@@bangbangrayhill2218 Albert said it publicly! He put it on them all, Joe, Shaw, Eddie, Fraser and all of them still alive. Unlike others I could mention who wait til people die then throw their names up. Who could that be? 🤨
@@donalddorman17 yep most were alive when albert made that video and non of them spoke up and said it was 5hit. Most of rays good comments come from the same people all the time. Ray did too much bird to know all about what he talks about so it's mostly hearsay from ray. Tickles me when he talks about jimmy tipoet putting on proper loons. Jimmy lost 10 fight out of 33 and was a lightweight and he put it on the bomb and the bomb bottled it ffs. Mind you the bombs dead like lenny they can't speak for themselves no more so its easy to say anything you want about them.
So Shaw and Pyle got pissed and thought they could put it on Albert? But ended up running to Fred for some help? Then the 4 bully boys stuck it on him.......4 tough men who didn't fancy Albert on a 1 to 1. If this is a true story then Roy and Joe go down a peg in my esteem.
Yep ..& the fact that “The Governor Roy Shaw” & one of Englands biggest gangsters Joey Pile had to call on Ronnie & Freddie to go handle Albert proves that they were all pretty much weary of him!! 🤷🏻♂️
In the video of Ronnie Krays funeral. Albert Reading was there standing in line to see Reggie. Back than in 1995 he was a pretty big bloke and very mean looking 👀.
Yes i seen a video Albert reading saying how he used the Acid. I can't remember who the person was. But they said they would never enter his pub again. Apparently there was smoke coming off him with everything burning. The old bill thaught it was a bit barbaric 👌🙏🏴
Alright H, I remember as a kid having an "UNCLE" (your dad's mate😎) 6ft odd, always wore a suit (the best, Sav Row, etc, London connections) smoked a pipe, drove a Jaguar, looked v dapper, but was v dangerous, the point am making, he ALWAYS carried a acid spray in a handkerchief in his front top suit pocket 💦😱. Same fella was an absolute gentleman 👍
I gotta give Albert 100% respect! Shaw, Pile ,Foreman & Oliffe!🤷🏻♂️ I don’t believe that he went “white as a ghost” ..Albert is a very proud man & ain’t gonna back down to any man!!
I remember this story it went down exactly as Ray said, except the last bit Albert took the number that evening instead of ringing Joe. Albert rang Len and told him the Koo. As Joe and Lenny went back a long way, Lenny called Mr Pyle and insisted that Albert was extreamy sorry for the incident in his pub, he got very defensive as it was his pub, he apologies for any offence caused. Joe said about that other thing, Len said don't worry Joe I have it sorted I'd never let you down ❤. As an exiting comment Len said to Joe " I'd appreciate if that was the end of it . A few months later Roy came back to Alberts pub on his own and had a good drink with Albert , and became good friends . That's what it means to be the Guv'nor Ray ❤ thanks for reading
@@user-zp5ji1uq1h I was told the story by Albert's nephew Scouse Jimmy Andrews who was in Lens inner circle. 👍 That's got more provenance than my friend called me on the phone, to remind me somebody else told me the story, so I'm telling you. 😂
This berk talks shit he said Lenny, put his head down when he put it on him 😂 Lenny was around the Nash brothers and Arthur Thompson and Ritchie Anderson him and Jimmy Tibet not in the same league .
Ray the blokes albert had behind him at the time would not of been worried about anyone whatsoever all 3 were from custom house and young and absolutely fearless and are now top of the tree. So whoever told you this tale is obviously wrong.
You've got to think, they were up and coming New School, Old School where more "Let's sort this out, put a lid on it, we're all just trying to make a pound note", a lot of GENTS in the old school MOSTLY all could have a fight, would bring it to your face for a fight on the cobbles, The New School where totally the opposite, they didn't come toe to toe, they didn't need to be able to fight ,as The Game was changing, so were the players, Old School MOSTLY, had to roll over and move on, they were becoming FOOD to the HUNGRY New School, who would kidnap your kids and shoot your bird in the leg, they wouldn't do it themselves they'd send 17yr old kids, so you are quite right and as you know with old stories, how it looked and sounded to one person could be totally different to the next, and both could be wrong.
