This whole bit is like when you go over to a friend's house and his parents are having a really big fight. You just kind sit there with a slightly worried face the whole time.
Well when it gets REALLY awkward is when you consider maybe they're way poorer than you.... and yeah maybe you could BUY 50 different "great" games for the GBA ... then you realize their poor kid is still using that old B&W 1-inch thick rectangle BLOCK b/c the dozen games it took him 2 years to collect, came from yard sales and was *all they could afford*
Not really. If you just look at the original Game Boy library, "The N64 of handhelds" is a pretty apt description. Handful of system sellers, and a whoooole lot of mediocre bullshit by people who didn't really know how to make the system sing. The Game Boy Color and Game Boy Advance are *not* the Game Boy. But judging from a lot of comments for this video, we seem to have a lot of people (who I assume were maybe just a bit too young to have had an actual original Game Boy as their first portable system) kind of smearing the Game Boy Color and Advance libraries into their memories of what the *Game Boy*'s library was like, which makes me wonder if younger people even understand that the original Nintendo portable system was a way more limited piece of hardware than its successors.
Pat was mainly right, but Crazy Talk still activated since Kirby's Dreamland on the Gameboy is the first one. Kirby's Adventure on the NES is the second one.
actually, given the context and how he said it, the reason why kirby's adventure is "the first one" is because that's where kirby actually comes to his identity as a pink puffball that absorbs powers. he already knows kirby's dream land was the first one.
I just noticed: Woolie's cam has lower framerate than other's. That would mean that his camera auto-selected higher exposure time… because it decided that HE'S NOT LIGHT ENOUGH >:]
I still come back to this. After the breakup, after everyone's settled into their content, after years of rewatching lps and listening to Castle Superbeast. This is still the one thing I find my way back to.
Its really rare when Matt and Pat team up against Woolie aggressively, not behind his back but face to face. ...hmm, now that I look back at what I typed, it does seem like a sexual innuendo.
OnimaxBlade They weren't shitting on the GBA, they all agree the GBA is legendary, Matt and Pat are shitting on the original Game Boy. Not Color, not Advance or Advance SP, just the actual Game Boy.
Pat is still the angry, little ginger we all love even if he barely does the gimmick anymore. Woolie... well... let just say Woolie is going to ask Pat to meet him on the football field later
I love how the setup for this segment could not prepare anyone for what was to come: a menial nothing story about Nintendo putting up a patent for the Game Boy that was placed near the end of the podcast, most likely to segue to the mail section. In another, worse, timeline, this would've ended up as nothing.
I am going to say something really raw here. I loved the old black and white Gameboy. My mom got me one for my birthday and I remember coming home from school that day, it was a terrible day. Usual kids picked on me. Oh, I went to an inner city school where in the early 90s, our classroom size was STILL 40 or more students to a teacher. There were over 8,000 of us in the entire district. It was beyond brutal. I came home, was not thrilled, and my mom handed me a copy of Mario Land and I'm like "Mom, I can't play this" and then she hands me a fucking Gameboy and I can remember fucking crying. That thing went everywhere with me (EXCEPT FOR SCHOOL, one of my classmates would have stabbed me for it. I'm not joking, one time on the bus, a 2nd grader beat up a kindergartner and splattered his blood on the windows, it was there for 2 weeks till the parents complained). I loved my Gameboy, I had all the Marios, all the Mega Mans, Zelda, etc, etc. Whenever I had to go over to my Grandma's after school, she always swung by my house to get it before coming to school to pick me up. I was almost never home as a child, constantly going between houses. The Gameboy was my only friend since I didn't live a stationary life to form friendships. Then I got the Gameboy Color, and Pokemon, etc, etc. Then I remember being in the hospital for my birthday, my mom comes to visit, this is years later, what does she hand me, a white Gameboy Advance and fucking Sonic. Loved those handhelds. I remember taking it with me to vacation, sitting in the car as we drove along the ocean. Ugh. I even bought myself a 2DS last year for Christmas, with Shantae, and was bed ridden for days since we all go the real flu then. Sigh, I love handhelds. They come with you when your Genesis abandons you, or when FFVII can't come out to play, but your Gameboy follows you to the beach, where you can't go out cuz you're a filthy ginger like me and have to sit under an umbrella or burst into flames. Sorry, a stream of memories flooded me as these dudes bitched about the quality of the Gameboy. Woolie's passion here really brought out my emotion for the old handheld.
