Getting offended easily is a sign of weakness and insecurity. A person or a country for that matter, if he/ she is strong, will not care! All the FIRs and threats just prove Vir Das right. I want to complement him for what he said and the validation he has received. You are already vindicated Vir Das. Go on, spread your charm!
@@KUNAL575 Yes, it does offends. But, at the same time, her right to express her opinion should be protected. Her statement offended and those false statements were countered with profound truthful statements. People need to draw a distinction. What Kangna said is factually incorrect and there is no need to debate it. What Vir said, is not factually incorrect. In fact all those who are claiming to be offended by him are not factually countering him. Nobody is giving counter facts proving Vir wrong. May be its time we might change our national moto of "Satyameva Jayte" to "What Suits me Jayte".
@@KUNAL575 Why not? If you read my previous reply, I said it does "offend". But, its alright. She can speak. After all, we are all about what Tagore's land "where head is held high without fear"! But, statements by anybody's free speech will be fact-checked and with the same right of free speech, will be countered with statements. That's exactly what has been done. Bring your facts and counter statements to challenge what Vir has said. Prove him wrong. If you are offended it does not mean what Vir has said is wrong.
@@johnabram4159 @John Abram @John Abram who said that what vir das said was incorrect? What he said was 100% correct. The problem lies where he said. If he had said it in India is was absolutely fine. He spoke in front of those people who doesn't even know how India is. And by saying those things he's not only creating a false image, but at the same time those who're Indian and are staying there are also will be ashamed. Secondly he was representing India, every country have problems we too have. But that doesn't mean we will go around in public and whine about it. Regarding the freedom of speech, this statement is probably the most misunderstood statement in India, in the article itself it's written that in the name of free speech you cannot hurt someone else sentiment. So in short what I want to say is that most people who had a problem with the speech is not what he spoke, it's where he spoke. It does put India in a bad position.
@@KUNAL575 So, do you think if he don't say those audience wouldn't know? In this age social media and twitter? Why same logic was not applied at the time if Nirbhaya rape? Why BJP/ RSS protested so much that the whole world knew about rape crisis in India? Why couldn't they quietly speak with the govt of filed a PIL? We should be ashamed more about the truth in his speech! And, don't worry. Americans will only appreciate that Indians can speak about their embarrassing truths out in the open.
In west bengal, Thr was no single instance of communal disharmony or clashes from partition till 2012-13...even at the time of 1984, babri masjid or gujrat riot, wb was peaceful.... what happened after that?? Just 🤔 think yourself... How politicians like mamta and modi changed the India...
Fundamental rights doesn't mean talking anything about a person at personal level. Parliament is not discussing anything about free speech and expression and amendments to the constitution. If a two wheeler rider complains about the conditions of the road after paying taxes, he is attacked by political workers attached to municipal corporations. What is Fundamental rights? I feel in India, the fundamental rights are only for the rich and poor are suppressed and oppressed by all political lineage along with the rich. Fundamental rights to food, shelter, clothing and education are all put in the backburner and the rich are not at all fighting for the Fundamental rights of the poor. We have so many billionaires in Indian peninsula.
Both Kanagana and Vir das have all the right to express themselves and so do others to get offended and also to offend them back. Protest but police cases don’t make sense. If they want to offend despite all these protests up to them.
Why FIRs ? ... Filing FIR is the most democratic way of showing one's desent. People have been killed for making fun of religion. Kamlesh Tiwari was butchered for making fun of Prophet ... Why didn't these comedians speak out for free speech the way they are taking a stand for this clown
Rand-Deep is very careful at choosing his words he picks every serious keyword except the words which doesn't go with his biased narrative 😂😂 rajat mentioned mamata banerjee 10 times atleast and he didn't even react 😂
All Indians must stand for freedom and free speech. The hypocrits and cowards must be taken head on. These thugs and bullies when confronted will run away with their tails tucked behind their back side
I would had liked if he had made such Statements in india instead in US because US like such image of india it makes them feel better knowing that they are better than india even they had racial problems he really made india proud in global community.Bashing india is what made him really popular.
Whatever happens in india is anyways known to other countries. It's not like we are north korea or china. Majority of the audience were indians anyways
man everyone knows what's happening in other countries, we know about things school shootings in America too. We are not like China and North Korea, the world knows what happens in India and India knows what happens outside of India. There are various foreign media branches like BBC, every one knows of the problems India faces. Besides, if he had said this in India, who know what would have happened to him?
Salute Vir Das thanks for being blunt. ❤️❤️❤️. Proud of you man. More power to you. PS: people who are commenting on my comment, do so at your will. Bjpeee will give u 2rs.
Dear India, Vir Das who I know not held a mirror to the soul of present day India. Yes he missed to mention some great things that India has done for the world BUT reflect on what he says. Except for his saffron remarks which I bitterly disagree there are elements of truth (up to a point) in his prognosis. I would like to remind Vir that he can say all that he said without getting a pricetag on his head is because of saffron calmness. Remember Salman Rushdie.
Guys, it doesn’t matter how hard you try, the end result would be the same in 2024. Think before you talk… work with the society to prevent any wrongdoings instead of complaining. Ask not what country can do for you, but what you can do for your country..
Rajat highlights Mamata Banerjee but doesn't bring Yogi, Modi and Shah to the argument highlights how politically biased he is while attempting to make a valid point. Really convenient.
