From Wicca to Christ w/ Vesper Stamper (Shocking Content Warning) 

New age witchcraft almost ruined my life. Praise God that he saved me from that demonic trap.

I am a Christian, and a professional full time artist, and I feel VERY much alone in the world. I needed this podcast. Thank you

Years of confusion, dabbling with various occult theories and practices, sexual immorality, porn addiction, and occasionally approaching Jesus but never really committing have left me a jaded and skeptical, grumpy old man. I have to say that watching this, watching you two interact, listening to her story has opened something in me. I feel like something has shifted, whatever the bleep that means? I love you both is all I can say. Thank you and God Bless you.

I love how Matt interviews people. He is just so present and honest and real. I love these interviews so much

I don’t know what she does for a living, but she needs to investigate broadcasting. Her voice is pure good! Radio, TV, Podcasting, singing, audio books… something! What A Gift!

Raised Catholic I walked away from Jesus and got stuck in witchcraft coming out of the occult myself after working in the New age industry my whole life knowing I was misleading people Iam now a returning Catholic Iam 53 mother of 3 adults and the saddest thing is how much time I’ve wasted in the darkness Jesus saves better late than never Fantastic woman fantastic stories ❤

When she talked about being tucked in the wound in Jesus side, I was reminded of a prayer from St Alphonsus Liguori "...Therefore I place myself into the wound of Thy sacred side and beneath the protecting mantle of my Mother Mary. May Thy holy angels assist me and watch over my peace, and may Thy holy blessing remain with me."

What she said about, it isn’t about you was my biggest “aha” moment when I began going to the Latin mass. It’s not about how loudly I reply or how well I sung , it’s about me being present at the holy sacrifice of the mass. Man once I figured that out I was able to truly participate in mass by remaining silent and simply being. “Be still and know that I Am God”

As a Protestant who loves Jesus and enjoys your show, I appreciated your expression of love for said Protestants. ❤ Also, the Grace of God displayed in Vesper's life is beautiful. I'm reminded of his High Priestly Prayer when Christ says "and none of them are lost." He goes after His sheep.

I am not a Catholic and honestly, I was raised with a negative bias towards it. However, I have found nothing but true blue believers spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I am proud to call myself your sister in Christ.

Her story is heartbreaking. God bless this woman. The suffering and horrible things she went through. So glad she found God and found her way out of her abyss. Praise be to God.

New Age practices were so attractive to me in my youth. There were movies like the Craft and other similar movies that made it attractive. I used to go into new age bookstores and I was so attracted to the candles, the idea of the rituals, the “esoteric knowledge” and I am a cradle Catholic. I have come to the realization that all of the desires for ritual are satisfied in the Roman Catholic Church. The truth truly sets us free and the truth is in the Church established by Jesus Christ.

I know this sounds weird, but I was a Christian-turned-atheist until i started to dabble in witchcraft/New Ageism, and I felt genuine fear. And then bad/unexplainable things started happening at home and in my life. But that fear, wow. Not sure if it was fear of hell, of the demonic, no idea. But it made me realize that I did have faith after all, and I thank God for that.

I was raised JW, went to a bunch of churches after I was DF'd, joined a Traditional British coven, moved to Buddhism, then harcore atheist for years. Now, preparing for OCIA and it feels like coming home.

Thursday NEEDS to make a short or gif out of Matt saying, “I ffffffreaking love Protestants who love Jesus.” 😂❤

I’m an Orthodox Christian Actor and so appreciate everything about her story. She is wonderful. Early in life I had an episode of an unclean Spirit speaking those thoughts and the Lord Jesus Christ delivered me instantly. I love you guys. God bless!

I'm an Orthodox Christian and I absolutely believe Catholics are our bros and sisters. Many Orthodox do not feel this way, so I understand how they can be off-putting. Thank you for airing this particular video. May God bless you and your podcast.

I had the same experience! I had all these sinful evil thoughts in my head, demonic entities would enter my dreams and tempt me into sin, or to manifest them, or I would try to exorcize them out of a house. And in my waking hours, all these thoughts would come into my mind and implant themselves. Praise the Lord that I actually met a priest who does healing and liberation ministry. After he had laid his hands on me and prayed, that night I experienced that peace and silence that she had mentioned. I cried tears of joy! And mass the next day was truly a celebration! Prayer works!

It's so great to see Matt invite Orthodox Christians on Pints. Please invite more if possible.

