From ROTC to F-16 WIC IP | How Deuce Became a Fighter Pilot 

Wicked pissah! There, still got it!

Haha! Before I retired, being a peace-loving guy and all, I figured one year's income tax paid for one Blue Angel's fuel for one air show. Now I think it would cover one Blue Angel's flight suit.

Anything is possible, you just need to put the work in and have a good attitude

I'm with you, we can do it!

Just turned 16 and am lookin down the same path you are😅

Kids these days have it easy! Just kidding.. It used to be 4 weeks (as it was for me) and 6 for people that joined ROTC later

@Harrison Powers at Det157 AS200s have to spend a whole semester preparing for Field Training, I'm not sure if other dets do it but our training is quite hard.

How'd go? Where you at now?

That and Davis-Monthan are must-sees for military aviation buffs. Probably Pensacola Navy Air Museum too... They were just starting to amass aircraft for it when I was there in 1972.

BeyondBelief Good luck man, I’m in the Army National Guard right now, when I get out I want to apply for a pilot slot in the marines.

Good luck! A positive attitude and solid work ethic go a long way in the military and life in general.

I don't think it's too late but you could always look into flying light sport aircraft.

​@@CWLemoine​Hey, Thanks for the idea. My Grandkids would get a kick out of it also. I need to check out your books. Thank you for responding!

The 2011 review is coming soon!

You also drive a Camaro, brah

I know, but I wanna HEMI!!

@@themoverandgonkyshow do what Deuce did and RENT one. That way when it leaves you stranded on the side of the road, it's not your problem anymore. 😂🤣

If you're gonna get a Hemi then Step up to the Scat Pak don't go with the 345 5.7l the Scat Pak are the best bang for the buck but with the Widebodies now the prices on the used markets for the Hellcat have dropped down a bit.

If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!

@@Deuce_Dufresne RIP Rip Torn!!

Helos Helicopters in the Sea Services are Helos!

No reason it can’t be, worked for me!

Wolfskind exe man I was just thinking the same thing it was driving me crazy.

I dont think you'll cut it :) prove me wrong :/

Not for me personally

Now THAT is holding a grudge. CC is what kind of commander? (I'm ex-Navy)

@@KutWrite Squadron commander, an O-5.

I did UPT at Vance, IFF at Sheppard August-October 2007

@@Deuce_Dufresne no shit...outstanding :-) ,I think I was the DO back then. No worries, we kind of had to make it miserable for the students. Great to see where it took you !! Fly safe!

It's very hard to transition from heavies to fighters. Go for fighters if that's what you want. If that doesn't work, be happy with heavies.

C.W. Lemoine exactly

@@CWLemoine Okay that makes perfect sense. Thanks for the advice and these videos. Motivation you can watch! ;)

Also, you "rush" a squadron. Storming is something you do to beaches or if your name is Norman. 😂

@@CWLemoine Oh dang! Man, I knew that didn't quite sound right. Thanks, won't happen again.

True story.

Not sure what your asking. If your asking when the Thunderbirds went to the falcon I believe it was in 82. The pilots don't have a say in what plane the squad flies. That is left up to higher ranking officers.

@@fightingfalconfan I checked w/wikki & it said it was originally dubbed the fighting falcon but the pilots preferred "viper"...thx

drjaye1962 that’s correct, Fighting Falcon is the NATO designation. We call is the Viper. Likewise, the A-10 is the Thunderbolt 2 (NATO designation), but everyone calls it the Warthog or just Hog.

for the record the F 16 is my favorite plane, I've been fortunate enough 2 volunteer for several Thunderbird Airshows and 1 Blue Angel Airshow, mad respect for the entire team for their dedication to our great country

@@drjaye1962 yea, already knew this info. Not sure what the original question is asking about though.

I got a few backseat rides before UPT-one in a T-38, 2 in F-16s. I threw up on all of them. You get over it, and it’s easier when you’re the one actually flying. If you want it, you just have to be persistent and not give up.

I was in AFROTC for about 2 years before being medically DQ'ed and removed (for something pretty minor). It was a good time when I was in. For me personally the ROTC det was at a school 45 mins away from my current school, so every tuesday, i had to wear my uniform, and go to my normal classes, and after those classes around 11 ish I would make the drive down to nashville and attend my ROTC classes for the day. It was one class that was like an hour of lecture on military history and information essentially, then another like 2 hours ish of leadership lab which consisted of alot of marching typically. It was a chance for the 300 and 400's to really take leadership roles and command the det, since they were the fully trained ones having done field training. They would allow the 200 cadets to typically lead flights to get practice for their upcoming field training and the 100 cadets were the guinea pigs that were still learning and absorbing any information they could. After leadership lab we'd have a quick break and transition into PT, and PT as a Detachment for an hour ish, and they we'd go home which typically put me home around 6-7pm. Then on friday mornings at 6am we had PT at our own respective schools, they would assign a cadet from each school to essentially lead PT, that way we all didn't have to drive an hour twice a week to do PT. That's about it really. I enjoyed the experience, made alot of great friends, its like a brotherhood, and they allowed me lots of cool opportunities like flying actual aircraft through CAP flights, being on a color guard team and presenting the colors to a room full of 1000+ current and retired veterans etc. I am now on my way to joining the Marines, and waiting for word whether or not I made it into OCS as a pilot candidate! You never know your path! Good luck!!

