Did he go naturally or did he start tapping his pencil again…? Jokes aside, respect. The mission to the moon was the result of thousands of people working together like parts of an engine driving toward a goal that would redefine the human race.
@@dragonsword7370 I’m a romantic but going to the moon takes amazing work, which takes sacrifices……… I guess I’m a romantic but I’m more romantic about space travel.
@@dragonsword7370 Like one engineer put it "Some wives were wondering if we had mistresses. We did, and it was this rocket." Meaning, the Saturn V pretty much took over their lives.
@JZ's Best Friend I am reminded of the famous line in *The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance,* "This is the West sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."
Imagine the mix of terror and excitement for the engineers - you know you just got a really important contract, and you also don't know whether what you proposed to do is even feasible in the real world of time, funding, and resources.
Ah yes, the times when companies and contractors respected each other and themselves enough to call not only the winner, but also those who didn't get the contract and to stop them from hanging in limbo for whole week.
Wonder if they did that for job applicants back then too? "We'll let you know sometime next week" is almost as big a lie as "I have read the terms and conditions."
I can't help but think Grumman winning the lunar lander contract helped the F-14 become a reality, even though it got mated to a shitty engine in its earliest incarnations.
@@bugwar5545 I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you are not an engineer. Because if you were, you would know that that's not what motivated those people and that many of them sacrificed a LOT of themselves into this work. Engineers do what they do because they love it, and getting to do what you love on a project like this is a Dream come true.
@@jonjohns8145 "Engineers do what they do because they love it, ..." SOME Engineers. Most do what they do for the sweet, sweet paycheck. Which they do love, to be honest. That and a nice air conditioned workplace, as well as snob appeal.
@@bugwar5545 Air conditioning is little solace when it's 2:00 AM and you are pulling your hair out trying to figure out why the system you are working on STILL won't work as it should.
@@jonjohns8145 "Pulling your hair out..." doesn't sound like you're in a job you love. It does smack of loving that big pay check and frustrated at having to work for it.
My friend worked at Rocketdyne in California and worked on the space program. Later, he moved to Texas to work for other NASA contractors. After the first moon landing, he lost interest in engineering and became a custom home builder.
My grandfather was an engineer without an engineering degree who did a ton of work on the waste system. Even had to go up to MIT and explain what he was doing to the phds because they were so in the dark.
rabidklein Engineering: a man or woman who fixes problems and issues using his/her ingenuity... Your grandfather was an Engineer, of course he was... you might be one as well, the title is a fancy recognition... there is math and science involved with the title, but one can learn that on our own as well... with ingenuity.
Some of the best and most capable engineers don't have engineering degrees. The problem is that people with degrees often will look down on non-degreed engineers. These days a lot of places won't hire people without a degree irregardless of how smart and capable they are.
A degree does not equal Efficiency. And I 'm an Electrical Engineer. As a degree shows you can do the work. Know how to solve equations to problems that will come up. I mean would you get on an Airplane designed by high school student. I would want proof they know all the problems associated with Aerodynamics. Have the skills too. As fixing something. That someone else already designed. Is not what an Engineer does. Engineers design, build things given to them with all the constraints of budgets. Time limits and resources given them. As it first starts in the minds of Men. You can make it better. No problem. As you don't have those constraints. You have the advantage of fixing something that already exist. Has detailed schematics to repair it. So not the same as what Engineers deal with...
More like we're engineers and we are going to engineer the impossible, and we got a government contract. So we get to keep our jobs, and might hire more people. I doubt they'd be as good at their jobs without support from their families at home.
And after this comment was published, NASA discovered that Earth's "atmosphere" extends a bit beyond the Moon XD Science is trully magnificent, when we think we got it all figured out...
@@jmchdjaimerporkpuedolol3681 Well, calling the Geocorona the "atmosphere" is an example of what we in Denmark call "flueknepperi" or "flyfucking". Sure, it by definition is, but it's so insignificant as to not really matter regarding anything.
