." That's what I was referring to.
The Fram PH (orange can) was bad many years ago, but over the last 10 years on BITOG there have been only a few that have looked bad after an extended OCI, but none have "come apart" like many seem to still think. There have been way more Purolators and Motorcraft oil filters that have torn media posted on BITOG than Fram orange cans. And the Fram PH has an efficiency of 95% @ 20u, which is pretty good efficiency, and it has a silicone ADBV. Many PH filters cut open and posted after 5000 - 8000 miles of use that look fine. The "orange can of death" will never die, even though there's no real problem with it these days.
I don't really go on Bob is the oil guy because there's a lot of people on there that just like to talk s*** and there's a lot of people on there that have a bias and they're not fair and neutral when they talk about things so it's kind of a s*** site sometimes to deal with
I have 406k on my 2011 expedition El king ranch. Nothing but fram ultras and Pennzoil ultra platinum 5W20 & 0W20. You can eat off the inside of my 5.4 Triton. Runs the same as the day it drove off lot with 2.1 miles. Been a big believer in Pennzoil gas to liquid technology since it's inception. Fram ultras are great filters! Great channel, I'm a numbers guy as well and numbers do not lie!
The thread at Bob is the Oil guy is: Would you all like to see ISO 4548-12 Oil Filter Lab Testing Comparison, Efficiency & Capacity, Pressure vs Flow, Bubble Point, and Burst? Ascent Filtration Testing tests the old version Fram Ultra (with the metal screen) with outstanding efficiency results.
I was just wondering the other day who was making the motor oil for Fram. Now I know. Thanks Ford Boss! Also, I have to say from personal experience and I have been changing oil since I was a kid and I’m 52 years old. I also worked on cars and trucks for a living for 17 years and I’ve NEVER had a Fram oil filter cause engine problems or damage on anything I owned or anything I put one on. The KEY IS TO CHANGE THEM REGULARLY. I think any good mechanic will agree with me.
I have used the orange can since 2004 on my 5.3 Silverado. I have always changed the oil between 3 and 4,000 miles with conventional. After 110,000 miles I have been using the fram silver can. I will not feel comfortable changing to another brand after having so much success with fram. I have always used Castrol 530 conventional until it was no longer made then moved on to 5:30 synthetic blend. Never had an issue with the engine and it is very silent can hardly hear it when it is on. I now change the oil between 5 and 6,000 MI considering I'm using synthetic blend. After inspecting the oil it looked like it still had a good two or three thousand miles of life left on it. I have never added any fuel or oil additives in the vehicle. But I mostly use medium and premium grade gasoline tier one to keep the fuel lines clean.
The sad part about all this is at 99% efficient the Mobil 1 extended performance filter can only filter 30 micron The Fram Ultra and titanium bolts filter at 99% 20 micron I think it's pretty clean cut-and-dry where the better filter is
As to oil, blenders will make/blend/mix an oil at what ever quality the buyer wants. Valvoline makes NAPA oil; Gold Seal makes Quicksilver oil, Mobil and Citgo blend for various house brands of oil.
Lot of people forget fram has been around longer than all of them. As long as you change your oil out when you're supposed to it doesn't generally matter what filter you run.
I'm not thrilled about the 'cardboard' substrate they use instead of the metal endcaps everyone else uses, and even Fram themselves use on their higher end filters. I read their reasoning on their site (it bonds better then the metal), which may be true BUT they when don't they use it for their higher end filters? Besides that, on these filter taredown videos I have always noticed the fram seems to be somewhat sloppy with it's adhesive compared to the rest. Sometimes the end caps are somewhat off center. Now perhaps that means nothing but it just seems to indicate that quality is not their strong suit. So yes they are around forever but I just don't like what I see in their orange line of filters. There higher end ones are much better though the amount of adhesive seems a bit messy, so again, it does make me think about their quality of workmanship.
The oil filter is not very important once past break in. Very little contamination in an engine unless someone uses a dirty funnel or something like that.
Check out their new endurance filter! Made by championin the US, still 99% @ 20 micron with more flow. Pretty much identical to. Amsoil and royal purple made by champion also!
