The AF issue is a deal breaker for me. It's not acceptable for a +$2000 lens. I noticed the same issue with Panasonic FF and Leica SL2 and that's why I take a look at Canon R5 camera currently. What's the use of the best lenses or the biggest sensor if your pictures are out of focus ?
Bottom line is that medium format focus isn't at the same level of proficiency as the current crop of leading full frame bodies. Some of it is the lens here (DC motor), but bodies like the R5 are setting the focus bar very high.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Not like a R5 or A9 or A1 etc. thats clear. But the GFX100S is on the line of the X-T3 before Firmwareupdate and that is cool for MF and much better as the big GFX100 . One User here in Hamburg bought a GFX100S for IQ and a A1 for AF 😎. But thats not normal... .
@@ben1969sherman I'm not sure that a camera can make you a better photographer. But with some, less pictures are out of focus. And it's often crucial. However, no camera is sold with talent.
Wonderful reviews as always Dustin! Can't wait for you to review the rest of the GF lens lineup too! Quite keen on the 110mm and the 45-100mm reviews if you ever happen to do them.
Hm. I'm a new GFX convert, and the more I look at these specialized portrait lenses for the system, the more I think the 45-100mm would probably cover my needs. Faster focusing, OIS, flexibility to be a landscape or product photography/studio lens too. The rebate on the 110mm is enticing, but that's a lot of weight to carry for an occasional use. Is there any difference in the image quality of the 35-70mm vs the 45-100mm at F/8-F/16 is what I want to know?
Quick question re the eye auto-focus. It isn't clear whether the eyelash/iris issue is because of the lens or the camera's firmware. Have you seen this issue with another lens, ie the 110 F2?
First of all, I'm new to MF, so I've only had experience with two lenses thus far. I won't make any definitive determination on that subject, but I will say that I've seen other reviewers make similar complaints in reviews of other Fuji MF lenses.
If you need the absolute best portrait render and/or a bit snappier focus in a mid-tele prime, then buy the 110mm. That’s among the great portrait lenses of all time. The 80mm saves a bit of money, gets you closer to your subject and has a little more “character” in the out of focus areas, which may or may not appeal. It also pairs well with the 18mm (haven’t had a chance to test the 45mm yet) extension tube for macro photography. Will some find it noisy to work with? No doubt. But at least for myself, when I’m dialed into the work, and tuned into the output goals for my stills, then a little lens noise quickly disappears. For video? Well I wouldn’t say that any of the GFX lenses work great for video autofocus. But every system has it’s compromises, and the 100 series cameras are very much about delivering the ultimate in stills resolution in a package you can take outside the studio and handhold without worry compared with other large sensor alternatives. Don’t expect video miracles with GF glass.
I have been testing the GFX 100 S with this lens and the lens pulsates quite a bit in AF-C mode!!This is bummer for me as I really wanted to love this camera!
There is some hope that this will be improved by firmware to both the lens and camera. Unfortunately autofocus isn't quite at the level of what we're seeing on full frame, though.
Hello Dustin, great video! I have a question. I have this lens and am using the GFX100s body. When in Manual focus for Stills and Movie, I notice that the lens is making sound as I rotate the focus ring. I know the lens is focus by wire, but was not expecting so much sound. When I played back the recordings I made(without an external mic) I could here the sound of the lens when focusing (manual). Did you experience this noise during manual focus for stills and/or movie? I am not interested much in taking video with this camera&lens, but even in still setting the manual focusing is loud. The images do look good without any signs of problems associated with the sound. Thank you!
Yes, that is the unfortunate downside of a lens with a noisy focus motor in the focus-by-wire era. You will hear focus noise even when manually focusing.
