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Framing Frame rush challenge: worst vault, all loot, ECMs only 

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Framing Frame is an iconic stealth heist, very representative of stealth in PAYDAY 2, and often considered to be at the top of the sneaky heists. However, what if you decide to stealth it in the opposite way of what was intended? Guns blazing from the start, rushing at full speed. In order to handicap ourselvs, we won't use any Pocket ECMs, so our total rush time goes down from 6 to 4 minutes. Additionally, we also need to get all the loot. Is such a challenge feasible, if you get the worst possible vault spawn...?
➽ TIME STAMPS:
0:00 → The classic stealth heist, and the challenge.
1:01 → Attempting the rush.
5:02 → What happens if you get the farthest vault spawn?
8:59 → End screen!
➽ STEAM GROUP? I've created a Steam group for subscribers, with the objective of bringing together heisters who are informed about the strategies showcased in this channel. This should make it easier to find crews for coordinated ECM rushing, stealth lobbies, achievement runs, and many other strategies which I've been sharing! If you're interested, here's the link: steamcommunity.com/groups/Mar...
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Special thanks to Bob, Galaxy, and Kyro, for optimizing their device pathing to make the rush faster! Also thanks to Helmut who wanted to participate as well but we couldn't find a convenient time...
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Recorded with: GeForce Experience
Edited with: Vegas Pro 12.0
Game version: Nov 2nd, 2022 patch (Update 230)

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@Sarghe420
@Sarghe420 Год назад
The worst part of this heist has to be: “So the plan is, go i-“ *restart* “So the plan is, go i-“. when playing solo.
@realobamagaming
@realobamagaming Год назад
after 69 restarts: so the plan is, i fail and restart the heist again *quits game for one day and gets back later the next day to repeat the same process*
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Haha I can imagine Bain looping that over and over! Still a really funn heist though :p I would play it almost any day!
@VanessaMagick
@VanessaMagick Год назад
You guys are making me look VERY SMART
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
@@VanessaMagick Bain being humble, always nice to see :p
@alexander.0001
@alexander.0001 Год назад
Hey Marc, I just want to say that because of your Framing Frame guide, I am now helping pubs complete it with ease, I learned every suggested trip mine and very often pubs using the trip mines I place manage to finish the heist in just one attempt
@tommyfeng8744
@tommyfeng8744 Год назад
Same, it's so much easier when I can keep track of the guards at all times!
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
That's great to hear alexander, thank you! :D Glad the trip mine spots are being helpful, and even helping heisters in other lobbies! That's very nice :)
@alexander.0001
@alexander.0001 Год назад
@@Marcmb forgot to say thanks in the comment above, so I'll say it here, thanks 🙂
@timmyp7
@timmyp7 Год назад
4:14 The cheeky "Host advantage" is amazing
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Haha thanks timmy! Glad you liked that detail :) Among ourselves we always like to joke about it, when the host gets the undeniable ping advantage in such situations :p
@eliasdex1236
@eliasdex1236 Год назад
Dallas: 1:07 **throws molotov** "Sit on this!" Second wind enjoyers: *"LET'S GO!"*
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
I will sit on this GLADLY! :D
@jakobcoper6744
@jakobcoper6744 Год назад
Second wind is just a bonus there, that molotov is meant to damage your health for yakuza
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
@@jakobcoper6744 That is exactly right yup :) Although that Second Wind is indeed _sweet_ as well!
@peterwilliams1724
@peterwilliams1724 Год назад
I never knew that Framing Frame had a second inspector, let alone the fact that an UNKILLABLE inspector even exists in the game
@renanolll
@renanolll Год назад
i got so many "ECM rush" in the end of the heist ruinned because someone tried to kill him...
@javgarag
@javgarag Год назад
Overkill can make any NPC unkillable with the “Invulnerable” element maps have; that’s why NPCs such as Bain or Hoxton are unkillable too!
@Cucumber_Dragon
@Cucumber_Dragon Год назад
I never knew that too! Until I tried to cheese it with silent assassin...
@nguyenvanquang876
@nguyenvanquang876 Год назад
Every month there's a guy making a Reddit post asking "Why is there an immortal guard on Framing Frame" making a fool of themselves.
@mauer1
@mauer1 Год назад
@@nguyenvanquang876 Because everyone knows he is using silent assassin?
@Sulidaire
@Sulidaire Год назад
So for my DSOD mask, I did most of the heists solo. This was maybe 6 months after I picked up the game seriously again after a 4 year hiatus. Day 3 took an entire day of restarts. Truly truly a Payday classic.
