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France's Final Battle Rifle Iteration: The MAS 49-56 

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While the development of the MAS 49 had given France a very utilitarian rifle that could serve as both for both marksmen and grenadiers, it could still be made better. In large part, the change to the 49-56 pattern was motivated by the move to adopt NATO-compatible 22mm rifle grenades. With the new muzzle hardware, several other changes were made. A gas cutoff was added, to prevent wear and tear on the action from grenade use (something that was found to be a real problem on the MAS 49). The gas port was also moved farther down the barrel, and the handguard and barrel were both shortened to make the rifle a bit lighter and handier.
Production began in 1957, and about 175,000 of the rifles were made, seeing as France's standard front-line infantry rifle until the adoption of the FAMAS in 1979.
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@nutz4gunz457
@nutz4gunz457 5 лет назад
Ians master plan is almost complete. Step 1: Buy a bunch of cheap smelly French guns most people haven't heard of. Step 2: Start a RU-vid channel and become an internet celebrity. Step 3: Gain over a million followers and become Gun Jesus. Step 4: Write and publish the book on French military rifles. Step 5: Sit back and watch price of rifles skyrocket. Step 6: Sell cache of rifles for huge profit.
@walkercobb2808
@walkercobb2808 5 лет назад
The trouble is that he fell in love with the guns and can't sell them.
@ron827
@ron827 5 лет назад
I also fell in love with these French rifles and bought one of each back when they were relatively inexpensive. No, none are for sale and am smiling as they appreciate.
@twinkleegpieplayer5002
@twinkleegpieplayer5002 5 лет назад
Step 7: stan FAMAS rifle because He's talented (Omg he's more like loona) then repeat
@ron827
@ron827 5 лет назад
@@twinkleegpieplayer5002 WTF?
@twinkleegpieplayer5002
@twinkleegpieplayer5002 5 лет назад
@@ron827 haha I just joking oof
@yop_cholo
@yop_cholo 5 лет назад
Damn, now all French rifles will get more expensive and difficult to find, even in France...
@HaqqAttak
@HaqqAttak 5 лет назад
>Immediately goes on gunbroker and bids on one.
@manchurianatlarge
@manchurianatlarge 5 лет назад
Step 1: build up stockpile of obscure French rifles. Step 2: spend years painstakingly research obscure French rifles Step 3: get 1.2m subscribers, 360m views Step 4: hype up obscure French rifles on your massively popular channel Step 5: profit???
@lars7935
@lars7935 5 лет назад
@@manchurianatlarge Step 6 write a book about french rifles
@twinkleegpieplayer5002
@twinkleegpieplayer5002 5 лет назад
@@manchurianatlarge Step 7 stan FAMAS rifle and repeat the ritual
@bagen3268
@bagen3268 5 лет назад
@@HaqqAttak >meme arrows on youtube
@prestonsamson3674
@prestonsamson3674 5 лет назад
You know so much about this!! It’s almost as if you made a book...
@lolyankovic6952
@lolyankovic6952 5 лет назад
Preston Samson yeah I would suggest him to write a book . I prefer he should do one on French guns
@performancepursuit
@performancepursuit 5 лет назад
I'm saving up for the audiobook version narrated by the ghosts of Charlton Heston and Charles Degale!
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 5 лет назад
He literally THE book on the subject.
@captainfactoid3867
@captainfactoid3867 5 лет назад
PRAISE ALLAH you can’t read apparently
@axelpatrickb.pingol3228
@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 5 лет назад
Better this than the Bergmanns...
@ExUSSailor
@ExUSSailor 5 лет назад
French firearms get a bad rep, for some damn reason. I bought a MAS-36 about 15 years ago, for $125, from a military antiques & used gun store. There were a number of SMLEs, and, Mausers in his rack, all with outrageous price tags. Then, down at the end, I spotted this rifle I didn't recognize, that looked almost brand new. When I asked the guy about it, he said it was, "Some damn French thing".
@ExUSSailor
@ExUSSailor 5 лет назад
@@tyrssen1 It really is. Before WW1, and, then in the inter war period, they led the world in small arms innovations. Their swift defeat in 1940 wasn't due to any deficiency in arms, technology, or, fighting spirit, but, in an improper, foolish doctrine, and, stubborn, inflexible leadership, who refused to adapt.
@haviiithelegogunner907
@haviiithelegogunner907 5 лет назад
Last war france fought well in? 1. Napoleon campaign?
@TomFromYoutube
@TomFromYoutube 5 лет назад
French rifles! Get your French rifles here! Never been fired and only dropped once!
@CitizenWea
@CitizenWea 5 лет назад
Maybe because they were dropped too often.
@clmwrx
@clmwrx 5 лет назад
They are responsible for a lot of large caliber guns and AA guns too
@Gunsbeerfreedom87
@Gunsbeerfreedom87 5 лет назад
WERE cheap. I suspect by next week they'll average higher than the 44 or 49.
@Gladiator34B
@Gladiator34B 5 лет назад
Gunsbeerfreedom87 I mean, there are at least 1 million people that see his videos. And that's just subscribers, not to mention others that surf youtube
@RealLargeManTheGiantOne
@RealLargeManTheGiantOne 4 года назад
never realized how expensive these are, and how lucky I was to get to fidle around with one when I worked with a french military museum.
@johnstacy7902
@johnstacy7902 5 лет назад
Prices of MAS rifles goes up 20%. Thank you Gun Jesus
@michaellorusso4912
@michaellorusso4912 25 дней назад
Ian doesn't care about you, he just wants to line his pockets with cash. All you boobs here send him money.
@keenanmcbreen7073
@keenanmcbreen7073 5 лет назад
The french invented smokeless powder, and the clipazine!
@AntonEugeneLanthier
@AntonEugeneLanthier 5 лет назад
@@3eightiesopinion524 Switzerland and Belgium are meme countries, all Swiss and Belgian inventions are French.
