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Free as in free time; the freedom less mentioned by free software evangelists.

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I'm a thirteen year linux user. From SuSE, to slackware, to gentoo for ten years - and then to debian on my laptop. I use it for my FTP server, I use it for my personal laptop, and until now, as a video editing/capture platform.
I love free software, but one thing I don't love is fanboyism. I do not like when people put their priorities over mine, and tell me what it is I should prioritize. One should respect the priorities of others.
It is often said there are two types of freedom when it comes to software- free as in free beer, and free as in free speech. I would like to introduce a third freedom which is rarely discussed among free software zealots - free as in free time.
If a closed source solution guves me more of this treasured, limited resource, and allows me to spend more of it where it really matters - is it really taking away from my freedom?
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@shazud 4 года назад

*insert BTW I use arch meme here*

@roborobo8370 3 года назад

Btw I use Linux from scratch.

@Usertrappedindatabase 3 года назад

@@roborobo8370 I use Artix(OpenRC) Linux btw

@roborobo8370 3 года назад

@@Usertrappedindatabase btw I use Ubuntu 22.10

@angusorvid8840 3 года назад

I just manifest Linux through my own willpower. Totally barebone Linux. It starts out completely invisible, and I have to use my psychic power to detect where it is.

@JasonSHPang 3 года назад

I use Artix (Runit) Linux btw!

@hblaub 6 лет назад

On the hardware side, you want "the right to repair". On the software side, we NEED "the right to repair", too! (At least for old software not maintained anymore) If a lot of Linux people are using MacBooks, they will find these bugs easily and fix them. If nobody provides them with a Surfacebook, for example, they will not fix it, because users usually don't report these bugs in any reproducible and understandable way!

@hblaub 3 года назад

@windson7 Donate your older devices to open source developers, so they can develop software for it.

@jorymil 4 года назад

Right tool for the job. I love running Linux for web browsing, programming, for networking tasks, for its ability to run virtual machines, containers, just about any type of internet server and now that HTML 5 video is standard everywhere, even for its ability to watch video online (couldn't say that back in the day!). I'm a Linux professional, however: I really enjoy working with it, believe in it, and there's usually some benefit to my professional skillset by doing something hard with it that would be easier with other OSes/tools. Telling someone that they _must_ use it, however, is kind of like telling someone they need to drive a particular car that doesn't suit them: they'll just get mad at both the car and me. Tools should always serve people, not the other way around.

@iusegentoobtw 3 года назад

This. I'm also an enthusiast, and it allows me to do so many things that I would otherwise be unable to do. But so much of this I now do in virtualization or wsl because of quality of life, and poor hardware performance for doing similar tasks to this video. Linux is amazing, but it sucks where it sucks. Open source sucks sometimes, so does closed source, and I would rather not have a completely FOSS ecosystem nor a completely closed source one.

@MarciCow 7 лет назад

I used to think that way until I had to spend a whole week cleaning our Windows network of a computer virus.

@worldhello1234 6 лет назад

You can get viruses on Linux too. There are means to protect yourself from that. Nothing has 0 drawbacks.

@alanmay6401 5 лет назад

@@worldhello1234 the difference is still vast. Anything can be exploited. But code open to public scrutiny tends to be more secure. Though I complety acknowledge that user base plays a huge role for predators, giving open source an edge.

@ILovePancakes24 3 года назад

@@worldhello1234 A virus on linux is incredibly rare.

@eirikmurito 3 года назад

@@worldhello1234 there are viruses for linux but lets be real if you have a linux machine youre not gonna get a virus..

@NateROCKS112 3 года назад

@@ILovePancakes24 this is primarily the case because GNU/Linux isn't the most popular OS. If you're a malicious actor who wants to target the most users, you'd make a virus for Windows. This is also why macOS doesn't generally have as many viruses. Plus, well, the fact that Windows is a buggy piece of shit.

@kisielthe1st 9 лет назад

Your point about open source community not being able to provide commercial-quality tools is absolutely true and I'm not even going to argue with you about that. However the open source community is not to blame for the fact that you can't get hardware acceleration going on your high-end GPU. This is purely AMD's fault since they refuse to make good quality drivers for it. Actually drivers for your GPU are as closed source as Windows or the equivalent drivers for it. They're not bad because someone with little experience made them, they're bad because the company that made them doesn't give a fuck. They're of course not the only company that does it and I can understand it's because Linux users for AMD/Nvidia is in fact a niche market but hey, Intel got their GPU drivers right. They're not as powerful as dedicated GPUs but because Intel decided to actually make them open, they just fucking work. Like right out of the box, you don't even have to install them. The only thing that stops dedicated GPUs from working properly on Linux is the companies that made them.

@rossmanngroup 9 лет назад

+kisielthe1st I agree with you.

@Karutsen 8 лет назад

+Louis Rossmann If more people would actually be using Linux, there would be better driver and software support for it. It's a kind of paradoxical situation: people won't use Linux for its lack of certain software and drivers (while it has so many advantages for even average users) and then this small marketshare does not encourage the companies to publish Linux versions of their software and drivers. While I perfectly understands the troubles associated with certain user needs it's an odd situation. It needs a critical mass of people who will endure this disadvantage with Linux for a while for software companies to come aboard and get Linux version released. A market share of 10% maybe? Default installation on PCs would help a lot. Many average users simply use Windows because it's installed. And the average user who spends 80% of their time in the browser does not need Windows-specific advantages - how many of the average users do video editing on a regular basis?! . There should be more companies that ship Linux by default for consumers while ensuring that the software and drivers fit the hardware (the reason why Apple productions work so well.) With Lenovo products that sort happens, even though not intended by Lenovo. I have not a single hardware issue with Linux on my Lenovo machines.

@ThegamerIdiotgenius 8 лет назад

+Louis Rossmann Even Linus Torvalds himself admits that using the best tool for the job is more important, though usually he can code his own if needed (which most people can't do, sadly.) Just look at how Git got created. It's my belief that we as Linux need to win by being actually a better working product, not just by our ideas. Until then, forcing it onto people is just going to give them negative feelings about it. Maybe someday video editing will catch up and Elementary OS will work better than OS X, but until then, people NEED OS X and there's nothing wrong with that.

@worldhello1234 6 лет назад

"while it has so many advantages for even average users" Like wasting time to learn the syntax.

@onetwo2932 4 года назад

Yeah, its Device manufacturers fault as they are developing device driver only for Windows.....

@FourOf92000 3 года назад

Out-of-the-box has improved _so_ much in the five years since this came out. I'd love to see a rehash of this topic.

@iusegentoobtw 3 года назад

Not really lmao. Broadcom chipsets are still the norm on many boards or wireless receivers you buy. Vaapi development is still practically useless. Wayland becoming the default on some distros introduces even more breakage. Using Nvidia? Hope you using a popular distro, otherwise you're gonna have bad time. I can't think of anything that has changed out of the box in the past 5 years besides gtk getting heavier and QT getting lighter. There are some that are better than ootb 5 years ago, namely pop, mx, zorin, and endeavor, but who installs those after googling 'best beginners linux distro.'? One thing I always try to inform people of is that Microsoft is the largest contributor to Open-Source by a huge margin. Apple? 41st largest contributor. M$ essentially owns the Linux foundation at this point, so anyone that has an ego in defending linux is largely misguided. Same with Firefox, but that's a different story.

@yasserarguelles6117 2 года назад

I still have to fuck around with WiFi drivers and compile them myself, my GPU is Nvidia so yea and I've also had repeated crashes on both Ubuntu and Fedora

@shawno8253 Год назад

Oh so I can use adobe on linux?