Nobody said it has better oil flow what we said was it actually cleans better they've already proven this so if you've got a vehicle that is not a performance vehicle and you're looking for something to make sure your engine stays clean these are the filters to use
I am using Fram XG 10060 ultra synthetic in my 2019 Ram.this filter is much better then the FCA put in on the production line,the Fram XG series are one of the best oil filters in the market today,and with the new design is even better.
Rick, my perspective goes back to 1964. At 17 I used Fram filters and Havoline 10-40. Everyone back then said I was a fool, the filters were shit and the Texaco oil was shit..yada, yada, yada. I changed oil back the every 2k. Just regular college kid driving. NEVER ONCE HAD AN ISSUE, EVER on my engines. Now I know oil in newer cars are more critical than in the days of the SBC. I have a 20 year old Mercury and I use synthetic and motorcraft filter. I am too gimped up at 74 years so I hire the job out. I would drive this car anywhere. Of course I take excellent care. I have even been told by fan boys that motorcraft filters are crap. Yeah right.... Did you ever notice all these so called experts are not engineers? I change every 3k, because that is 6 months use. Yeah I could go 5k, but oil is cheap vs engines. This car will outlast me.
Anecdotal, but I did an oil change a week ago on my Town Car and replaced a Mobil 1 210A with a Fram XG-2 (both Wal-Mart purchases). I notice at warm, stoplight idle, I'm getting about 4 to 8 lbs. higher oil pressure with the Fram (28 lbs. at about 45 to 55 degrees Fahrenheit ambient outside vs. 22 to 25 with the Mobil 1 - have an aftermarket VDO gauge set up). I'm running Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w-20 high mileage. Again, this isn't scientific, but my theory is that the denser filter media is creating a greater back pressure of oil in the engine while its running, which results in a higher pressure through the valve train - a good thing. I agree the Mobil 1 is a terrific filter, but I'm also really impressed by the XG-2. The analysis of the filter media is spot on too. If folks watch your earlier autopsy of the Purolator Boss, the filter media was a denser synthetic media. Mobil 1 uses a lighter cellulose/hybrid. Every other aspect of the Mobil 1 and the Boss are identical (anti-drain back valve, relief, canister thickness..). Difference is filter media. I agree with your analysis, great channel (and thank you for your service)
Fram Ultra is the best oil filter for the money. I've used Fram Ultra filters on all four of my Fords for at least fifteen years. Quality control have been spot on.
I JUST WANT THE BEST POSSIBLE FILTERS OIL 🛢 GAS ⛽️ ECT FOR MY CAR, I BOUGHT THE FRAM SYNTHETIC OIL FILTER YESTERDAY FOR MY UPCOMING OIL CHANGE, I ALWAYS BOUGHT FRAM FILTERS 🫖
I usually use Wix XP oil filters as a preference. However, I decided to try the Walmart Supertech oil filter and found it does the same thing as the Wix XP and the Mobile One filters for less the price.
Do you know that the Wix filter filters at 35 Micron at 99% efficiency Wux xp 99% 21 - 23 microns But the Fram Ultra and titanium filter at 99% 20 micron
Excellent video… if you had to pick one filter to use for a 5.0 F150, between the Motorcraft, Mobil 1 EP, Fram Ultra, which would it be? I know you don’t recommend extended oil drain intervals, but for someone who does push it a bit, which of them do you recommend? And between the standard Motorcraft and the larger one you can get, is there really much difference in capacity/efficiency? Would you go to the larger filter in any of those brands? Pros/cons? Thank you very much. Maybe you could make a video about the pros and cons of going to a larger filter (where possible).
I used to run a purolator filter then I switched to the motorcraft fl1a filter. Yes I know it's the same thing, but the motorcraft filter looks better on the side of the engine.
Yeah there's nothing wrong with those but the point behind this video is the Fram Ultra and titanium filter are probably arguably the best filters on the market Not attacking just conversing with you because I know youll understand what I'm saying better than most The Fram Ultra filter filters at 99% efficiency at 20 microns the Mobil 1 extended performance filter filters at 99% efficiency 30 microns Everybody swore by mobile one and how much better it is until somebody brought facts to the table and hurt their feelings
Tribalism and bad press makes it easy to misinform people. Like people still think there are issues with pennzoil because of what happened decades ago.
