French Dassault Rafale Vs Greek F-16 Viper DOGFIGHT | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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On this channel we like to do a lot of dogfighting most videos are some sort of dogfight between 2 different aircraft as we explore their different capabilities. From time to time I like to dabble in Virtual Reality, I think VR is a great new technology and I love to show that stuff off for the channel from time to time.
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@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад

Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ If anyone is wondering why I'm flaring in a guns only fight, its just good practice to flare whenever you can identify that you inside of an IR wez (weapon employment zone), thanks for watching guys and I'll see you in the next one, Much Love.

@ryanmcginn2000 Год назад

Thanks again GS, Loving your videos.

@One-op8hf Год назад

The same fight pakistan vs india

@jamison884 Год назад

Thanks GS. Can you help me out and throw some knowledge at us? 1. You've shown the F-16 is an amazing two-circle fighter. Which other jet is the best "pure" two-circle opponent? 2. Is there an equivalent jet for the one-circle (giving you the same feeling as the F-16 but one-circle)?

@c.ladimore1237 Год назад

was literally typing this question when i saw the pinned comment, cause i were confuzzeled ;-)

@PhilTParker Год назад

GS, Perhaps you get this one a lot…but is the F22 the best dogfighter period, end of story, if the pilot is the most skilled? Rephrased, which plane is the very best of all? I’m thinking F22.

@Hypernefelos Год назад

Nice! Btw, that's _Perseus_ squadron, not Pegasus. Fittingly enough, it's one of two squadrons in the HAF that fly the block 50. The rest fly either block 52/72 or block 30.

@ComradeAndrej Год назад

Greetings from Belgrade Greek brother! :) Was on Crete 2 years ago and saw F-16's flying wild. One took off right as we were getting off our flight... it was magnificent. Hoping to see some Raffale's next time I come, though as far as I know they're stationed near Athens...

@michaeld1170 Год назад

I noticed G effects are turned off. Question is, can you pull that many Gs and stay concious of will you eventually pass out?

@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад

Ya I mean F16 pilots train to maintain 9g for a minimum of 30 seconds and many of them can do a lot more than that.

@shere_kan8329 Год назад

it would be Very Nice to see some BVR fights with the rafale !

@RSAgility Год назад

5:46 was great, poor pilot. Lmao

@andrewrogers3067 Год назад

How come you did Greece vs France? Wouldn’t it make more sense for Greece Rafale vs Turkey F16?

@_RocKhan_ Год назад

In dogfight scenario F16 generally wins, Greeks bought Rafale for BVR, rest in peace if you are thinking of dogfighting with Rafale against F16.

@Unorthodox_kidd Год назад

Rafale pilot ejected into the ground😭💀

@aangxazor5759 Год назад

Ι was thinking about this a minute ago

@Miguelcooldude777 Год назад

Day 107 asking for F35C vs F/A-18F

@Mike_Romeo Год назад

There are no good f35 and f18f mods

@shannon1267 Год назад

Day 17000 asking for 2v2

@Miguelcooldude777 Год назад

@@Mike_Romeo he did a vid with the F35C in the past an recently made a video with the F/A-18F in it

@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад

I might be working on something LIKE this but it might take some time running into some technical issues at the present time.

@Miguelcooldude777 Год назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder take all the time in the world 👍🏻😁

@Jr-uh2so Год назад

man, the iq in this duel is on full display. It's such a great tactical tutorial! The instruction along with the technical skill makes these videos so advantageous to anyone picking up or expanding on their DCS time.

@GeneralKatarn Год назад

🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷

@randomdude7096 Год назад

Nice fights. However, I am not sure how many actual F-16 pilots can sustain turning continuously between 6.5 and 9.4 Gs for 45 to 60 seconds at a time, to outrate the Rafale.

@samarkand1585 Год назад

Aye that looks like the main weakness of DCS and simulators in general to me. They don't punish and simulate the strain of high G quite as much as real life would

@ralfvanbogaert3451 25 дней назад

@@samarkand1585 Agree, but exactly how would you simulate it more accurately?

@MathsPlans Год назад

We want RAFALE official module !!!