@FourOf92000 Год назад

@@shawno8253 why would you want to

@psycho3324 Год назад

Oh no it's still trash. It's not gonna get better. the best thing i can say is that development stuff complains 10x less here than on WSL. and that's why i use it. Linux is at it's best when you're asking it to do what it does best. run programs setup by your sysadmin or containers. Linux is at it's worst when you use it as a daily OS. If you're a student, you'll wrestle with screen sharing, better hope it doesn't crash mid presentation. If you're an artist, you'll wrestle trying to add kernel modules for drawing tablets from github, then spend ages working out how to run clip studio paint only to give up. If you're an editor, you'lll wrestle with the fact Resolve lacks AAC support and debugging latency issues with pipewire. If you're a musician, you'll spend hours reading how JACK works, and hours debugging latency issues. If you're a streamer, god bless. you have everyone's issues and more. Proton, Wine and Lutris will be your mortal enemies. finding out version xyz of Wine had a regression that breaks a game, then hacking a way to get xyz.1 because the repositories for that were last updated a year ago. or Proton 5.6x doesn't work in x game but version 5.5 does. If you're a teacher, you'll quickly find out the world runs on the Office suite, and that Microsoft teams drains your battery like no tomorrow because surprise surprise no video decode on a GPU. If you're a game dev, oh Unity for Linux has these glaring shader issues with no fix in sight. My experience: Hardware video decode is still in the windows 95 era, i accept the increased drain on my battery for my sanity. Hibernate needs the user to find the swapfile offset, add it to grub and update it and install an extension, why is this not just done? and getting either to work can mean an entire afternoon of frustration. nvidia gpus are still hit or miss for everything. Screen sharing on Wayland is so iffy i went back to X11, if an X11 session crashes you'll see black then back to normal. if a Wayland session crashes you're screwed. games on Proton are hit or miss if it works on your particular setup, with your particular distro, with your particular modifications, with your particular graphics driver. Lutris has given me so much pain of things just seg faulting because the nvidia gpu is not properly handling the offload. oh the fix turns out to be adding this exception on /etc/bla/bla/conf.d, Forums don't help either. Davinci Resolve, the finest video editor on Linux. lacks AAC audio support. YES YOU WONT HAVE AUDIO ON YOUR TIMELINE. You gotta use ffmpeg to transcode it to PCM first. then on the export use ffmpeg again to get it back to AAC. Don't use it folks. as much as the idea of free software for everyone is. it's never going to work out.

@aggserp4340 3 года назад

I just had to waste one hour of my life because of a Windows security update that decided it would get stuck and hog my CPU & hard drive (and yes, I'm poor and my hardware is from 2013) Ubuntu has worked perfectly for me with literally zero errors since day one. Updates take a few minutes at most and the OS gets faster with every new version. I've installed Linux on a wide variety of hardware and it's worked without a hitch. Obviously things like Arch took me a while to install but after that it's all smooth sailing. An Ubuntu install takes like 10 minutes with pre-installed drivers and no account BS. I honestly used to believe in this "Linux isn't free if you value your time" crap before I used it, because I was an idiot who believed all the others who spread this nonsense around with no factual evidence. But after having to deal with Microsoft's shitty programming for decades I think I'm finally done wasting my time with Windows. I can't speak for macOS, I don't own a Mac and likely never will because they are expensive and I do not support Apple's business practices.

@Account.for.Comment 2 года назад

How was it on games, vpns, software programs to run projectors, cameras and so forth? I liked to learn Linux because I despised Windows Update and Bullshite but I have only a limited number of computers to test trial with a new skillset. With Windows, whatever stuff I bought, there is a program for. How do you cope with it in Linux?

@aggserp4340 2 года назад

@@Account.for.Comment As far as I know projectors and VPNs work perfectly fine. Games are a little rough but I don't play games on my PC too much anymore and Proton is getting better every day. Steam Deck is coming out soon too and that is helping for sure. If you use some very specialised hardware then support could be an issue, printers especially are a huge PITA, but other than that things mostly work straight out of the box. By comparison, in Windows I always had to look for a bunch of drivers for sound, Wi-Fi, graphics etc. after install.

@BullCheatFR 3 года назад

Free as in free time: I don't spend hours on the internet looking for dependencies.

@eirikmurito 3 года назад

Linux users generally dont seem to get that you can enjoy linux without exaggerating about how good it is. In my experience its slower than windows and theres often problems with drivers and function keys and the mouse clicks doesnt always register. If people were actually open about the problems then the developers would probably work on fixing them..

@UseQPixinDune 2 года назад

Or maybe you're just in the minority here

@bioemiliano Год назад

Most big linux programs that try to imitate windows are usually shit. Minimalist for the win

@UseQPixinDune Год назад

@@bioemiliano Not trying to imitate windows but Emacs is fire

@skreutzer 8 лет назад

Free software is about the free time gained by not being forced to reinvent the wheel over and over again. I think no one can imagine the amount of hours of valuable developer and life time wasted on reverse engineering, workarounds, writing alternatives. All of this just because the legislator with his pre-digital mindset decided to make computer programs copyrightable as if they were works of literature for entertainment purposes. Instead, they are works of practical use and therefore whoever obtains a program should be entitled to obtain the corresponding source code too, and to do with it whatever he/she wants. The concept of selling restricted usage licenses is comparable to a soap vendor who wants to dictate that his soap can only be used at certain hours of the day, while the soap customer is perfectly capable to use the soap at any hour of the day (that is: to make and distribute copies). It's like an electronics manufacturer who doesn't publish schematics where it is way to hard to work on the machine without. Everybody looses if the general public and other companies don't have the freedom to look at the schematics and fix/extend/build upon them. I'm sure you understand the implications of throwing money on the one or the other ecosystem and the majority not valuing their freedom pretty well. Should the observation that I'm not good enough at soldering necessarily lead to the conclusion that repair is impossible and that I have to buy a new device from the original manufacturer?

@worldhello1234 6 лет назад

Copyright it a different story but I can't tell why someone who writes software for a living should give it away for free, especially the important part, the source code. You would probably would not demand free products and labour in the physical world but information should be free for you. "Everybody looses if the general public and other companies don't have the freedom to look at the schematics and fix/extend/build upon them." Not everybody.

@ziomalisty 6 лет назад

I use Debian on a daily basis but it's usually a lot faster and easier to use Wine and a Windows version of an app then compiling this app under Linux with gcc. Then compiling there is always something wrong. There is always a library missing, or in wrong version or some system setting is not set properly or the file access rights are wrong... And there are almost never any binaries for Linux that work. Sometimes there are no binaries, sometimes binaries for 64bit Debian 9 don't work on 64bit Debian 9. Don't get my wrong- I like open source. I released a lot of my programs and libraries as open source. But even open source works better on Windows. On Windows I have VLC, ffmpeg, Firefox, LibreOffice and much more.

@NateROCKS112 4 года назад

@@worldhello1234 "I can't tell why someone who writes software for a living should give it away for free, especially the important part, the source code" 1. Free software is free as in freedom. You can offer your software for a fee so long as you give the user the 4 essential freedoms , including source code. 2. If your company's business model relies on denying people the freedom to distribute information, then that's a bad business model. Any companies that deny people freedom should find a different business model. We can let the free hand of the market do the work, and if software companies cannot find a business model that works, then there will be no software companies. Fine. I don't care. Also, there are companies that provide free software. See Red Hat for an example. > "You would probably would not demand free products and labour in the physical world but information should be free for you." If we're talking free as in freedom, hell yes I demand free products and labor. You have the right to _not_ work for me. You have the right to _not_ sell your physical product to me. I have the right to tinker with that product you just sold to me. I have the right to add on to your labor. You do not have the right to tell me for whom I can work. You do not have the right to tell me what I can and cannot do with a piece of hardware that I own. Comparing this to software, you have the right to not distribute your software. I have the right to tinker with your software, and I have the right to have the tools necessary to tinker with that software (the source code.) Part of Louis Rossman's right to repair movement is that third party repair shops, while theoretically able to repair devices, are practically unable to because _they are legally barred from using parts and schematics._ Freedom 1 (of the FSD) is designed to give you the "parts" and "schematics" required to repair and improve upon software. Freedoms 2 and 3 give you the freedom to then offer your modified software, your _labor_ (as you put it), to others. Edit: regarding information should be free. The free software movement doesn't necessarily advocate for all media to be free; that's just the free culture movement. Free software is a particular case because computers are becoming an integral part of people's lives. Companies shouldn't be able to control people's lives.