Boss.. He is a bjp sympathiser and he is introduced so.. Rajdeep is supposed to be a neutral journo. He doesn't bring up the illegal arrests, political killings happening under her rule. So convenient for an unbiased journo.
We are still mental delinquents, especially the politicians. But Indians give an arm and a leg to watch or acquire the series, 'Yes Minister' the hit UK show, shows by Jay Leno, Jon Stewart, Freddie Prinze, Jon Stewart etc. I have seen Indians, including the BJP bhakts, when they were not in power get into raucous laughter. We still have to learn the art of learning to laugh at ourselves
I don't agree with Kangana's outrageous statement. Nor do I support the legal proceedings against it. It is good that she has said it. She is simply echoing the thoughts of thousands of people in contemporary India who say it in their circles. There are no holy ows in a democracy. Gandhi and Gandhism must be criticised. I am sure Gandhi will survive any criticism and shine all the more. He didn't become the father of the nation by greasing palms. In a way, it was the unanimous decision of the whole world.
Problem is that process is the punishment... The FIR may be kicked out in court when evaluated on its merits but the process to get there is punishment in itself...
Things are getting out of hand since modi came to power there nothing in vir das speech that is bad but in other hand kangan had made remark s towards certain communitys and what is she is saying is a hate speech
8:01 Sardesai says "abuse" should not be allowed. Does Sardesai determine where the freedom of speech ends and "abuse" (verbal) begins? And right to seek judicial remedy is also a very important right in a democracy! So someone filed a case. FYI- Law is subjective and is modulated to societal customs and norms. Fortunately or unfortunately, IN MANY COUNTIES INCLUDING USA, "collective conscience" is a factor in how laws are made and enforced. Cant be avoided
Our Country has no autonomy of Police or Judiciary, how can we rely on the law of land misused and ends up in jail with no reason of any proven illegal.
Comedians usually speak the truth. Politicians this fear them. Especially the dictatorial type. You need to tell those who take offence to lump it or to go live in a total dictatorship. Being offended is not a crime except in dictatorships. Mr Rajat Sethi. You're absolutely bonkers. Just because there are rapes galore in the US, it doesn't mean it's okay to have rapes galore in India. Nobody has said that no offence should be taken. If Mr Sethi is serious he wouldn't talk nonsense like the politicians need to be large-hearted, that's bordering on BS. It's for the judiciary to address that. This man runs his mouth at both ends. Having 400 men rape a girl is what happens in the US? Those who have been wronged legally by being thrown into jail should be compensated and those who were responsible for their wrong imprisonment should be made to pay. When Modi told the whole world that we needed help with building toilets because more than half our people defecated in public, wasn't that a shame to our nation?!!! We need to grow up as a people, we need to mature as a nation. We're just a bunch of whiners who can't get our act together.
The BJP guy seems like the up and coming facist goon in the party. Until the last 2 mins when Rajdeep cornered him, he was making reeking orwellian arguments. He is the kind of guy who hugs the state and not the person
Mr. Rajdeep nobody in the world is ever afraid or frighten about stand up comedians. But you must no what is lies and bullshit what he said was that he was trying to sell his bullshit.
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The funda is simple here. In practice, the authority has the power to take in to custody anyone anywhere for their own reasons. The onus is on you to prove not guilty. Even the God of law comes and argues, the court can never give order against any of these authorities. So in the process of proving not guilty you will take huge amount of stress and will ensure next time you won't repeat this.
Achhaa Ye jo Hindi bolne wala hai isske hisaab se Hindu Culture kaa mazaak udaana/ nichaa dikaana Joke hai Jiske liye Hindu Sanaatan Sanskruti joke hai wo aaram se Pakistan jaa saktaa hai
Oh the problem was that no one was washing the laundry in the family. Even if he hadn't washed it in public, when gone outside the clothes would stink regardless of how much People like you want to hide how things stink at home.
I think the point is being missed in this debate. It is true rape happens and it is deplorable. However, when you link Rape & Hindu (worship), it is a problem!!
If you correctly infer from the clip, the linkage was not between hindu and rapes. It was an oxymoron for a country where we worship goddesses and yet the assaults on the living goddesses in our country is on the rise.
@@ominous_melody2251 Sorry Abhishek, Hindus/Sanatanis are the largest community in the world which worships women as Devi, Sakthi, Kali etc etc. Hence the reference is very direct. Secondly, I have seen (forced to see) the track record of this guy and his tweets. I would not tweet about an enemies wife/mom or sister that way. Thirdly, you call Kennady great!? And you talk about India there knowing fully well how Kennedy was a play boy? Lastly, have we forgotten the laws against blacks and the injustice that was done to one very recently and you demean India there? His agenda was BJP/Modi, unfortunately, he let down India and helped BJP/Modi indirectly!! With that said, I respect you view and beg to differ.
Going to another country and talking bad about your own country to get some money is beyond shame. In this day and age where we are focused on soft power, this is nothing but information warfare. Imagine the image of the NRIs who lives in these countries after these kind of remarks.
Here the flag barrier of free speech appears 🤣🤣filling a FIR is a freedom too..lol the comedian just added a stereotype against indian male again...again they didn't flash the ₹a$€ statement...just leftist lodi media stuff
