From Full To Absolute Dead! Ford F-150 Lightning 70-MPH Highway Range Test (Extended Range Platinum) 

Mine is too

Marketing slogan potential?

Yeah most people don’t need as much range as they think they do lol

Your life ain't boring till you become a trucker. All work and sleep. And very little sleep at that

lol

Tweakers are so comfortable they move in the gas station

you shouldn't run the battery that low anyway - take a break at about 200 miles, charge to 80% (that's where EV's charge the fastest) and you'll be off after your pitstop - the rare time you travel more than 200 miles in a day

Gonna need more Bucky’s

Recommended use is to live between 80 and 20%. Start your trip at 100%, get no lower than 10%, recharge to 80%, continue. 20-80% is like 15-20 mins.

With EV it is offset by not having to stop and fill up with gas one every week or every two weeks since you wake up every morning with 300 miles range. And you are right, it will only get better. That's what investment in technology will do but first there must be people who will first adopt it.

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Good man!!!

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@@thisisntsergio1352 lmao, the car didn't even manage to drive for 20 minutes. 🤣😂. Yeah bro, EVs are the future 😂😂🤣

Kyle can easily test this with his Revel

@@brandenflasch iob U

Can you flat tow the truck behind an rv?

@@chriskriaris4304 unlikely

I am curious how much weight it will pull for how far or long on 1 charge which manufacture is mum about

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Were you running the a/c ?

Long haul for EVs will remain elusive for years, sadly. Hybrids becoming universal would have been the wiser investment for the industry, though EVs have a HUGE simplicity advantage compared to hybrids, hybrids can get away with simpler, under-powered, engines if designed well - such as the Chevy Volt's cheap 100HP gas engine, the two electric motors drive the car and provide plenty of power and 300lbft of torque... no transmission and an 18kWh battery pack... a shame GM didn't bring that forward to more vehicles, would have been a wise move for trucks and SUVs.

Stick with burning dinosaurs bro. For now.

@@looncraz umm, GM made hybrid half-ton trucks and SUVs back in 2009. Barely anyone bought them. Sorry but the market didn't accept that theory.

@@ashton9699 It takes time for people to come around to new tech, 2009 was eons ago... there's still a LOT of resistance to EVs. We could give every vehicle a 20kWh battery pack, 40~60 miles of EV range, and a small gas engine as a range extended far faster than we could make every vehicle an EV.

@@looncraz yeah, driven like a gas truck, with lights on for safety, your looking at 200 miles of range, new. Hook up a boat or RV, add passengers, and you may only go 120 miles...new. As the truck battery ages the renge will drop lower and lower anf lower. A 5 ft bed with such a short range makes this truck worthless for anyone who attempts to use this truck to haul anything but air. Ford lost over $3 Billion last year on it's EV program,. this 80K truck just doesn't do it's job. How much does this cost? oh yeah, $30 for 50 kw, so the recharge will cost $80 to drive 250 miles. My F150 at 80 mpg avgs 360 milles using 17-18 gallons of reg gas. At $3.50 gallon thats about $65 to go 100 miles further. My truck is almost 20 years old with a Triton 5.4L engine, a modern 5.0 Cayote engine will get at least 5 mpg more. That's all, I'm done, unless someone wants to sell me their 2 or 3 year old F-150 5.0 cheap.

Lots of EV full size range rovers incoming in a two years. People will be buying luxury EVs with biggest batteries and the battery prices will be rising and cars below 60k euro will have long wait times and because there won’t be batteries for cheaper cars

Yes but we with our 50kw/h bevs will be able to stop off at a high power ccs charger for 20mins and be off again. Ultimately going further quicker than the Lightning as its so slow to recharge a mammoth battery.

yea this is where hybrid would be ideal for me. im not willing to let that backup go just yet.

What is the package you are trying to get to get $80k? The F-150 can get as low as $43k with a tow package before incentives (-7500 federal) and tax. That is standard range battery.

@@ronaldking1054 very few dealerships are going to give you a vehicle even if ordered at MSRP. Have ya seen the markup on vehicles right now? Its a joke

@@NIVO1972 You just stated that a dealership is going to mark up a truck to twice its MSRP. Question is still valid.