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Haha that's exactly it Sulidaire! The pain and the struggle is one of the big reasons why we remember it as a classic. Especially after such a long hiatus, it's understandable that it took so many restarts :D
@no1normal750
@no1normal750 Год назад
never ceases to amaze me, this is cooler to watch than DSOD solos
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Thanks a lot No1! Very kind words, much appreciated :)
@kitandrei
@kitandrei Год назад
Like a well oiled machine, very cool!
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Thank you very much kitandrei! Glad you liked it :D
@ChaosYetChaos
@ChaosYetChaos Год назад
The Immortal guard will only spawn if you use your last pager (4/4). He can be very annoying as he can shoot you and you will perish, causing another teammate to revive you and maybe him dying as well. You can get around this by simply dominating him fast enough or just alerting him so fast when he spawns he cant do harm to any of your team. Guess overkill decided to try and stop the modders and cheaters. Also 4:15 "Host advantage"
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Actually a very important distinction - upon using 4 pagers, the inspector that comes is NOT immortal. He can be killed as any regular guard, and also dominated. If you kill _that one in particular,_ then the 2nd inspector is called, and that one is completely immortal! (but still can be dominated) Also, host advantage OP :p glad you liked that detail chaos!
@VanquishR
@VanquishR Год назад
That was beautifully executed. Well done to you and your crew :)
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Thank you very much Sky! Glad you liked the execution :D
@Anesidora7
@Anesidora7 Год назад
Ah... My favorive non-single day heist. Enjoyed to watch.
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Thank you very much Anesidora! Glad you liked it :D
@GalaxyPixelZ
@GalaxyPixelZ Год назад
you did me dirty with the 4:15 host advantage, clearly an unfair advantage 😂
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
:D Glad you liked that detail Galaxy! Host adv always OP :p
@hackersource4634
@hackersource4634 Год назад
I used Framing Frame Day 3 to get poison kills for the Viper Grenades
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Good choice Source! Just like No Mercy, the heist has many tight corridors and lots of spawns. Personally I used Dragon Heist, because I had another loud achievement that I needed there :D
@wewserlethaldude9
@wewserlethaldude9 Год назад
>ECMs only >Bob deploys an Ammo Bag cheating!!1!1!1
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Haha technically true! And even Kyro and Galaxy took some ammo from the bag while waiting in front of the vault, so all 3 disqualified! :D
@matthias4748
@matthias4748 Год назад
Love the way you shot the monitors out at 1:45, haha
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Haha glad you liked that getdabigoof! I always find it funny to hack a computer even without the screens :p
@InemuriOkami
@InemuriOkami Год назад
You guys never cease to amaze! Framing Frame is actually my favorite stealth heist, so seeing it be obliterated by ECM Rushing is so fascinating to me! Keep up the great work!
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Thanks so much Okami! Glad you liked the rush, especially of your favorite stealth heist :D That was very nice to read! I'll do my best to keep it up :)
@jange8782
@jange8782 Год назад
Splendid run! What an amazing crew :D
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Thank you very much Jang! Glad you liked it :)
@titubeur978
@titubeur978 Год назад
As always, impressively well done guys. GG 👌
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Thank you very much Titubeur! GG indeed :)
@juankim4786
@juankim4786 Год назад
I didn't know there is second inspector in day 3 and I wonder why he is invincible.
@ChaosYetChaos
@ChaosYetChaos Год назад
to prevent the following 3 from completing the heist 1. Modders using mods like SA 2. Cheaters 3. ECM rushers
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Kinda funny that they made him invincible yup! He can still be dominated (within 1.5s of him becoming alerted), but he never takes damage. Probably for the reasons that *@chaosyetchaos* mentioned above.
@fotisvretos6049
@fotisvretos6049 Год назад
great work! wish i was there! i love framing frame
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Thanks tarramas! It would've been nice to have you in the rush :p If you ever wanna play a bit, just let us know :D
@lowkeystupidasf
@lowkeystupidasf Год назад
I remember my first time trying to do solo stealth on FF. I don't have a second monitor so I printed out (💀) the loot map from the wiki and just drew a line on it as i went around the map and crossed all the locations that items didn't spawn in💀💀
@javgarag
@javgarag Год назад
that actually sounds very fun
@GankAlpaca
@GankAlpaca Год назад
It's not ranked game or anything while you are having fun you are winning😃
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Ooooh that actually sounds like a REALLY FUN heisting experience! I wish the devs would release some harder heists, so that we would need some external tools (like pen and paper) to keep track of puzzles and complete difficult challenges :D
@Gloomffct
@Gloomffct Год назад
just insane coop play!