@Mike_Romeo Год назад

We have Rafale at home (Eurofighter)

@mcdonnelldouglasf-4ephanto607 Год назад

@@Mike_Romeo More like We have Eurofighter at home (Rafale)

@ayugoslav5554 Год назад

@@Mike_Romeo Rafale obliterates Eurofighter

@ZeAldhyr 8 месяцев назад

@@ayugoslav5554 You missed the joke.

@vdeuuu_7608 Год назад

It would be great if you actually fly the Rafale

@brianbriones5309 Год назад

I second this

@davidmariet5567 Год назад

I would love that as well.

@jordanaria2035 Год назад

He never fly the Rafale all this time. I wonder why

@navyseal1689 Год назад

@@jordanaria2035 He never fly russian planes too, pro american i guess

@misterroongaboonga6738 Год назад

@@navyseal1689 He flew Su 27, 35 and 57. He flew Mig 29 but that wasn’t exactly a dogfight video

@ToddEStewart Год назад

The Rafale is such a beautiful plane, very French.

@jassimaltoki3580 Год назад

Love the Rafale videos. Keep em coming!!

@giannis_dg2520 Год назад

YESS FINALLY GREECE🇬🇷🇬🇷

@gregkar2736 Год назад

he has done many videos using Greek liveries.

@itsumonihon Год назад

Good video. Was very surprised you allowed the Rafale to get such a good position on you in fight #1 - that two circle positioning should have been a strong queue for you to change altitude immediately, that was probably the only thing that could have saved you from being hit.

@seanmurphy7011 Год назад

The Rafale has to be the most under-rated fighter out there.

@navyseal1689 Год назад

F16 is underrated too

@sharequsman596 Год назад

@@navyseal1689 no

@fordforever6814 Год назад

Because it's French. If it was American it would be a best seller.

@musaratjahan7954 Год назад

I mean. It also got our-rated so...

@beatboxbuggi6884 Год назад

Eurofighter, Gripen and Rafale all seem to not get the respect they deserve. It’s crazy that people are thinking of replacing Typhoons with the F-35 pretty much just because of stealth and electronics

@mtlflif9449 Год назад

As a greek,I aprove!

@doncalypso Год назад

@Growling Sidewinder can we have a "Bandit Unknown" where *YOU* fly the Rafale?

@tsukemono1 Год назад

LOVE the commentary during the fight. Really learn something that would otherwise go unnoticed without it. Another great vid.

@PDM_naseem Год назад

ahhh the consistent uploads really do make my day.... GODSPEED!

@giannis_dg2520 Год назад

Also Greece has f16 and rafales

@tbenstead Год назад

We see a lot of awesome videos of you in the F-16 against strong 1 circle bandits demonstrating how to force the 2 circle and then use the strengths of that jet to dominate the fight. I would love to see you do something similar for the F/A-18 or SU-27 on how to force the 1 circle to counter the strengths or the F-16 and other strong 2 circle jets. Obviously one way is to just bring Fox-2s so they have to stay 1 circle to jam the WEZ but it would be interesting to see how it can be done with guns only as well. Alternatively would be interesting to see how the F-16 does in more Fox-2 merges. I'm sure the high off bore helmet sight gives it an advantage there too but maybe hurt by the fact that it has to jam the WEZ and can't ditch into the 2circle as easily?

@kgboftheussr3856 Год назад

GS, as long as I remember you have made many videos with many great aircraft but barely few if any flying the Rafale. So please show the Rafale some love and drop some videos with you in the Rafale. Rafale vs F-16 with you on the Rafale would be a great starting point.

@pawer16 Год назад

It would be lovely if you were flying the rafale. Im sure there s a lot to do with this plane in dogfight

@happyhaunter_5546 Год назад

Do you think you'll do more mission and cinematic type stuff again? I love all your vids but I found you from the F-18 carrier missions and loved that stuff! I imagine it's a lot of work to make stuff like that, I just miss the carrier takeoffs and landings with the mission brief and stuff!

@sgt.grinch3299 Год назад

Can we get a WW1 blimp vs blimp pistol fight? That would be fantastic.