@Warptenlololol
@Warptenlololol 4 года назад
@@3eightiesopinion524 Boxer, a English colonel, upgraded the Flobert's rimfire systemn in 1866 with the Boxer centerfire cartridge. Mauser, a German, invented the stripper clip system for the 1888 commission rifle, not to be mixed with the "en bloc" clips that James Paris Lee for his Lee rifle of 1890, and Ferdinand Mannlicher for his M1885, so definitely not Russian. Dieudonne Saive, a Belgian, invented the double stack magazine for an order for the French military, so not Germans. Robert Wilson, an American, coined the first patent for detachable box magazine in 1864. Mannlicher indeed was the first to coin the straightpull system, that was based on the 1874 "Gras sytem" from France, there is a reason why an heavy chunk of Gras rifle where build by Steyr and why the Steyr, from M1885 to M1895/30 bear a striking ressemblance with the old French 1874. So before you spew some rather questionable, unfounded opinions it would be wise to educate yourself a little bit, you might impress the youtube plebs, but you're just going to make a fool of yourself if you preach that around gun nuts.
@BobWidlefish
@BobWidlefish 3 года назад
@@Warptenlololol the key thing is: different countries working against each other in a competition to kill the rest is a good system for the advancement of small arms technology. None of us can kill as fast as all of us can kill.
@SolidSioux1987
@SolidSioux1987 5 лет назад
Everyone: It's a magazine! Not a Clip! The French: "Hold my wine!" *puts a Clip on a Magazine*
@justineallandevelos6491
@justineallandevelos6491 5 лет назад
*in french accent*Sacre bleu what have you done antoine!?
@kevynhansyn2902
@kevynhansyn2902 4 года назад
Clipazine!
@zacharyrollick6169
@zacharyrollick6169 4 года назад
So they basically copied the Swiss.
@leneanderthalien
@leneanderthalien 4 года назад
@@zacharyrollick6169 not realy: the use from clip/magazine is because in parallel with the MAS 49-56, was the MAS 36 still in use as "reserve rifle", and the MAS 36 use 5 shot clips, so the MAS 49-56 was able to use directly MAS 36 clips or classic loaded magazines...
@zacharyrollick6169
@zacharyrollick6169 4 года назад
@@leneanderthalien The latching clip on the side the magazine. Like the Swiss Schmidt-Rubin.
@pekkamakela2566
@pekkamakela2566 5 лет назад
You should use this in desert brutality.
@thedamnyankee1
@thedamnyankee1 5 лет назад
seems like it would be easier than the M1 he suggested. The box mag makes it easier to show clear and other administrative stuff.
@greyhoundTex
@greyhoundTex 5 лет назад
I back this idea!
@methodeetrigueur1164
@methodeetrigueur1164 4 года назад
It was used in Tchad, Djibouti, Lebanon...
@fredericvolatil8910
@fredericvolatil8910 3 года назад
@@methodeetrigueur1164 Algéria war also (54/62)
@methodeetrigueur1164
@methodeetrigueur1164 3 года назад
@@fredericvolatil8910 True, with MAS 36, Garand M1 and Winchester US M1.
@practicalshooter6517
@practicalshooter6517 5 лет назад
In 1981 I was still using the MAS49. At that point not all units had the FAMAS
@Zorglub1966
@Zorglub1966 4 года назад
J'ai eu le 49/56 en 1987, pendant la FETA et le PEG, et à ma grande frustration, on a du tirer une poignée de cartouches à blanc, rien de plus. Les tirs à balles se faisaient uniquement au FAMAS.
@stevenhoman2253
@stevenhoman2253 5 лет назад
Its become a far more aesthetically appealing rifle in this configuration. If only it had a larger box magazine.
@mrb692
@mrb692 5 лет назад
There’re folks who’ve fitted the external magazine catch to things like FAL magazines with good results
@G-Mastah-Fash
@G-Mastah-Fash 5 лет назад
Probably didn't make too much of a difference since the guys using the rifles were together all the time anyway. Somebody certainly always had his gun ready to fire in case of a close quarters engagement. Magazine size is really only a concern if you're alone.
@KurtOnoIR
@KurtOnoIR 4 года назад
@@mrb692 I saw a guy on RU-vid that welded two together that worked. I tried adding a clip to a fal mag and an m1a mag all bent up but neither worked well at all. Too much work for an unreliable mag, the fal got me the closest but if I try it again I'm just going to put two french mags together like the guy did. He also made his own tacticool stock. It didn't look too bad either.
@hpal6124
@hpal6124 3 года назад
Fm 24/29 25 rounds were modified by military units to fit on the mas 49 rifle especialy airforce paratroopers.
@TheLongislandlimey
@TheLongislandlimey 4 года назад
Had my 49/56 for about 20 years. Love it. Very accurate. Load my own ammo using the CCI hard Milspec primers and never had a slam fire issue. Just a good honest shoot all day long rifle.
@guillaumeroncin5870
@guillaumeroncin5870 5 лет назад
I had this rifle for the Bastille day military parade in Paris in 1992.
@akaviri5
@akaviri5 5 лет назад
I believe it is still used by the republican guard
@florentleider222
@florentleider222 5 лет назад
moi je l'avais au camp de Souge au début de mon service militaire en 1969...Ahhh c'est loin...J'étais le moins mauvais (!) tireur de ma section au 49-56. Je trouvais qu'il était doux à l'épaule, mais les groupements n'étaient pas mirobolants. Je crois me souvenir qu'il était considéré "bon de guerre" si H+L < 40 cm à 100 m. Mettre une lunette sur une arme non sélectionnée relève du bizarre.
@guillaumeroncin5870
@guillaumeroncin5870 5 лет назад
@@akaviri5 Yes, you are right, the foot 1st regiment uses the 49/56 for the demo drill called "quadrille des baïonnettes"
@guillaumeroncin5870
@guillaumeroncin5870 5 лет назад
@@florentleider222 J'ai aussi passé des heures allongé au pas de tir de Brest puis après à nous entrainer à défiler sur l'esplanade Tourville.