I am a cradle Catholic, my mother's family is full of priests and nuns, 2 of them martyred and beatified. That did not stop me from getting pretty deep into occultism. I believe the prayers of my aunt, a Carmelite nun, through the Virgin Mary's grace saved me and brought me back to the faith.

“Do you want Jesus”. Raise your hands those who didn’t tear up together with Matt!!

I was really into attempting astral projection in my 20's, and one time, I felt my astral body lifting out of my physical body just by an inch in my fingers and arms. It felt more real than my daily waking life, but just as I was lifting out, there was this dark shadowy presence at the foot of my bed just watching me. It was terrifying... so malevolent...intensly still, just waiting and watching... I was scared back into my body and never attempted again. I thought it had probably been my imagination, but now I am thankful I went no further.

WOW, I'm only 20 minutes in and this is like my life but on the other side of the coin. Early sexual abuse, acting out as a kid. Nightly demonic attacks. Researching occult as a teen. Fully immersed in college. Initiated two traditional African religions, Native shamanism and any and everything occultic. Not as much wiccan, I'm black/native so I more those beliefs. Started dreaming of Jesus in 2001, and ran for three years. Had major miracles involving the Virgin Mary. Come to faith but still bordering the occult. Set free 2005/06 but terribly oppressed. Seek deliverance am very oppressed, in Protestant Church no one believes I can be demonically oppressed. Eventually turn to our Mother (very scared too, as many African religious beliefs hid their "gods" in the guise of Saints) so had a very hard time trusting in the intercession of the Saints. Her love for me overcame all my fears. She will indeed lead you to her son. Praise Jesus. Was baptized in the Orthodox Church 7 years ago after many years of study. Was raised in a non-religious home filled with sin but Praise God my mom kept me in Catholic schools and I was 10 the Blessed Mother visited me, after that night I was no longer attacked demonically in a specific way as I had been for years. I saw shamans from the Amazon, Hindu priests, and Buddhist monks. I was initiated in Reiki up to level 2. Religious vegan and open to ANYTHING except Judaism, Islam, and Christianity. Praise God he saved me. I have a great devotion to our Lady and St. Michael specifically. Have a great love for my Roman brothers and sisters in Christ. Can't wait to the hereafter to serve our Lord and King Jesus Christ eternally.

Matt's one of the guys partly responsible for my being drawn towards Catholicism, and I really have a desire to be a part of the Church. As someone who was an atheist for years (and Protestant growing up), the tradition and clarity of what the Church is and was is what draws me to it. I see people like Matt that want to preserve that and not conform it to the world and the whims of the present. God bless you Sir, keep being a loving and open, yet firm and unshakable opposition to the present age. You and others like you are a beacon that reflect the love of Christ into the darkness.

As a Protestant, this episode really blessed me. It’s 3:00 in the morning and the closing prayer had me weeping in my bed from start to finish. I think I’m going to start praying that every night. God bless you both. Ave Christus Rex

I went through my house and threw away all the witchcraft things I had. Tarot cards, pendulum, sage, and a bunch of books. I just had this feeling overcome me that I HAD to get that stuff out of my house.

The Lord worked on my heart in Adoration and showed me that I was holding a feeling of abandonment by the Lord that was an obstacle to emotional intimacy. He’s big enough and strong enough to take the “where were you - why didn’t you save me?” question and offer healing.

What a privilege to listen to Vesper’s story! So moving! I loved her remark: “it either comes from the Lord or from the Devil!” How we need such women in our Church experience! People such as she will be the “Arbiters of Church unity”!

"they did a folk mass" "I'm so sorry. That's why you're orthodox today" 😂 Matt you kill me.

I love how Matt gets so emotional because he can feel God so strongly in people's testimony. Amen 🙏🏾

I am often admiring of my Protestant brothers for their evangelical spirit. Jesus has been able to bring so many people to Himself through their efforts. We have much to learn from them.

I’m not a Catholic but what a journey this woman has had! God is good, God is love.

Seeing Matt cry is incredibly powerful. Her testimony is just stunning. God bless you both! Viva Cristo Rey

Vesper is an amazing woman of faith from every angle-and a dear friend!! What a beautiful surprise for me to see this come up today as a recommendation!!

I had a friend in college who told me she had left her body and thought it was really cool, until she tried to return to her body and found somebody else was there. "I had to FIGHT it to get my body back." She RAN to the church and never looked back.