@stinkyfungus Год назад

With differential thrust of course 🤣

@EdMcStinko Год назад

Great idea

@Anarchy_420 Год назад

PLEASE fly The Rafale VS Typhoon!🙏

@Anarchy_420 Год назад

T-45 Goshawk VS F-14 Tomcat Test Fight! J-7 VS MIG-21 J-10 VS SU-27 MB-339 Aermacchi VS AJS-37 Viggen Mosquito VS Pucara Please fly Planes on the left!🙏

@Sikorinko Год назад

Dassault Rafale Vs Euro Fighter

@doncalypso Год назад

"Allons enfants de la patrie le jour de gloire est arrivé!!!" ---- French National Anthem ---

@nbs-spike5822 Год назад

Growing up, I never liked the F-16. I was always an F-14/15 fan (hundreds of models). I am becoming a fan of the F-16 because of you. I just never understood it. Now I get it.

@MaidikIslarj Год назад

That lawn dart is still a beauty 50 years later. Awesome watching that little thing wipe the floor with all the big boys

@Raz.C Год назад

re - 6:26 "I personally think it's easier to force a 2-circle fight than a 1-circle fight." Dude, I asked that question so many times when I first started watching these videos and no one here ever answered which was easier to force. I feel so much better now...

@zanaduz2018 Год назад

It's easier to force 2-circle... in a guns-only environment. With Fox-2's, 1-circle to jam the WEZ is far more prevalent.

@falcon1204 Год назад

As zanaduz points out, a fox 2 fight its a different animal There it's easier/more advantageous to be a good 1 circle fighter as it will allow you to quickly cash all your energy for a quicker fox 2 shot (in the Hobs era at least ).

@fatsamgr Год назад

🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷

@jonathanlorenz8848 Год назад

I have a video request. My uncles flew an F-4 and a F-111. Unfortunately they both died in separate training accidents before I was born. Major Bob Rudiger's F-111 crashed on the Isle of Sky; years before his brother Jack's F-4 crashed in Spain. I was wondering if you could do some kind of a joint strike mission with an F-4 and an F-111 so I could see how these jets would be utilized?

@Plymouth-Interlocking Год назад

Nice, I love watching the F16 do what it does best. I wonder if when it was designed the older aim-9's still required you to maneuver to your opponents six to get the best shot. As you have demonstrated its not the same with the HOB fox 2's . Anyway great videos as always

@Akm72 Год назад

You're correct, when it was designed rear-aspect AIM-9s were still standard though by the time it entered service the all-aspect versions were taking over.

@MichaelMedley4270 Год назад

Please do F35C 🇺🇸🆚 🇦🇴🇷🇺SU-35s dogfight I want to go head to head Who with me?

@samicolgecen4027 Год назад

Hell yeah

@williamduckworth305 Год назад

funny how i read a comnent from a guy on the sukhoi fan boy love page...that the f16 was comparable to a golf cart...compared to gen 4+ fighters...jus sayin...

@raphaellosada9694 Год назад

Can’t believe it’s been two years since you versed ATE let’s see him in Rafale vs you in a raptor guns only.

@GG-gr2px Год назад

right.... dogfighting at 8+ Gs for 90% of the time.... good stuff... just like reality.... hahahaha

@JohnDoe_Poland Год назад

Just watched one of your videos that wasn’t watched yet. And it’s about modern equipment and right after started complaining to myself. What a shame there isn’t more videos on his Chanel. Bang now there is :D

@colestreitcs Год назад

Love the French Rafale!

@husseinjuma5997 Год назад

Rafale vs Euro-Fighter

@nico_b.999 Год назад

YES! finally some Rafale action, this makes me even prouder of my country 😍

@Paul_Sergeyev Год назад

Attempt 10! Anniversary one! Could you please show us ground strafes with different weapon setups from ground perspective? We all know how A10 Brrrt sounds from the ground and looks on target, some even know that for Viper's 20mm, but I really wonder how a 37 mm, 6 x 50 cal., 23 mm MiG-21 and 30 mm MiG-29 long strafes would look and sound on target! Also, could you please bring out the flying lol machine I-16 against the F-22?

@dwarfkilla91 Год назад

first?

@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад

actually yes. confirmed you are first.

@vdeuuu_7608 Год назад

And to this I answer : Blue shell.

@dwarfkilla91 Год назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder Can you do a video flying the F-35?

@cz75fanatic Год назад

Any chance of getting the Rafael pilot back on to dogfight now that you've had even more experience?

