Fred Durst and Limp Bizkit File Shocking $200 Million Lawsuit 

No he looks like one of those dwarfs in your garden !

Same, now i dont feel bad

Just For Men For Beards bro.

True story.

I guess you haven't seen the live footage over the past few years? Grandpa Fred. 😁

Didn't victory records pull this?

Because they all signed the contracts

​@@chaosclgSure they did...but a class-action suit would prompt 'discovery' which would issue in a forensic audit of these sleezballs books, revealing just how underhanded and contrived the 'accounting' has been, and how it was designed to NEVER benefit the creators of the product. A contract that was designed to STEAL from its signee can be deemed illegitimate by any corporate lawyer worth her paycheck!

Didn’t Ed Sheeran do that with streaming a few years ago with other artists?

@@robertmuckle2985 if you agree to it and sign a contract it aint stealing 😂

It's not surprising at all honestly. They really believe they control the Universe and can do whatever they want.. that's why they call themselves that...

No doubt, and it’s amazing when a label tries to run from their own contract. Usually the other way around if you don’t fulfill it. I hope he gets his money, as it also breaks doors down for other bands as well.

they deserve nothing

@@Beavisofficial *pats for Patrick* -you tried.

@@Curdledmayonnaise All corporations in the US are corrupt A.F. They all have their government backdoor deals and they keep the system in motion, with the sidecash flowing. It will be the end of this country. Greed and corruption runs rampant in DC. See past 4 years... If you didn't notice it before you certainly are noticing it now. Trump2024 🇺🇸

It took him 20 years to realize he wasn't getting paid... I don't believe that for a second

100% classaction

Just like when record company pushing for streaming services and wants physical records to disappear. With streaming artist gets even smaller royalties and the way they count the sales is even more shady and confusing. Its been discussed by Rick Beato .

@@bigjermboktown6976 it's more like they kept telling him this and that and kicking the can, and in the grand scheme of things most acts make their money on the tours over the albums, so it's not usually something they'd put a lot of thought into. Plus 20 years ago artists still kinda needed labels, these days if you have enough stacked you can do everything independent. It's probably not even about the raw cash as it is getting control back over all of the catalog.

I was never into them until a month ago. Saw a live video . “ limp biscuit Maxwell”. Fred was singing and reads a sign a kid was holding. Fred invited him on stage. And Fred somehow orchestrated a rap thing between them. That kept amping and amping up to one of the best performances . It’s odd I can’t stand rap type music But It was his way of on the spot arranging and directing a kid and the band that got that rocked the stadium. He made a dream come true for a kid . And at the end of the Fred. Gives the kids dad a nod. You got to watch it . Let me know what u think. It was the ultimate combo for fans kid Fred band and dad

That may be the final nail in the coffin for these music labels.

It needs to.

LMAO

😂 was a bit of a surprise wasn't it?

😂

LL Kool Rock

They call me Jaws, my hat is like a shark's fin

I agree. As we are now learning, they are “screwing the talent” literally and figuratively.

Yet, people get paid Billions to kick a ball around a field

they not also screwing talents.... they also screw little children for rituals.

Exactly. I dread to think about how many talented artists have been put off by a career in music for this exact fact

research the small hats.

Agreed and the big executives wouldn’t be making their 6+ figures a year

They deserve nothing less.

7 figures.

9 figures. CEO: Taking into account other short-term and long-term incentives and benefits, Grainge's total 2023 compensation is 138,814,000 euros or $128,264,000

@shabblabbat that's ONE year's pay for Lucian ladies and gentlemen and don't expect this year's to be one cent less.

It's true! The "360 deals" where the label gets a cut from EVERYTHING the band makes: ticket sales, merch, etc... I remember a documentary where different artists/bands talked about the contract they signed with their label. Before the digital age, the labels paid (and charged the band) for the CD production but also for shipping. Some CDs always got damaged during shipping, so they also accounted for that loss. Even though they no longer make CDs, a lot of labels still charge the bands for shipping and for "product loss during shipping"! Can you believe that?! This is just one example that I remember but they mentioned a lot of shady things like that. They make a 100 page long contract and somewhere in the middle, they add these clauses, hoping they'll get away with it if no one notices...

He spent his first million on cocaine. He got ripped off but he still was making money back then.

He made lots of money and spent it on drugs.

That's a lot of cocaine

Record labels, clear channel radio monopoly, and the ticket master monopoly

Steel dragon 😂

Yeah!

So he’ll do it, my way, or the highway?

Love it but that bit of hate. Their first three albums were all SO GOOD!

