I Ran The Tesla Cybertruck To Dead In Our 70-MPH Highway Range Test! 

Agreed - I should be more careful for the livestreams I guess

I agree. I was reading about this before I could watch it. Good job Kyle

@@KyleConner The exposure is good your core audience will watch the video and those that are less informed with learn you exist from these outside outlets

Yep, New York Post did that article before this video went up. You're too popular Kyle!

Well journalism these days have resorted to viewing livestreams to produce clickbait articles with twisted narratives, instead of acquiring special access, doing extensive testing and writing 3rd party reviewed content that is curated and exclusive. Gone are the days of professional journalism.

Only a 5 mile difference anyways. 249 instead of 254.

@@GraysonCarr Nevertheless, Scott is right. But good to know there are 5 extra miles to move.

I appreciate the 70mh loop tests. For me most of my long range driving is on a highway so it's always good to have some re-assurance it doesn't have a better milage at 35mph. since those trips are usually pretty short for me.

I understand what you’re saying Scott but keep in mind this is 70mph constantly, this isn’t realistic, in a real life situation you have regenerative braking to recharge your battery cause driving around the city constantly driving and stopping recharging your battery you might actually be able to get more mileage

@@amardnoo But then you can doubt any scenario. Let's see it like this: Constant 70 mph is "very demanding" ... and aerodynamics and rolling resistance are stressed to the max. They play a big part in efficiancy. The "real life situation" makes unefficiant electric cars a little less negative.

Thank's.

Except in most places around the world running at a constant 70mph requires a middle of the night run.

@@PJWey Yes most non-US places. Well except for maybe Japan. I average about 70 there as well. Nobody really cares about around town mileage as they don't drive 300 miles in circles or back roads very often. Range really only matters on the highway.

It's the only range number that matters. Around town EVs now easily have enough range that it doesn't matter. Road trips is the only issue with EVs

Why? That's not how ice vehicles are. That's not how any vehicles are measured. It should be combined city/highway if there is to be one data point for range, ya dingus. Ideally, they'd give us lots of data tho, ie 400 city, 250 hwy, 310 combined, 150 hwy max towing etc etc

@@dyeace I don't care how they do it but it has to reflect REAL WORLD driving and highway speeds kill EV range much worse than ICE. Obviously Tesla's range figures have been _Pulitzer Prize_ material all along.

Looks like EVs are trash to me

And how do you know this have you tested it.,!?

CT won against F150. 2.5Wh/m-46F against 2.2Wh/m-73F. At 73F it would have been 2.8Wh/m or even more. And pls keep comparisons alike, do not talk about altitude change right now.

@I_Drank_What Cybertruck 122.4 kWh, F150-L 131kWh.

Equal to or better than the CyberFlop. FYI: Rust Never Sleeps!

@I_Drank_What F150-L has less than 9 more KWH of storage capacity and beats the CyberFlop in range.

That's why the company that built it went bankrupt. It is a great road though.

That's a good point, but it's hard to test and not a real-world scenario. They will need another truck with v2l to help charge it once the car dies in the highway, which doesn't sound too safe. In the real world, you still need enough charge to make it to a charger 🤷‍♂️

Im in the market for a lightning and this video convinced me to wait for the Cybertruck. The Ford F-150 Lightning is one of the more inefficient BEVs out there. I see why the Cybertruck looks the way it does.

Tesla's in the process of changing their 4680 chemistry from NMC 811 to NMC 955, according to Dillon Loomis at Electrified. That should give a range increase of 10-20%. Apparently the 4680's still a work in progress.

@@skellington2000 BUT, the Cybertruck is shaped like a bolt of lightening....I'm disappointed with the Cybertruck from the initial release numbers all the way around.

Plus the Cybertruck's all terrain tires used in this test.

If he towed it in normal driving mode he could have regenerated.

@douggolde7582 He's done that before. I guess aside from myself the manufacturer informed him that wss a very bad idea.

That’s what Neutral “gear” for. I believe it has that option. But he was so excited that he probably forgot about it😃

He's towing with little to no resistance. It's not like the truck is being yanked out of a mud pit. Calm down.