@Stuff749 Год назад

You should do a f16 vs mitage2000

@jimmcneal5292 Год назад

I'm interested if fighters with high thrust/weight ratio(EF-2000, F-22, Su-57, J-20) can use high yo-yo to "win" two circle with F-16(if I remember normally at least first two struggled to)

@donaldcornley9963 Год назад

Knowing the limitations and energy management, great tutorial.

@oleksii.malovanyi Год назад

Would interesting to see fox-2 rounds and see how these fights change with the same fighters

@Airknightangel Год назад

Love to see the viper still being strong, man! Designed to be the best dogfighter indeed. Also what a beautiful aircraft, I mean look at these curves!

@xriskava2151 Год назад

A Greek F16! Being a Greek myself and considering that the F16 is my all-time favorite, I think something moved in my pants reading the video title!

@truthseeker9454 Год назад

Your pet hamster? 🐹 😄

@MCItreble2023 Год назад

Hi GS, is there a J20 in DCS yet? If so, can you please dogfight and BVR fight it with the Raptor and Felon please? Your videos are fantastic btw

@salutarydreams520 Год назад

Just wondering. Aren't 2 circle fighters at a disadvantage in the modern era since everyone has HOBS Fox-2s?

@asher4845 Год назад

true dat

@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад

ya but they have options with the counter hobs stuff, they're not fully out of the fight, but ya probably at a disadvantage in today's environment.

@misterbig9025 Год назад

Rafalé is an expensive French junk

@ingoos Год назад

iceman textbook bfm

@Pincer88 13 дней назад

I can't help wondering what the Rafale pilot could have done differently. The viper seemed to be more than capable to deny a two circle engagement, so flying to its (the Rafale's) strengths seemed out of the question. What's the left? Take it vertical every time, using its thrust-weight ratio I think it has over the Viper?

@rmp5s Год назад

F-16 is the best! Was watching the Firebirds on the airshow stream yesterday...so cool!!

@clementnoel3906 Год назад

F-16 isn't best plane, Rafale is most polyvalente and best maneuverable than F-16

@rmp5s Год назад

@@clementnoel3906 lol

@adelaidesngan604 Год назад

🤣🤣😂😂 Rafale best

@nomjodascnelnombre Год назад

Nice video! But I really love those fx2 fights

@foxco2378 Год назад

I remember at Eglin AFB when I was a kid, the New f16s in late 70s flying! Yes Im older lol

@peyters Год назад

Day 20 of asking for A-10 VS F-35

@zincfinger3817 Год назад

This was great. And interesting. I read a series of SI FI books called "Fear the Sky" Really good. Nothing actually to do with flying but at one point 2 humanoid aliens got into a dog fight with one another. One in an F16 and one in the Rafale. The writer favored the Rafale.

@davidmariet5567 Год назад

@growling you don't play the rafale very often (or maybe never played?) can you defeat a Viper with a Rafale in the dogfight, gun only? A Gripen and a Typhon as well with a Rafale?

@romaaeterna1378 Год назад

I’d love to have a "special" round at the end in wich the underdog/looser has to use a wanky strategy/advantage to win. Or the superior could get a disadvantage.

@MAXIMUSLOK 9 месяцев назад

Perseus squadron will provided with f35a block 4 As for the rest 40 f35a 40 rafales f4 in the end 83 viper's block 72 38 viper's block 70 Already The first haf f35 it's under construction 24 rafales f3r it's under delivery And viper's are already upgraded by the haf's stockpile

@JessidGallardo Год назад

You should do the US vs Russia thing again but with the rule that you can't choose the same jet twice so it's more interesting. Do like 5 or 6 rounds so you can have different engagements. Also make it bandit unknown so you have to choose your jet carefully.

@faqirmohammadabdullah2906 Год назад

Good to know PAF F16 pilots stand a good chance against this thing in a dogfight 😄 (ofc I pray it never comes to it)

@b1rd317 Год назад

We need a rafale pov 🥺

@askforgreg1216 Год назад

"...could be a prrrooblem..." *CHAFF, FLARES, CHAFF, FLARES* lmao comedy in unexepected places.

@ryanrundell8538 Год назад

Day 11: F 15 STOL vs SU 57 dogfight

@LighthouseProductions1 Год назад

I have a suggestion you might find downright fun to do, I suggest you Dogfight the Polikarpov I-16 vs the Chengdu J-10, and Su-57 vs the J-20

@Yonada Год назад

Gorgeous plane, the Rafale.