@@Abadger77777 💯 right mate. Albert could of called upon Bobby and many many more from custom house and canning town who would of not worried about anyone. Rays stuck in the past like saying lightweight jimmy tippet who lost 10 out of 36 fights put it on the bomb and the bomb swallowed ( absolutely cobblers ) but rays getting a few quid so just take most of what he says with a bucket of salt. Rays in the past stuck people up has grasses and bacon's so like I said pinch of salt
@@user-zp5ji1uq1h my folks are romany gypsy from that Manor.. we don't miss a thing brother...our family are good stock used to trade with that lot..fair play to ray his getting a few quid which I don't begrudge no man .truth or not ..godbless have a lovely weekend.. Yeh like he was doing work for a few folk when it went wrong but he doesn't mention that at the end of the day his a good man..don't agree with him putting up a statement in nick then taking it back..we all make mistakes but in the life u can't.and we forgive 🙏
@@Abadger77777 like I said he is nicking a few quid so fare play but he got to look into stuff he posts ( he has made some proper rickets saying things ) and you being a man of the world know shit You or family still got a vardo ?
Anyone remember the issue between Freddie and Eddie Richardson that goes back decades? Fred claims to have put a gun up Eddie Richardson's nose for taking a liberty with a friend of his. There were words exchanged between the two (both pensioners by then) at a funeral of one of the train robber's. Who do you believe? One say's it happened and the other say's it never. Both very staunch men with big reputations, but they can't both be right!
Dear Mr Hill. Where did you get the info that Foreman spoke to Eddie Richardson about any of this. I was at Tommy Wisbey's funeral and Eddie told Foreman the deal. Eddie did not have any minders with him but Foreman had about 5 men looking after him. Foreman was the first one to leave the chapel and did not go to the wake. Eddie was one of the last to leave the chapel & the wake. Eddie was bigger and better than the lot of them put together.
When did this happen because the pub Albert Reading had Hornchurch the Spencer’s Arms he had in late 80s to nearly early 90s he mentioned that Shawey and Pyle was trying to get something out of him in a video with Liam Galvin it wasn’t that clear but he give them some verbal I don’t see why Foreman and Oliffe would have got involved Foreman was in Spain in the 80s on the run and when he was brought back was in jail until 1995.
Fred hated Eddie. He stepped out of line once and got got his pal shot. No one will believe this story, albert and his brother wouldn't back down in that way.
Really Ray did he?What else did he say? What else Ray?? 😂😂😂🧐 What else will you remember tomorrow you think?? Stop this you. It’s obvious bollocks. ‘Albert turned white…’ 🙄 😳😳🤦🏻♂️
This reminds me of tge tome a fight broke out in the old biscuit barrel..Bandit hit the Penguin over the head with a Club and made a Breakaway in a Taxi. 5 old School biscuits there retro
Freddie Foreman is the Godfather, and Joey Pyle and Ronnie oliffe, proper names of the past, Fred's in his 90s now living in a home, but I bet he's still sharp as a tack, and everyone knows that the other two woulda been ironed out if it wasn't for Fred, cos he was mate's with Charlie, but if they hadn't of been sent to jail, Freddie and his crew and whatta crew of dangerous men 👀, but they were gonna iron them out, going to jail definitely saved their lives. Just imagine bumpin into, Brown bread , Alf Gerrard, and Ronnie Oliffe, and the Callaghan fella, can't remember his first name, on a dark night out on some work, i bet you'd need a change of kex 😆, but yeah proper crew of dangerous men, but there was plenty of other dangerous individuals. ✌🏻😎.
Right listen to me now old boy, Albert was my great grandad.. ive heard the story's amd im telling you know what you said is a mockery.. never happened. He coukd have a straightener with the best of em. Unlike yiu 😂 wheres all the footages of you fighting and knocking people out ay? Now if you portray yourself influenced about 'people' you know or been around then you'd know, if a bigger man rocks up them you do em hands or chemicals. My grandad was a real man . Let me ask You wheres the footage of your existence ay? Please show me 😅😅
Big up bullshit bullshit hill RIP YAMMY B Hope they charged them who shot Dave Courtney you always first with a story.and never let facts get in the way RESPECT
I'm saying Eddie Richardson if it was back in the old school error. Respect your reply. Everyone knows brown bread 🍞 Fred is been at the top since before the Krays to today. Hope you're Friday is a good yin 👍🥊 Jim
@@JimRennix74 Your right mate, it was horses for courses, and no one man or one firm ever ran London, Different manors had different governors at different times, but all seemed to interact and intermingle over the years.
@@JimRennix74 Was Eddie a stone cold killer? There were some very hard men back in those days but not all those hard men are prepared to take another man's life. We all know know what Sir Freddie Foreman was capable of. What's more scary getting the granny smashed out of you or taking your last breath?
@@Abadger77777 yeah he grassed up a few people on a liberty its all documented in tiberius report a document that shouldnt have leaked onto the internet.
@@Abadger77777 me personally no I dont, it was to do with the Terry gooderham and Maxine Arnold case, he believed the killers took a liberty killing a woman, so in fairness hes still old school even when it came to informing.