@drdoom-skull2244
@drdoom-skull2244 3 года назад
On avait des FSA pour les exercices de combat pendant la PMS en 1990, avec des balles a blanc, mais des FAMAS pour le tir. J'ai quand meme eu la chance de tirer avec un 49-56 a une journee portes-ouvertes (balles plastiques !)
@John1911
@John1911 5 лет назад
What always hurt these rifles in comparison to the FAL and G3 was the 7.5 French caliber. Getting 7.5 wasn’t that easy for us back in the 1990’s. When we found it, it was surplus Syrian. Good video. Regards, Marky
@AshleyPomeroy
@AshleyPomeroy 5 лет назад
If Syria needs money to rebuild after the war, all they have to do is find a way to export their stocks of curio and relic WW2 / post-war small arms. STG-44s, MASes, and banged-up Panzer IV's for everyone!
@BaronSamedi1959
@BaronSamedi1959 5 лет назад
Well of course, during most of the life-time of this rifle France was only a NATO member by name but not by real integration. So I guess they saw no reason to follow NATO standards.
@therideneverends1697
@therideneverends1697 5 лет назад
@@AshleyPomeroy Honestly if someone could stamp the recivers i have no doubt STG 44 parts kits would sell super quick
@jason127x99
@jason127x99 4 года назад
Karl Moens I bought this gun back in the 90s if it was in 308 win. How does the 7.5 French compare to 308?
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 5 лет назад
Dunno why everyone is so excited about this, but I guess this is the best channel to find out why. Going to watch all the MAS series videos right now. Thanks to Ian for his skill in bringing military history to life.
@blueband8114
@blueband8114 5 лет назад
One sturdy looking rifle. I remember seeing these on a trip to France( school trip) in 1978. That and the MAT 49 i think.
@methodeetrigueur1164
@methodeetrigueur1164 4 года назад
Right, french soldiers were by pairs, one got the semi-auto MAS 49/56, the other the MAT 49 SMG.
@1001CP
@1001CP 5 лет назад
This is an amazing review Sir! Thank you for going so in depth!!! I actually have a MAS 49/56 that was converted to 7.62x51 (.308) with original French parts, which is rare. Its easy to tell as the gas tube is smaller and not just cut down after the barrel was reamed AND I do not get some of the headaches associated with the company that imported and modified many others. It had a very good modification. I absolutely LOVE this rife. It is a TANK! Really easy to target with the large battle sight and I also have the see through mount scope. That big bolt re ally averts jams and you cab always flip it to single fire at the grenade launcher for even more accuracy. The impingement gas system works WELL and keeps the receiver very clean even after several hundred rounds. I also have never had a slam fire probably due to the titanium firing pin it had installed.This will stay in our small family collection for sure. I shoot it as often as I can and it is a go to rifle for all around AND firing it with the night sight attachment is amazingly fun as are the grenades!!!! I also got it for $300 several years ago!!! They have gotten pricey but worth it.
@thunderbenbdc0919
@thunderbenbdc0919 4 года назад
Hi Ian, I'd like to correct a little mistake --> On M.A.S. 49-56, you have the possibilty to adjust aim elevation. You do this by rotate the "guidon" (the little pin near barrel muzzle), click by click: counter clockwise to lower, clockwise to upper aim. Cheers
@arielsada3940
@arielsada3940 5 лет назад
I own one. Fine weapon and shoots well. I wish I had that scope.
@forestcampbell8962
@forestcampbell8962 5 лет назад
I wonder how rare and costly they are? Because i was thinking I'd love to own one of those but was curious on the scope availability.
@arielsada3940
@arielsada3940 5 лет назад
Forest campbell, I’ve owned mine for 20 years and I think I paid 125.00 for it.
@sambaggins2798
@sambaggins2798 4 года назад
They also sell reproduction scopes for those rifles.
@Pcm979
@Pcm979 5 лет назад
I can tell how excited you are. This has been a long time coming!
@prestonsamson3674
@prestonsamson3674 5 лет назад
These French guns are really misunderstood. Most people think it’s bad because it’s French but some of them are very good rifles.
@Giloup92
@Giloup92 5 лет назад
« Most people ». You mean most American people?
@caseybennett944
@caseybennett944 5 лет назад
The French seemed to have a habit of being very early or very late to big firearms concepts.
@therideneverends1697
@therideneverends1697 5 лет назад
@@caseybennett944 I mean the thing had a 10 round mag and was issued into the 80s, thats alarming
@nac24444
@nac24444 3 года назад
Thanks Ian for your book which is an exhaustive review of French rifles, this video in combination with your book has convinced me to buy one which I love ! Now I want to add more of the MAS series of rifles to my growing collection of French rifles. BTW I changed out the firing pin for a titanium one like you recommended since I shoot it at the range quite often.
@Regolith86
@Regolith86 5 лет назад
**sliding on and off buttpad** "This is for grenade, this is for gun, One is for fighting, the other for Hun!"
@r.eticdu1371
@r.eticdu1371 4 года назад
I used this rifle for a long time before FAMAS arrived. It is a very safe weapon. I have fond memories of it.
@mustafankamil1973
@mustafankamil1973 5 лет назад
the grenade launcher is the same as the FAMAS
@tinuraviel9507
@tinuraviel9507 5 лет назад
@Forgotten Weapons Ian, are you going to mention that we still have MAS 36 in service ?? For those not knowledgable in french weapons, we are still servicing FR-F2 sniper rifles, wich are an evolution of the FR-F1, wich are both using a evolved MAS 36 reciever coupled to detachable magazin like the ones on MAS 49.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 5 лет назад
I will be doing an FR-F1 video when the book starts shipping. :)
@tinuraviel9507
@tinuraviel9507 5 лет назад
@@ForgottenWeapons oh that's nice !! I was affraid either you had "forgotten" about this one or you were lacking material for a video 😉
@methodeetrigueur1164
@methodeetrigueur1164 4 года назад
Tinuraviel No more MAS36 in french army. And the FR-F2 will be replaced by FN SCAR-H.