Hello, I would like to ask you, have you observed any difference in image quality between a 14bit raw vs a16bit raw image? Better shadow detail perhaps? Same with lossless vs normal, any image quality difference? With the GFX 100s you can shoot up to 5fps, but only at 14bit, not 16bit, so I was wondering if it's worth sacrificing speed here for better image quality, even so slightly
A 63mm equivalent is not really a focal length for portrait and on a medium format such a max aperture not a great choice . what Fuji needs is a WR 2.8/ 95mm (75mm equivalent) for portrait , wedding photo, full length model shots ,.. even without the aperture clicks like the latest kit zoom to keep size and price down without compromising optical quality
Unfortunately this lens is not up to the bar set by GF110mm F2 optically why demanding more $$$. It is a bit odd that a 63mm F1.7 sells more than a 85mm F2 prime.
In what way is this GF80mm F1.7 not up to the bar set by GF110mm F2? It has a larger aperture than the GF110, it is shorter, lighter and easier to handle than the GF110. Both lenses are equally nicely built with the same weather resistance. Yes, the GF80 doesn’t have a linear motor for AF but that is what kept the size and weight down. You’ve also forgotten the fact that the GF80 is US$500 cheaper than the GF110. The fact of the matter is that they are two different lenses that will give you different rendering and results. Have you shot with the GF80? Have you seen the RAW files? (By the way, I don’t own this GF80 yet, but have played around with it at Fujifilm boutique and got the RAW files home).
Hi Dustin, I'm shooting GFX 50R and wish to try Fuji native portrait lenses after using Canon 85L for long. How do you compare the latest 80 to their 110?
When people say "Sony makes the sensors for Fuji / Hassleblad" etc - what does it mean? Sony fabricates for them or is the design Sony too? i.e. Fuji (and others) gives Sony a spec and then just "buy" from them? If they are custom NRE designs - one of a kind, these companies are sponsoring Sony experiments!
@@DustinAbbottTWI It is not just about medium format - it is "known" (rightly or incorrectly" - Sony "makes" the sensors for everyone except canon. If they just fabricate (as in manufacture), then the design is not given to Sony. Sort of like "foxconn manufactures iPhone" or "TSMC is the foundry of many chip makers" vs say a Dell which just "buys" an x86 chip. Most chip design houses are "fabless semiconductors". Unless the vendors design their own sensors, it is unlikely they will ever be able to do better than what Sony does for its own sensors. Medium format is more or less just a matter of size (and the benefits that come from it). e.g. someone could "invent" a small individual pixel with high dynamic range => no need for MF fo rthe higher dynamic range etc. Like there is really no serious difference between a HP and a Dell PC - the guts of both are exactly the same. The "mix" is just a matter of configuration - not technology. So if Sony designed and manufactured the GFX sensor, then the Sony 60 mpbs FF sensor can more or less the exact same thing of smaller size!
@@amaitra it's a Sony designed sensor. A while back, they announced a 100MP chip, and a 645 sized 150 MP chip. Every player in the medium format space uses Sony designed sensors.
@@robiulahmed Thanks! How do they ever aspire to beat Sony then? It is then only a matter of post processing software - even the creation of the "raw" file is just software. If it is so - Eureka! Programmers will dominate human civilization ;-) Including photography! Note, the GFX 100 and Sony 60 megapixel sensors are "equivalent" - they are just scaled versions. If Sony designed both of them, then they are likely identical pixel by pixel! GFX cannot have more "dynamic range" than a Sony (assuming equivalent lens). GFX merely has more of them because they need to cover a larger area. So it is only be a matter of "field of view" where GFX may usually do better because they have longer lenses for the same field of view - and the longer lenses are easier to make well from what I see.
@@amaitra Yes, you're absolutely correct. At the pixel level, the gfx100 is exactly the same as the a7riv. It does make for an interesting comparison. The bigger sensor means it has a 2/3 of a stop advantage in terms of low light, due to more photons of light that make up the image. This 2/3 advantage is completely counteracted by the lenses, which are over a stop faster for FF, in general. The main advantage of the GFX system would be the extra resolution. When the time comes that FF sensors get to 100MP, then that resolution advantage goes away. However, that may be many years away, as it seems the industry has settled for a few standards: 24 MP for APS-C and entry level FF, 40-60 MP for high res FF, 50 MP for crop medium format and 100 MP for high res crop medium format. Think about how long APS-C has been at 24 MP and you'll get an idea of how long they want to keep that status quo.