Didn’t expect the 4 words to make me cry at work. Put a warning on that too guys! Praise Jesus! Bert for the win

When people ask, "Where was God during X atrocity/tragedy? Why didn't He do something?", people need to ask the same thing about Jesus' Passion, Crucifixion, and death, the worst of the worst atrocities/tragedies. They need to realize that, if the Father didn't intervene to stop His Son's suffering and torture, neither should we think we have a right to His intervention in our suffering. Rather God's answer to those questions is to suffer with us, exactly as we suffer, in the person of Jesus Christ and to show us how to humbly trust the Father and bear it with confident hope of redemption of all evil and suffering.

Vesper should do audio for Hallow or audiobooks. Her voice during that prayer was so light & spirit filled. (Matt your great too)!

This resonates so much with me. The SA, the non existent childhood with different fathers. Dabbling in new age mambo jambo. Took one very scary unholy incident to make me turn back to God and now, it’s only about God. I too realised He has always been there, trying to reach out and I kept rejecting Him. I am ao grateful He has been so so so patient with me all these years and taken me back with His wide open loving arms. Thank you Father for not giving up on me. Amen.

I have friends and the mom is Catholic and the dad is Jewish. My birthmom has mental illness. I'm glad I have medical Lupus and Bipolar support in my adoption family. I came here on your recommendation and I'm glad I did. Vesper is a wonderful guest.

Matt, if you call up Bert to tell him you love him, tell him I do too. My heart is filled with gratitude for what Jesus did through his intercession for Vesper and her family.

I'm barely half way and just wanted to say THANK YOU. You two have shared something that relates so much to my life. These stories are what give me and others hope. Glory be to God.

I practiced wicca too, just a month ago I was saved. I was suicidal and like her I have racing thoughts of terrible things. I did get help for my mental illness, but it was Jesus that truly saved me and changed my life. He saved me from things that I didn't know was ruining me. Thank you God for your goodness!

Fr. Mike from Ascension presents gave me some good advice on how to honor your parents when the relationship is toxic and abusive. He said you can honor them by not repeating the same behavior and abusive patterns onto your children. This has changed my whole life hearing this and I’m so thankful and blessed for him responding to my email on that.

48:00 this moment is what makes this podcast top tier. God bless you both.

I'm a Protestant who went to a very Catholic high school. I love Catholicism. He loves all people. And He saves all people who accept His gift.

Power to this woman for praising her mother for leaving domestic violence. This truly has the power to allow physical, emotional and spiritual safety. Ignore toxic voices that tell you to stay, no matter your sex or background. ❤

She is a *fabulous* story teller.

It is as if Vesper and I lived parallel lives. I cried so much listening to her story because this was my childhood as well. Not being heard. Not being believed. Living as a latchkey kid. Then having to forgive and let go of the anger and resentment with the help and love of Christ . Thank you , Matt for having her on.

Welcome sister. I too have been involved in the occult. Catholicism has been anything but perfect or easy, but it is home. May God continue to bless your journey. ❤

I'm not a christian, but I'm very curious and interested in other ways of life. It often brings to be unexpected places, like this podcast episode. I might not relate to all of this but I loved how earnest and open Vesper was, this was a very engaging listen. Thank you for sharing your story!

Her post "yes" vision of throwing piles of paper at Jesus's feet reminds me very strongly of Til We Have Faces by CS Lewis... phenomenal book. Thank you for an excellent interview -- I can't stop listening!

Loved this guest! Praise God for his patience and mercy on us poor broken creatures. What a tender Father we have In heaven.

I love how her demeanor changes... When she talks about her encounter with Jesus, she lights up with love!

I absolutely adored this conversation! Vesper has an incredible story and inspires me as an aspiring fiction writer. Stoked to read her books. Thanks PWA!

Watching this as a Muslim. Please stay away from witchcraft. It is a major sin. I hope all people who practice this get back to God and follow his message before it’s too late.