@stefankroik1083
@stefankroik1083 5 лет назад
Ian how many of these rifles are from your own collection? I know I've seen a video where you mention you have an intrest in collecting french firearms. Keep up the good work in telling the history of modern firearms.
@bobgarr6246
@bobgarr6246 5 лет назад
What should be addressed here is the design flaw in all the MA'S series of rifles, as well as SMLE's, Winchester lever guns and others. And that would be the two piece stocks. If not fitted, bedded and firmly attached they have a long history of being an accuracy culprit. The French chambering is quite adequate, on par with our .308 win/ 7.62 NATO round. New ammo can be acquired from some lesser known providers as the major manufacturers like Remington, Winchester, Federal and the like don t load for it. However, one can easily reload for it as dies, components and the like can be had by searching places like Old Western Scrounger, Graff, Privi Partisan, Huntington/RCBS, Shotgun News, and many others. It's out there , I've seen it. You just have to do the leg work and research. Your not going to find it at Dicks, Wal Mart, Cabellas, Midway or any big box stores.
@SolarEmp1re
@SolarEmp1re 5 лет назад
I picked mine up 4 years ago for $300 bucks, the shop I bought it from thought it was chambered in 7.5 swiss and thus sporterized. Also, I recommend murrays guns for firing pin replacements for the MAS and the SKS.
@georgesheffield1580
@georgesheffield1580 10 месяцев назад
7.5 Swiss really . Check again please
@dilbertbob5420
@dilbertbob5420 4 года назад
In2020, this rifle is only being sold by one dealer at a price of $1000. There is no ammo available. Only one ammo supply house carried 7.5MM French and they are currently out of stock. Needless to say, the ammo is expensive.
@troy9477
@troy9477 5 лет назад
I have always liked these. I think, with the grenade launcher sight removed, it is probably still kegal here in Kalifornia, assuming the muzzle device is credibly called a brake rather than a dlash suppressor. Great video as always. Thank you
@dannylanzi5104
@dannylanzi5104 10 месяцев назад
I came across your video today and it’s really a coincidence that I will receive my Mas 49/56 tomorrow. The video was very helpful and I took ur advice and purchased a firing pin with spring. Thanks for the heads up. I also subscribe to your channel. Really enjoy it and very informative. Thanks Ian
@sethroberson383
@sethroberson383 5 лет назад
I have two 49/56's in 7.5 French: G series with no arsenal refurbished stamp. H series refurbished in 1982. Both acquired in the 1990's for about 150 bucks each. Reload .308 bullets in reformed 6.5 x55 Swedish cases, Spring loaded firing pins over the titanium due to cost. I adjust the load for the non-adjustable 49/56 gas system, which give even better handling to this vintage battle rifle. As Mae says, it sings to my soul. Waited decades for the definitive Book to come along. I am so happy for you, Ian, to see your Book project do so well.
@SteveSmith-wm4qy
@SteveSmith-wm4qy 5 лет назад
these magazines must be a pain in the butt to get in and out of pouches
@sand0decker
@sand0decker 5 лет назад
And confuse you in the sheets
@1001CP
@1001CP 5 лет назад
​@@quentintin1 You are absolutely correct on the leather pouches that I have. The mag sits in there a certain way so you cant mess it up and you index the clip to its proper side when drawing. Mag changes are very fast despite it looking like it would be awkward. They drop free easily and you just drive it up into the mag well without having to mess with the clip. It locks itself into the rifle and off you go on that mag. I love mine!!!
@samhansen9771
@samhansen9771 5 лет назад
@@sand0decker oh _my_
@duck636
@duck636 4 года назад
@@1001CP Doesn't matter much you only issued two.
@benevolenthighwayman882
@benevolenthighwayman882 4 года назад
You can just use the clip to hang it on webbing, to a coat pocket, etc.
@Scuggish
@Scuggish 5 лет назад
Gun jesus does it again
@Scuggish
@Scuggish 5 лет назад
@@shaku2182 makes another great video
@1804unclesam
@1804unclesam 5 лет назад
I can't wait to get my copy of Ian's book. Now I want a book like this for American, British, Italian, Russian, Japanese..... oh heck all of them. Ian is spoiling us.
@blackore64
@blackore64 5 лет назад
Most military surplus rifles tend to end up in United States, which is a bit of a self-replicating cycle, as military surplus is sold to United States, as they can be sold over there, which leads to surplus guns being pretty rare in Europe, which then contributes (among many other things) to there not really developing a gun culture based around these things in europe, which in turn allows politicans to ban these things from civilian ownership to appease the public after something bad happens, since number of people affected by ban is pretty minimal, which then leads to even more surplus guns being sold to United States... all meanwhile americans get to complain about rifles designed in late 19th century being cheap 'garbage rods'.
@1001CP
@1001CP 4 года назад
As we touched on at another ved you made (another excellent one!), I have this rifle and love it. It was very easy to be a sniper/DMR rifle as they were very accurate right off the line and built like a tank. They do have some blast to them but that is part of the fun. Also, using the cut off for a single shot also makes it even more accurate for longer ranges. As you said, the sights are very good for that period and I like them for close in as that bid front sight is hard to miss! There was a rumor that the charging handle plastic knob glowed in the dark, but I can find no reference to that as gospel anywhere, can you confirm or dispute on that little tidbit? IF it did glow, mine is long since dead and I do not think anything glowing being able to be seen easily would be on a battle rife this good. I know people think the clip on the side of the mag is strange but you rarely have a bad mag, the 7.7 and .308 work fine in each and they lock in TIGHT with a little training there is no problem seating them. Anyway, thank you for covering one of my fav C&R rifles. I love the history involved in all these C&R firearms and love your dedication to bringing them to us here. THANK YOU SIR!!! AND I gotta get this book!!!