@ahuman2954 Год назад

That fatality sound man 😅😂😂😂

@Mauros-Lykos Год назад

The Rulers of the Aegean

@effsixteenblock50 Год назад

This is awesome! One question though - why are you dumping flares in a guns only fight?

@__-fm5qv Год назад

I think it's just done as good practice and out of habit. Nothing worse that getting into a FOX-2 fight and forgetting to or improperly flaring because you're out of practice.

@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад

Answered in the pinned comment

@effsixteenblock50 Год назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder I'm looking for a pinned comment. Why don't I see it? I've sorted by both "newest" and "top" and still don't see it.

@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад

@@effsixteenblock50 well thats strange, youtube seems to have unpinned it on me, my apologies you should be able to see it now.

@effsixteenblock50 Год назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder I do! Makes sense! Thanks!

@cjcolehour2778 Год назад

I would really like to see this matchup again but this time it's a hobs fight, I think the Rafale would do a lot better in that situation (and was probably more designed for that than gun dogfights like the f-16 was)

@o0KillerWolf0o Год назад

What is a hobs fight?

@No-xv1fp Год назад

@@o0KillerWolf0o I think its high off boresight

@ethantheceoofsigmaenergy7140 Год назад

Great video, I dont know what you are doing but I keep getting sucked into your videos! One minute I’m just checking out a module and the next I’m going through all your videos haha, keep up the good work you are awesome

@TeoPilot Год назад

YESS GREECE ! thats my cuntry

@Gcatt1 Год назад

How did all those shots miss-lol?! And he seemed to know it even though the first volley was right below, then right above, then right below...they weren't short.

@EGLately Год назад

these are just mods tho right? like these aren't official aircraft stats. So it's hard to determine how accurate these battles are

@sorryociffer Год назад

F16 is like taking on a professional knife fighter in a phone booth..

@GORANJOVIC631 Год назад

Would love to see you flying the Rafale !

@DaveSParty Год назад

I think I'd pay to see you fly in an actual f-16 military simulator. You put on a clinic today.

@canorhon7318 Год назад

I think I know why some of your viewers use anything but “rate” while describing rate fight. auto captions is to blame..

@socshooter Год назад

Can we imagine the F-16 flying with the F-35 P&W F135? Can we shove the F-135 into the F-16 in DCS????

@Chio_OB Год назад

Growling Sidewinder I wish you here back in IL2 early days to teach me one and two circle fights, I had 2 squad mates who where both fantastic natural dogfighters (with insane kill death ratios) who intimately understood turning fights in their bones, neither had a great way to describe it. You do, a masterclass in technique and communication to us mortals

@marioshadjikyriacou3381 10 месяцев назад

0:35 ... What's the point of spending billions in R%D to build another mirage? Rafalle is far better in all aspects!!

@roter_milan Год назад

Maybe it's the language barrier but I still don't understand what exactly you mean by winning and loosing cues. Can you please explain that again? Greetings Milan

@PatrickCarricoKY Год назад

Growling SNIPEwinder.

@radiozelaza Год назад

I recommend the 1994 novel by Larry Bond, "Cauldron", with a lot of dogfights between French Rafales and Polish F-15, of all things ;)

@stinkyfungus Год назад

A wise man (lol wut? 🤪) once said "everybody got a plan until he gets punched in the face..."

@Ga1ax7_ex1sts Год назад

day 21 of asking for a YF-12 video

@Thetiersofmadness Год назад

Day 10 asking for su35S vs Eurofighter Typhoon guns-only dogfight

@hugobourgeais5743 8 месяцев назад

i'm curious if it was ATE's in the rafale, how the fight would end it would be interesting to see that in another video

@TimelyAbyss Год назад

Day 1 asking for people to stop counting the days they’ve been requesting matchups

@Proximax9 Год назад

This stuff is so cool. I would love it if you could at some point show some basic transition moves on how to try and force a one circle. I know you have done it multiple times but I still cant quite grasp the concept :D

@ltstaffel5323 Год назад

He forced 2 circle by always following the opponent's tail, and you go for 1 circle by doing the opposite: pulling across and into them. You try to make it nose-to-nose instead of nose-to-tail.

@Proximax9 Год назад

@@ltstaffel5323 yeah, but if I reverse i to his nose he will gun me down 🤣