@@silverstake88 38:00 the CT put itself into park while moving. That’s full resistance. Worse than a mud pit. You never know…. 😅

Thanks, came here to comment that👍

For a car guy you’d think that he would have known that.

Yep, so much filler at the beginning of all the oos videos.

​@@mev202the filler is the nerdy stuff that makes these videos better than a straight up test. I want details, not fluff.

Did you see how they towed by looping the strap around the ball hitch? And then the 7,000lbs truck put itself in park. They are lucky no one died.

@@0mydramatic much?

@@mannyman4103 just watch the videos on the topic and you will be too

I’d like Out of Specs to do a “Race to Vegas” style video like they have in the past. But this time with the Cybertruck, Rivian, F150 lightning, Hummer, any other electric truck

would also need all road tires vs mud tires on the cybertruck but that’s not coming until later 2024. But that would be more of a fair comparison.

I got 10,600 on mine and averaging 2.1 mi/kWh but I'm also in northern Wisconsin so expect that to quickly decrease over the winter. Between all the available electric trucks seems like efficiency is fairly similar so have to pick you favorite aesthetic. We need better energy density. For those who need to tow long distance.... electric probably needs a couple more decades of progress to make sense.

15k on mine in Massachusetts. Average total is 2 miles per kWh. Not bad

@@Jim-jt9tbI’m in Oklahoma so it’s a tad warmer. Last summer I was up around 2.3-2.4

@Jim-jt9tb ... It is 1-1/2 miles per KW. NOT KWH. Time is not part of this equation. KW and KWH are two different things.

@@The_DuMont_Network It is kWh when talking about energy consumption per mile. Power (kW)*Time (Hours)=Energy (kWh) or E=∫Pdt which is the area under the power curve

I doubt there will be a 500mi real-world range Cybertruck anytime soon.

They are supposed to make a battery extension that sits in the bed of the truck, but I think it’s a maximum of 40kwh, giving maybe an extra 70 miles of range. Until someone comes out with a mod for these packs, or a third party makes a connection that allows owners to make their own battery extension, there’s no way CT is getting over 500 miles to a charge. Don’t even get it me started about charging both packs efficiently.

Towing is like 90 miles 9f range with the standard battery

What do you tow?

I have a small camper, about 4k LB empty weight (and probably 5k with a typical load). Our typical trip is 150 to 300 miles (each way), 3-4 times per year. Sometimes we have power at our destination (an RV park), and sometimes we don't. So it could make the CT work. But a lot higher cost (compared with initial $50k) and somewhat lower range make this a lot less desirable combination for me. @@ed1pk

Just wait a few years the range will for sure increase, as the 4680 will get an energy density boost with every next iteration.

Crazy that anyone ever thought this thing or a f-150 lightning would ever replace an actual truck.

Nice of you to give Elon an interest free loan - he really needed that money to buy twitter

Gouging

Buy and ice car problem solved - my Camry goes 600 miles and 3 minutes to fill

@@matthewm7867and its not as ugly as the teslas

@@KnnnknchtI think the Teslas look better than the Camry

And for reference F-150 lightning did 254mi at 0mi indicated. Running any of these under 0mi indicated is just not something anyone would do when road tripping at 70mph.

And the 290 miles on R1T was with the quad motor. This dual motor cybertruck should be compared to a dual motor R1T for apples to apples.

i have driven 300 miles on 1 charge in my r1t with 21’s

​@@ozo1010 Much smaller truck.

Nah, he drove much further, that's the point of the buffer.

Going down 5 mph should get you about 3/4 the way to the EPA highway rating.

~8-9% more range if you drop speed by 5mph from 70-65. Thats pretty much the rule for all vehicles.

Or a Gelsons

They do. But the premise here is that range is only important at highway speeds. Efficiency is important for daily use.