@Zeeke01
@Zeeke01 3 года назад
You're the reason why I bought this rifle! After changing the firing pin as recommended by you. It is a great, easy to use and maintain rifle! I love it
@LN997-i8x
@LN997-i8x 5 лет назад
RIP the French milsurp market
@cjsteadman6217
@cjsteadman6217 4 года назад
I had a 49/56 that had been converted to 308 by century arms. I owned it for a couple of years but sold it due to it's propensity to slam fire. Years later, I wish I had hung on to it.
@laurrentbarre8605
@laurrentbarre8605 3 года назад
I'm French this wapon was robust and improve serve 4 decade and thanks to our shitty politicians who banned access to these weapons and sold all stocks outside of France to people who don't know anything about these weapons, we don't even find this weapons in France anymore or with exorbitant price. It's a shame knowing that this weapons are used by all prestigious unit of French army, marin and parachutist comandos, French Foreign Legion, in all post-ww2 conflicts where France was engaged: Indochina war Malgache war Corea war Algéria war Suez crisis Cameroun war Bizerte crisis First civil war in Tchad Sahara ocidental war Legendary FFL 2 rep operation pull out europeen ostage of Kolwezi second Shaba war Tchado-Libyen war Liban war
@codyglacz8604
@codyglacz8604 5 лет назад
I actually own one of these, i got mine from a gun show one time as i was browsing though and i saw this odd looking rifle with grenade launcher spigot and sights and a funky magazine i picked it up as i never seen one before and asked the seller what it is and what was the price for it, he said its a french rifle and can be yours for 450 bucks so i brought it, he did say it was converted to 7.62 Nato by the importer but he had no issues with it, and sure enough it worked flawlessly. Now i need to find a buttpad, a scope, and a bayonet for it
@RabbitusMaximus
@RabbitusMaximus 2 года назад
From the Charleville of .69 cal to the FAMAS “Bugle” the only thing the French need apologize for was the Chauchat and that three shot Berthier carbine. French small arms are awesomely innovative and functional.
@olivierpuyou3621
@olivierpuyou3621 2 года назад
For the Chauchat submachine gun I can specify that with the 8mm Lebel for which it was designed, it was an "average" weapon. Developed and manufactured in a "bicycle" factory. So hey, maybe the standards weren't at the average standard. Let's not forget that it is the FIRST of its category, a kind of ancestor. The biggest problems of the American Chauchat come from the conversion into US caliber by the US ordinance in 8mm Lebel the operation rendered very signal services in the war of trench. But it was declared obsolete in France in 1918/19 I believe.
@NM-wd7kx
@NM-wd7kx Год назад
@@olivierpuyou3621 I think the Madsen would take first first prize as a light machinegun/automatic rifle, but the Chauchat was for sure the first in mass adoption
@JACKSONLEWISOFCANADA
@JACKSONLEWISOFCANADA 3 года назад
Yup because the ten round rifle did well fighting against gurellias in Indochina with 30 round AK…. Yet we still waited 30 years to replace…. Oyyy france…
@p3kab00icu
@p3kab00icu 3 года назад
I wonder how many times someone accidentally fired a bullet into a launchable.
@owensthilaire8189
@owensthilaire8189 5 лет назад
One of the few French weapons that i genuinely liked. Always with the odd ball calibers though.
@mazkact
@mazkact 5 лет назад
LOVE THESE RIFLES, they pair well with an H&R Sahara.
@robertcolbourne386
@robertcolbourne386 5 лет назад
Of all the French rifles this is the one i wish i owned.
@robertcolbourne386
@robertcolbourne386 5 лет назад
Lol beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Sometimes ugly has a beauty all its own. ie the MAT 49 or even better the Hotchkiss Universal smg my god what a great survival gun !
@Zorglub1966
@Zorglub1966 5 лет назад
@@robertcolbourne386 totally agree!
@anthonymayor5171
@anthonymayor5171 5 лет назад
Looks like a handy gun. Just needs a 20 rnd mag.
@Tekdruid
@Tekdruid 5 лет назад
Aren't you kind of spoiling the secrets of the book with these videos? * tongue-in-cheek *
@Targetpopper
@Targetpopper 5 лет назад
CCI #34 primers are made for guns with free floating pins. If you are a reloader and load for guns like the Garand, M1a, Mas etc. they can reduce the risk of slam fires. I love my Mas 49/56. One of my favorite rifles.
@toddhoward5964
@toddhoward5964 5 лет назад
Ian, I love your work but I'm fairly certain you've just drove the price of these into low level orbit.
@hunterevans8777
@hunterevans8777 5 лет назад
Todd Howard if you enjoy Ian's work fallout 4 firearms wouldn't be so utterly shit.
@233kosta
@233kosta 5 лет назад
5:57 So... could it legitimately be called a _clippazine_ ?
@arifhossain9751
@arifhossain9751 5 лет назад
Yes. Yes it could. Also, cool profile pic.
@233kosta
@233kosta 5 лет назад
​@@arifhossain9751 Thanks! It's a remnant from when I had the spare time to actively create apostates.
@arifhossain9751
@arifhossain9751 5 лет назад
I like how that comment insinuates that you got so into guns you gave up making apostates.
@233kosta
@233kosta 5 лет назад
@@arifhossain9751 I was into guns long before I made it to the internet 😂
@ronnenni7246
@ronnenni7246 2 года назад
I'm an old garand dude but after the maz 46 video you did I'm in
@johnstacy7902
@johnstacy7902 4 года назад
I really wanted one. Thanks Ian that won't happen.... :(
@weaponsgrade47
@weaponsgrade47 4 года назад
Pretty cool rifle... might use it until the Germans come
@Archaeopteryx128
@Archaeopteryx128 5 лет назад
CCI makes a thicker cup large rifle primer specifically for rifles with the slam fire problem.