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Thank you very much Gloom! Glad you liked it :)
@seresrobertwoodoo2451
@seresrobertwoodoo2451 Год назад
The ptsd that i got from this map.... its finally been tamed... i can die in peace, thank you
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hahaha glad you liked the demonstration Seres! Indeed, we've all been through that experience with Framing Frame. Such an iconic stealth heist :D
@wraithgaming9528
@wraithgaming9528 Год назад
Framing frame took me like 5 hours on this map because i failed so many times and played solo . After that i decided to play on public and they was suffered as well lmao . Until i learn about trip mine placements and it is make my life easier ( until big bank ... )
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Haha I can see that happening Wraith, indeed :D Public lobbies of this heist are either incredibly smooth, or very very difficult. Glad the trip mine placements helped :D
@tongliaomacoutes
@tongliaomacoutes Год назад
amazing ecm rush!
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Thanks Antonio! Glad you liked it :)
@Sergeantnumnutz
@Sergeantnumnutz Год назад
Very interesting! I always knew that a classic 4ECM rush without PECM was possible since people used to do it pre-hacker back in the day, but I've never seen anyone do it with the "bad" vault spawn. Always seemed like it'd be a bit tight, but you guys had more than enough time to spare! Makes me wonder how many people have done it before now, because I feel the vast majority would just auto-restart when they see far vault haha.
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Thank you very much Sergeant! Glad you liked the planning and execution :) Indeed, considering the time we had to spare, I'm guessing a few other crews must have done the same in the past. But the numbers might be limited because, ever since the Hacker release, I assume that not many are handicapping themselves on purpose by not bringing Pocket ECMs :p
@sonymusicproducer8711
@sonymusicproducer8711 11 месяцев назад
I never forget hoxton revenge stealth experience
@Rob-zq6qv
@Rob-zq6qv Год назад
host advantage
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Haha good catch Rob! Not many saw that :p
@emred4653
@emred4653 9 месяцев назад
ı really hate this heist. Especially how after killing 4 guards game summons a new one
@Marcmb
@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад
Hey there emred! Luckily the summoned guard (inspector) only stays for about ~7 minutes, so it's not too bad... but the heist does have very polarizing opinions!
@rabidbadger5260
@rabidbadger5260 Год назад
Impressive
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Thank you very much Rabid! Glad you liked it :)
@nickkelley9139
@nickkelley9139 Год назад
Have you ever thought about doing Ultimate Loud Guides showing things like good places to bunker down during assaults and Cloaker spawn points?
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hey nick! I know a lot more about stealth than loud unfortunately... But at some point I thought about making short loud videos, explaining all the tricks I learnt on my way to the DSOD mask. Might make those during the next year, if there's time before PAYDAY3!
@v7xgaming
@v7xgaming Год назад
My favorite heist :)
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
One of my favorites as well :D Lately I mostly enjoy rushing the whole thing with armor included, trying to get as close as possible to the 1:00 completion time. Really really tricky, but so satisfying!
@ENKTDeeColon_and_randomnumbers
Man I wish me and my brother had such good friends for that
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
It's definitely quite an experience, DeeColon! If you would like to find a couple more heisters for this, feel free to join our Steam group, which is linked in the video description :p Completely optional though, of course!
@ENKTDeeColon_and_randomnumbers
@@Marcmb once I get the urge to heist again, I will consider it 👍🏻
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
@@ENKTDeeColon_and_randomnumbers :D Sounds good! The best way to play PAYDAY is to take frequent breaks, until you're in the mood for heisting again - because there are no other games that can beat this experience!
@jacksonsutrick1361
@jacksonsutrick1361 Год назад
Huh. Apparently my first Framing Frame run was a success on the worst vault spawn. I guess Very Hard is a blessing sometimes
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Nice, that is very good for the first completion! I guess that, if you don't know about the easier alternatives, you just assume that's the regular difficulty :D
@jacksonsutrick1361
@jacksonsutrick1361 Год назад
@Marcmb What makes it even more funny was that I only got the minimum paintings on day 1 (4) and spent half the time guessing when the phone was. How me and my Gruber Kurz didn't get caught is beyond me.
@unknownrace2778
@unknownrace2778 Год назад
nice
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Thanks UnknownRace!