BRO NEEDS TO GET PAID

IMMEDIATELY

That's sad 😔. Mdfkrs

So they what- lived off merch sales for 20 years? How does one not notice all that money just- not there?

I'll take a wes borland riff over a tim henson riff any day of the week.

Why do you feel compelled to say you're not a fan? No one cares dude 😂

I don't know which is worse. His music or the music industry

​@sentientcardboarddumpster7900 because his band and music Sux. I would say the same thing. And I have

​@sentientcardboarddumpster7900 that's probably why they haven't received their full pay 😂

​​@@sentientcardboarddumpster7900because they're cringelords. People care, if you listen to thrm you probably woupd listen to a ything and novody wants to be associated with that😅😅

Metallica should ask to see Kid Rock's books for royalties on using their riff for 0ne of his most popular songs 😆The good thing is Metallica owns their label and the rights to all their music. They bought it all long ago so they'd only be suing themselves 😁

Thankfully Metallica has been independent for a while now, the others should've done the same if possible.

How did they go 20 years without noticing tens of millions of dollars missing from their lives?

@@Gregbaltzer I’m sure Spotify isn’t paying them anything near what they deserve

@@ronwilliams1094 that's probably true with every artist but Drake and Taylor Swift.

I had a pretty shady deal back in 2009 myself. it blows my mind when they look back at you with the "I can't believe you said no" face. like they are a god to us and we should just say "yes" insert Rollin eye face.

Tell us you don’t understand how record deals work without telling us 🤦🏻‍♂️

@@aronbaumel Lol. Ok, then enlighten us on how they work. 😆

@@Scyber_Official I have several times in the comments. Scroll. It’s not “10% of your royalties”. They were offering you a royalty rate of 10%. A typical deal back in the day was 13% (13 points) based on wholesale price less returns, free goods, etc. producers usually got 1 of those points Artists get an advance inclusive of the recording budget, which is recoupable out of artist’s share of royalties (not off the top). Tour support, video budget, outside radio promo, etc. were also advanced by the label and recoupable. Bands almost never recouped. If they weren’t successful they couldn’t sell enough records to pay back the advance. If they were successful the label would keep spending more on marketing to push sales… and if it really broke then the artist would renegotiate their advance for the next record. Royalty reporting is always 2 quarters behind, so as a practical matter the label is always advancing successful artists money whether cash advances, renting houses, cars, private jets, etc. pushing back recoupment. Even as the royalty rate was negotiated upwards, the advance cash always outpaced royalties. Royalties really only mattered for heritage/catalog artists that consistently sold back catalog and weren’t making new records. Of course rock bands usually wrote their own songs so they also received their mechanical royalties of approx. $1 per record (75% controlled comp. rate) paid to writer and publisher… how much the artist kept depended on how big of an advance they took on their publishing deal. With Bizkit, Interscope spent huge sums breaking them and gave them an enormous advance ($7M) after their 3 record was a hit… and then they had 3 massively expensive records flop and they were dropped in 2011. They didn’t sell a whole lot of records or rack up a lot of streams for 11 years after later after they did the Lollapalooza reunion show. It’s not like they were ripped off. They were paid a lot of money. It’s also more complicated because they weren’t signed to Interscope… they were signed to Fred’s imprint so there was probably cross collaboration with the other bands - winners and losers - on their imprint.

Nonsense. Millions in music if you're in the right genre. I think that rockers and metal guys need to stick up for themselves and get paid the money they deserve too, just like those poppy teenage girl singers do. So you mean to tell me pop singers and rappers deserve disgusting amounts of money, and people in rock and roll don't get paid at all??? No effing way.

There is money in it in some respect I'm sure, but to be honest I haven't paid for an album in at least 5 years because I can just watch any of the music I'm into for free on YT. I know a few people who have Spotify subscriptions and buy stuff from Apple Music and whatever, but not many. I suppose they make money from YT views/ads, but I doubt most of them are making a whole lot from that. They probably made a lot more back in the day when people had to actually buy the physical album, but it seems like everyone who signs with a label is getting screwed over. There are independent musicians who are doing great without labels as well. Ryan Upchurch is a good example.

Touring is where they make their money

@@gargamel3393 youre part of the problem.

​@@trophyscene5015 you think pop stars are getting paid fairly too? Most of their money comes from commercials or selling their own products

You mean UMG, right? AMG was a car company????

Unless he means AIG ​@@georgeprice4212

@@georgeprice4212 Either way it's about time Mercedes got slammed for turning AMG from sports cars to just a higher trim with pansy 4 cylinder hybrids.