I listened to this bit in audio-only and I pictured Pat glowing intensely red, the veins on his neck pulsating as he shouted in anger, and his arms flailing about. Gotta say, the reality of it was much less exciting, but no less pedantic.
Lol Pat actively antagonizing Woolie. You can just feel Woolie being wrong because Matt, who normally keeps out of their arguments, actually chimes in to call out Woolie.
Mario Land 1 and 2, Wario Land, Kirby's Dreamland 1 and 2, Dragon Warrior Monsters, Final Fantasy Legends, Link's Awakening, Gargoyle's Quest, Tetris just from the top of my head
Just goes to show how phrasing can start or stop an argument. "There are many good games on the original gameboy." "I enjoy many of the games on the original gameboy."
It all becomes clear when "The Gameboy brought me Kirby." Two different arguments are being disputed here, which Pat points out. I still love all three of them, but you can learn a few things about how *not* to argue effectively from this section.
Alex Aguilar - I respect the Game Boy for its place in history and for being the first truly successful handheld console. I still don't think it's a great console. The GBC and especially the GBA have significantly better libraries than the Game Boy had, and they can even play the few great original GB games that do exist.
Its one of those times where someone fights logic with nostalgia. Woolie has nostalgia for the Gameboy but can't even really name a lot of actual good games on it so he had to look up a list and look for answers, he was relying on his childhood memories of it being good rather than looking at it now.
OH YEAH??? 15:19 was Babby Pat really right though? ....who knows though, maybe in his own 『Crazy 』way he helped it become one of the most successful titles ever?
I admit I only got in at Persona 5 so I have no room to talk, but Pat flatout saying he was only in it for the S links seemed very unlike someone who was as hyped for it as he initially was.
None of them have played a Persona game before 3. Ironically, Woolie got into the series with Arena, and he's the one who's actually beaten 3 and The Answer.
Although Woolie was wrong, you gotta give him props for standing up for what he believes in. With that said; Mom, Dad, Dad, please stop fighting. - Awsm Chimera
I won a Gameboy from a school drawing contest that raises drug awareness. I drew a random scene, and thinking back on it, i assume they randomly picked a few drawerings. My drawering wasn't great, i drew violence to people who were on drugs or alcohol. Like a guy was about to crash his car into a building. A guy with needles in his arm, passed out. It wasn't a feel good piece of art, but i won though. I had Tetris, Snoopy, Dr. Mario, maybe regular Mario--i didn't have a lot o' games, except when my cousin gave me his--but even then, I rarely played it because the battery situation.
The problem seems to be more that woolie is arguing that the game boy was good “for the time” while pat and Matt are arguing that game boy games are outdated by today’s standards, especially considering that u can can just use the phone this thing is for to play better games already.
Metroid 2, -Donkey Kong Country 2- , Super Marioland 2, Link's Awakening, Pokémon, Tennis (you'd be surprised), Megalit, and these were just the ones I had as a kid. They certainly kept me occupied on my GameBoy Pocket before the Color era. I later in life got Warioland, Kirby's Dreamland, Castlevania: The Adventure, Double Dragon 1/2, and Battle Arena Toshinden to see what was up with those. I saw that there was Tetris (it has never been my cup of tea), a Gradius game, a Contra game, several Mega Mans, Final Fantasy Adventure (which was actually Sword of Mana, which Secret of Mana is actually a sequel to)... it seems like a rather decent library, considering the target audience of the time. Edit: It was Donkey Kong LAND 2. Still Diddy and Dixie, but different levels from the SNES game. Either way, when the Game Boy system and games were more affordable, some of us "plebians" ultimately didn't get to have an NES or SNES to compare with, so viva nostalgia and fuck the haters.
