You being a retired commercial HVAC mechanic, it probably brought back memories of leaving a jobsite that, while running, you weren't 100% sure that you had found the real problem and might be back. I know the feeling.
Yeah...I HATED when an intermittent problem couldn't be found and had to leave unsure. But I always made the people aware of the situation before getting a signature. They seemed to appreciate the honesty and most of the time on a return, we would just add to the original invoice as though I never left the job. In other words, without and additional service charge. It happens to virtually every tech, but you gotta keep it at a minimum. I was pretty lucky in that department. Oh, I CAN tell some stories about commercial HVAC issues. LOL
@@tractorman4461 In the 90's companies folded every couple years. I worked for 5 not counting State Farm, owning a book store, and selling radio advertising. Every factory had to have the office HVAC gone through. Most had little or no history of service or connection with a service company and they were in different towns. I just kept having the same service company I started with in 1980 do the service work every time. They also did the electrical work that we couldn't. Nice to have someone you can trust. Don't think they gained any customers though. Every place closed soon after I left. It was a rough decade.
Sometimes it gets a little tough. I couldn't even get in to the wires without removing the starter motor !! Luckily this one worked out pretty good, even though I don't have a definitive cause for the shutdown...yet. It could be an intermittent fault of one of the door switches OR still a chewed wire intermittently grounding the ignition...time will tell though. Thanks for watching today and as well for the kind words.
Good Morning Tom. There's nothing worse than trying to find an intermittent short or ground !! Thank you for the vote of confidence my friend. I hope all is well with you today.
Well Zane, it IS running but I'm not totally sure what it was that cleared the grounding. So for the present I am considering it an intermittent issue. It WILL show back up for sure.
Good troubleshooting Wendell! I have been fighting mice at my place in the country for 30plus years, Couple years ago came upon spearmint or peppermint oil soaked cotton balls. Just push a cotton ball in the bottle with a thin jaw longnose plier to get it soaked and put a few in the battery box or wherever. Originally used it for wasp's but keeps mice away too!
That's another good idea, thanks for the suggestion. I hate mice !! I have to keep mouse traps set continually in our garage and keep dog and bird feed inside metal trash cans with lids.
I don't know if I'm happier to know its probably a switch or not. It could still be one of the chewed wires grounding out that's just not been located yet too. They really made points and condensor ignitions obsolete with the Magnetron.
The Everyday Projects channel guy just did a video of keeping mice out of his off grid house with Pine Sol. He liberally swabbed Pine Sol on the floor and around the threshold, he stated that this has been very effective as the mice do not like the smell of the Pine Sol. Maybe put a cup or two on there and bag the motor to slow evaporation of the liquid. Possibly just swab a good amount around the motor and spill some on the ground as well. Worth a try.
Now that's a good idea. I've never heard that before. Thanks for the added input and I'm sure that's what I'll do. I have had lots of mice issues over the years...the worst being eating all the wires off the ECM all the way up to the box itself. That was the old 85 Ford. Luckily they are very reasonable to replace.
Good evening Wendell.. I know I am a little late but have been busy and haven’t had time to watch any RU-vid… That my friend was the best explanation I have had.. I hate working on small engines.. The intimidate the heck out of me.. I can work on just about everything else.. But never had any one explain them to me.. It like plumbing.. I can’t sweat a joint to save my behind.. hahahaha And that people have shown me but nope.. I always get squirted in the eye when I try.. hahahaha Thanks for sharing this issue with us.. Cheers
Aw heck Gus, that's not a problem. I know everyone has a busy life these days. I just really appreciate you guys watching what you DO get a chance to watch. Speaking of soldering, I have a little dribble on a fitting at my daughters house to repair right now. Don't worry, I have a bucket under it. LOL
Good fix buddy I could take the plug out and check for spark but then you lost me after that . glad you got it figured out and you are right about the mice they will get into things that looks impossible to get in take care have a great week . we are getting some White stuff here today some places could get up to a ft schools are closed but that don't take much for them to close glad I am looking out the window in the house not the windshield of the big truck don't miss that part of it for sure take care have a great week
Oh man, there you go with that nasty four letter word again !! I'm sure it adds stress to the long haul when you were behind the wheel of those big ones. I always figured I could herd one down the straight stretches, but never thought I'd be able to put 'em into some of the tight docks I've seen you guy do. Btw, I didn't think Canadians even knew what a snow day was....LOL. You guys enjoy the white stuff today.
It sure fired in an instant once the problem was gone. That really surprised me with such a quick start. I thought for sure it'd been flooded with all the spark checks I'd done previously.
After all of this, we're back to the reliable old mouse trap(s). No, I don't mean to imply that repairing this annoying fault(s) is easy, it is not, but those darn mice still don't know what a mouse trap tastes like, so that's your best defense, I hope. Thumbs up here Brother!
Hahahaha....well, I've had TWO suggestions so far. One is to wipe it down with Pine Sol or leave a small open container to evaporate and the second one is to use Downey dryer sheets in the battery box and under the wiring area. All good ideas including the mouse traps. So I'm sure the issue will pop back up pretty quick if its one of the proximity switches. So when it does, we will find it for sure....maybe anyway. As long as it works when I want it to, I am happy. Have a great week Reg and thank you for watching another one.
@@tractorman4461 My .22 rifle and I can be hired LOL. "Have gun will travel " comes back to mind here. The only issue is cost , well that, and all the legal implications of a Canadian travelling to the US with a rifle and ammo,...hahahahaha! Might be easier to ban all mice from chewing on wires.
@@regsparkes6507 Hahahahaha....I can just imagine the conversation at the border...LOL Though your expertise is welcome, I think it prudent for me to choose a less disruptive route for mouse removal than imposing on my Newfoundland friend.... LOL.
Downy Dryer Sheets will keep mice away. The Missus shouldn't miss one from the laundry. I recommend adding a new one every couple weeks. Put one int the belt guards and another one in the battery box. Works good for me
Yours is the second suggestion Dean. The first one was to wipe Pine Sol around the engine and battery box....I'll probably do both. Just for good measure. Thanks for the tip my friend.
In the 70's MIOSHA mandated, I hate that word just because it means no argument 👺, guarding on everything had to have the machine not work with any guarding missing. We were running presses and swing saws so lots of guarding. By it's very nature a safety switch is kind of a hair trigger that breaks the control circuit so the companies that installed them of course put in the least expensive ones and they failed quickly. We replaced them with the good Allen Bradley limit switches every time we worked on them. Still the conveyors at Borg Warner ran all through the building. Safety switches and e stop circuits made handy hanging places for pliers, brooms, welding cables, and lunch bags. Mice didn't bother the insulation on the THHN but they sure did like to build nests.
Yes, I do believe that these proximity switches are quite cheaply produced. As they fail, they will be replaced by NOS I have on the shelf. The plastic coating on the THHN is a deterrent for sure. This is regular rubber coated automotive wire that mice seem to enjoy nibbling. So I'm sure the intermittent issue will rear its ugly head again and then hopefully it can be resolved. I am not going to change whichever part it is until it fails to reset connection by the wiggling and jiggling of troubleshooting. I strongly suspect its the 'passenger' side switch.
@@tractorman4461 Mice or other vermin ate the antilock braking wires off my Sonoma. I just knew the antilocks didn't work. Took about 3 hrs to reconnect and splice in missing sections.
Hahahaha...we always had barn cats years ago. They do the trick in the mouse department. Well they do until they're spoiled, that is. Thanks for the morning chuckle Rick.
I've had a couple others made that same suggestion along with a PineSol suggestion as well. I got the Missus on it already !! Thanks for watching and delivering additional input.