Durst won’t do that , guaranteed

@@miserycodebeats1722 he’s saying that he’ll be assassinated 🤦‍♂️

@@miserycodebeats1722 yeah I’m saying that the record labels don’t like being challenged and it wouldn’t be the first time one of their artists suddenly dies and they make even more money on posthumous albums…

_"Now I know why UMG wanna hate me, cuz hate is all the world has even seen lately."_ *Fred Durst, 2024*

@@Tennessee_est1983 that’s a stretch , but could be on to something !

Are you accounting for the retailers, because they get 50% of all album sales?

@@Gregbaltzer So what is half of 600,000,000?

@@ChozoBrain My question is directed at him as to whether he is taking in retailers cut before calculating revenue generated for the label.

Production and manufacturing also

Regardless of production, manufacturing and retail costs, they should be getting paid a lot of money based on record sales.

what's sad is so many rock stars seem to mysteriously die young too, whilst managers have a lifetime of full earnings from their music.

@@aurora6920 Michael Jackson is a prime example. He was telling everyone close to him that they were going to kill him and he was dead within a few days of saying that. Conrad Murray was just a Fall Guy so Sony could get Michael Jackson's half that he owns back. He literally said to people they're going to kill me for my publishing

It's called the death clause.

Michael jackson too ,look where they ended up

@@kulentarian55 exactly!! Another prime example. Poor MJ!

That's the same thing I said... And it took me 2 seconds to realize it. I mean it took him 20 years to realize he wasn't getting paid I don't believe that for a second

Yeah, something's a bit off. 20 years waiting for money? No way.

The sad part is Fred has always been a champion for people without a voice, the kids who got bullied, the outcasts, and losers. He leaned into that douchebag/frat boy label he was given as part of the act to throw everyone off the fact he's a genuinely cool dude, and just doesn't care what you think of him, but he never deserved all those years of hate. So glad to see them finally getting some true recognition for who they really are. Which is really just a bunch of cool dudes who make awesome music.

@@fleatactical7390 Bands get money in advance, so they can record their albums, make videos and so on. And the artists get royalties after the initial investments the lables made are payed back. So they have money from the advances, merch, tours and such, but they never got any royalties.

They sold millions of records up until 2003. They also took enormous advances after that huge success. Then they had 3 very expensive bombs, were dropped by 2011, and haven’t sold anywhere near enough records in the decade after to come close to recouping. It’s only after the success following Lollapalooza 2 years ago that they’ve had the kind of streaming activity to recoup… and that’s why no one was paying much attention until now. This is a routine audit dispute that will be settled.

It isn't mysterious, it's out in the open. Everyone knows who it goes to, WTF are you talking about?!

gotta Know Your Enemy

Could you imagine telling people in 1998 that Rage Against The Machine would become Rage For The Machine.

Dam what happened to ratm?

​@@nameputhpong9041nothing nothing happened to rage against the machine they're still anti-government entire establishment just like they will always be

​@@NuMetalfan1996 The machine is capitalism not public health processes. JFC 🤦🤣

well said mate

a lot of us didnt know until the internet.

Cds would be 40 bucks today... inflation...

Live shows are the only way bands can make a buck nowadays, they also have to pay for the venue, crew, and set out of pocket. The labels no longer put up funds for tours now

@@preciseaudioblogworth it when you think about how we used to wear the living hell out of our CD’s from so many listens.

@@QUINTtastic True. Besides, recordings used to be way better... today’s recordings suck... cheers!

@@preciseaudioblog Yep.. quantizing, time align, pitch correction, etc. Barf.

Exactly. 💯%.

And then wait for the avalanche of other bands getting in on it.

That when it comes to cash, I’ve been getting smoked

Lendin’ out muh money now I’m broke

Somebody's gettin' choked

that was for napster,not people buying albums and cds.which people continued to do

@@waynesmith-r8cwhich is much worse, stealing music.

napster made me buy tons of records because i could actually hear tracks from bands i wouldnt have normally be interested in......

Why don't you put that VIP name out here. Get your revenge that way at least.

Not with Fred and Bizkit, it won't go that way.

no one care

​@@sebg2086you missed the joke bud

@@sebg2086 You dropped your S(lipknot)

@@corrupted_realmno… nobody really cares what CoReY TaYLor has to say😂

@@sebg2086yeah seriously nobody cares

They are still millionaires.

@@Shadowx011 They should be, quite frankly

I give up, who?

✡️

JOOOOOOOOZ

lol

​@@Porsche35645anyone with the last name of Goldstein 😂