@Boba0514 3 года назад

@@NateROCKS112 Very well said, you nudged my mindset in the right direction, thank you!

@klimenkodr123 4 года назад

Interesting to see whether his priorities are different in 2020. To be honest his argument about "not being able to read or change code because he's not a programmer, so why should I care about source code" makes no sense to me. You are still free to take the code to your buddy or colleague that has sufficient skills to read or modify it. And it's a way better way to spend your time than posting on adobe's or microsoft's forums about feature request that may or may never arrive. You can even hire a developer to add that feature or fund the development of that project. And literally the same concept can be applied to hardware repairs. If your laptop doesn't have soldered RAM, SSD or wifi adapter and you are not confident you can replace a dead component yourself, you can still take it to your friend that can do it for a beer (+ replacement part) or even Louis Rossmann himself that will do it for money. But, if your SSD cannot be replaced either because it's soldered or because of a chip that would prevent your pc from starting if it sees a hardware configuration change, you are out of luck and are forced to buy another device. But that's just one point. There are so many benefits to free/libre open source software that it kinda outweighs the time investment factor for me personally. And when you learn the way free(as in freedom) program works, that knowledge will always be there for you and will be a more transferable timeless knowledge. In contrast, when you learn photoshop or microsoft windows, 5 years down the line they might change the GUI or the way a certain tool works and you would have to spend your time again learning the new GUI/behavior or even changing your entire workflow to adapt for that one change in a proprietary program.

@CommandoBlack123 3 года назад

You are right. But the statement that the source code means nothing to him still stands. He can't do anything about it even if he wanted to. So now he needs to make a feature request that will only be done if a rando online will do it or if someone else did a modification AND SHARED IT. Usually people with no coding experience get the shit end of the stick with linux.

@CommandoBlack123 3 года назад

Just as a separate comment a lot of proprietary software companies are realizing that this is an importance an are implementing solutions in the form of plugins. Kinda like how you can mod minecraft to do what you want it to do.

@mskiptr 3 года назад

@@CommandoBlack123 The right-to-repair - right-to-modify equivalence still stands though. In both cases you may not have the skills, but you still benefit from it. Ofc hardware repair shops are far more popular than software repair ones (is that even a thing xD?), but conversely no random guy on the internet could possibly hope to fix all broken screen connectors in the world. The fact that these rights are manifested differently doesn't mean they do not share core similarities. One difference can be seen in the attitude: free software advocates do not try to ban proprietary software. Showing others that free -> better for the user, is far less intrusive then trying to outlaw designing irreparable hardware.

@CommandoBlack123 3 года назад

@@mskiptr The difference is that its almost gonna be impossible to find someone to fix your software where its magnitudes easier to find someone to fix your hardware.

@mskiptr 3 года назад

@@CommandoBlack123 Every active open source project has some maintainers that are generally very happy if you file a bug report. Also even on Windows people give help on forums. Finally if it's something really important, you can hire a freelancer. The means are different but software support does exist. And when the software is free, it can be way more effective - exactly like with right-to-repair.

@Drog007 4 года назад

Man, I usually love your videos and think you're in the right ballpark even if I don't fully agree with your points, but I have a significant difference of opinion on this one. Yes, quite often commercial software has a larger vested interest in being quick and easy to pick up and use, though that is not always the case. More important than any of that though, is that you should consider software freedom to be highly related to right to repair. Similar to how most users aren't going to be able to do board level repair on their devices, most people aren't going to be able to alter the source code, but it's equally important on both ends to have the tools and legal ability to do both.

@microbroadcast 4 года назад

Drog007. Agreed!

@NateROCKS112 4 года назад

@@jennasmol285 free software respects the computer user's 4 essential freedoms (www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html): 0. The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose. 1. The freedom to study how the program works and change it so it does your computing as you wish. Access to source code is a precondition for this. 2. The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help others 3. The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others. By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this. Freedom 0 states you can use the program the way you want. If I buy a piece of hardware from you, I can use it wherever or however I want, for any purpose. The hardware world has this right already, so there's no need to campaign for it. Freedom 1 states that I should be able to study and change a piece of software I obtained. But in order for me to do this, I need the source code to the program. This is similar to how Right to Repair laws demand schematics and parts from those who demand hardware. Freedoms 2 and 3 state that you can redistribute software, verbatim or modified, similar to how you can resell a laptop you bought and fixed up. Right to Repair laws demand that 3rd party manufacturers be able to refurbish and resell parts so that people can benefit from them.

@Lestibournes 4 года назад

Although this is old, what I'm saying was true before the video was posted: for regular users you just get a computer with Ubuntu and use it with the software it comes with or what you easily find and download from the Ubuntu Software Center, and it just works and gets the job done in a comfortable no-hassle way and that's it. It's people who have specialized needs like a specific app, or unsupported hardware, that would have a hassle.

@ortega6211 6 лет назад

I'd pay for watch a live reaction to a Stallman speech..

@danieleden2550 Год назад

A problem I have with linux, 8 years later, is I often just can't fix the problem. It's like how computers were in the 90s where they would just stop working and you were fucked

@laharl2k 3 года назад

I wish there was a way to pay someone to get things fixed on linux. Say crowdfund and get a driver working, but as an actual job, not "a promise" where i pay and may not get the job done. I actually want to pay to get a product. Tell me how much you charge, and how much the hardware you need costs and we get a bunch of people and pay for it. If that were possible lots of things would work much better on linux.

@iusegentoobtw 3 года назад

You can actually advertise for something like this or set bug bounties. Very good concept though, since devs (not users) have the ultimate say in what is being developed. imo the biggest problem with free software; the market doesn't decide, the developers do.

@OtesOtesOtes 3 года назад

It's 2020 and I was just mysteriously recommended to watch this video again thanks to the algorithm. I recently was setting up a used laptop for my adopted father. RU-vid videos ended up blanking out while the audio continued playing under Windows 10. My immediate thought was that it was an issue with hardware decoding. I had installed drivers for the 1050 it came with, but the problem persisted. I manually installed the Intel graphics driver for the iGPU. Videos still blanked out. Eventually I just turned off hardware acceleration and they played back just fine.

@perfect.stealth 4 года назад

I love your way of thinking. You're an inspiration sir. I donate to almost all free software that i use, because i know some guy(s) are out there spending HOURS to make OURS. I personally believe everyone should donate/support free software, because it wasn't free for the talented guy(s) who made it.

@zackinator1439 3 года назад

The difference between a Linux evangelist and just someone who likes Linux is if you ask an evangelist the downsides of Linux they'll tell you there aren't any. I love Linux (I use Arch btw lol) and think many more people should use Linux. However, there are certain things that simply work much much better on Windows or MacOS. Gaming on Linux works, but if gaming is your number 1 priority or in top 3 priority, Linux is not a good choice. You can edit videos on Linux, but it will be painful. Use the right tool for the job. Evangelists will say that "Linux is so much more free as in freedom" but leave out the part where that means since the OS has more things it can do, it has more things that can break. I don't mind fixing Linux stuff if it means I can have my computer work the way I want it to. Some people don't care about customization and tweaks and stuff and just want something that works. Depending on the use case, Windows or MacOS may be the best option, you have to kind of take it by a case by case basis. Linux can work how you want, but you have to put time in to learn Linux, pick a distro, maybe learn new software because some software like Discord and VLC are available, but some like Microsoft Office aren't. Some alternatives are very intuitive or very similar to the one you're used to, but some aren't. Linux beats Windows and MacOS in many ways, but pretending it beats them in every way is just stupid.