@@ronaldking1054 OK final time. I never mentioned what package did I? Im not wrong that a certain trim level with extended battery starts at 77k. Whoever said anything about a base model? Thats point you tried to use, not me. Its not a buyers market right now and dealerships everywhere are tacking on 3-6k. ask around or go look for yourself. im not arguing any more about this damned ford. I simply dont care. But i was not wrong that its 80k. You assumed base model. No one said it.

honestly considering the range hit for towing, i see no reason to spend the massive premium for the extended range model. For now I would only get the EV truck if I just wanted a truck vs a car for interior space and to put something into the bed occasionally. Otherwise id stick to ICE if towing at all.

@@I_Love_Quokkas This Platinum did 4 hours at 70mph in 100 degree weather. Going slower, taking the XLT model or not running AC would extend that range. Towing is supposed to half that distance, so I could see towing a boat or small trailer as not being a big deal if you're not going less than 2 hours away. We've started talking about selling our ICE van and getting an EV, and this is one of the options I'm pitching. The issue I have is that all the EVs are in such demand right now and so many new models, that used EVs aren't coming down in value, they aren't a ton of used on the market, and new ones are hard to get ahold and often quite a bit above MSRP.

Lets be real. There is only one practical EV on the market and it is a sedan, the Lucid Air. 520 range and fast charging. That should be the benchmark. Sometimes I have to hotshot stuff. Can you imagine going from Atlanta to Houston in an EV?!? Days! I can send an F350 with a couple of guys and have it the next day.

Baloney E..V.s arent selling well

Just an overrated piece of junk

not helping sell the truck as older guys around me all ready picture having to push it in to the fill station all the time ( bad range anxiety and or don't trust BEV's but i wouldn't mind trying one to own/drive long term ) like he did in the video even known that was dumb stuff that got the truck stuck on the side of the road just like doing that to a diesel F250 would = the same hell my dad use to run out of gas a lot as a kid in a K1500 80's so i know the feeling 🤠 and mom was made about him doing it lol 😂

Real life demonstration?! Yeah, I'd like to see him towing something, see how far it will get.

Towing would cut the range to half

@@DontBowToEvil um the 2 different trucks my dad had rarely ever towed with and the f150 king 2014 was 3-time's the rest of the time was purty much a luxury barge aka empty/show truck with just him same for the jeep in the family hell so far iv done more towing but the k1500's bed got way more use from him vs me but he was a contractor before i got it so somewhat realistic but yes towing numbers would be nice to know more so RV's/car-haulers as my family at this point is considering towing a rental one for a road trip ect.

re: "I wonder if anyone saw you pushing it into the charge bay and thought " oh look the battery ran out, yeah I'm not getting one of those EVs". A: yes. unfortunately everyone in the vicinity of that intersection.

That, or they just saw it was a Ford and didn’t think twice about seeing someone pushing it

The misperception someone could get by seeing that actually scares me.

@@N7_Maric Or the misconception that these all electric vehicles are really better for the environment. Especially considering long term use. Personally I would be all on board for a plug in hybrid.

Agreed. Pushing an EV to a charger does Zero to help the EV movement.

And maybe bring a ProPower hybrid to rescue them when they die 😅

I’ve got a headache. I don’t think he took his a.d.d meds this morning 🤦🏼

You admit criminality? Do you pass in the slow lane too?

I guess this is all right about you gasoline trucks…as long as you have the $$$$ (that will surely increase) to spend feeding that truck.

@@Geezerelli Yes, I will smoothly and slowly pass on the right if people are intentionally and illegally obstructing the left lane.

@@cujet but if the vehicle is going the speed limit how can they safely move over to the right lane if cars are flying by in the slow lane at 80?

The gas might be worth more than the car.

Beautiful car

Anthonys are all over it.

Or the hot summer when you have to run the AC

I was thinking more like -25, and I don't even care if it's with towing capacity. I just want to know if it's even viable! But then I suspect that many of us live in areas where the charging capacity does not even exist.

@@rba5567 this was done on a 100 degree day. Don't comment if you don't even know what's going on please.

@@yvonnewensloff6983 I'm becoming a semi-expert on EVs since my son's fiance just bought herself one. The infrastructure isn't there to go state to state and your battery capacity is severely limited in cold weather. Turn on the heat draws more current, now that its summer same applies for ac. A $50,000 vehicle that you can't run the heater, can't run the air conditioner and can't travel state to state is not worth it in my opinion. If you're going to limit it to just in City driving it's great and the pickup and torque is incredible and you can run the AC or heater but it really drains the battery. Surprisingly eVs have a lead acid battery in them. Was wondering why until someone pointed out that most electronics need that 12 volt system and so it's separate from the lithium ion batteries that make up the majority of the car. Just telling you what was told to me by an actual owner. I also was able to drive and be a passenger in it as well.