@LeArquebus
@LeArquebus 5 лет назад
sounds like a rifle for a desert brutality 2020
@grumpycat_1
@grumpycat_1 3 года назад
I love my 49/56.... I have never shot it... I cant bring myself to defile it as its in Mint/perfect condition w/ all accessories... I wish I had bought a lesser one when they were cheap.. so I'd have a shooter. No idea what they are like to shoot but I always loved the way it looks. Its the ONLY gun I still have that I dont shoot... I sold off my collection of "I own this b/c feelings" and only have "I own this b/c its the best tool for the job" guns now... Other then the 49/56... That french witch casting spells and 5h!T
@b16sol94
@b16sol94 5 лет назад
My 49/56 is a g35 serial number unless I’m missing something mine would be one of the first.
@LaudianoHeathen
@LaudianoHeathen 3 года назад
Looks like a blaster-rifle a bounty hunter in Star Wars would use lol
@markpierson9723
@markpierson9723 5 лет назад
2500+ pledges for the signature edition as of now. You’ve got a lot signaturing to do. Looking forward October.
@abedekok322
@abedekok322 5 лет назад
You made me buy your book and a French Rifle, Thanks Ian
@thagrifster594
@thagrifster594 4 года назад
Did the French ever make bigger magazines for the MAS?
@phileas007
@phileas007 5 лет назад
The next French development will be known as the FAMAMAS!
@MonMalthias
@MonMalthias 5 лет назад
The next French development will be prefixed with "G" for "Gewehr", because there aren't any military small arms manufacturers in France any more.
@leneanderthalien
@leneanderthalien 4 года назад
@@MonMalthias Whe have some small manufactures like PGM who made high quality military rifles but yes the MAS factory did close in the 90', so the replacement for the FAMAS is unfortunately the HK416 german redesigned AR ...I had first hope the french government did choice the Thales F90 as logic replacement from the FAMAS, but no: despite made from the french group Thales, but by Lithgow Arms in Australia ("not european")...but our ammunitions are still not made in Europe: whats the logic?
@MonMalthias
@MonMalthias 4 года назад
@@leneanderthalien Welcome to neoliberalism, where everything is for sale: your pensions, your power plants, your roads and bridges, your railways, your banks, your arms manufacturing capability, even your healthcare. Of course, everyone is for _dirigiste_ when in a pandemic, but when the lockdowns are lifted, construct a guillotine for Mr Macron.
@methodeetrigueur1164
@methodeetrigueur1164 4 года назад
Malthias Look for PGM, Chapuis or Verney Carron.
@USAFACorey
@USAFACorey 5 лет назад
Wouldn't moving the gas port forward DECREASE the dwell time? Reduces the length of the barrel between gas port and end of barrel, so time between gas tube pressurizing and pressure drop when bullet leaves barrel is less.
@alexmartin9177
@alexmartin9177 5 лет назад
Corey Lynch the bolt can’t start moving until the bullet passes the gas port, bleeding off some of the gas pressure that is behind the bullet. Moving the port closer to the end of the barrel increases the distance the bullet has to travel before the bolt starts to move.
@USAFACorey
@USAFACorey 5 лет назад
@@alexmartin9177 Yes, that is all true. However what you have described is not an increase in dwell time. Dwell time is amount of time that the gas system remains pressurized, i.e. the amount of time taken for the bullet to travel from the gas port (when the gas system becomes pressurized) to the end of the barrel (when the pressure drops to ambient). Moving a gas port forward reduces gas system pressure and reduces dwell time.
@alexmartin9177
@alexmartin9177 5 лет назад
Corey Lynch no dwell time is the amount of time the system remains locked
@USAFACorey
@USAFACorey 5 лет назад
@@alexmartin9177 that's just factually wrong. Google "dwell time firearms" or anything similar to confirm. I have heard once or twice heard the term "LOCKED dwell time" used to refer to time between primer ignition and cartridge extraction. But very very rarely (as it is not a particularly important parameter) and always with the "locked" qualifer. 99.99% of the time someone refers to "dwell time" in relation to gas operated firearms, they are using the definition I originally described above
@alexmartin9177
@alexmartin9177 5 лет назад
Dwell time as applied to firearms appears generally agree with out but no one points to a source for that and dwell time can refer to the amount of time a mechanical cycle spends on any one action. Based on that, both uses are correct.
@124thDragoon
@124thDragoon 5 лет назад
"Next time on Forgotten Weapons...the *actual*, final, ultimate model of the MAS series of rifles - the Century Arms .308-converted MAS 49/56" Don't worry, I'll see myself out.
@threejaguar
@threejaguar 5 лет назад
A nasty conversion. The original barrel needs a .311" bullet. Shooting standard .308 in that Century re-chamber causes an amusing large pattern.
@124thDragoon
@124thDragoon 5 лет назад
@@threejaguar to be clear, I don't (yet) reload. I'm not an expert on the subject. But all of the data I've seen on 7.5x54 French ammo lists bullet diameters between .3075 and .309. The only oddity I've heard of 7.5x54 barrels is that their rifling is deeper than most.
@obifongkenobi
@obifongkenobi 5 лет назад
On mine, the iron sights don't line up. On the few times I shot it it worked. But it does slamfire on civilian 308 ammo
@jimdunkle4823
@jimdunkle4823 5 лет назад
@@threejaguar Hornady tenth edition 7.5x 54mm mas bullet diameter... 0.308 I have one in 308 put a spring firing pin in and it shoots great I would like an adj. gas port someone makes one but I can't find him!!
@PyroDREW.
@PyroDREW. 4 года назад
French rifle for sale never fired only dropped once
@themeatpopsicle
@themeatpopsicle 5 лет назад
Forgotten Weapons without French rifles would be... ¡NO MAS!
@michaellorusso4912
@michaellorusso4912 Месяц назад
What is the “Length of Pull” ?