@jonah20000
@jonah20000 Год назад
you should try ecm rushing a custom heist, like California heat
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
That could be an interesting concept, Local! As soon as I finish rushing all vanilla heists, I might look into that...
@tvgaming7846
@tvgaming7846 Год назад
Now i know why my first solo framing frame stealth run took so long I had the worst vault spawn but i still managed to barely make it out of there with gold
@Sheridanv1
@Sheridanv1 Год назад
lol running down from the computer all the time 😂
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
That's fantastic tvgaming! Most heisters would absolutely struggle and often fail, if they had that vault for their first run (especially with all gold). Very nice that you managed to pull through though! GG :D
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
@@Sheridanv1 It used to be really bad when the lasers would only stay off for ~6s as a solo player... thankfully it has been increased to 45s now, so there's always time :D
@tvgaming7846
@tvgaming7846 Год назад
@@Marcmb took me a little above an hour, that was well spent to be honest. Took some stress, close calls to make it through
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
@@tvgaming7846 Oh wow that must've been very stressful yeah! I remember ~10 years ago, the first time I completed Framing Frame with my crew, it took us 6 hours of constant restarting until we finally got it... Very nice memories :D
@mohamedadel-st6er
@mohamedadel-st6er Год назад
Do you guys have any idea why the laser turn off for ONLY TEN seconds and then comeback?! isn't it supposed to be fifty!
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hey mohamed! Are you playing on either an old version, or on console? Back in the day the lasers used to turn off for only a short time; but nowadays they turn off for a full 45s.
@Blucario90
@Blucario90 Год назад
Have you ever gotten the 1% ambush on day 2 after stealth day 1? If so, what did you do? Restart the heist maybe?
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hey Blucario! I've tried several times, always hoping that I would see it again after stealthing DAY1, but I've never seen it in years by now... I wonder if they removed the 1% chance because it was too unfair :(
@Merdjo1
@Merdjo1 Год назад
I got the far vault when i was doing the "Move all gold by zipline" for the secret, and since i dont got any friends that play payday i had to do it alone. Wich was boring af.
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
It's gonna be a lot slower yup compared to the other 2 vaults. Plus it'll often involve lots of unavoidable waiting with the last 2 guards roaming around, which can be very boring.
@MyUsersDark
@MyUsersDark Год назад
Something that caught my attention, there seems to be a cut at 3:30 and the chat doesn't match afterwards. May I ask what happened here? Nice video
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Very well spotted Dark! I was actually hoping that someone would notice it, because I really liked how the ingame timer and ECM timer both lined up perfectly, even though the 2 runs were different. While editing I really liked that fact, so I decided to set it up like that :D Even though it's quite noticeable because the gameplay itself has a bit of a jump at that point.
@satapon148
@satapon148 Год назад
is it possible yes from what I can remember someone told to start ecm a little bit later just to be safe and we don't even have second wind at that time. glad my memory can still serve me well. the 2nd inspertor I don't even knew that was a thing
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Definitely possible yup. Glad you liked the rush satapon! :D Second Wind helps a lot, allowing you to rush straight away with no worries. The second inspector is really cool when you run into him unexpectedly. I might make a dedicated video about him in the future :p
@dragonsfromdownunder4186
@dragonsfromdownunder4186 9 месяцев назад
Hey, how do you get the extra ui stuff like speed and emc timer. Is that pc only or can i do that on my xbox lol
@Marcmb
@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад
Hey Dragons! It's PC only sadly, it's done with mods. If you're on PC, check my modding video (in the description), but sadly it won't be possible on Xbox.
@HungTran-rc7dh
@HungTran-rc7dh Год назад
Hi Marc. Can u do some Loud DS/OD guide. Up to now i am very scare to play DW loud :v
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hey Hưng! In the future I might make some Loud DSOD guides, I do have some plans to make brief videos about everything I learnt while getting my DSOD mask... However, I first want to finish all my videos about stealth, since I know a lot more about this! Until then, you can actually check out KevKild for loud DSOD heist guides: he has tips for all of them!
@HungTran-rc7dh
@HungTran-rc7dh Год назад
I will wait for your video, and also check for KevKild video.
@Virtualsinner
@Virtualsinner 10 месяцев назад
It's kinda bonkers to me that the game doesn't warn you without Bain specifically saying that the lasers turn on after awhile. Almost lost my solo run because of the furthest fault spawn a n d the lasers.
@noiu_is_here
@noiu_is_here Год назад
Okay, how do I have almost 500 hours in this game, and I never knew about this bag vent shortcut?