He’s right. Batteries really don’t do well in cold weather. Try minus 30 and you’ll see the results. I live off grid and batteries perform very poorly in the cold and use far more energy than running AC in a hot climate. Cold is the enemy of batteries, solar and wind because there’s usually no wind at minus 30.

TFL did a test with a 8600 lb trailer on the Ike, 50 mile range.

I don't even think they need to be towing something. I want to see it in four wheel low traveling over a steep very rough road in winter. I can't even imagine trying to chain this ev up on all four and getting into a pasture covered with two feet of snow to feed the cattle. If all you do is drive 70 miles an hour on the highway you don't need a truck.

This isn't for the extreme towers. It's for the MILLIONS of Americans who have a light travel trailer or fishing boat, said less than 5klbs, who tow to a local camping/fishing site within 4 hours travel, and spend most of the time hauling air in the bed. Millions of people. If we can't get them into more reasonable vehicles, then I'm fine with this truck, which will greatly reduce CO2 emissions, pollution, and noise over a gas F150

That’s not representative of the average truck owners needs. Someone did a survey, something like 75% of the owners tow heavy things 0-1 times per year, and 70% never go off road

Emergency flashers, like all other accessories, work off a normal 12 volt battery under the hood.

The Colorado guys got 2 mi /kWhr at 75 mph.

I’m in northern Illinois and I want to pull my 4 place snowmobile trailer to northern Wisconsin for some fun and it’s 5 degrees out and snowing, am I going to even make it to the Wisconsin border?

In EV's without a heatpump, you will typically lose 40% of your range in the winter. With a heatpump it may be closer to 20%. However ICE vehicles also lose 20-30% range in winter too.

@Kevin Smith ooookayyy. Cold weather saps EV batteries. The added weight of towing will sap an EV battery. Combine those two factors and I cannot wait to see the range of towing in the snow. Can your gray matter handle all of that?

I really want to see a winter range test while towing. I hope anyone that bought this as a work truck understands this limitation.

@@lanceareadbhar they are toys for dweebs- spend your money on a gas or diesel truck

@@bikeman1x11 I would rather buy a hybrid than another gas truck.

screw being "optimal" this is real life where your little EV's tend to suck

@William Arrington uh

Energy.gov statistics show that in 2017 95% of all vehicle trips were less than 30 miles. Ford's fleet stats say most vehicles travel around 75 miles a day. They aren't for everyone yet but they cover a great many drivers. Especially those who can charge at home.

Trucks are not aerodynamic, getting only about 2 miles per kw. Typically cars get 3, Mercedes has one in development that will get 6. So actually the range is impressive and useful for what people do 99% of the time. And you can always hit a fast charger and go farther.

Good point!

Don't come on here with actual facts. :)

44% extra power...if you drive the same length of time. However, you are going to go 20% further in the same time, so by distance (which is normally what we care about, unlike a pilot trying to build hours) you would use 20% more power to go the same distance.

Twice the speed requires eight times the power so 20% more speed requires over 70% more power.

@@lfsracer79 yes of course (I usually work with drag force rather than power eq's my apologies) . 44% is the increase in drag, but power is by the cube (72.8% more power) .. Again, since you are going 20% farther at the same time, the actual increase in energy to go the same distance is 44% as we don't really care about energy over time, but rather over distance.

magna makes a fun of components for ford like electric motors and battery housing etc

@@EdArmy yeah, I know.

Thought the same thing.

160 what

We just purchased our first EV three weeks ago. We purchased a 2023 Toyota BZ4X Limited AWD. Fully charged and AC/Heater off, the car says it can go 300-miles. However, as soon as we turn on the AC the range drops from 300-miles to 220-miles. We live in the central valley of California, where it gets very hot. So we always have the AC on all the time. So the lesson here is, this is how all EV's are. The AC/heater eats lots of power. We sold my wife 2021 Lexus 460 SUV with a V-8. That truck only got about 12mpg. We have already put 2,000 miles on the new car and have only payed $19.80 in charging fees, + what we have paid for home charging. This is because Toyota has given us one year of free charging with EV-Go. We love the car. And it literally make me happy to drive it knowing that I'm only paying 10% of what we would be spending on that Lexus. I also have a 2018 F-150 Diesel. Before we prefered to make all of our trips in the F-150 vs. the Lexus. Now we both like to take the car because of the amazing cruise control/ self driving software in the car and paying so little for fuel. Anyway, I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any more questions.