EPA requires City, Highway, and Combined.. but yes... everything marque is the combined.... take 2023 Tesla Model Y AWD, Marquee combined is 123 mpge, Hwy is 116 and city is 129 ... and again that is mostly because tesla chooses the most optisimic numbers it can.. (123 mpge is about 280 wh/mile, 3.6 mi/KWh). My EV has EPA ratings of 103 MPGe combined (330wh/mi, 3.1 kWh/mi) , 110 city (3.2 kWh/mi), 96 highway (2.8 kWh). And real world? ... my bumper-to-bumper stop-and-go 27 mile commute is regularly right at 5 mi/kWh (168 MPGe) and the same commute in the evening with more free flowing traffic is 3.3 kWh/mi (111 MPGe), and most of my 2000 mile trips have come out just under 3.0 mi/kWh .... so yeah... pretty bang on ... but yeah... the only thing I hate about EPA (fueleconomy.gov) is the use of MPGe and kWh/100 mi. I even hate teslas wh/mi. It should be miles per kwh... it makes the math much more simple. Just like Miles per Gallon, you buy fuel in gallons, miles per kwh, you buy fuel in kwh. Usable battery pack (kwh) times mi/kwh gives you estimated miles, and largely its simple math... 2,3,4 times. I don't know why tesla went with wh/mi. There you have to divide your usable battery pack by wh/mi then times by a thousand. Its stupid.

Definitely

With no climate control, yes. But the time it takes to do 250 city miles would get less range than highway due to climate control running all day

@@austina4189 That depends on just how hot/cold it actually is outside and whether or not the car has a heat pump.

My thoughts exactly. Youngsters don't have the knowledge of years of experience like you and I. I have seen people wrap it around the axle housing.

Wouldn’t it depend on the hitch ball

@fr5229 It's just generally a bad practice. You might get away with it a dozen or a hundred times. But it's incredibly dangerous when it fails, and its really easy to avoid by attaching the tow line properly. I don't mean to detract from this great video- it's really interesting to see the true range of the CT on the highway-- but I winced when I saw that hookup on the hitch ball as it's been hammered into me for years "never do this". In this case, admittedly it's a fairly low risk as he's not snatching a stuck vehicle, and the CT was rolling (until it went into park), but it's an easily avoidable risk.

Absolutely never do that to recover a vehicle. However what they were doing was the same as towing a 6600lb trailer. If you have ever checked trailer brakes by rolling forward and applying full trailer brake but not truck brake it is the same force. Now when you are recovering a stuck vehicle you can exceede the design limits of a ball and hitch setup. Remember he was actually pushing the CT around while hooking up the strap. If he can push on the ball and break it well then…

Ya I had the same thing on my multiple Ford Taurus 1997,- 2007 lots of cars are like that.

Exactly this ^

Good catch

Our '79 VW did this.

That makes absolutely no sense, as that's not how LED headlamps work. The majority of LED headlamps either activate a separate bank of LEDs that shine further out, or boost a few of them that are on. If they low beams didn't stay on nothing would be lit up up front.

Heavily subsidized by the government

No taxes in Texas.

Not all of the US is like this. In Los Angeles, we're paying nearly $5.00/gallon.

​​@@AkioWasRight Still cheap Equivalent to $7.06 / US gallon in London this week. (And that's the cheapest)

@@rogerstarkey5390 I guess so, but California is looking to be exactly like you. During the summer, Downtown Los Angeles is closer to $7.00/gallon due to special blends of fuel in California. Keep in mind, we drive big, inefficient vehicles in the US. We aren't used to high gas prices. To fill up something like an F150 costs about $180 during the summer. To fill a dually pickup costs about $350. It's one of the reasons so many people are abandoning LA for places like Austin.

I'm at 2.61 in the upper midwest. Gas is abnormally cheap due to low demand in the US.

Basically gen z don’t drive cars or work - they just live in parents basement

@@matthewm7867 agree but no idea how that is related to the CT topic

The Lightning, you don’t need to measure. The pictures tell the whole story

There are interior dimension floating around the web. It’s much smaller than the f150. Closer to rivian/mid size truck

@@ZPdrumer got a link?

It's a joke. Less load capacity, much smaller bed, ridiculously poor efficiency.

The Silverado EV has a similar battery to this one and it's not an overweight brick with huge wheels/tires. So it would be better than the Hummer for comparison.

Hummer is a huge ass joke. But it did what it needed to do, get the Silverado EV ready. TFLTruck already did tests with it. The GOM at full charge is 475 miles. But at $80k, it still is expensive for the WT trim.