@burnsboysaresoldiers
@burnsboysaresoldiers 5 лет назад
Any 20round mags for that thing? Seems like there should be especially after the FAL came into the picture
@leneanderthalien
@leneanderthalien 4 года назад
a 20 magazine exists, but was never use in combat from the french...
@superduperbard
@superduperbard 5 лет назад
not an m-14, but about as good, and far more handi dandy
@dogboy0912
@dogboy0912 5 лет назад
Ah yes the Vietcong's first French battle rifle.
@jean-pascalesparceil9008
@jean-pascalesparceil9008 5 лет назад
Vietminh, not yet Vietcong, and MAS 44 and 49 were used by the French Navy and Army in Indochina, but no 49-56. Vietminh regular forces were fitted by the Chicom with US weapons taken in Korea.
@thoschworks
@thoschworks 4 года назад
The French went out of Vietman in 1956 before this rifle was issued.
@DBZ483
@DBZ483 5 лет назад
Weapon performs very well in rising storm 2 Vietnam, scoped or not its a beast
@cassidy109
@cassidy109 5 лет назад
Something I've always wondered, why didn't the French military ever adopt a 20 round magazine for the MAS 49/56? Every other contemporary battle rifle of that era came equipped standard issue with a 20 round mag, i.e. the M14, FAL, CETME/G3, BM59. It like seems a pretty significant oversight for a service rifle that was in service until 1979.
@r.eticdu1371
@r.eticdu1371 4 года назад
This rifle existed, it was the MAS 62. But at the time the cartridges were too powerful and the rifles difficult to control in shooting in bursts. The French Army thought it was ineffective and the English did the same thing with their version of the Fal the L1A1 who only fired one shot at a time. The French general staff equip preferred each combat group (9 men) with a sniper rifle... And the French Army went directly to 5.56 millimeters, which made it possible to economize a generation of rifle.
@rollerco
@rollerco 5 лет назад
where can I get those after market firing pins?
@mikeanders73
@mikeanders73 5 лет назад
Got one of these from a pawn shop for 75.00 about 10 years ago .
@jonathandalton2921
@jonathandalton2921 5 лет назад
congratulations on the book and the on going quality videos ! thanks Ian.
@dbmail545
@dbmail545 5 лет назад
At least two of my fellow gun club members have these. Their reloaded ammo is notorious for slam-fires.
@greasyt9400
@greasyt9400 5 лет назад
dbmail545 troubles with the lost art of setting a primer?
@petebeatminister
@petebeatminister 5 лет назад
dbmail545 - Well, suggest that they change the firing pin as Ian says. Unwanted firing is really not a minor issue. Better spend a few bucks rather than shooting someone accidentally.
@therideneverends1697
@therideneverends1697 5 лет назад
@@petebeatminister Yeah if you are not on a line a slam fire could be super dangerous
@danschneider9921
@danschneider9921 4 года назад
Replaced the firing pin on mine with a titanium one as per Ian's suggestion. Have had zero issues over at least 400 rounds of privi 7.5
@joshmeads
@joshmeads 4 года назад
The French would have been pretty outgunned by the soviets, all with AKMs. They could have added a 20 round mag, which would have mitigated that a little.
@mitch075fr
@mitch075fr 4 года назад
Different doctrine: an AK is made for suppressive firing, and has, by default, rather lousy aim (not that it can't be made to be very precise, but strip it once or twice and you can forget about accuracy). These are semi auto rifles - meaning you shoot at something with the intent to connect.
@joshmeads
@joshmeads Год назад
@@mitch075fr but adding a 20 round mag would have given them an advantage. All other main battle rifles used 20 round mags. This rifle is right out of late WW2. It's the equivalent of the Garand or G43.
@mitch075fr
@mitch075fr Год назад
@@joshmeads probably, yeah - but would the breach support a longer magazine? As a matter of fact, would the rifle handle prolonged auto fire ? Heating, balance and recoil would be affected. The French knew that - development on the FAMAS started in the 1960's for that very reason, but don't forget that the French also had the MAT 49/54 to rely on in the mean time.
@gkarjala
@gkarjala 5 лет назад
Back when I sold guns, we sold MAS. They seemed very good rifle, well worth the money. You got everything with it. That chambering was a thing though. Wish I had kept one.
@chesseastuces9684
@chesseastuces9684 5 лет назад
Nice Clothe. Chemise F1 french army..... ;-)
@AnalogWolf
@AnalogWolf 3 года назад
I own a MAS 49-56 and was totally unaware of the slam fire issue, thanks for letting me know!
@axxaxaax4556
@axxaxaax4556 Год назад
Used it when I was under the flag in 1979-80. Need to say first that I was by this time a 10m compressed air + 50m .22LR competitor (both national level). So when I first use this I was sure it will spread bullets everywhere. Nope! First I used "ballplast" an orange plastic ammo with a brass ring at it's tail. This was for basical training at 50 meters, prone position. I was able to achieve a 14mm H+L at this distance with 5 shots (H for Height and L for Lateral dispersion). It was damn accurate, could have easily competed with top match .22LR rifles. Later, standard "war" ammo at 200 meters, 5 shots, prone position. My H+L was 41mm... As both H+L were beating my unit record, I was granted 2 more days permission. Gun was quite heavy, but relatively compact. Sturdy and reliable: never had a misfire incident. Field stripping was easy. And accuracy was "match grade" even with recruit guns that had shot thousands of ammos. When I was to test the FAMAS I cried! Never liked bullpup configs, but accuracy was poor and over 200 meters and especially when coming to 400 meters, bullets were spreading everywhere, impossible to use! Not to mention that the 7.5 compared to .223 when hitting the target was serious game vs. toy. Most probably one of the reasons for actual US tests to define the new combat rifle are circling around an 8mm caliber...
@lachlanmoore9619
@lachlanmoore9619 5 лет назад
I wonder why the French did not have the rifle in 7.62 NATO. Almost fitting to the likes of the FAL,M14,G3,AR10 ect
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 5 лет назад
I'll explain that next week...