@@AirborneSapper82 Thank you for the reply, I actually grew up in the Central Valley of California, it gets very hot there. My plan is to get an EV pickup within the next 2-3 years. I’ll spend that time researching and finding the one that works for me, I’m really interested in the Ram that will be coming out eventually. I own a Ram eco diesel now, and love it.

Ford EPA rating is mixed used. You get less range on the highway, more range in the city due to a number of factors. The particular model he is driving is actually only rated to only 302 miles (mixed use). The platinum version he is driving has the biggest tires at 22 inches. 20 inch tires on the Lariat and XLT and 18 inch tires on the Pro extended range get you the 320 miles. It was pretty much bang on to the EPA rating for highway for this model.

The range rating is likely during a typical use case which would include around town driving where EV's don't have to contend with so much drag.

It said it was a 'parking' fee.... 🤔

@@jareddavis105 yeah I was seeing that but I'm trying to figure out if all other chargers do this or if it's just charging $$ for the extended length of time to charge to 100%?

@@trullmann I am wondering the same thing….it seems like if it is still charging then there shouldn’t be a parking fee. Now if it was done charging after a certain point I could see a parking fee

@@jareddavis105 my thoughts exactly, otherwise this adds a whole new operational expense to these that I've never heard of?

Don't worry, like cellphones, they can add a whole new slew of taxes and charges onto just the base electric charge. Electric grid infrastructure charge, carbon tax for the fossil fuel emissions needed to generate the electricity, battery excise tax since the battery pack will needed to be recycled safely in the future, rare earth depletion tax since you used all those rare earths from Australia, environmental hazard tax for all those toxic tailings generated extracting lithium etc. etc.!!

And you're not going to get that same range because are you really going to drive it until the battery dies? No. Plus he kept the speed at 70. That's the slow lane speed in some areas. Going up to 80 or 85 like we drive down South means you'll create much more drag and use up that battery even faster. The technology is in its infancy and still needs improvement. I'd also like to see the batteries be built with other minerals that don't require us to strip mine the planet while creating even more carbon emissions just to build the car.

As much as I love all electric vehicles I will say for anyone who can only pick one car or is looking for the vehicle of the household for long trips, plug in hybrids are the far better choice, because while you are near the house, able to charge daily, you get ~25 miles per charge, but then when that runs out it becomes a high mpg hybrid, giving you the best of both worlds in a sense

And you pull into a charging station with 20 people in front of you!

@@carlosf.7158 ....in some states the speed limit is 80, so if you're traveling @70 you're going to be impeding traffic and possibly become a hazard.

@@carlosf.7158 you do realize electric cars have been around since the 1800 same with batteries. I don’t believe it’s going to improve like they want. I don’t understand why they don’t go with hydrogen. Engines in old cars can be fitted, new cars have amazing range. The big thing is China doesn’t get rich selling batteries. Make no mistake this isn’t about technology it’s about control.

Exactly.....

I don’t have this exact truck but I’ve got an electric SUV and the numbers are around the same for most electric cars. It costs me somewhere around 20$ to public charge it, and it can get to 80% in under 25 min. Some newer ones can get to 80 in 14 min. Charging at home, which is where 80% of charging happens, costs somewhere around 13$ to go from empty to full and can be done overnight while you sleep

Perfect highway conditions for an EV is at 60mph and around 70 deg f. Probably losing around 10-15% because of the hot weather and real highway speed

In a couple few years it will be half of that

The highway EPA rating is 267 miles for the platinum large battery. For the standard battery pack the EPA highway rating is 201 miles so I'm thinking the real max range should be around 195 miles.

Thanks for asking that. I was equally unimpressed and confused

@@bfields1448 it will be about 5-10% of degradation after 2 years and maybe another 5% after 5-10 years. These don't have the same trash battery architecture of the Nissan Leafs

Especially with 100 degree weather, when the Rivian test was done around 60 degrees requiring lots less power for climate control. Technically 72 is optimal, with most Ev's driving 15% further on average than EPA ratings, according to what I could find.

Awesome test, this was shameful for ford. 250 Miles. That's 20 miles extra for 20 thousand. So your paying a grand each for the extra 20 miles on that extended range battery. What a bust

@@jeffreyheinzelman3133 I think you totally missed something. Like Facts.