@sbusweb 7 лет назад

"Graphics driver support" is noticeably a long-standing issue / topic ...... The question I have is 'why?'. Intel opted for open graphics drivers... whereas 'amdgpu' and 'nouveau' open drivers both have mixed levels of 'open' support just as Louis discovers... and the Proprietary drivers have their own set of complications, but the situation (appears) to be improving generally. A problem of 'intellectual protectionism' going on with graphics drivers? What will be the pushback to make the hardware vendor improve on this? Curious if Louis tried Mint 18.1 MATE (based on ubuntu 16.04), seems to be the least-fuss to 'just work' across lots more newer boxes at the moment.

@samuelfranklin9179 7 лет назад

did you try DaVinci resolve? i like it

@0xEmmy 3 года назад

On the one hand, there is some truth to this. On the other, it depends on the use case, with Linux often saving time over the alternatives. Windows is inefficient (meaning that applications are slow), it often forces updates at inopportune times, and maintaining security adds even more costs to time and effort, not to mention the pricetag. In other words, (using a web/office user as an example) one can either: - spend $100 on a Windows license - spend several hours setting up security - spend several minutes to hours at random waiting on forced updates, including at inopportune moments such as right before a presentation - spend minutes if not hours of every day waiting on an overburdened CPU - Spend $ hundreds to thousands when Windows' increasing bloat makes the system obsolete - Spend minutes (not to mention frustration) fighting with a UI that you can't customize, even if willing to put in the effort learning to do so - Hope that there aren't any insecurities lurking unpatched in the OS that nobody can find because the source isn't public Or: - Spend a few hours downloading and installing Linux - Learn a single office suite once Costs associated with advanced technical setup work and imperfect software support become more likely with niche applications - hence, my browsing, coding & office Thinkpad runs Debian, but my gaming laptop runs Win10.

@ichbinwirklicheinechternam6442 4 года назад

I've set up a Lenovo Yoga, which came out of the Box with Windows 10 and it was a friggin' nightmare - well for me at least. While under Windows 10 I installed Windows 7 and try to run all possible updates and find drivers to make the touchscren (AND TOUCHPAD!) work, but I couldn't. Then I decided to give linux a try (1st Fedora) from USB Live Boot and I was blown away. Everything worked.. the SSD driver, the WiFi driver, the touchscreen, the orientation sensor.. everythign.. from Live USB boot without updates.. I didn't like the UX of Fedora though so i switched to Ubuntu and the experience was very similar; There are some minor thing (touchpad not re-engaging after switiching from tablet mode for example) that I couldn't fix within 1 hour so far, but I am amazed by what free, open-source software can do nowadays. The biggest issue with Linux is that all major programs are still developed for Windows (ten) and just don't run under Linux.. Windows would have no right to exist if it wasn't for the "first mover" advantage it has because frankly: every version after Windows 7 can suck my salty balls until it chokes on them.

@tacokoneko 4 года назад

microsoft taking notes days before the release of windows 10, "quick! put that in the software!"

@nancypagan4790 3 года назад

Free software is not force on anyone if you want to use it fine if not leave alone walk away , but don't kick it there are many of us who like it and love it!!!!!.

@Spenito 3 года назад

This is why I use Manjaro Linux. Under the hood it's Arch, but I'm able to install it in about five minutes and pretty much everything just works right out of the box.

@pauln07 10 месяцев назад

Louis can u revisit this now 8years later

@liblevi45s53 3 года назад

It's a lot better than what it was five years ago. I'm stuck on Windows 10 right now because I ran into a driver issue with an AMD NAVI card after I bought it. After using GNU/Linux for ages, the switch back is nauseating. A lot of the features in Windows seem so primitive. It's 2020 not 2004. Window handles do not have a "stay on top" function. The file explorer still does not have support for tabs and is still horrendously slow when sorting large folders. Windows Defender and Smart Screen can't be permanently turned off(I've tried). Window buttons aren't clickable if a program is unresponsive; can't minimize either. Killing a process in task manager does not immediately kill it unlike the use of "kill -s 9 ". System errors are as usual very vague and uninformative. The software constantly nags the s*it out of you to use the Microsoft Store and a Microsoft Account. A lot of software to do basic things tends to have a paywall or use bait and switch trial methods. Some of the missing things can be added with third party software, but why? Why pay for something that should already be built in out of the box? The OS costs hundreds of dollars and they continue to add so many useless apps and bloat. Sure the performance is better, but I can't see much of an overall difference in usage performance. My machine is very high end, but I'm barely seeing the performance out of it. Gaming performance is better.. but with Proton, gaming really is not an excuse anymore besides the existence of DRM and AntiCheat. I'll be making the switch back this weekend.

@KTSpeedruns 3 года назад

Linux elites other than Luis don’t understand this. Thanks Luis for bringing this into the conversation. 100% of people can benefit from free as in free beer. Only coders really benefit from free as in free speech. And Linux being extremely unfriendly to basic users actively works against you. Even if you can change code and redistribute, that’s a time cost. I pay for Windows license because I value my time. I don’t have dozens of hours to dedicate to fixing issues on why a capture card doesn’t work. I don’t have dozens of hours to look at source code I don’t understand because Something Office doesn’t have a certain feature I’m used to having.

@NateROCKS112 3 года назад

> Only coders really benefit from free as in free speech. Free speech only benefits the people who speak out. I don't want to put the time into writing to the newspaper or contacting my legislator. Having to defend myself in a court case against the government is too much effort, so in no way does free speech benefit me. _Because donating to an organization like the EFF to speak on my behalf is completely impossible._ If I'm not going to speak, then no one should have free speech. I think you get the point. Free software benefits users indirectly -- and directly, when you need it -- because a free society benefits the public. Tesla couldn't lock down their cars and serialize parts, you could choose the mobile phone carrier you use and remove Google tracking, and you wouldn't have to worry if you're legally allowed to use a piece of software that does the job for you.

@DimaNoizinfected 4 года назад

Windows Updates tooked too much of my free time so I'm now Linux evangelist. How system so crappy, that it screw updates even only for itself even exist in 2020

@CommandoBlack123 3 года назад

I never had issues with windows updates. Ever

@jb888888888 4 года назад

I volunteer at my local Free Geek and we put Linux on all of our non-Apple systems. I started working on laptops in 2015 and we had very few problems getting wireless to work, it usually worked out of the box - unless the laptop was using a Broadcom wireless card. It was usually easier to replace the Broadcom card with another card. We eventually found a solution but it took many people many hours searching the internet for the solution, which we now install by default. I'm probably more of a Linux fanboy than I think I am, but I'm certainly not so much of one that I think Linux is the best solution for everyone no matter their use case. I've actually talked a few people out of buying from us if what they wanted to do required Windows because installing Windows on our systems actually breaks our warranty (not to mention the price of buying the software and potential struggle to install it properly). I'd rather have someone not buy and feel like they've been treated honestly than talk someone into buying and then they resent us for selling them a computer they can't use. OTOH for the "average" person doing the things people "normally" do with a computer, Linux works at least as well as Windows or MacOS and often better. I've also talked people out of buying one of our systems and then also going out and buying Windows to put on the hardware they get from us, just using the Linux that's preinstalled. "I need to write term papers!" LibreOffice. "Watching RU-vid." Firefox, Chromium, Chrome, etc. Many options most of which are also available on Windows/Mac, so you know it's not knockoff barely working software.