@lachlanmoore9619
@lachlanmoore9619 5 лет назад
@@ForgottenWeapons Oh cheers love to see that coming. Keep up the great work
@tinuraviel9507
@tinuraviel9507 5 лет назад
We retain the same 7.5mm developed during interwar period for stock and fabrication purpose. Plus, this munition was really good as it had similar characteristics to the NATO 7.62 but was kicking slightly less when servicing the gun. Lastly, at that time, we were still using old FN 24/29 LMG and AA52 LMG also in the same caliber. I still saw this rifle and shot it in early 80's while doing military service along MAT49. They were really confortable to shoot, and i kinda missed them when i was given a FAMAS later in my career.
@HaqqAttak
@HaqqAttak 5 лет назад
@@tinuraviel9507 If I understand the only advantage of 7.62 NATO was that new powder allowed more or less the same round in a smaller package.
@lachlanmoore9619
@lachlanmoore9619 5 лет назад
@@tinuraviel9507 Oh interesting. I thought the French would of tried to build slightly upscaled versions of their machine guns and rifles to 7.62 NATO so they can share a standard cartdrige with allies. I guess it would of been cheaper in the long term for the French to wait out for NATO to adopt 5.56 and the French builds the FAMAS and other 5.56 NATO weapons accordingly
@hansmueller3029
@hansmueller3029 4 года назад
The 49/56 became available as surplus in my neck of the woods in maybe the early 90s. Old Western Scrounger was the only dealer who had the ammo and it wasn't cheap. I passed on several good opportunities to buy 1. Really regret the myopia.
@ealtar
@ealtar 5 лет назад
i don't think you have ever done a 2GACM with a mas 49-56 ... ? would be fun ....
@michaelsakmar1814
@michaelsakmar1814 10 месяцев назад
I had one in the '90's that had been rechambered in 7.62 mm Nato that was a bit ammo sensitive!!! Fun little gun, but was traded along quite some time ago! That would explain those little "SUPRISES"!!!
@greyghost4448
@greyghost4448 9 месяцев назад
Sounds like the best possible configuration for a battle rifle in the 1950s. Scope mount, integral grenade sight with gas cutoff, 10-round magazine, flashhider, recoil pad for the butt, flourescent night sight (not shown in this video), bayonet. What more do you want?
@georgesheffield1580
@georgesheffield1580 10 месяцев назад
FYI ,ALL of the basic american artillery during WW2 were origionally French designs ,not British or German or Italian. The 75mm, 90 mm, 105 mm, and 155mm all had their origion in France .
@eddyguizonde401
@eddyguizonde401 5 лет назад
something to know: there is a variant, called the "mas 49/56 gendarmerie". it was naturally chambered not in 7.5 french, but in 7.62 nato. i shot one. best friggin' feeling ever. the buttpad dampens the recoil significantly, it's accurate, it's comfortable, it's a fantastic rifle. there's also i think springfield armory that made a conversion kit, but beware: those mods are rife with malfunctions due to an inadequate gas modification. so if you plan on rechambering your 49/56, get a gunsmith to tune your gun.
@christopher7398
@christopher7398 5 лет назад
Fell in love with this thing as soon as a saw it. Have wanted one ever since
@rickyjones7013
@rickyjones7013 3 месяца назад
Hi Ian I've been watching your channel for the last 6 year's and really like the Mas 49 56 and would like your opinion. Should i get one in 7.5 french or 7.62 nato? I really like the way they look and I also love older firearms so it hit both on my list of firearms. Thanks in advance.
@p3kab00icu
@p3kab00icu 3 года назад
One of my greatest regrets is that I let my buddy talk me into trading my MAS 49/56 for a PA-15. Granted, mine was rebored to 7.62 and dollar for dollar it was probably in my favor. But since I was fortunate to have gotten one that cycled/ functioned very well, the rebore was a welcomed mod. It actually worked better than the PA-15 (which I also got rid of).
@georgesheffield1580
@georgesheffield1580 2 года назад
Actually barrel set back and rechambered ,bore is the same .
@p3kab00icu
@p3kab00icu 7 месяцев назад
Everything I read referred to them as "308 rebores" or "American rebores" (I guess it was slang, like calling a pistol magazine a clip). But they would refer to the process they went through as rechambering.
@mikeryan7468
@mikeryan7468 5 лет назад
Must be great to live in a country that allows you to responsibly own firearms. Another great video.
@HisDudeness2023
@HisDudeness2023 6 месяцев назад
I have one of these. There is no French ammo that I could find and I had to get Pris. It’s slam fires on this ammo I think because the primers are much softer than the French ammo. Mag would rattle off as automatic. Tried a titanium fire pin as it’s such a bad problem for many. Several additional OEM firing pins of steel. Finally filed down the tip of one of the steel ones to increase the surface area and shortened. This mostly worked It is a safe, queen. Anybody else have problems with this POS
@mohammedcohen
@mohammedcohen 3 года назад
...are you aware of the training set/kit issued for these rifles??? I bought one from the now defunct SOG shortly after I bought one of these rifle and a scope NIB from them in the mid/late 90s...lost everything post my 2002 stroke...
@brumsperdraux8066
@brumsperdraux8066 7 месяцев назад
I used MAS 56 during my National Service. I found it sturdy, very easy to shoot as it was quite stable and easier to clean. It is only downsize was it was heavy, a bit tiresome during long marches. As the whole, it is a good infantery rifle, I guess not expensive to produce.
@WalkaCrookedLine
@WalkaCrookedLine 9 месяцев назад
I have a "thing" for rifle grenades, and love the way the French continued to push the concept quite a while after WW2 ended. The tube launch grenades favored today have their advantages, but can't launch a warhead big enough to be a serious anti-tank weapon. If I had my say we (the USA) would be issuing muzzle launched AT grenades at the rate of at least one launcher and two grenades per fire team in any kind of urban or close terrain.
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