If you ignore the Russians doing the first Luna fly by, probe, probe to Venus, first man in space, first animal in space, first woman in space, first Satellite.
@@samuelfawell9159 I think what he meant was the Lunar Excursion Module was the first manned spaceship that flew exclusively in space. Other manned spacecraft were designed to land through an atmosphere. This was taken into space as cargo and only launched when in deep space. Before that you'd had only unmanned probes.
I love how they costumed the Grumman engineer,s in full-geek, 1962 garb: short hair,cuts black trousers, white dress shirt with pocket full of writing implements and a skinny black tie. Appaently different colors of pants, shits and ties didn't exist iback n 1962, a least not in dork land.
Period accurate and Tom Kelly has a habit of throwing a ball against a wall in the episode. Also a similar "problem - fix it - problem - fix it" feel from the movie.
@@bremCZ stop pretending; did the Russians, Germans, etc. go to the moon? We designed it, we built it, we had the engineering and manufacturing and gumption to get it done. Did the British?
@@tonydean6684 We? If by we you mean the Germans, Poles, and British then yes, we designed it. If by we you only mean Americans, then you are a victim of the US propaganda machine.
@@bremCZ Nothing makes you leftists happier than denigrating the US. Who designed the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo engines, electronics, computers, guidance, communications? Who tested them, and who paid for them? Did your friends in Russia build, test and pay for them? Did your friends in China walk on the moon? With you leftists, what is theirs is theirs, and what is ours is theirs. Grow up, comrade. But don't worry, you still have the magnificent achievements of North Korea and Cuba to admire.
You don't get it. You have NO IDEA! The sheer joy of seeing what you thought up, drew on paper, saw built, and fly, beats little things like wealth and orgasms. Their thumb prints are on the EFFEN' MOON!
"We're all just observing a moment of silence for the companies that didn't". If you didn't get that joke, then something's wrong with you because that's funny.
Great Series. This probably is my favorite episode, because it covers all the ups and downs of trying to do what’s never been accomplished, on a limited budget, with absolutely crushing time pressure.
it was the first spacecraft ever to be designed exclusively for space flight....you're going to have mistakes. i''l pointout that it was grumman's work that got the apollo 13 crew home.
Has anyone ever made such a complicated machine without making mistakes? Has anyone ever accomplished any complex task without making mistakes? You can mitigate the severity and number of mistakes with good development practices. But even then there will never be a shortage of mistakes that need to be ironed out through extensive testing. And even then some will inevitably slip through into the final product (ask any writer, and they will tell you that no matter how many drafts you write or how many times your editor goes over it there will always be some typos in the final book). Humans simply aren't capable of accomplishing a complex task without making any mistakes. No one had ever built a LEM before. And frankly I think Grumman did an excellent job.
@@jonasthemovie It was the LEM initially, and it was changed to LM early in development (apparently they figured Lunar Excursion Module sounded too much like the astronauts were taking a vacation). I don't think it's a big deal if people use LEM, even if the finalized name was technically LM.
After 14 years in the industry, the very first company I worked for, where I *didn’t* have to dress business formal, was IBM. One of life’s little ironies.
I used to have a friend that tapped his ✏️ on the table all the time. To solve that problem. I broke the ✏️ and ate it in front of him... lmao...he never tapped his ✏️ again.
True story, they lost the contract when the gov. Official reported back that they didn't seem very interested in the project based off of Kelly's reaction on the phone. We ended up faking everything after that for convenience.
Cheers and partiotic music. That's great. Now show the scenes at the companies who didn't get the contract and went bankrupt. Their employees not knowing how to feed their kids next month. Then play the same patriotic music. Oh no that's right... We don't wanna remind ourselves that in competition there is always someone who dosen't win.
At that time, none of the companies that had a legitimate chance to get the contract were depending on that contract for their future. Not a single one.
Wow that’s a cheesy scene, the pencil tapping, the mourning comment, the pretending they didn’t get the contract, was always interested in watching this series until now.