I suggest you have a serious review of your plans - the Cybertruck is not the droid you were looking for. 😀

Closest you will get will be the Silverado ev or gmc sierra ev

Tesla Semi would be a better choice for you then, lol. In all seriousness though, towing vehicles should supplement range with some form of energy generation, be it, diesel, solar (gross), or another form. But until that's a reality, you've really got to think differently and use the charger network to feel out where you can reach.

Tesla Semi is likely the only option and I don't think they will sell them to individuals. I wanted to pull my RV with my reserved cyber truck too but its clear that wont be an option for several years. If the hummer is an indication of the battery and motor efficiency the Ultium platform has to offer. GM wouldn't even have towing ability with a properly sized for towing 225 + kwh battery.

​@@bambamfpv1102 It might work depending on where you go in the network, but even then you're paying a premium for supercharger charging, and a massive amount of batteries to store energy to pull a huge mass and air drag around long distances (i would assume). IMO, that amount of batteries (200+kwh) should not be amassed for a single vehicle. Something in the order of 80-160kWh should be designed for alongside an efficient heat engine (generator or prime mover) with waste heat recovery should supplement the extra energy needed for towing. Better yet, if towing vehicles were designed more like planes, long distance travel wouldn't require the insane amounts of energy they currently do.

I wonder if Tesla is forbidding towing tests with the Cybertruck? I am surprised that you haven't seen any real tests as that is what everyone is asking for but nobody does.

​@@chiplangowski3298It is because no real truck users have the truck. Only urbanite Tesla fans.

@@chiplangowski3298 Exactly, also have so many questions about this range extender. Does it have same cooling system, will they be able to charge at same rate and efficiently. I wish they made battery sizes configurable, at least increase battery size tri motor cyberbeast. Why have hype video towing against competition if it cant hold up in reality. Elon should have hyped this as a glorified short range grocery commuter. Don’t get my hopes up as actual usable work truck that can tow my RV.

Maybe wait until the RAM charger comes out in 2025 if you want a EV truck. They claim it will get 690 total miles

@@virtualZ161 Dodge/Stellantis talks a lot of sht.

I'm not worried---every new battery configuration Tesla had in the past started with a horrible charging curve. It takes them about half a year to carefully tweak it to its final value.

@@HenryLoenwind Why should they need to calibrate the battery that they've made themselves for years, for a truck that they've been "testing" at least over a year?

Better cells coming soon. They launched because the rest of the truck was ready and the FUDmuppets were unbearable.

I thought the range extender battery option should go into that rear trunk, but I suspect that would do bad things to weight and balance so they put it near the existing CG.

Great idea

When you're towing you should never exceed 55mph. In the EU that's generally the max speed for trucks with a load regardless of the posted speed limit. Regardless of the law, it's just not safe to be going that fast when towing.

The entire state of Connecticut does 55 on I-95. It’s infuriating

@@tsh4kYes because the EU is a stupid nanny state

@@kalasmournrex1470 I always avoided that when traveling the east coast from South Florida to Nashua, NH.

They could have done a lot of things to make this usable and cool, as a starter they should have taken the crayons away from the 5 year old who designed this vehicle. They could have also made it more efficient, made it charge better, achieve more range and offered it at a better price. The thing is, they didn't. They probably weren't even capable to produce anything better. The Cybertruck is trash.

That's not how led headlamps work.

Maybe not. But i have a 21 Silverado rst led headlights and they aren't great either. Was just a thought ​@sprockkets

Buy ice vehicle it won’t disappoint

Yup. This is a lot less than what it was promised in 2019.

It will be interesting to see if they are able to improve the energy density of their batteries, or fit a bigger pack in the existing truck. Hopefully they do this before Toyota’s solid state batteries arrive to take over the market.

@@rameusunlimited1561 This battery technology is already at its limit, the 4680 is the new more powerful battery. It's quite doubtful that they will improve this technology enough to make a difference, unfortunately. Toyota's SS batteries will take another decade to hit the market, in my guesstimates.

@@Adreno23421 they have been constantly tinkering with their batteries, but you are right they probably won’t have a substantial improvement at least near term. The only real answer is a larger battery pack. If Tesla wasn’t so against it having a range extending generator instead of another battery pack would probably make this a much better towing vehicle.