This is like when Nintendo fans say the PS2 was all shovelware. Both had trash in crazy supply but we've been spoiled by modern game design and options given by better hardware. Anything still considered good has survived 30 years of scrutiny and are deservedly legendary. Plenty of the ones "bad" now were good to great at the time. Emulators render this all moot anyway
Who says that? I will physically fight them lol. There was WAY too much good shit on PS2 for them to dismiss the library as shovelware. Granted, its not entirely fair because that console lived a LONG time but still.
@@EbonMaster Playstation 2 definitely has a much more varied library with staying power than XBox and Gamecube combined, but you still can't deny that for every Kingdom Hearts and Metal Gear Solid 3 there were about fifty shitty liscensed movie games and Phoenix-tier shit. Everyone and their mother developed games for PS2, and that brought both good and bad.
@@ExaltedUriel im not saying that there wasnt a lot of shovelware. Thats going to be the case for any popular console. What im saying is the fact that you can find hundreds of good or great games on that console including several that are arguably the greatest of all time, it seems silly to dismiss the library as "all shovelware"
Donkey Kong 94: A much overlooked remake of the classic Donkey Kong arcade game which expands the scope of the original game beautifully. Final Fantasy Adventure: Actually Seiken Densetsu 1, which had a little known sequel localised as Secret of Mana. An excellent Zelda clone. The Final Fantasy Legend trilogy: Actually Romancing Saga games. These were well made JRPGs that you could take on the go, which was nuts at the time. There are more of course. You just need to dig. It's like saying the Wii had no good games because it had a billion bad ones. EDIT: Castlevania II Belmont's Revenge as well.
THANK YOU. Lol I feel like Matt and Pat were missing the point Woolie was making which is "the Gameboy had some good games on it." Just because better Gameboys came later doesn't mean that the original Gameboy didn't have some nice titles. I'm on Woolie's side with this one. 😂
I mean if it does than thats fine and good on Nintendo for doing so, but unless that thing has gbc or gba games it won't be worth the plastic it is made from besides maybe like 5 games.
you should look up his domestic issue with Paige over a ham sandwich. She periscoped the whole thing like 2 or 3 years ago and it's on youtube somewhere.
@@DaeliteJ Yeah, it's weird that people think this is one of the proof of him checking out, because there's plenty of other podcast videos where you can see that. But this isn't one of them. Pat and Woolie are just high energy, Matt just doesn't wanna get into a screaming match, especially when Pat is already doing it for his side of the argument.
This reminds me of people attacking me for my love of the Kingdom Hearts series. Person: 'The Kingdom Hearts games are bad!' Me: "Some of them are, yeah..." Person: "The story is confusing!" Me: "Yep, that's for sure..." Person: "It has too many side games with plot relevance!" Me: "Indeed it does..." Person: "HOW CAN YOU DEFEND THESE GAMES!?" Me: "Solid to Amazing fun as hell gameplay with loveable characters that I genuinely care about and some of the best music I've heard in a video game ever. Oh yeah, and it makes me happy and I have fond memories of playing them and have made lots of friends because of these games." Person: ".... But... But the flaws!" Me: "Yep, they're there..." Person: "No, you can't acknowledge the flaws and still love it, you're not allowed. It's so stupid and dumb and for babies!" "Me: "CAN'T F*CKIN' STOP ME B*TCH! WHEN YOU WALK AWAY-"
I think it's more along the lines of: Guy1 : The Kingdom Harts games are bad Guy2 : But they have like 5 levels that are really good Guy1 : Really? That doesn't seem worthwhile Guy2 :But they are *really* good tho
More like, Kingdom Hearts is good because I played it in my edgy teen years and 'fuck you for saying the story is bad.' That is basically the entire argument Woolie boils down to, his Nostalgia kicks in so hard that he vehemently defends a hand-held that by all means was only superior because the graphics and batteries worked in tandem to actually have games that don't eat your batteries. Combine that with Childhood precious memories and it's basically cry-baby memories.
when you walk away you don't hear me say "Please shut up, person" Simple and Clean Is that way that you're making your arguements It's easy to beat those
Gamecube is the greatest console of all. Most comfortable controller, most portable console. Literally the only problem with it is the length of the controller cord.
I agree with Woolie. If it wasn't for the Gameboy library, we wouldn't have the GBC which had mostly sequels of the GB. Not to mention they count as the same system. It's like Xbone and the One X.