If you tow everyday for work, chances are you're driving more than 135 miles per day. Contractors, lawn crews, etc...

Daily use cases don't sell vehicles. Even if you only tow a 500 mile trip once a year, you need a truck capable of doing it...

In real life you’d never get that low lol

Does it matter? Idiot Biden is "transitioning" us to EVs by killing oil production. The Moron in Chief is also killing coal an nuclear electricity production so electricity will be three times higher by the time he dies in office or Trump wins in 2024.

The price for recharge is a secret..

It will vary. The fast chargers in my area, 150kw+, are around 48¢/kwh.

And what will five or so years deduct from the range?

@@lummoxx8586 More than you know. Heat absolutely kills batteries (as does cold).......

Cold doesn't really hurt batteries. When you start driving the battery warms and the missing range "reappears"

We shall soon see. I remember 100F on a trip, it cost me about 2mpg on my gas car. 25 instead of 27. Probably hits harder in comparison

@@wolfkin73 cold is not what’s reducing the range. It’s the use of seat and cabin heat that’s sucking the range out of the battery. AC does it in the summer.

I think EVs are intended for people with Garages/Driveways who charge at home every night. My wife is planning to get an EV next and I'll keep my hybrid for the road trips!

EVs the good ones with high range are not affordable for the regular people, the idea of spending 30 minutes or longer at a charging station is ridiculous to me. Again,people with means will charge at home with their exoress chargers,the other people will have to charge overnight

@@aboutface102 You don't have to charge every night though

I think if you fast charge from 10% to 90% it takes a lot less time?

@@bradkark Surely it does. Nobody can realistically sit around for that long.

Ya more like 75

The XLT doesn't have blue cruise or phone as a key. And the extended range xlt is $20k more than the standard range XLT, you might as well go to the lariat if you are spending that sort of money.

@@bullbutter2931 yes, more than any f150 ever.... rookie numbers 🙄

Realistically itll only prob add 30 mins to ya route if you used an ev n charged it to 80%

N save hundreds of dollars with the time lost

Electricty is not clean as it seems.The grid is not ready for alot of ev's

@@sticks0012 it's not perfect but in most of the country it's cleaner than gas. You'd have to be deep in coal country to get the dirtiest electricity.

I think your math is off a little bit, charge stations aren’t usually just off the highways and charge time is way slower.

Subtract 20% from that 260 miles Kyle got.

@@letsgobrandon5800 you won't see 20% degradation in 3 years. It has a 70% capacity warranty for 8 year / 100k miles like every other EV. Expect 1-2% loss every 12-15K miles per most Lion packs. @E Nyelator you won't see much difference at 3 years. 10 years though would make a difference.

@@jaoliver999 I've owned three of them (BEVs) . First year is the worst, 3-7% and then slower after that. It'll be in the teens after three years. Guaranteed. Also, its not so much mileage based as it is cycle based. Charge cycles, however that is defined, is the worst on any battery. Obviously the two are related as you cant put on miles without charging , but cycles is the thing to watch. DC fast charging is also tough on a battery. The heat alone is deleterious.

@@jaoliver999 wrong depends how you drive if you drive alot and hard battery will go down , it all depends on cycles its like our phones , 3 years it will degrade a bit from 100

Batteries suck. Thats all you gotta know

110 takes like 24 hours I've heard

In the beginning, he charged it for 2.5hrs at $30ish buutttt 2.5hrs of charging time???????

how were they able to push it if it couldn't be shifted out of park? Not sure how that works.

well honestly with a vehicle like this, if you have to ask.. .. that is not why people buy these things atm actually.

Same in the UK, although pickup trucks are generally used by builders, they spend most of the day parked up at the work site. SUV's are used to take kids to school and ballet lessons.

So know one uses a truck as it's intended purpose ??? 😏

@@Sanctified_EDC_Gear my answer: no. There are pickups at every intersection where I live, every stretch of road, every parking lot. Few, if any, have more than one person in them or anything in the bed.

The vast majority of truck owners never haul anything, and buy the truck only for the macho "truck-like image. Then, when gas prices go up, and their 21 mpg truck costs some gargantuan amount to fill up, they blame the government. The problem is not the government, but the individual buying a vehicle that is far more expensive to purchase and operate than what they actually need. (Yes, there do exist some truck owners that actually haul things for work and need to drive 300 miles towing a trailer, without stopping, to earn a living. But, there are far more truck owners that don't. The shear number of pickup trucks you need on the highway is proof enough of this).