I’ve watched several videos about the Fram Ultra filter, and others . I think the Fram Ultra has one of the best filter media’s for the value. I still would pick a Purelator Boss over the Fram. But all have their pros an cons. The key is to change your oil, and filter regularly.
I've used 2 Fram Ultras in my 2008 Acura TL 217K miles, using full synthetic oil. The current one has been in for 10,000 miles, 3000 miles longer than the OEM change frequency. The oil looks dark amber and not graphite gray like many times before. Used Purolator and other 'higher quality' filters before, had not used FRAM for 20+ years! I'm gonna stick with the Ultras cuz I'm impressed. Will probly stick with 7000 mile change intervals just for convenience.
My favorite part of your video is the micron filtering chart. Finding out the size of the micron filtration of oil filters can be difficult to lock down.
The purolatorboss filters at 25 microns where is Fram filters at 20 microns It's kind of a choice thing they're both really good but the Fram does filter a little better
My local shop buys bulk oil from FS and filters from Napa. I think most shops use some sort of bulk oil. How do these oils and filters compare to “name” brands? Good job regardless your preaching the truth about this stuff.
Thank you for the comprehensive report regarding Fram's newest filter addition and how it relates to the existing products in the industry. Your approach is much more thorough and based on your knowledge and education, which is what separates you from the others. Nice work!
I think people don't always realize that if Fram filters were that bad, then Fram would likely have many claims and or lawsuits for damaged engines. It is likely that people who bash the orange can Fram filter may have used the filter for a longer interval than what it was intended for.
Yeah "lets put the orange can of death on the car, cheapest conventional oil, 20k miles easy." later followed by "What has Fram done to my motor?!?!?!" A term often used in marketing isn't who can make the best product, it's who can make the best product at a certain price point. In other words anyone can produce an amazing product, the question is will folks be willing to pay for it. The goal with marketing is to be as competitive as possible, you do that by either being the cheapest, or you make the best possible product at a few different price points.
Walmart and Amazon have Motorcraft filters cheap. I live in Michigan and the Meijer stores are competitive to those two too. RockAuto is great but I try to buy lots from them at a time as their shipping prices are high.
Been running Fram Ultra Synthetic for 2 oil changes (2000mi each, due to “spirited” driving) and no complaints. Have cut the filters and things checked out, great filter for a budget
Well, I've got 3 BOSS filters lined up for future changes as the supply system may get worse. So I shall pick up Ultra Fram in the future when shopping. Currently using 5w 20w Castrol Edge synthetic works great in my 350 GM stuff. Have used the Pennzoil synthetic with good results and of course Amsoil.
@@FordBossMe hey Boss- I love the boss filter too, but after reading that study from Bob is the Oil Guy, I felt a bit concerned because it wasn’t filtering as well as Purolator claims. Any thoughts on that? I bought 6 boss filters recently as part of a bulk sale and I’m feeling a little regret.
Yay, oil filter time. I've started using Fram Ultra synthetic in my aunts vehicle. I would use it on mine but mine takes a cartridge and Fram doesn't carry it
No just know that friend Orange Canada death on my cousin 327 and did the same thing on my 383 and it sucked together because it had a high pressure pump in it not a high volume pump there is a difference just an M55A pump from the 69 stop 328 ed it sucked the center of the freaking crush like a freaking soda can in your hand no oil floated through that
Just got done watching the video you recommended on the Fram Ultra vs the Amsoil. I have to say I used to use the orange can back in the '80s and early 90's with no issues. Since then I switched over to Purolator and then to the OEM filters. I'm going to start checking out the Fram Ultra for my next change.