@@rameusunlimited1561 Yup!!

LED headlamps do not operate that way.

No, because Tesla doesn't want you to know the battery size because "reasons."

He did the test to make money. not for you. 🤦‍♂️

@@nsrvtqc I guess you don't have a car because seller/dealership they cannot make money from you.

So what bout in the middle of a snow storm oh wait we already know what happens, pity nobody buying an EV , and nobody getting rid of the gas and diesel engine vehicles, i guess the left will have to go full communism on us , good luck with that

That’s my question. In addition to that, real off road driving needs a spare tire which will take up more space.

If you want gobs of range, buy any hybrid or PHEV, not an EV.

That would be nice. But it will probably complicate things... The real issue is the 4680 performance, IMO. They missed their original targets, so hopefully, they can figure out how to improve the energy density... With limited 4680 production, it doesn't make sense to throw a 200kwh pack like the Hummer.

As it has an interface for the range extender, it should be possible to use 3rd party products instead. Maybe even a diesel range extender. Tesla probably can be persuaded to make it an open standard.

@@andrasbiro3007 I love the idea of standardizing it. Their competition would probably adopt that standard, much like they have with NACS. Especially if the interface supported multiple packs and different capacities.

The design of the extender seems stupid. They should have made the extender fit into the bed storage compartment or they should have designed it to be flat rather than a block so that when it's in place in the bed it only takes up height from the bed rather than length. That way you could for instance still put sheets of plywood in there or skis and gear that is long but not tall. And that way you could add another one making the whole system more modular based on what your range needs. It would also lower the center of gravity to make the truck handle better. So much design genius on this vehicle and then a huge fail in that department.

@@tweedledee4922I assume weight distribution has something to do with where it is placed. I can see where the drop off is someone will make those drawers that go in pickup truck beds for slide out storage and still be able to use the bed to haul flat stuff like plywood.

Incorrect. That depends on the headlight design. Fogs are not allowed with high beam. All LED headlamps either boost some of the lights, or add more.

Such crew might not even find it feasible to use a cybertruck if they are part of a larger operation. The existing docking bays are sized for F-150, and the shape of the trailer bed of this truck wouldn’t work for that. Cybertruck is not meant to replace f-150 for work fleets. It is meant to sell to high end consumer users who want pickup trucks.

@@rambrasil I'm not looking for someone else's opinion which is why I'd like to see an actual real case review. I've got 6 work trucks and never once ever used a "docking bay." Thanks for the reply, but it's not remotely helpful here. I spend over 10k per year on maintenance and repair on average. This truck appears to be designed as the perfect contractor truck. If you want a grocery getter, get the Rivian. I'm looking for a work tool, I'd like to see it in use for that purpose.

​@@rambrasil Since this truck is narrower outside than the F150, with a longer, wider bed and more suspension adjustment to account for loading, shouldn't be a problem? . As for items in the bed, better tie downs if required, plus the ability to take tall items in exactly the same way and great security for any smaller tools under the *locked* cover when the big stuff is being used?

​@@MH-Tesla Have you considered a Slide-out bed tray? That would overcome any mythical "access issues"? . As you say, you want a truck that's "working". Much better to call service, arrange a day and have THEM come to you on YOUR site (IF you need a repair) than having to waste time at the dealer dropping off, explaining the problem, collecting a loaner, swapping tools, etc, getting to your site late, only to get the "after lunch call" telling you it needs a part they don't have, can you come back in 3 days?" OR saying they're closing early, "can you return the loaner by 1600?" (Yes, I've been there!)

@@rogerstarkey5390 Good point about the slide out. I thought of that too. 👍 Or drop the tail gate and leave it down with an after market extender so it's an 8 foot bed. (Not sure if that works with towing a trailer.) As for repairs and maintenance, I've never gone to a dealership. I've got my "truck guy" to fix most stuff and a local repair shop to handle more routine stuff. If I had a dealer do everything it would double my costs. And of course we can do some things in house. If I did get a cyber truck for work, it'd be the rwd version after the prices drop below 50k. So not likely for 2-3 years. But my contention is that cybertruck will be the truck of choice for contractors like me once they get through the order backlog and business men who make decisions based off the utility and costs can start to get them.