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Bwoah! It's not used in solo very often (because of the risk), but it's excellent in co-op. Glad I could introduce you to the vent shortcut :D
@spkoftdvl
@spkoftdvl Год назад
My favorite way to move the bags when the vault spawns in the front is to move them to the glass ceiling and break it so they land in front of the vault. Yes, the shortcut can be fast but not so epic (?). Amazing video Marc! Do the Murky Station and Scarface ECM Rush pls :D
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Aah for sure one of the best approaches GVZ! I like doing that, especially when playing duo / solo. Stack all 8 bags there, wait until no one's nearby, and then break the glass. Quickly move all 8 cokes into position, and ECM the ending if you get caught by a guard entering the room! (also Murky soon!)
@theyoutubefan9209
@theyoutubefan9209 Год назад
Hey marcmb how come you use the locomotive and not the judge as the judge does more damage?
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hey youtubefan! Very good question, especially considering my latest video about damage in stealth. I could certainly just use the Judge, but I like the Locomotive so much (visually) that I instead spend a bunch of skill points on Berserker ACE and Frenzy to increase my damage, which makes the Locomotive viable. It's not too bad because these are essential skills for a saw build anyway, so it works out :D
@creamjuicer5322
@creamjuicer5322 Год назад
Love it so much
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Thank you very much, creamjuicer! :D
@mauer1
@mauer1 Год назад
Well tbf day 1 is basically another heist day 2 is usually a bag carry simulator so day 3 is the unique one
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
That's exactly right Mauer! Maybe in the future I'll do a short video about ECM Rushing Art Gallery, but when I think of Framing Frame rushing, it's mostly DAY3! :D
@mauer1
@mauer1 Год назад
@@Marcmb you basically have an 1p ecm rush on the full guide inpersonal experiance it is not hard to send more players in. only bad if there is one player trapped inside because someone messed it up
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
@@mauer1 That is exactly right yup. It's so easy to rush even solo, that it didn't make sense to include DAY1 in a "challenge" video :D Glad you agree as well!
@genzu6388
@genzu6388 Год назад
very nice run, but surely you can take the last 3-4 bags on your backs? they still count as secured and give you a faster xp/min rate. or am i missing something? do bags secured on your back not count towards xp objectives? I must be missing something...
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hey Genzu! Very good question, and basically you came up with the answer yourself :) Bags taken to the escape while carried on your back count for MONEY, but not for XP. Thus for any route focused on XP farming, you want to always secure the loot rather than carrying it on your back. Additionally, some bags without money value (like the Old Wine on this heist) can be carried to the escape so they count for money, but that's a minor thing.
@genzu6388
@genzu6388 Год назад
@@Marcmb thank you for this information, here I was (in casual gameplay) skipping out on the xp from the last 4 bags of coke on watchdogs by always securing them on my and the AIs backs... Looking forward to your next video!!
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
@@genzu6388 Understandable yup! Watchdogs is a heist where I commonly see this because it takes so long to wait for the boat to come back a 3rd time... But yup definitely wait for the actual drop-off if you want all the XP. Glad you're looking forward to the next one, thank you :D
@MattyEvan
@MattyEvan Год назад
When I do this solo, I usually rush the gadgets before dealing with the guards. If one is in the way or I can take out cleanly along the way, usually I'll do it. Never done many group heists since they usually screw it up. This one was clean af though, ECM rushing looks like a blast that results in some quick times. Fastest solo day 3 for me is just under 15. 😂😂
@mauer1
@mauer1 Год назад
Well this is a really well organized lobby not just a public one with all of them having ecm rush experience.
@MattyEvan
@MattyEvan Год назад
@@mauer1 I know lol. Even with my friends being organized , it always gets ruined. If I lobby with people it's mainly for loud heisting.
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Good strat Matt! I do the same taking out guards who get in my way, to start lowering their numbers. At the same time I'm already placing trip mines, to easily keep track of the ones who remain!
@MattyEvan
@MattyEvan Год назад
@@Marcmb I don't have my trip mines yet for the sensors. Working on that as we speak 😂
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
@@MattyEvan That's definitely my top recommendation! It takes a bit of effort, but it's so so useful :D
@keitainaba6115
@keitainaba6115 Год назад
Idk about exp (and long guide probs explain) but Im lazy .. Wouldnt carried loot into the escape count towards the bag count?
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hey keitainaba! If you don't care XP that's good, because basically bags carried on your bag count towards the money, but not towards the XP! For this reason you can actually carry the Old Wine on your back, and get a tiny amount of bonus money at the end of the heist :)
@keitainaba6115
@keitainaba6115 Год назад
@@Marcmb thanks!