I like WIX filters. I saw a video on Project Farm RU-vid channel. His testing is insane! I even changed my oil to Pennzoil from mobile 1 after his review. 07 Colorado I4 with 130k miles runs perfect. I change my oil every 4k. I plan on seeing just how long my truck can go before total failure. I'm hoping for 200k -280k. 🤞
The Fram Ultra filter and the titanium filter better than any of the name brand filters on the market at 99% efficiency 20 Micron rating and at 93% efficiency 15 Micron rating
Thanks, interestingly need your input!, Anyways, I run MOB1 5W-30 , here in Helena Valley, MT @ 3-5,000: 07 CANYON 4 CYL@141,000 miles ::: * just switched OCTOBER 2021, to ***BOSS OIL Filter ( in both **Vehicles), with OEM AIR Filters,! ANYWAYS, my first 110,000 miles in Indiana with 2007 Canyon were **VALVOLINE SYN 5W-30 mostly at a Friends VALVOLINE QUIKlube & their Brand Filters ,but **switched ** ( not recommended), **10w-30 at 90,000 miles & . , but , did switched back to 5 W-30 MOB1 @ these MONTANA , -31 ZERO, WINTER time here….. I seen good Reports, ( WHIP, other RU-vid,here, etc on BOSS filters)… Interestingly, and as an aside: used the ***K& N HI PERF *Air some 12 years in CANYON ( no MASS AIR Flow Sensor, or discernible engine issues), and 50,000 miles in JOURNEY 2015 4 CYL, before back to OEM air Filters in High DUST AREA here, the CANYON 4 CYL “MAY” have gotten better MILES PER GALLON), … THOUGH ACTUALLY more comfortable getting a chance on more “DUST FILTERED OUT…” Anyways, ……07 CANYON , especially: AND 2015 Journey@90,000 miles, PURRING
Great video.:) I've run Fram Ultra for years on my Triton V10, Duratec, Ecoboost and have never had an issue. I cut them on every change and they are in great shape.
Wow, I feel like I got a personalized response to my questions from earlier. I am now convinced that the Fram ultra is the best bang for your buck, especially when the Motorcraft is unavailable at the local Wally. I'm definitely not a fan boy of Mobil or any other filter brand. I have only used Motorcraft 820s because they were 4 bucks but now they are getting very hard to find and have been out of stock at the last few times I went in to Walmart. Out of all the champ labs products, the Ultra is the value 👑. Thank you for the follow up and filter investigation!!! You the man!
Great video.. Even the cheapest filter and oil at 3,000-4,000 miles is better than going 20,000+ miles on the $$$ oil/filters, in my opinion... I just drove a coworker's 12 F150(to get our pizzas) with the 5.0 V8 and 118,000 miles and the dash was warning for an "oil change required" and according to the sticker he was over by 9,000 miles.. he told me, "oil changes are so expensive, so I go 20,000 miles now, this new oil is proven to last and save you big $$"... Yes, I feel sorry for that engine...
I'll give it a go on my next oil change. I appreciate what you do. Key is always maintenance regularly. Regular interval changes .. that being said better products HELP tremendously in adding to longevity of the vehicle. Thank you for your time.
Also I can appreciate that you share your proof of due diligence. And don't just say the oem is the end all be all for filters and or ford oil.. that you aren't afraid to say that there are better products . Not that you are bashing not the point but sharing with people your experience that have learned.
2:59 Rich, on that note just not with motor oil, I used to work for Prestone (through an agency.) Near the end of my temporary assignment (Forklift Operator,) They had began making Fram antifreeze. So, it really is true, that Walmart brand and Fram, they are made side-by-side with the Prestone. I can't imagine how slight the differences would be, if any. Truth!
Waiting on a new F150, 3.5 EB, and I've been researching the best maintenance approaches to take care of it when I do get it. This is very helpful info. I've heard so many good/bad things about the 3.5, but I've typically just done most of my own maintenance on my rigs and they seem to last a long time.
Funny, many of these internet trolls that swear off the basic model oil filters that have “cardboard” end caps swear by oem filters that have the Same thing 😆 only a few companies make filters, just like oil.
I honestly have always used mobile 1. But because of all the videos and doing my own homework I have realized that what I've been using is good however there is better. I was loyal to mobile 1. And the bottom line is as long as you change your oil and filter in a reasonable milage your good. I want mine vehicle to last so I change my fluids on time!