@MNanme1z4xs 8 лет назад

This applies to console vs PC. Also apply to casual vs hardcore gaming. Fandom=Fan+domb

@AcceleratingUniverse 7 лет назад

there is something poetic about misspelling the word 'dumb'

@MNanme1z4xs 7 лет назад

dumb + bomb = domb

@PresidentEvil 9 лет назад

in your defence, as a business owner you don't want to be pirating software, it's just another part of expenditures

@rossmanngroup 9 лет назад

PresidentEvil11 Call me old fashioned but I don't pirate software. I understand why people pirate movies and music. I remember in 2004 I had two choices - take the bus to blockbuster in the rain, wait 40 minutes, wait 40 minutes on the way back to get a scratched DVD that skipped, or click a button, take a shower, and come back in 20 minutes to a perfect quality copy. Even if the pirated copy cost MORE, I know which one I prefer. I get why people pirate media. Even now in 2015 with all the DRM, limitations, and shit quality copies being circulated, it is a real pain in the ass to pay for media. With software I don't feel the same is true. I can download online, it is easy, and most of what I buy comes at a very fair price for what it does. I don't buy junk, I buy software that genuinely makes my life easier. I spend fair amounts of money on things that help me out a great deal, which empowers me to demand a fair rate for my own time when I am helping someone else out a great deal. If I stopped paying for good software and went the pirated route, it would undermine my own ability to feel justified in demanding compensation for my time and services.

@rightwingsafetysquad9872 8 месяцев назад

Holy crap, that hairline. NY hadn't worn him down quite yet.

@para_dies8071 4 года назад

Like many other things in life being open minded in the tech world is important. Don't get married to a certain company or operating system, learn about everything and use each operating system, device or whatever it may be when it makes the most sense to make life easier because tech its meant to help us and improve our lives, not slow us down or give us constant headaches

@inscrutablemungus4143 2 года назад

Everybody needs to find an optimal setup to do their computing. If your life looks like mine: ie. your day job mainly involves writing/debugging code in fortran, C and python; you've used linux since you were a child; the software you can't live without (aka video games) run on linux/WINE (and you're willing to tinker a bit); then linux is 100% for you. If not, then you'll need to figure out the right balance for your needs. What is universally a bad idea, IMO, is switching cold turkey to linux. That just won't work. If you want to migrate OS', start with a dual boot and for the first few months, just use linux for basic productivity/running native linux games. Slowly learn the command line and get used to launching applications from it. If you never get past this point, that's okay! You'll still get the best of both worlds. Once you're ready, move on to games that require lutris/proton and start tinkering deeper under the hood of the OS. Keep the dual-boot until every single piece of software that you use regularly either (1) works to a level you're okay with on linux or (2) you've found an alternative that you can live with. Once you reach this point (however long it takes), delete your windows install. Congratulations! You've just migrated to linux without tearing your hair out or posting a frustrated rant on the internet.

@Datzfunk 8 лет назад

My two cents. Debian pronunciation (deb-ian) as in Debbie and Ian. I use it, love it.(headless). Also, Windows 10 finally has muti-desktop. Thanks for the people who also spend their free time writing GPL or like free software. Get the best of both worlds.. which is why I run Win8, Win10, Ubuntu, and Debian. Think I still have Slax on a flash drive somewhere too.

@ziomalisty 6 лет назад

Same here. I use Debian and I use Windows. Debian with any GUI is really stable and fast. Windows is great for anything with a GUI.

@CarNikola135 4 года назад

Eh Louis, want to revisit this subject from 2020 perspective? Having access to driver source code would solve all linux problems (or most), as your right to repair. We are not allowed to decompile, yet free software people try there best to figure out how that wi fi driver works. Soon you are not going to be allowed to look under microscope to fix iPhone. It's literally the same thing.

@iusegentoobtw 3 года назад

It wouldn't. Linux's largest problem is cohesion and development strategy. Imagine if someone forked Windows 98 and gave thousands of people 20 years to make their own choices as to where things should be prioritized and patched. That's the state of linux.

@CarNikola135 3 года назад

@@iusegentoobtw It would fix because all people want there drivers to work, there is no conflict of intrest. Just look at currently free drivers, they are good. Imagin if all printer/scaner and office tools drivers were free, or majority? Everyone would use linux becase drivers would work.

@ste1040bill 5 лет назад

Nice video , compliments for the business and the right to repair stuff , which is delightful . Of course some years have passed , just to say that amd cards listed on the pro driver page , supports the open source driver on linux , and afaik acceleration is okay . And I am pleased to notice that Open Shot video editor is rendering now using all the cpu threads . In 2019 , I do not see many problems for audio / video creation in linux . The content of the video back in 2015 was right on point tho.

@NateROCKS112 3 года назад

Unless video editing can be done with entirely free software, this video still applies. To my knowledge, this isn't the case.

@mjouwbuis 6 лет назад

I have spent hours and hours setting things up in Windows '98 and XP as well. So I paid for my Windows and I lost free time. At least with Linux, the software was also free (as in beer). Even in Windows 10 with up to date hardware I have had to try various drivers that bluescreened at some point in time until I foun a beta version that worked just right.

@lashlarue59 4 года назад

So in other words, use the right tool for the right job.

@erickleefeld4883 4 года назад

The source code “freedom” nature of Linux is why it took over the server space - all the guys who work on servers had direct control over the product, and were able to build up their own tools instead of the whole profession being subjugated to one or two big companies. (Read: Microsoft, but also the late Sun Microsystems and its presence back in the ‘90s.) And other companies were willing to pay for all the work that went into Linux on the server end, because working with the profession was better than becoming vassals to Microsoft. So in terms of the real economic model, think of it as an old-time guild for skilled craftsmen, in this case the sys-admins who keep the internet and all those enterprise servers working. But that guild model has just not had a parallel application to the consumer OS market - and I say this as somebody who’d like to see it do better! Even stuff like Android and Chrome OS, built on top of the Linux kernel, are just a scheme to mine users’ data. (And that’s how Google really monetizes their software development.) As for me, I’m using plenty of open-source apps - VLC, LibreOffice, Audacity, etc. - on my MacBook 12". And at each step, this is choosing the right tool for my needs, and getting both real work and leisure activities done.

@AsbjornOlling 6 лет назад

You're explaining this as if it is something that's fundamental to Free software. The time-sink that dodgy open source alternatives can be, are entirely about *the state* of free software, and not free software as an idea. Today. there's a tradeoff. Some people are willing to support the idea of free software (and reap the benefits of it), in return for their time. There is ultimately no reason the free software should take up more time than proprietary competitors, apart from that *today* proprietary competitors are often more popular, and have more full-time developers on it. Putting the time into using and supporting foss software, *is* putting time into closing this gap, and making foss software more usable.

@worldhello1234 6 лет назад

"The time-sink that dodgy open source alternatives can be, are entirely about the state of free software, and not free software as an ideal. " Fixed that for you.

@tormaid42 6 лет назад

Maybe, but this has always been the state of open source software. In the world people actually work and live in, market forces reward people for making closed source software, so the best people are going to make closed source software because that’s where they can make the most money.

@jk-fy8on 10 месяцев назад

linux is for nerds who don't have family nor friends no social life. Their only friends are their precious computers.

@zwanzikahatzel9296 4 года назад

Freedom is not just some "priority" that you should not force on other people. Other people giving away their freedom impact MY freedom. When everyone does something, at some point it becomes mandantory. Like when almost everyone stops using cash, it will be made illegal, and you will be forced to pay with a tracking device. Same with phones: more and more activities are such that can only be done on your phone. At some point you won't be able to function in society unless you carry these tracking devices and spyware everywhere. Other people giving up their freedom will at some point cause me to lose my freedom too.