I'm really thankful for this video. My daughter is in a place now where she thinks she can be a "christian witch", even though I tell her there's no such thing (thank you, TikTok). And Vesper is right - it's all about control. Due to things that happened in her life, I think my daughter feels the need to control her emotions, reactions, and environment. Herbs, lore, incantations, etc. And if I say anything, she'll dig deeper into it. And YES, she thinks it's all about light and love and not being bound to something that was made by old men that's out of date. I just keep praying to know when and what to say to her, and when to keep my mouth closed and be prayerful about it. I'm hoping she comes out on the other side with a stronger belief in Christ and His church. Right now she's too worried about anyone's feelings being hurt by "strict" religious beliefs and especially cannot stand Catholicism. sigh.

for anyone who doesn't believe this story here listen to mine. I am a saved human being by Jesus Christ. However I wasn't always this way. Growing up I was Christian however there was never pressure in my family to stay Christian or even go to church for a long time. I knew what the bible said about witchcraft, however in my life at that point I don't think I ever felt God, it doesn't mean he wasn't with me. But I never felt him, nor did I chase after him. Once I was 15 a few different traumatic things had already happened to me. Intense bullying, friends suicide, sexual assault, and much more. Once I started middle school I had made up my mind, no one was going to make me feel lesser than them, and no one was going to make someone else feel lesser than them in front of me. My mom had caught wind of this, she knew the longer id stay in school the more I was going to fight back and fight for others. And at an attempt to help keep my innocence the innocence I had left, she decided to homeschool me. But in that transition I had found some books and websites on witchcraft and Wicca. I started practicing when I turned 16 and I should tell you (whoever is reading now) All of the spells that I did worked and every time that a spell worked I felt more and more empty. My depression would get worse the more pride id gain over a successful spell. I was on an endless loop, out of control trying to gain control over everything. I was 20 when I was saved, and it happened in a miraculous way. Now I'm not going to call this what it's not. IF you don't believe this story, thats okay even after being saved I questioned what happened to me. But I'm going to say it like it is. One day about four years ago I was doing a spell and then was told to get ready to leave. So I put my candles out, made sure the glass that it was in was cold. Then I covered my 'altar', I went to go get snowballs with my mom. (Unknowingly to me at the time, My mother had been praying that I will come back to Jesus. Asking God to give her a chance to make things right. Like starting to go to church.) While we were gone we got a call from our alarm system company that their was a fire at our house. I couldn't believe it, in fact I didn't, until I got home and saw the smoke. The firemen came and put out the little bit of fire that was on the altar. It didn't do any other damage to the house. Apart from the ceiling and the desk itself. All of the tools I used to practice witchcraft was burnt including my book of shadows. Seeing all of this happening I did feel sorry for myself, sorry for my things. And sorry to my parents. But what I was most sorrowful for is that when I entered my room where the fire happened I felt God's Authority for the first time. And above all the things I was sorry for, I was the most sorry that I had angered him. I couldn't speak, I wanted to tell my parents I was sorry I wanted to cry. But it was like I wasn't allowed too. Then the words came to me which were the only things I was able to get out my mouth and the words were, "Jesus Forgive me." and I cried, I wept. But it wasn't out of remorse or shame now, it was freedom and just this intense sorrowful gratefulness. It's so hard to explain. But on that day I was forced to throw a lot of my witchcraft out, because of the fire. And I truly believe it was God that started the fire. I believe he called me, and choose to answer to him Now. Praise be to God, Amen.. thx also for reading if you did. May God bless you

I relate to so many of the core aspects of her life story, raised in chaos, raised by wolves, how it makes seeing reality important to you and that you see things other people don’t see bc of it

The prayer at the end was the most powerful and engaging moment I have ever heard on this podcast. God bless you all.

She truly is a beautiful woman inside and out, I just prayed for her shoulder...❤ I am not a Catholic .. But I've been binge-watching this channel for the last couple days maybe 3 days... I have to say that it's been healing for me because there's a lot of bad things being said about the Catholics... And even though I don't agree on several things, I can see genuine love of Jesus Christ from you both and other people that I've seen on your show as well... So the healing part is dropping judgment and being able to love without agreeing on some things... So thank you for that

Today was my first live Pints, I usually listen in the evening. I want to say I appreciate the topics that are discussed as well as the amazing guests. I have also enjoyed the new format with Matt and Thrsdy. Thrsdy has brought new perspective and depth to Pints. Thank you for all you do to further the Kingdom.

I pray to the LORD for more conversions, they need back to GOD, I thanks to God, HE always open his merciful ❤. Thank for the podcast, testimonies are powerful for others .

Wow. Thank you so much for sharing your story. I am 30 minutes in and my story parallels in so many ways! I grew up in the Pacific NW in the 90s and witchcraft was rampant. My best friend and I practiced Astral projection around 10/11 and my friend's experience was exactly what you shared. She started to be able to start to leave her body, but got scared and was slammed back in. So much of my family experience and personal experiences were the same, although undated of NYC, in the country, poor. A lot of these experiences and the Catholic church's doctrine on demonic entities are a big part of what took me from not being able to believe to bring able to see it as logical.