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
@@keitainaba6115 You're welcome! Happy to help clear that up :)
@mizu8491
@mizu8491 Год назад
hey how come you use the locomotive over the judge?
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hey Mizu! Just personal preference really. I really like how it looks visually, and also its reload style (and magazine size) are more suited for more playstyle. The Judge is really good too of course :)
@_Salok
@_Salok Год назад
Is the bag shortcut still worth using on the upstairs vault ? I usually just drop em through the window you used to get the gold bags
@MattyEvan
@MattyEvan Год назад
If you know you have the top vault, I wouldn't bother using the shortcut. It would depend on the run I would guess. I never use the windows since I'm mostly a Solo player so I couldn't give full details. But I imagine doing an ECM rush like so it could seem faster, or could be close to same times... Good question.
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hey Salok! Very good question. It really depends on how coordinated your crew is, and the size of your crew. In our case, the clear bottleneck is the heist spawning new coke bags, so clearly for us it's faster to use the shortcut, since it's a faster way for the roof players to transfer the bags to the other 2 players (there are no other convenient throws that connect faster for that vault). For solo / duo, it's better to throw them through the roof window in every situation. For full crews that aren't very well coordinated, it's probably faster to use the roof window as well, simply because the bottleneck will be moving the bags, not the heist spawning them in.
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
@@MattyEvan For solo I like taking a risk and stacking all 8 bags on top of the glass, and then breaking it. Make sure no one is nearby to hear it, and start moving the coke as fast as you can. If any guard comes up and sees what you're doing, try to finish within the minute of time that ECMs give you. It's really fun! :D
@MattyEvan
@MattyEvan Год назад
@@Marcmb I didn't think of stacking them before the break, that smart AF and I'll be giving that a go today for sure! I did a stupid mistake yesterday and got a little ahead of myself by running into the vault with the lazers still up, I guess I wasn't thinking straight at the time. But what was odd was as I ran in and no alarm went off until I walked back out.😂🤷
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
@@MattyEvan Ouchhh always so painful when that happens haha! Glad you liked my slight modification to the window plan :) It's really fun: best of luck!
@Pyratic-
@Pyratic- Год назад
Wooo
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Glad you liked the rush challenge fusion, thank you! :D
@limbo8749
@limbo8749 3 месяца назад
how do you trigger SW so quickly? usually takes me like 3 shots to proc it
@Marcmb
@Marcmb 3 месяца назад
Hey Limbo! Go to your inventory and make sure your armor value is at "20". If you have more armor, you will need more shots! Also some mods like VanillaHUD+ turn your judges into single shot, which is a mess!
@limbo8749
@limbo8749 3 месяца назад
@@Marcmb Hey, I kinda didn't expect for you to respond (looking at the fact that the vid came out 1 year ago) but thank you!
@tanjakesar2022
@tanjakesar2022 Год назад
What about the wine?
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hey Tanja! The wine doesn't count for XP so I explicitly told the crew not to get it :p However we did have a bunch of time to spare, and we checked all 3 vault spots, so technically you could get the wine as well, if you wanted a tiny bit of extra money!
@GoldfisH_
@GoldfisH_ Год назад
Infamy 488!!! What do you think you are going to do when you hit 500?
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Very good question Goldfish! For now I'll stop at around 495 to 497, and focus on making solo videos... after that, we will see :D
@breakfost
@breakfost Год назад
What shotgun secondary you using?
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hey breakfost! That's the Locomotive 12G, a very useful stealth shotgun. I recently uploaded a video with my UPDATED stealth build, which has a section where my weapons (and weapon mods) are shown. Here's a timestamped link! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UsSTQep5erU.html
@breakfost
@breakfost Год назад
@@Marcmb Thanks!
@cuscus5011
@cuscus5011 Год назад
Is, your playing loud without the weapons?
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hey cuscus! The weapons are optimized for stealth, but most of them are very loud because we're rushing anyway (especially the explosive shotguns to trigger Second Wind).
@Ozzie_4.0
@Ozzie_4.0 Год назад
This isn't related to the video but does anyone know why completing the Lost in transit heist on normal or above has 0.1% of people completing it? Because when I checked it did say 0.1% of people have this achievement. I guess I have a really rare achivement.
