Fridgestuck: Dancestors ♈♉♊♋ (Facts/Theories) 

Decendant + Ancestor = Dancestor

You forgot to mention that damara killing meenah is also a clear invertion of the condesce killing the handmaid. Also you can see at least one god tier damara in the ghost army in the pages leading up to collide.

STOP SCROLLING. 14:07 *"karkat pantus"* ok. Carry on.

your job should be making homestuck videos

Just one thing that I saw. The Sufferer’s visions weren’t because of Kankri being a blood player, it’s because of Kankri being a Seer. It is also shown in the Alpha kid timeline with Alpha Rose. She could see snippets of the future so she led herself and Dave to prepare for Dirk and Roxy. I would say that the Vantas’s blood aspect is more involved in how Karkat and the Sufferer both had a way of making people work together and friendship and stuff. Yeah. Also, congrats on graduating!!!

Yes we do know which came first, as karkat mentions a "second batch" of wrigglers that were created after himself and the other post-scratch troll players. He says he doesnt know who they are and where they came from and wonders(ironically) if they are the "true" players of th adventure. The reason for them being created in the postscratch session is due to the "glitch" that brought LE into existence, as it forces them to be causally bound to do the scratch un order to be created in the first place by karkat

Loving this so far, but I feel moved to contest an idea I disagree with, and an outright inaccuracy, in order. 1) The Burgundy caste may largely showcase herbivore teeth, but that doesn't preclude the teeth from being a trait linked to Aries. The descriptions for the 'True' True signs from the Extended Zodiac (for lack of a better term- I'm referring to True Aries, True Gemini, etc.) tell us that having those signs as your True Sign also means you have an usually strong relationship to the corresponding Blood Caste. That implies that the Rust Caste itself is somehow linked to Aries, Bronze to Taurus, and so on. [HIVESWAP/FRIENDSIM SPOILERS] This also seems to be manifesting as members of each Caste being linked to said True True Sign's Aspect. IE: All Rustbloods seem linked to Time, by way of Aries, as well as their own True Signs' Aspect. All Goldbloods seem to echo Doom, and so on. This is holding true in both Hiveswap with Xefros and Dammek, and every troll introduced thus far in the Friendsim. 2) Versions of Damara *do* show up to fight LE in the end. I don't think you can see her in Collide, but if you look at the shot where Karkat and Meenah are posing with the army in the background on page 7994, you can see one (1) God-Tier Damara in the bottom right. Couple of Araneas and Meenahs, too. I love your work, btw! Excited to see other youtubers covering Homestuck. Keep it up!!!

you forgot a fact the fact tht rufioh is the *best boy*

Posting on 6/12, clever Glad to see your videos again. Can't wait for more

I assumed that Feferi's euotpia world tried to give him a sign, but he thought that signs were offensive so didn't take it.

Please tell me someone else also loves Kankri Please He's my favorite

Another thing about Kankri's quirk, it makes the cancer symbol when saying the word sym69l :D

OOO I DIDNT NOTICE THE BLACK MARKS ON THE WRISTS HOW DID I MISS THAT??

Another possibility for Mituna's helmet is that it could simply be intended as the Beforus version of the type of helmet worn by special needs kids with developmental disabilities, seizure disorders, poor balance or equilibrium and those prone to self-injurious behaviors such as head banging.

Just an alternate take on the relationship between Mituna and Kurloz: While I do think the fact he's lucid around him alone is almost certainly a product of his voodoos, I'm not sure if I agree that it's likely a malicious act. Judging by the fact that the other, known time he hurt someone he was in a quadrant with he bit his own tongue out, Kurloz seems prone to extreme guilt over such things. I think it's possible that he does it to, in some way, atone for what he likely did-or at least had some part in-with Mituna.

Well I think the dancestors are continuing exaggerations of our 12 troll heroes. For example, if Karkat was too exaggerated in his anger he would turn out like Kankri. Kanaya with her fashion exaggerated to Porrim's goth feminist fashion sense. Nepeta with her shipping would've gotten deaper resulting in Meulin. Just a little fact. :3

iirc damara snapping wasn't because of rufioh breaking up with her, it was because of meenahs bullying about the fact that rufioh had cheated on her

i was always wondering, did the Sufferer really retain Kankri's memory of Befuros because of his connection to his blood aspect or is it because he was a seer. The reason i say this is because post-scratch Rose was also either implied to retain her memories after the scratch or tap into her seer powers to an extent.