@Yotrymp 3 года назад

windows has multi desktop function now. idk when that was implemented but I feel like its mostly unknown

@kquote03 3 года назад

2015 when Windows 10 was released. Win10 released a little over a month after this video was uploaded :P

@mkschreder 7 лет назад

Actually free software is freedom to change master. GPL software can change master at any time and nobody can keep it proprietary. Which is good. Obviously it shall not be created without payment ideally - a lot of free software such as linux is financed by large companies that use linux in their products. But nobody can own linux in the strictly legal sense of the word - which is pretty cool.

@OnajTamo 7 лет назад

Like a public park.

@mkschreder 6 лет назад

Not really because you can not build your own stuff in a public park. You keep whatever you contribute to free software. No employer can say that the code now belongs to someone else. Anything you contribute to a GPL product under your work hours, you keep. The code has freedom to be free and everyone has equal rights to use it in their products. It is always better to spend work hours contributing to free software that your company uses in their products.

@memorypalacetemplates 8 лет назад

Video editing tools available for Linux are at much more advanced level than they used to be. Have you tried the newest DaVinci Resolve? That thing can utilize multiple graphic cards and scales up to cluster size computers. Speaking about free alternatives, Kdenlive was very buggy 3 years ago, but now they say it improved.

@holyhelga 11 месяцев назад

using linux fully opensource will be a bad experience as all new hardware dont have opensource drivers yet

@MakersGonnaMake Год назад

05:00 Shout out too my tinkerers it was such an amazing feeling finally gettin the wifi card to work

@Hercules_tootoo 5 лет назад

You speak really well. This video is old. But sending my appreciation.

@23RaySan 7 лет назад

I mostly agree with you. I love my linux, i love my gentoo and i love my arch. You can do very crazy shit with this software. But man, some open source tools suck. They really do. Some time ago i was starting to produce my own PCBs. So i was lloking arround, which software for that job is available on linux. I ended up with KiCAD, which seems to be the most comprehensive software to layout your own PCB. I watched hours and hours on youtube how to use it. And honestly, i still don't get it. Maybe i'm just dumb or something. Then a friend recommended me the use of Target3001. Firstly i was a little bit concerned, because i have to use windows (yes, i know, Target3001 works with wine, but i don't want to get into that shit). So i installed windows and target3001 on a spare machine i had laying around, and simply starting using it. I didn't have to read any manuals or watch youtube videos on how to use target3001. As i said, i simply started using it. The only time i had a problem, was when i wanted to layout my own component because it wasn't in the library. So i called my friend, and he was able to tell me on the phone (!) how to layout a component in half an hour. Ditching the opensource KiCAD and using the closed source propitary target3001 saved me so much time!

@kanz0bgz 4 года назад

I paid for SuSE linux at best buy also! That was back in 2000 or something

@ulissemini5492 4 года назад

I use my free time to customize my linux distro checkmate atheists

@steelfalconx2000 4 года назад

In 2020 I've been using Pop os Linux for a few months. My laptop runs like a dream, but unfortunately every time I need to install a specific software I have to hop down the rabbit hole full of strange dependencies, terminal commands, Reddit loops, random shady looking webpages and Linux elitists giving advice with no explanation or simply assuming you know how to do something. I can't even get tkinter to load on pycharm after verifying it's actually installed and running for simple python scripting. I think I'll be going back to windows soon.

@logickedmazimoon6001 4 года назад

pip install future

@steelfalconx2000 4 года назад

@@logickedmazimoon6001 yep tried that.

@Galileocrafter 6 лет назад

Free as in free time, The reason why i’m not doing Hackintoshes anymore. No time anymore to debug sh*it. Next computer will be a Mac. Yes, no Windows because even there i have to f**ck around too much. Actually that was the reason why i switched to macOS.

@ab.3800 3 года назад

This is why my laptop is a thinkpaw w520 running arch and desktop is a 06 mac pro with 8 cores and 32gb ram and el capitan lol

@Krazy0 Год назад

The chad-ness is spreading from out of the video rapidly.

@hamobu 11 месяцев назад

No you are not getting the "free speech" part. It's not about the ability to modify the source code, but about the legal right to use and control your computer way you want, and to share with anyone. Yes free speech will cost you time. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

@propabilityfpv303 6 лет назад

if only we had source code for that usb trackpad driver louis

@StaceyAyodele 2 года назад

I found this today in the year 2022...I didn't know you've been using Linux since 2002.... I tried Linux and unfortunately for me, I couldn't use it on my systems...the issue being that the Live USB couldn't find my NVIDIA driver and thusly refused to boot. When I rebooted I ended up having to reset my GPU when a specific Acer keyboard shortcut. So yeah...that um...kinda turned me off from Linux. Still, love to see you showing this. Shocked that I found this 7 years later.

@yusefaslam9675 Год назад

Do you still use Linux? If so what distro do you use?

@myghi63 4 года назад

Well, I started using linux at 2016 and it sucket a lot like that. Now I do ALL my work on it and you now have softwares that you can buy (or just use or donate) that does playback and edit advanced stuff for videos. Also, xfwm4 fixed the tearing issue. BUT, there's still lots of problems, like HiDPI scaling doesn't work for applications like spotify, steam and davinci resolve, davinci does not support h264 on the free version, etc. So today it's way better, but still needs to improve a LOT

@nysaea 8 лет назад

Thanks for all the info! I have a question for you: Since you go back and forth between Windows and Linux for your videos, and I assume that you must be dealing with files much heavier than what FAT32 can handle, what file system do you use to share said files between platforms? Thank you for your time! ;)

@rossmanngroup 8 лет назад

i mount ntfs on linux

@nysaea 8 лет назад

Thanks a lot!

@sbusweb 7 лет назад

That works well usually (AIUI OS X also has 'ntfs-3g' driver in it), though note NTFS on linux will usually run rather noticeably slower than native filesystems, though of course this may not matter for you! sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/

@nysaea 7 лет назад

Oh this is an interesting project, thanks!

@alanmay6401 5 лет назад

Most reasonable people in the "free software movement" make it a point to emphasize that "free" does NOT mean free of cost (be it time, money, or whatever).

@thelazycwriter8789 5 лет назад

Yeah, video editing on Linux has been a major pain in the ass for years now, it blows! And I know people will say "KdenLive is amazing and makes it profes" No it doesn't... I've used Kdenlive for years, and no, it's no where near "professional", that being said, it's not bad (Better than 99% of free video editing tools for sure though... But the performance sucks, effects are basic, the bugs and crashes are plentiful and reporting a bug takes 2 years... And some bugs have been known to exist for years and not fixed yet, like the timeline duplication bug). But, that being said, there are two video editors for Linux that are great that are *actually* professional. 1: Davinci Resolve (I use this, and the performance is stunningly good. And the free version is like the pro version, without a few FX... Does cost a lot of money however). 2: LightWorks. Obviously Louis won't see this comment, because who would notice a comment on a video that's almost four years old when he gets comments constantly on other newer videos. But oh well. At least I get to trigger some Linux fanboys when they read this.

@rossmanngroup 5 лет назад

I would not mind paying for DaVinci resolve if it works well. I got lightworks and it was far too confusing for me. Maybe I'm an idiot and capable of using anything designed for a professional. Adobe premier confuses me a little bit, but light works was a new level of I have no idea what I'm doing

@thelazycwriter8789 5 лет назад

@@rossmanngroup Heh, did not expect a reply. Anywhoo, I think you'll find Davinci easy, everything about it is fairly straight forward... except for graphical effects, as that's node based. Color effects/correction on the other hand is super easy and well done. And based on the videos you tend to upload to this channel, I doubt you'll have any issues. Try the free version, you'll probably like it.