For me, the significant increase in filter media more than makes up for the removal of the mesh backing. I still think the Purolator Boss is a better filter, but the Fram Ultra is pretty good as well.
Thanks for the information about the new fram oil filters . I typically use wix , but I may try the new stuff from fram on my next oil change . ( edit , they don't make one to fit my vehicle , bummer )
Very happy with what I've seen from personal use with fram ultra the last few years. This is great news and perhaps why I've noticed oil looks cleaner on dipstick the last 2 oil changes.... 🤔
I like Premium Guard for now and something is going on there is a shortage of coil springs I watch filter videos now and the ones that always had coil springs now have leaf springs and I don’t know why cutting costs or what.
So actually just got ahold of the technical team and they said that's not the correct information the ultra synthetic is not going anywhere you just have to find a different location to pick it up
Hey I have an off topic question about ford techs. Why is it so difficult to talk directly to the techs. I do most of my own work but on the few times I’ve tried to go, it’s been a little annoying. It always feels like I’m playing telephone and hoping the person at the service desks conveys what I need. For example, I asked them to do a suspension and safety inspection and sign a paper for a track day. It said any certified tech can sign off on it after inspection but the tech apparently didn’t feel comfortable. Initially, I thought he was being lazy and didn’t want to do the 24 point inspection they advertise as a courtesy. But, I think he misunderstood what the sheet was saying and was afraid of liability or something. Also, I was willing to pay hourly if needed but I got the impression they didn’t want to do it. I still don’t know why and when I asked for documentation of the courtesy inspection, I got no actual info. Any thoughts?
Sometimes the dealership is worried about the text not handling the customers with kid gloves and maybe saying something disrespectful most of the time it's because a lot of technicians don't like talking a customer but there's a handful of us that really do actually more than a handful but the dealership plays it as it's a safety policy security policy so nothing gets out of control
Thanks for all your work in getting the information out to us , we could never do this on our own . For now I will stay with the Ford racing filter ( just ordered 3 more ) for use on my 4 Ford vehicles .
I used the fram ultra before with no problems, it is a good filter. Lately i have been using the purolator boss filter, dont know if it makes a difference, but as long as my car is running good and engine is clean, im good lol
When I bought my car is came with a mobil one filter. Was probably fine, I simply preferred wix or motorcraft. May try fram though! Check your email when you have a chance btw about my leaking focus!😄
Question fordbossme, I just recently switched from motorcraft to fram ultra synthetic filters for my 2018 3.5L f150, I seen the bottom of the fram ultra had some moisture in it, ive seen this in some other videos as well. Should that be cause for concern in your professional opinion? Thank you!!
I have no allegiance to any one manufacture of oil filter, I've used FRAM, Mobile, and Purlator in the past. I usually buy what is reasonably cheap (not necessarily THE cheapest), change my oil every 5K (I use synthetic across the board) and have never had any problems. I find these fanboy wars to be as amusing as the video game console wars I see go on between Playstation, Micro$oft and Nintendo.
Indeed, people will find a reason to attack for whatever reason. It seems that you get a group of people together; say more than 10; things happen. I've been messing with computers for decades and still see this behavior. It usually resorts to nothing more than mudslinging in a short time and really accomplishes nothing. It also seems (to me) that allot of people like to take their favorite person's account of something as truth, rather than researching it on their own.
I just bought my first fran ultra synthetic filter and I can’t wait to use it because I’m getting rid of the Honda OEM piece of shit, paper end caps it’s designed exactly like the Fram orange can the blue Honda filters are garbage, and I found a place online selling me premium Honda full synthetic oil for $10 a quart less than Amazon same bottle same everything you just have to look around. I have a Briggs & Stratton twin cylinder opposed engine on my lawnmower they say every 50 to 100 hours change the oil , For a quart and a half of oil I change it every five or six hours. Same with my car they say 7500 to 10,000 I change it at 5000 so even if I use the cheaper oil the way I change it so frequently it will always be clean anyway my brother you’ll be good now