"No bearing on the plot whatsoever" *gLARES AT ARANEA*

Lmao @ people saying damara overreacted Firstly He didnt dump her She dumped him because he was CHEATING on her with horrus. CHEATING.

"Karkat being crabby." Me: ARE YOU FEELING IT NOW MR KRABS?

4:50 Actually on the wiki it was shown there was at least one Damara that was in collide, meaning she could've been one of the Damaras to pull free from English's servitude

I would have liked to see more of the dancestors. Most of them feel like wasted characters in NS. Some of them like Mituna o Kurlos seemed to have important information of participation in their arcs, but that misteries never got revealed anyway :/

9:17 It's just a theory that Mituna did this to keep Kankri from god tiering cause he goes insane and kills his friends when doing so, But that's just a theory...A GAME THEORY Edit: I personally think Kankri pretends to be a celibate (or isn't pretending) cause of his heartbreak.

Congratulations on graduating

"Aradia Serket" This channel is the best lol

I always thought Mituna's helmet looked like the Star Wars fighter pilot helmet

(mentions mega man) *(shows mega man x)* *_(two times)_* how dare you

Background music in Mituna's section. Now I wanna go watch Everyman Hybrid again.

😆Woho wellcome back . We hope to see you play hiveswap friendsim .😇

pretty great video!! iM SO EXCITED FOR MEULIN AND PORRIM!!!

Video up: Check Awesome peeps leaving comments: Check Good! :) Now... if you excuse me... * SWITCH-es on Nintendo E3 livestream*

I love this! it's been so long since I've seen a decent homestuck video let alone an analysis on characters and fan theories and headcanons. Keep up the good work!!

karkat and his friends were the first gen, the dancestors were made from the ectoslime the text implies he has no idea that the other 12 trolls were their ancestors, meaning that karkat saw him and his friends on the monitors

Also one of the many damaras was seen fighting Lord English so that means at least one of them was able to not give in to lord english/horuss, rufioh, meenah, and kurloz

3:10 I've probably said this on one of your previous videos, but you are like the ONLY person who doesn't say "Pisces" or "Pi-ex-ees" or whatever when trying to say their last name, and I appreciate that a lot more than I probably should Lmao.

Congrats on graduating! Also, Nintendo at E3 AND a Fridgestuck video on the same day? Awesome. As for a theory you missed, it's possible that Damara might also be a reference to porn, especially stuff like gore/guro, considering her lewd and violent/aggressive manner of speaking.

Fun fact! The dancestors where the ones who scratched meaning they where the original! Karkat and crew where the new session. :)

*clicks on this* *hears the beginning* Honestly same

Congrats on your graduation, I wish all the luck in finding a job, it's not so scary once you get the hang of interviews. I think just finishing up the dansestors would be good for now. Maybe a video on one of the human kids would be cool afterwards.

Well since the post scratch trolls are listed as Alpha, as are the post scratch humans which show up later in the story and wouldn't have existed if it weren't for the scratch. Then I guess the same can be said for them. Then again it could be a JuJu style paradox

0:05-0:12 You're not alone sister.

5:35 "...Handrew Hussie..." This just seemed funny to me. Sorry if it's rude.

Hey guys! I'm a lord of time! any space or time users here?

Homestuck is alive :> -andwillneverdie-

Just curious, what's your specific godtier and sign?

Excited for my zodiac brother Tavros I actually relate to him, Socially awkward at first Wanting to always be young, When older unafraid to speak out against what I think is wrong And so on and so forth.

Why are Karkat and Cancri considered mutants for their red blood when Aradia has red blood too?

His sweater is the chains of oppression.

So the Dancestors are the younger versions of the Ancestors?

Here is a fridge fact about Rufioh, Hussy was inspired by Rufioh, Dante Bosko Loves Homestuck "Let's Read Homestuck" Made a casting call for Rufioh Dante Bosko asked to play Rufioh. Full circle. Bangarang...

Actually I think the Alternian trolls are the true ancestors (like the 4 Alpha kids) of the trolls' paradox clones, mainly because Karkat, the ecto-biologist of the troll session, didn't recognize the 12 extra grubs that were created. If the Beforus trolls were the origin of the paradox clones, then he would've figured out that the 12 extra grubs were their Ancestors.

the only way I want to see Lord English be served....is with his head on a silver platter.

Bit late but apparently the dancestors are basically what the fandom thinks the trolls are like for the purpose of fanfics. So basically canon fandomstuck

“No, nooooo, NOOOOOOOOO” Kankri is so triggered by portions actions

The background music at eight minutes. Everyman Hybrid anyone?