@XahLee 9 лет назад

great video. Truth be told. I'm a programer. First linux in 1998. Been Mac user since 1992 to 2009. The overzealous guys in both Mac and Linux communities are really a pain.

@andrewlankford9634 4 года назад

Once you're sick of shelling out cash for "upgrades" of commercial software but are quite familiar with the intricacies of those applications, you invest less time using competing free software. Sometimes the OSS stuff is really the only game in town, because "embrace and extend" fell flat on its face.

@tehM4ge 9 лет назад

I usually separate it as one thing is for work and another is for personal use. If I am getting payed to perform a job I also exchange my free time and depending on the customer, free speech, to keep that job and I wouldn't consider myself less of a free man because I do so. It's sad that people value convenience over freedom. But it is even worse that people should have to make the choice. I get that open source applications would not be a priority to someone who cannot read the code anyway. But free software (speech) is important to me because I don't want to worry about how I use the software, I don't want to register to be able to download it and I don't want to have nasty features (which is almost always becomes a security risk) in the program that ensures that I keep using it within what they allow. There are some good proprietary software that doesn't display these traits and I don't mind using them if it serves a purpose but this is not the case in a lot of software.

@nopenopeagain4397 4 года назад

Agreed. Even as a C++ programmer I still prefer Windows because while programming on Linux (Kubuntu 18.04's my distro) may be easier, deploying on it is a nightmare. For Windows software, you drag a few DLLs into the same folder as the executable and/or distribute and installer for other dependencies. Can't do that for Linux, gotta ship the exact same version of all the custom libraries, and set up a script that sets the LD_LIBRARY_PATH because it's super stingy about where it wants to load libraries from. And that's why I only distribute the source for Linux versions of my stuff, they make it a nightmare to ship anything else. FOSS by extreme obnoxiousness.

@clintonbeckway4171 7 лет назад

I bought Suse Linux 10.0, Enterprise DeskTop with the manuals and the disks and all the documentation for £15, and i use it on my my 10 year old IBM laptop, and it works very well. Plus it has an inbuilt tutorials which shows you how to use it with it's quick start guide. I only us it on my old laptop, and i use windows on my new pc.

@thomyork1281 6 лет назад

I know everyone's time is precious. But I was wondering if you could, in 2018, re-visit this topic. I have a sneaking suspicion that most if not all of the downsides when it comes to the "free time" argument have been, for the most part (if not entirely) , ironed out. Maybe you disagree , and if you do , I would love to know the reasons why. Highly Doubting You Will Ever Read This Comment, Thom

@samuellourenco1050 6 лет назад

Don't forget that AMD may not provide proprietary drivers in Linux distributions. Also, hardware manufacturers often don't provide documentation for free. That explains why certain features won't work on AMD graphics cards.

@pilgrammedia7295 7 лет назад

i love linux mint 18

@houghwhite411 6 лет назад

I use Windows for gaming and Linux for productivity Yes they both works great

@angusorvid8840 3 года назад

I often recommend this video or reiterate what Louis says because it's worth mulling over for anyone with an interest in Linux, but no experience. For one thing, Linux is NOT a panacea. Most people do not have time for it. But if you do, it's something worth learning. It's a wonderful thing. But still, that does not make it the eighth trouble-free wonder of the world. It's not. When you first install Linux you are likely to run into these problems. Luckily, a lot of them can be fixed with help you can find in the Linux community. I run it on a few machines just for kicks. But on my main machines I use Windows and I have a couple Chromebooks. I like using Word for writing and the publishing industry, like it or not, ain't about to start firing up Fedora anytime soon.

@naderz4064 2 месяца назад

I love Louise's content lol I started using linux 2 years ago it was time well spent lol

@chaquator 9 лет назад

I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux! Real talk though, I've always heard it called "Free as in Freedom" as opposed to "Free as in Free Speech."

@zandax 9 лет назад

You state this as a fact, but are really just taking sides in an open debate. There is a fair number of points which can be made for both names.

@rossmanngroup 9 лет назад

chaquator I am completely aware of this, and this is a good time to bring up another point when dealing with reality.If you want people to acknowledge two organizations, or two different components in one name, a proper name must be created that, even when abbreviated, will give credit to both. Realize that no one is going to pronounce GNU slash Linux out loud when discussing these things. The same way no one says macintosh operating system ten, or microsoft windows 8 point 1. It just doesn't roll off the tongue.It's mac. or os ten. or linux. or windows.I understand that it is not proper. There is fact, but then there is practical reality. The fact is that GNU/Linux is the operating system, the practical reality is good luck getting people to not abbreviate that over the course of their everyday life.

@chaquator 9 лет назад

Louis Rossmann yeah I agree, I just love posting the copypasta for shitz n giggles

@SlashU631 9 лет назад

chaquator gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8. Yeah you're cool posting generic 4chan /g/ copy pasta, 4chan shit should stay in 4chan. Great video Louis.

@chaquator 9 лет назад

SlashU631 you seem to be pretty... GNU here what I discussed something too, if you read the entirety of my comment mane don't act so narcissistic

@deathbornderhatkid2997 4 года назад

Idk I spent more time fucking around with Windows 10, it's Update crap, reinstalling that shit because it craps out after a year and random shit breaking then installing arch and learning how Linux works. Also open source stuff works sometimes just much better. Sure games suck but I'd rather have a stable system then this unpredictable consumer junk.

@awesometsimonq2 8 лет назад

So just out of curiosity, what distribution and what version? Do you use any remixes or flavors? What have you tried and what do/don't you like in the Linux world?

@serendipitousserpent5851 5 лет назад

It's not a problem of linux but of the hardware manufacturers not releasing open source drivers...You can't expect to linux enthusiasts to reverse engineer graphic drivers in their spare time..

@serendipitousserpent5851 4 года назад

There is no demand, because nobody uses linux for stuff like playing video games because support for modern graphic chips is poor..Classic lock-in effect..It's basically the only thing hindering gamer nerds to switch to linux...Obviously there is no obligation to release proprietary hardware drivers or source code

@scalp340 Год назад

Lol, I spent the entire day switching to and learning Linux, only to lose my temper trying to figure out how to get simple USB device drivers to work and adjust my night light colors (that didn't work)..... Imagine more complicated issues like video editing and capture. Forget that OS unless you have a computer science degree. Windows is way better despite the effort and years in community development.

@juanmanuelborrero2250 4 года назад

The wifi analogy for 2002-2003 is completely irrelevant. Wifi first appeared in laptops around that time so of course, free and open source drivers for a new technology was going to be more difficult to find, and companies were going to provide drivers mostly for Windows. In fact, if you knew what you were doing, you could simply used ndsiwrapper to make the Windows wifi driver work in Linux. I did this in Fedora as early as 2003. First time you spend the entire afternoon doing it, but once you got the handle of it you could get it done in 5 minutes. And also SUSE 8.1 was indeed free, but just like Red Hat when you buy it what you are paying for is the support, not the software itself. For instance in 2004 I purchased a huge $10k system with factory installed RHEL from Dell and $200 of those $10k were for the OS support (not the software). You could have also used OpenSUSE or CentOS which are the fully free versions of those operating systems (no tech support).

@luky7080 5 лет назад

watching this in 2019, at least things improved a bit today it's not entirely open source fault btw, it just doesn't have the support like windows, where bugs can happen here too but solved rather quickly than Linux I Linux fine on my laptop for basic usage, printers work out the box, etc

@PainterVierax 5 лет назад

Well, it's not "things" but AMD who improved its Linux support to be now a bit better than Nvidia's proprietary driver. That was the main issue of Louis. And even better : nowadays Da Vinci Resolve is ported on Linux for users who need professional video editing software. It's not FLOSS but there is a gratuitous version available and that suite is more optimized than Adobe's one.