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hey jay! It's probably because the heist is so new. The total playerbase is a really large number (the devs at some point gave away 5,000,000 copies for free; on top of all the base games they've sold over the years) so when a new heist releases it's only completed by a tiny percentage of that number (about ~40K players). That's why the achievements are so rare :)
@Ozzie_4.0
@Ozzie_4.0 Год назад
@@Marcmb Ah ok well thanks
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
@@Ozzie_4.0 Glad I could clear that up a bit! You're welcome :)
@nemanja54pchead39
@nemanja54pchead39 Год назад
Ecm rushing more like loud but 0 cops and stealth exp bonis
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Pretty much yeah! Very loud stealth gameplay, not sneaky at all, but with a stealth bonus for your efforts too! :D
@nemanja54pchead39
@nemanja54pchead39 Год назад
@@Marcmb tbh i like loud more bc its kinda fun .. not gonna hate stealth tho but its little bit fun when cops show up and when banger soundtrack (assault) starts. But on otger side stealth ecm russing is bit intresting bc you have limited time until cops show up + time
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
@@nemanja54pchead39 For sure yeah! The limited time aspect is definitely what I like the most. I like when you start the rush FROM THE BEGINNING so you know that you either complete the whole thing within your time limit, or you're facing the assault. It's a different kind of challenge, I feel :D
@foxyin_1168
@foxyin_1168 Год назад
What happens when when you open vault in stealth and the go loud, will you be able to steal gold?
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hey foxyin! Very good question. As far as I know, you'll be able to grab gold, but there's no drop-off point to secure it, so you can only carry 4 bags on your backs (which count for money, but not for XP).
@foxyin_1168
@foxyin_1168 Год назад
Understood
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
@@foxyin_1168 Glad I could clear that up, and sorry for the late response :) Been a busy week.
@user-yz7mt4hh5i
@user-yz7mt4hh5i 9 месяцев назад
@@Marcmb oh im 99% sure u can still secure it on the zipline even in loud... maybe that was on the old version idk
@lugas4548
@lugas4548 Год назад
2:17 How do you use the vent to move the coke?
@alexander.0001
@alexander.0001 Год назад
In the preplanning there is the "Bag Shortcut" asset
@Xenon389
@Xenon389 Год назад
Firstly you have to buy the bag shortcut asset using favours in preplanning, once you buy that then there is a vent on the roof (near where you spawn) to throw the coke into, which makes it drop down on the 1st floor. You have to be much more careful in stealth when using this though!
@alexander.0001
@alexander.0001 Год назад
However, it's not really helpful if you're doing it solo, so keep in mind
@InVeRnyak
@InVeRnyak Год назад
There is other vent hole at roof, you just throw coke in it and it will get to other side
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hey Lugas! Just commenting here to confirm that everything mentioned by *@alexander*, *@Xenon*, and *@InVeRynyak* is all correct. Xenon has the more thorough explanation, if you want all the details!
@mauer1
@mauer1 Год назад
We don't need desktops to hack the vault
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Ooh actually I never thought about this, but I just realized that, in-universe, the delays inbetween each hack interaction are probably caused because Bain needs some time to do his things...
@mauer1
@mauer1 Год назад
@@Marcmb yeah now if only bain actually knew what hes doing. opening the vault, disabling lasers... "Ah too bad we cant get the gold now, but we can come back another time"
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
@@mauer1 That voiceline bug has been in the game for so long... it wasn't there on release, but it's been YEARS since it started working wrong. Hopefully they'll fix it before PAYDAY3 :D
@famlit1088
@famlit1088 Год назад
what if i said this was my 2nd ever heist and somehow i didnt quit the game after beating it
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Impressive! Not many heisters start their journey with such a heist, that's for sure :D
@famlit1088
@famlit1088 Год назад
@@Marcmb tbf i was clueless and just did the 1st or 2nd thing that popped up lol
@je_sus332
@je_sus332 Год назад
I wish
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
I wish the XP was a bit higher to compensate for the fac there's 3 days! At the moment Election Day is just flat-out better...!
@geteriking4865
@geteriking4865 Год назад
you have a 60hz monitor?
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hey geteriking! Sorry for the slow response, it's been a busy week. Why do you ask, I wonder? I actually have a 144 Hz monitor but I record at 60 FPS, so I don't think it can possibly record any more frames than that!
@monochrome5685
@monochrome5685 Год назад
How do you get so few damage on sw?