If there is anyway I can get connected with her, I feel it would help my healing immensely. Our stories are shockingly parallel. Hearing her share her testimony, has already felt like one of the biggest God hugs I’ve received. Wow. Praise Be! 🌹

Goddess-worshipping Pagan witch to Catholic here 👋

I confess that I don't often watch Pints with Aquinas but this is the very best interview I have seen on this channel. Vesper is wonderful! Her story was so interesting and inspirational.

I was deeply into new age occult and witchcraft and it had ruined my life. Depression, suicidal thoughts, drugs, gluttony etc etc etc yet i was delusional enough to think that i was “manifesting” great things. I pray God everyday and thank him for his forgiveness and his guidance. I turned to Him a year and a half ago and my life has blossomed. No longer depressed, and my anxiety has gone down. My relationships have never been better and my health as well.

Loved every single minute of this! Im a graphic designer and illustrator, and was so moved by your God journey! Implimenting God into my Illustration teachings has been amazing and frustrating as i battle the masses who turn me away because of my mention of Christianity. I too was born in Germany and lived in New York for a stint. Was moved to beautiful Colorado at an early age and desperately wish id have had more training at a young age like you! 25 yrs as a graphic designer and now pushing my way into the illustration realm. You are an amazing inspiration Vesper! You have a new fan for sure. God bless you in your continuous growth and aspirations, and in healing!❤ and Matt, you have a new fan as well! Love you, and your podcast, lining them up for a listen! Loved the one with Lila, and the very moving story with Kim Zember! The world needs more of these discussions...raw, real, truthful and amazingly faithful❤❤❤

Fairytales were more real to me than real life too… I’ve never heard anyone else say it like you did… Extend grace to the grown ups- I’m crying. Yes. That’s it right there… praise the Lord for being our true Father ♥️

It was the way you carried yourself through all the hardships you have been facing alone through using power of anger as fuel without realising the negative side of it. That could be why the chronic pains that came latter to haunt you again for years. Thanks God that you have come out with victories to share them here. Amen. God bless your road ahead.

Great guest… I worked with an amazing goth illustrator, Dame Darcy, who is a self-declared witch. I should begin praying for her

What a powerful testimony, I was mesmerized for the entire episode. I confess I wept too at the moment Vesper described her conversion to Christ. As always, excellent interview Matt, thank you.

I’m reminded that the standard for forgiveness is Jesus forgiving those who placed him on the cross…through false testimony to the very nails that fixed him there until death. Very high standard. It was helpful, in that it was a reminder that being incessantly bullied as a young girl is nothing compared to the scourging and the cross. Great long form discussion. Thank you.

Matt, I want to thank you for this beautiful interview. I think this is the first time I’ve ever witnessed an interviewer so genuinely compassionately engaged with his interviewee. That is truly healing to watch. That moment…”Do you want Jesus?”…😭 Well, anyone who has received the unspeakable undeserved gift of encountering Him knows exactly what is going on here! I bless all the “Burts” in my life! I started out Methodist, (encountered Jesus as a child) traveled through Pentecostalism and various iterations of Evangelicalism as a teen and adult until I reached the end of my rope after over 20 years in the same Evangelical church and cried out for an answer…the answer that came led me into the Orthodox Church. It’s been 16 years, and humanly speaking this is as messy and imperfect place as exists in the world, but in terms of the Tradition-the Liturgy, Dogma and Saints, it is my only true spiritual home. I’ve never looked back. Vesper, thank you so much for telling your story. The Burts of this world surely are not going to lose their reward! I’m also working to steer the narrow path between rigorism and legalism on one side vs. boundary-less undiscerning liberalism on the other, so thank you for touching on that (I’m halfway through the interview). Thank God He does not allow us to rest and be at peace until we are right where He wants us-in His embrace.

This woman. Praise God for her! Such a beautiful heart for God.

Just incredible. Don’t know how to say what that interview made me feel, except that it was powerful. Agape? I’m a bit older than Vesper, but there were so many synchronicities of the heart in her experiences and my own that I felt truly exposed. Dang Matt, another great one. God bless.