>says Mega Man >Shows a picture of Mega Man X ?????

i thought is said "dance-estors" when i first saw it...

Loking at this I just recalled Homestuck High... *shivers me timbers*

posting on karkats birthday.... clever......

Congratulations on your graduation! Hope you find the perfect job for you. I'll be praying for you. :)

Okay this may seems like a history lesson but Rufioh's post-scratch self (The Summoner) is kind of also a parallel to the philippines hero Andres Bonifacio who when the philippines was still in the reign of the spaniards were starting to rebel, Before the Bonifacio started a revolution he was a follower of Jose Rizal (Also a parallel to the Signless) who wrote books and poems against spain and was held capture and sent to jail and then executed, After the execution Bonifacio decided to make a revolution called KKK which is short for 'Kataas-taasan, Kagalang-galangang, Katipunan ng mga anak ng bayan', The revolutuon was a secret until a man told the spaniards and that's when the revolutuon decided to attack and won in the battle. So in short the Summoner's is probably based on Andres Bonifacio and basically both made a revolution against those who has higher standards than themselves

Oh noooo RU-vid didn't give me a notice! Glad to have you back tho

woooooooooo

OMG YAY :D

Aw yeah that's the good stuff ;-;

Omg I waited so long for this episode of my favorite show on RU-vid! ^o^ I love you LaureledEevees.

That "I Feel Dead Inside" Felt So Jenuine I Mean I Bet It Was

never clicked so fast

Oh right...The signless plushy in hiveswap...

If Gamzee got his time machines as a gift from Damara then how did Vriska end up with them post retcon...

Whoo, can't wait for more! Your videos are always so great!

blessed homestuck loore

rejoice my bretheren! for laureled as finally uploaded! praise lord laureled.

This was awesome Ive always been super curious about the relationship of kurloz and meulin

I’m so glad your back! Really missed your vids! :D

Why did Porrim not try to sleep with Kankri? They're all related, sure, but Kankri, specifically, is Blood.

Considering the prescratch session was before the post scratch session, wouldn't kankri and the others be the original children? So karkat biologically would be the ancestor?

Why. Why the sushi cat music. This is an excessive amount of nostalgia, not only for the *last* time I've watched fridgestuck, but for sushi cat.

Congrats on graduating and good luck finding a job

I have no fucking clue why im watching a homestuck lore video in 2021, we're really at that much a low point in this pandemic

It just occurred to me that Karkat probably had to see the Sufferer's group being happy and knew that it didn't end well.

funnily enough, I'm watching this right after I graduated and I'm also looking for a job 😵‍💫

Also I guess that maybe Kankri lacks a sign simply because nobody came up with one for him. Maybe nobody had an idea of what his sign should be? Or maybe they were trying to figure out which sign group he'd go in?

yes, i love the hyper-experimental 1/2prospit1/2derse skategrind manouver

Yes! Jen-senpai came through!! Congratulations on graduating! Hope you find a job soon!!

frickn love this show, u do great work!!!

no you DIDN'T just use sushi cat for the intro I -hate- love you

And then there was Joey & Jude's Signless Plush. That thing is something of a mystery I wonder what's gonna happen with it. Probably nothing super important and just Kinda Neat.

But wait. Karkat makes the remark once figuring out the reference behind the dancestors planet "OH BEFORE "US"" sooo, maybe it was the beta trolls who were the original trolls. Or maybe along the line the ancestors somehow had part to play in their own "ectobiology" creation. But that's only headcanon at this point. Or maybe it was doc scratch who had part to play for the dancestors creation, through aradias ancestor of course. But. Then again, compared to most homestuck conspiracists, i only have little knowledge of the comic, and have spent most of my four years focusing mainly on the shipping aspect of the fandom. So take my word with only a small grain of salt. :oP (Also Rufio cheated on Damara.)

13:44 nearly collapsed a lung with how exasperated that sigh was

This was real good. Yes, people might complain Becuase you cramming in so many, but this was really well done with all references to each one just right. This idea is rather good since you can get through the crew faster.

PLEASE DO A JADE HARLEY OR JANE CROCKER FRIDGESTUCK

Wait.. t1ck = tick my God do you know what this means... SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONN!

The Dancestors felt like dead weight tbh, only an few of them were relevant while the others were just useless romance shit.

can't wait for the kurloz one!!

I swear if someone god tired after I tried to kill them I would be absolutely pissed.

I love the little art you used for the signless during the outro, it was hilarious

I like how we ignored Mituna eating dirt after that sick jump

so what is you sign/bloodcolour, mine is cancer