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hey monochrome! Excellent question. It's two different things: 1) My HE Judges have a silencer so the damage is as low as it can be while still damaging all my armor. No damage skills either. 2) I'm using Frenzy ACE which reduces the damage even further. This allows me to lower my health to get the most out of Yakuza, while still being able to use SW :)
@monochrome5685
@monochrome5685 Год назад
@@Marcmb interesting strategy, thanks for the info
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
@@monochrome5685 No worries :) If you want more details, I have a full video about my Second Wind build. Enjoy!
@nttb1273
@nttb1273 Год назад
why is the second inspector unkillable?
@mauer1
@mauer1 Год назад
A little bit of trolling for the silent assassin players I would imagine.
@lowkeystupidasf
@lowkeystupidasf Год назад
​@@mauer1 Also this is a very old heist, back at launch you could, without any mods, dominate a guard to prevent the pager from going off, so FF was very easy as you could dominate every guard and run around freely and still have 4 pagers
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
I agree with what they said yup, pretty sure it's just to mess with Silent Assassin players! Even though the fix is as simple as being there when he arrives, pressing F within 1.5s, and dominating him... but most SA players can't manage that, so it works out fine!
@U_Suketh
@U_Suketh Год назад
4:43 why he say politicians twice
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hahaha good one! Politicians may be the bad guys, but we're the _worse guys_ then :p
@tarihimanyak9787
@tarihimanyak9787 Год назад
Sorry, Im late Turkey shut down youtube for about half a day.
@GalaxyPixelZ
@GalaxyPixelZ Год назад
orospu teröristler
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Aah no worries Galip! Hope everything is OK. It also took me a long time to reply because it's been a very busy week...
@GalaxyPixelZ
@GalaxyPixelZ Год назад
@@Marcmb yeah at the time there was a terror bomb attack in turkey and everyone was posting explicit showcases of the scenario so they had to shut down every social media unfortunately :(
@gdpontes
@gdpontes Год назад
yoo first I guess lmao
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Heyy thanks for the quick comment pontesgd! Sorry it's taken me so long to read these comments, it's been a busy week :p
@gdpontes
@gdpontes Год назад
@@Marcmb It's fine👍
@narjunzindahai
@narjunzindahai Год назад
Marc. Go outside, touch some grass. Talk to your family and not Almir.
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hahaha thanks arjun! Glad you liked the gameplay here :p I appreciate it!
@justapieceofsoap4332
@justapieceofsoap4332 Год назад
Now do it fair: without mods, good luck.
@mauer1
@mauer1 Год назад
What's the difference in mods? You can time the ecm with a phone app aswell Or even if you take off 2 seconds per ecm because people are scared it's still within the slower time
@justapieceofsoap4332
@justapieceofsoap4332 Год назад
@@mauer1 If you often use these kind of helper mods then I understand why there's no difference in between that and using an external device to help. I got nothing against these kind of mods but it's still a way of cheating since it undeniably makes the game easier, that is a fact that somehow triggers many people. What I mean to say is why bother doing a challenge is you're going to spoil it with mods? It's something I just don't prefer. An example of doing this challenge fairly would be to watch the in-game timer and have each player place an ECM as a precalculated time, I think that's perfectly possible with some practice.
@mauer1
@mauer1 Год назад
​@@justapieceofsoap4332 the thing is. due to the randomness of the maps it wouldnt be that simple to just use predetermined times. but its all about hearing the ecms. if you cant hear them make the game louder until you can. thats just stupid.
@justapieceofsoap4332
@justapieceofsoap4332 Год назад
@@mauer1 @Mauer01 I see no logic in what you're saying, the randomness of maps doesn't affect time or the duration of ECM's. And I have no idea what you mean by hearing them and ajusting the sound of the game.
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hey justapieceofsoap! Very fair comment, I agree somewhat! However my upload just a few weeks ago was actually about ECM rushing without HUD: not only with perfectly timed ECMs, but also with perfectly timed Pocket ECMs. I demonstrated how simple it is with a full Big Bank rush, regardless of player color, and you can quite easily see that with a bit of knowledge, it really is very simple! So while I agree that it's true that for beginner rushers turning off the HUD adds a considerable amount of difficulty, for experienced rushers it's a meaningless difference, and the HUD is mostly there so that the viewer can follow what's happening exactly :p For more details check the video I just referenced, which I uploaded 4 weeks ago!
@timemage88x13
@timemage88x13 Год назад
How I wish I could find a CS crew on PlayStation that could rock like that. Psn timemage88.
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hey timemage! Unfortunately most players in these comments are on PC, so it's tricky to find players. You can try your luck in the official PAYDAY2 Discord: they have a sub-channel dedicated to Looking For Party, for players on PlayStation!
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