100% agree

Factually correct

List of planes that I prefer to fly than the F18 1. A10 2. F16 3. F22 4. F15 5. F4 I could keep going...

@@alphacentauri34 You have flown all those? In real life?

@@KutWrite no lol

I’ve covered all of that in other videos. It’s also information that is easily found via google.

@@CWLemoine I'll look them up. Thanx.

Used to be 8 weeks. Don't know if that has changed

It was a rental, not very good

I did my private pilot certificate there at North Las Vegas when I was on casual status when I was at Nellis my first time.

@@Deuce_Dufresne hell yea dude, that was a good school. Also noticed you posed in front of 351, that jet was a code 1 beast when I was its DCC. I got there when they just left for kandahar 2013 and deployed with the 480th once while I was there in 2016, spangdahlem was something else.

I took my checkride in that plane! Small world

@@dyce189 no kidding it is a small world.

No such thing. The one that takes you and works out for you is the best path.

All that matters from the active duty perspective is getting a pilot slot. The academy may get more pilot slots per capita than ROTC, but they are still readily available from ROTC. Tracking to fighters is determined at UPT for active duty guys. If you go the ANG/reserve route you know you’re going to a fighter before UPT. There’s pluses and minuses to both ways.

Are you sure you have the right page? I am fairly active.

You don't need to enlist. It's a valid way to pay for college, but it is certainly not required.

C.W. Lemoine I know you don’t need to, but do you think it would benefit me on becoming a pilot? Or would it better to wait until I graduate?

@Christian if you don't need it to pay for school, I wouldn't. Get your degree. Get some flight time if you can. Get your scores up as high as you can on all the tests and keep your GPA up.

@Christian Going from enlisted to OTS in the air force can be a difficult endeavor; it's not impossible but the odd's are definitely against you. Continue in the direction you're heading and you're looking at a much better chance of earning your wings.

C.W. Lemoine thank you!

Crush ‘Em!

Assuming you're the same guy as in the video, would you mind sharing which years you flew with the Juvats?

Meaterschmitt 2012-2013

That’s more of a discussion to be had over a beer than on RU-vid

Deuce Dufresne well if you’re ever in Oregon and want a cold beer and to have this discussion I’ll be waitin sir, cheers!

Ez Bake I’ll take you up on that if I’m there!

ENJJPT is UPT. Except it involves students from other NATO countries as well and no T-1 track. I don't know how selection works these days

Thanks bud, I appreciate it

For ROTC (and I believe the academy as well) you could apply for ENJJPT when you apply for UPT. You need to get selected for it. Theoretically you get either a fighter or bomber out of it but that hasn’t always been the case. I honestly didn’t even apply for it as I was given some misinformation about it. But if you want fighters, it’s definitely something to go for.

But super cool

Depends on what you consider to be late. If after when you can get a pilot slot then yes. If not, ROTC is better in that you can get a scholarship. With OTS, you know if you have a pilot slot before committing.

Deuce Dufresne do you know if this is tru do the coast guard as well?

Yes you can. Options haven’t changed, you’re not that old. You could find a school with ROTC, apply to the academy, or do OTS after you graduate. You could also try to get hired by a Guard or reserve unit. I’d go Air Force personally....

@@Deuce_Dufresne First person to say that when answering this questions haha I was told ROTC would be the way, as OTS is much more competitive (not that I'm afraid of a little competition lol) AirForce is the goal but the air guard is definitely on the radar. Thank's for the help!

AJ Sap with ROTC you can get a scholarship, but you’re committed before you know about if you are getting a pilot slot. With OTS, you know if you have a pilot slot before committing.

24 miles

What's your specific question? Once you're in the process is the same regardless of age.

@@CWLemoine I just turn 30 last fall, unfortunately school wasn't a priority work was, mom and sis needed me more so I had to get out of college and go work, I've started once again and I got one goal and it has been the same since I was a kid, and that is to fly for the air foce but age is catching up to me, i recently found out about the age cap going up to 33 from 30 which is great, so i guess my question is; have you met or know of someone that started their career later in life or is there a way you can get any info for us that are just starting out?

Deuce

Tic-Toc was a B-course callsign...in other words doesn’t count. You get your actual callsign at your first operational assignment after the b course.

Yeah. T-38C

What's PC in my videos?