The Shroud was mentioned here. I just wanted to comment that there was something interesting about this from Father Carlos Martins, who has the Exorcist Files podcast. He mentioned in a case file podcast that a priest gave him a tiny thread from the shroud. He didn't know if it was an authentic thread. He was performing one of the hardest exorcisms without results and so he pulled out the thread during a session. The demon (as in the manifestation in the possessed person ) immediately became quiet, subdued, and made the person's body into the shape of Jesus on the shroud, with arms crossed etc. Like God had commanded it to be submissive. Father Carlos then knew the thread was authentic.

"I really do know she did the best she could, but with fewer resources..." rings so true to my experience with my mother and her mental illness.

I loved this interview, and I love Vesper’s testimony and deep love for the Lord.

The spirit (Holy) present during this interview was so gentle and uplifting. What a lovely witness to our Lord. May He continue to bless you according to His ownership and love. Bless you both and thank you

Oh I really enjoyed this podcast. Her expressive nature and warmth makes me feel like I'm listening to a friend. I too wandered arounded NYC in the 90's, went to the East West bookstore, film school at Parsons and ate up every New Age workshop. I came to God in 2021 on the heels of coming out of a mental illness collapse. God's grace restored me and saved my life. No more more occult and New Age. My sanity restored and my grateful heart thanks God everyday. Thank you for this lovely podcast. Yes Tikki Marsala is the bomb ;)

This is one of my favorite interviews ever and it has played a big part in my conversion. Thank you!

Everyone else can cry, but I cannot take Matt crying. I have to go back into the office looking crazy now.

I didn't plan on watching this episode; stayed to the ending prayer, which was Beautiful. Thank you Matt , Vesper and crew. Glory be to God.

How beautiful the prayers were at the end 😭❤️🙏

I watch a lot of conversion stories from atheism/agnosticism to Christianity and it’s so beautiful how God makes himself known to each person. And also I’m eternally grateful I was raised in the Church because already as a catholic teen I was incredibly self-centered/prideful/anxious… I don’t know if I would’ve found Him or listened to His voice if I didn’t already have the foundation my parents built for me. God you are too good to each one of us, uniquely.

Wow. This is speaking to me. My mom was also into new age stuff when I was a teenager and it was all about "light" and "goodness". Then we (my mother, father, my younger brother, and I) went to the Hare Krishna temple. We were there for 13 years. My entire 20's. I danced before idols and had my own idols at home that I served, but for some reason never had a negative spiritual experience. When I found Christ and was starting to go to church I was in the shallow end of the pool with the "progressive" Christians. I knew that I had to dedicate my life to one path and the last time I was at temple, it was for an engagement ceremony and I was distraught and praying and crying about whether I should stay or go and I heard a voice very clearly state that "I am everywhere". So I realized that I had to leave the temple and become a Christian. That's a whole other story and I ended up in the Western Rite Vicariate of the Antiochian Orthodox Church. I could not be happier. My husband who was a Buddhist when we met is now inquiring into the Church and will hopefully soon go through catechism and be received. I'm just continuing to pray. Thank you so much for this episode. Now I'm going to finish it. 🙂

What a wonderful testimony

I have watched/listened to so many Pints and this one is now tied with my favorite show (Aliens and Paul Thigpen ❤). She's amazing. Thank you for letting her tell her powerful story.

I want to be like bert.... What a guy. Love a pure vessel like him. what a role model.. God Bless you Bert..

love the sensitivity that Matt holds with her story. so beautiful.

The power of that prayer at the end 🥺🤯🙏🏻 one of my fav episodes yet. This was incredible!

I love Matt’s emotion…. I can’t explain but it’s profound. I needed this testimony today. This from a cradle Catholic that has had wonderful miracles and blessings in my life at 58. Thank you Matt and Vesper.

I once worked with a nurse and baptized Catholic who told me she was into Wicca. I told her the truth but she told me that she liked the sense of empowerment it gave her as a woman. 😕 I just prayed for her after that.

Wow I love her soothing voice. Thanks for sharing your story! I’m so glad she found Jesus despite the rough childhood. 🙏🏻

Matt, this is one of your best videos that I've watched. Absolutley loved it. Especially the ending prayer. Thank you for sharing.

Vesper, your artwork is absolutely beautiful and enchanting 🌸❤️

Excellent program and so timely! I am praying for your continued ministry, Matt.

What an inspirational story! Thank you for sharing this, Vesper. Thank you, Mat, for having her on.