@Papergami45 5 лет назад

@@PainterVierax There's Olive now too, which is an early development but pretty solid video editor.

@PainterVierax 5 лет назад

@@Papergami45 Way too early, it's still an alpha. I can't recommend that software for production. Moreover it's too empty to be compared to the professional suites.

@Papergami45 5 лет назад

@@PainterVierax I agree, but considering it's basically a few months old, it's one to keep an eye on.

@PainterVierax 5 лет назад

@@Papergami45 Personnaly, I'm more conservative about the tools I use and I'd rather wait a 1.0 announcement before another look. Resolve fills a niche that Adobe always despised so to me there is no desperate needs for Olive nowadays.

@TechRageLinux 7 лет назад

Great points!! Fanboyism is strong in the Linux world.

@AbdelrahmanMohamed383 6 лет назад

As a guy who used to only use windows I would say it's just something people do regardless of what side they're on

@hblaub 6 лет назад

But: Linux folks (which include various ambitious individuals and companies) do achieve something no one saw before: MS got fear in their bones and are supporting a lot of Linux stuff in their public cloud and products ; so IMHO it is this fanboyism which drives innovations

@stevejohnson1321 5 лет назад

You might try again --a lot may have changed in three years. For me the freedom of Ubuntu and Trisquel is freedom from entropy. About the only thing micro-softie "windows" does well is waste resources and invite intrusions. I was tired of no improvement, so I changed over almost ten years ago. I get a robust system that always works well, but I also get freedom from an ecosystem that simply didn't work well.

@aspie182 8 лет назад

An excellent point. Freedom has many components to it with some being more important than others to different people. In ~2004, I was rapidly tiring of Windoze, and I had been using it since the 3.1 days because that was what everyone used. But then I started reading about Linux and thought “you know, considering how often I have to reinstall and reconfigure Windoze, this sounds like it might be worth a try”. Famous last words. I forget exactly which distros I tried, but one of them was so restrictive with permissions that I could not even edit my own documents under it. I spent a total of several days trying to save this one-sentence text file in more directories than I knew existed, including under the home directory I named after myself, and nothing. I had no permission to do anything. Great, I thought, what if I want to write an epic 250,000 word novel? (Just as a hypothetical.) So after struggling alternating between Windoze XP and whatever Linux I felt like trying at the time, I start investigating Macs, and in 2009 I buy a Mac. Having to purchase new stuff like antivirus or trackballs was a bit of a bummer, but the main point is that I was basically up and running in just a couple of hours, and even editing small videos. I had not been this happy to have a computer since the Amiga days. I am finally glad to see someone who is much more tech-savvy than I will ever be affirming (indirectly) that my priorities are the way they are for a reason. I am sure you have already heard the quote “Linux is only free if your time is worthless”. I firmly believed that quote during the time I speak of, and because I am never going to be a programmer or hacker, it is going to be true for me for as long as I can see going forward. But I also apply the end of this statement to other things. Living in Maryborough is only cheaper if your time is worthless. Public transport in most of Asstralia is only cheaper if your time is worthless, and so on. Anyhoo, I just wanted to throw that out there because even if I disagree with a lot of other things you say, your explanations of the value of time had me pumping my fist in the air. Thank you, and well done.

@blendingsentinel4797 Год назад

So glad that NONE of this is truley relevant today. So glad more initiative has been put into this.

@asj511 8 лет назад

Louis, have you tried Lightworks? It's available at Arch's AUR. I can compile it for you if you wanna try it.

@paianis 7 лет назад

Still not open source. I still prefer Cinelerra, though the UI is very clunky and it doesn't behave well with many codecs.

@paianis 3 года назад

@windson7 Yeah since I abandoned Linux I don't use it anymore. It's a mix of Blender and ffmpeg for me nowadays.

@---bl3sr 8 месяцев назад

Rare Louis Ross The Bossman L-take.

@HeiderJeffer 4 года назад

"WTFPL = DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE. The WTFPL is a very permissive license for software and other scientific or artistic works that offers a great degree of freedom. In fact, it is probably the best license out there. This site www.wtfpl.net/about/ provides information on how to make the most of the WTFPL" by Sam Hocevar "The word "free" in our name does not refer to price; it refers to freedom. First, the freedom to copy a program and redistribute it to your neighbors, so that they can use it as well as you. Second, the freedom to change a program, so that you can control it instead of it controlling you; for this, the source code must be made available to you." by Legendary Richard Matthew Stallman (RMS) the founding father of GPL GNU General Public License..

@n0b0d1bg5 6 месяцев назад

Spot on!

@donniehdea9281 4 года назад

Pretty sure you can modify parts of Debian, only thing off limits is the proprietary drivers

@burshey4sh 3 года назад

I dont want to take an aggressive stance towards this video but "not being able to read or change code because he's not a programmer, so why should I care about source code" is the same as "not being able to fix or repair my laptop because i'm not a technician, so why should I care about the repair-ability of my computer" which is why a lot of people end up buying macbooks even though other laptops with far greater repair-ability and superior specifications exist but people dont buy them they pay with their pocket instead of their time

@BaDitO2 6 лет назад

I agree with your opinion on don't pushing priorities to other people, and your different value of freedom. But it really came to the point to me that I felt forced to switch to linux. Because I spent most of my free time in front of the pc ( go on mock me with lul get a life etc... ), and I could not stand anymore with the feeling that Microsoft knows almost everything I do in my free time. Yes I had to give up some games that I play and many other things which some of them you actually pointed out. But in the end I felt like I made the right choice. But what I worry about are the MASSES of people ( unlike you and me and most likely most of the viewers who watch this video ) who are not able to understand ( due to lack of technical understanding ) what companies do to them. So they are unable to make a educated choice. It's like me trying to find the best car, I would not really be able to make the right choice because I know nothing about cars. ( I made very bad car deals in the past ). But it took me a while to realize that I am unable to make a educated car choice.

@RRW359 8 лет назад

I'm pretty sure you can also record the desktop in Windows using VLC, not just Linux.

@user-fs9mv8px1y 3 года назад

"just works" functionality has been vastly improved in the past 5 years, I think. Another 5-10 years and it might be even commercial quality!

@nipa161991 4 года назад

Well, whoever spent a fair bit of time with GNU/Linux as a power user knows that it is not for everyone because after some point it requires some understanding of the system to get things working. That said, it is hard to quantify which platform requires more time over the course of multiple years of use. To my experience while linux platforms have a steeper learning curve to get things up and running windows in multiple cases tries to fix things that are not broken causing issues and making things complicated. Many things can go wrong in both platforms which require non-trivial solutions from the end-user. More users using the free software ecosystem would require the market to adapt usable solutions for these platforms whether these are open source or closed source. So, this is where free software evangelists make a some sense. A bigger user base, in the long term, will provide a better experience for everyone. This was true back in the 2000's and it is still true today. However, the statement that using 'free software is superior than proprietary software in every aspect' is not true until this day.

@rigbyb 11 месяцев назад

So fucking true. Great video

@BoGy1980 3 года назад

Louis, i have customer whose first computer was one with linux; they learned to use it just as fast as another one learns to use a windows or mac pc. 99% of the users just want to be able to browse to facebook and mail some stuff ... I'm a avid installer of xubuntu for new users... also, you pronounced 'suse' wrong... it's su-se, not sews (think of su-say, but without the Y at the end) btw; i'm not an evangelist; i just like people to have the best experience. Since windows 10 is SAAS and updates/upgrades are all free now, i have a lot less new linux users.. only winvista/win7 devices are really valid, as they can convert to linux with a breeze, while win10 often means getting an SSD and extra ram if it has to run fluently